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A34470	A blow at the serpent; or a gentle answer from Madiston prison to appease wrath advancing it self against truth and peace at Rochester. Together with the work of four daies disputes, in the Cathedral of Rochester, in the Countie of Kent, betweene several ministers, and Richard Coppin, preacher there, to whom very many people frequentlie came to hear, and much rejoyced at the way of truth and peace he preached, at the same whereof the ministers in those parts began to ring in their pulpits, saying, this man blasphemeth, ... Whereupon arose the disputes, at which were some magistrates, some officers, and souldiers, peaceable and well-minded, and very many people from all parts adjacent, before whom the truth was confirm'd and maintained. The whole matter written by the hearers, on both sides. Published for the confirmation and comfort of all such as receive the truth in the love of it. By Richard Coppin, now in Maidston Prison for the witness of Jesus. Twenty five articles since brought against him by the ministers, as blasphemie, and his answers to them, how he was	Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659.	1656 (1656)	Wing C6094; ESTC R215454	85,329	113

being The Eye Eterne and yet Mentall Whose work is alwayes freeing Vs from all enemies within And raising us with Christ And clearing us from fancied sin To live with God the highest What shall I say time would me fail Thy sufferings to relate Yet all thy enemies cant prevail God still doth dissipate Men to their shame their horrid lies That they have still invented To cloud Christs real mysteries By truth they are tor mented An Hirogliphical Astrological causion to all sable learned Priests and others that persecute the life of Christ and speak evil of things they know not OLd Saturns persecuting minde Hath sometimes rampant been And lately couchant and as blind Though now he 's passant seen But have a care go not too fast Joves splendour to distresse Lest Mars and Sol agree at last To curb thy cruelnesse By J. L. The Names of such Books published by R. Coppin and are to be sold at the BLACK-MOOR 1. DIvine Teachings 2. Mans Righteousnesse examined 3. Saul smitten for not smiting Amalick 4. A Man-Child borne 5. Truths T●stimonie A Dialogue betweene Nimrod Policy and Nathanael Innocency by J. Lane Twelve Songs of Sion by J. L. One other book of the same Doctrine by W. Foxon Truths Champion first and second Part concerning Generall Redemption Ministery and Ordinances by R. Stooks Truths Triumph OR The Triumphing of TRVTH OVER The Enemies and Aspersers thereof In several Disputes holden at the Cathedral Church of the City of Rochester in the County of Kent between several Ministers and Richard Coppin on several daies DISPUTE I. Between Walter Rosewell then a Preacher at Chatham and Richard Coppin then Preacher in the Cathedral of Rochester being on Munday the third day of December 1655. THe people being come together into the Cathedral Richard Coppin began in prayer after which the Mayor of the City and Captain Smith Captain of the Guard desired the people to keep silence and none to speak but Rosewell and Coppin if any else did they should be apprehended and proceeded against as Disturbers of the Peace Then spake Coppin saying I desire also that the people will all keep silent and none to speak a word but those who are in dispute I know you are a people divided some for the one party and some for the other and I shall speak to you all First to you that are on the contrary party to me and that have any desire to speak not to speak above one at a time and so speak as many as will provided the one hath done before the other begin And to you that may have any desire to speak on my behalf I entreat you all to be silent and not to speak a word but to leave all to the Lord and my self Rosew M. Mayor I thought none but you the rest of the Magistrates and Officers of the Army should have had the mannaging this Dispute and I to have began first that so this mans discourse might have been spared And as for the plausible prayer he made at my coming in to delude the people I confesse my Conscience would not give me to joyn with him not but that the matter thereof was good but I knowing his Principle to be corrupt could not say Amen to it And now if you please I shall first make a short Prayer and then go on to the work for I cannot undertake a businesse of such weight for the suppressing of such damnable errors as here hath been vented without calling upon God for assistance both to Magistrates Officers and Ministers in this work CHAP. I. That Christ who knew no sin took part of mans flesh and blood which was sinful weak and punishable how in it he was made the same and for what end ROsewell There be three things which I shall charge you withal at present the which you should endeavour to clear your self of if you can and that I shall propound in a Logical way yet so plain that that little reason you are endowed withal may understand it as for Art I presume you have none Proposition First he that is a perswader of the people to believe that Jesus Christ was a sinner and that the Humane Nature of Christ was polluted with sin he is a Blasphemer of Christ a Perverter of Scripture and a venter of damnable errors Coppin Sir you have here laid down a Proposition the affirmation of which you say is Blasphemy and he a Blasphemer that shall perswade men to believe it But Sir who do you charge with it me or some other or did any man else ever hear me say these words if any did let him speak and I will answer it for there is no reason for me to answer to that which is not laid to my charge and I came not here to charge my self but do now expect something of accusation from you else why have you and the rest of your Brethren so often railed against me in your Pulpits Rosewell I desire the Souldiers and Magistrates to declare if I have any reason to speak any further till this Proposition be answered Coppin Do you charge me with any thing in this Proposition or not if you do I will answer you else I may say to you as Christ my Elder Brother sometimes said to his Accusers Ye said these words I said them not Rosewell Oh horrible Blasphemy to call Christ your Elder Brother I professe I dare not say so no you will find him to be your Judge at the last day to condemn you for your Blasphemy Coppin He is your Elder Brother also though you do not know him But Sir I perceive you for your part have yet nothing against me and therefore you urge these things endeavouring to draw somthing from my own mouth to accuse me which is not a Disputing in love on your part to edifie the people as you pretended but to charge me with Blasphemy as the Jewes and Scribes and Pharisees did Christ which you cannot prove Yet to give the people satisfaction I shall not hide any thing from them but shall be free to declare such things that God hath made known to me that so he might be glorified and their souls comforted which I shall also do according to the Scriptures and then catch what you can Therefore first I declare that the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of the living God and Saviour of the World that proceeded forth from the Father into the world to take on him part of the same flesh and bloud of men and to live in it was himself holy harmlesse and undefiled in whose mouth was found no guile as saith the Scripture yet this Lord Jesus and Son of the living God who was so holy and harmlesse was himselfe pleased to take mans sinful nature so called to live in it and cleanse it he was made in the likenesse of sinful flesh and for sin he condemned sin in the flesh as also saith the Scripture nay he was

oyntment Isa. 1. 6. So that before the coming of Christ into man to binde up his wounds to annoint him with oile and to sanctifie him he is polluted throughout Ezek. 16. Rosewell Rub your Brazen-face and go on Coppin If the nature of man had beene holie before Christ took it on him then Christ need not have come to make it holie but because it was polluted with sinne therefore did Christ come and take part of the same sinfull nature that he by living in that nature might sanctifie and cleanse it all and thereby present the whole nature of man pure spotlesse and blamelesse to the Father making it to be accepted in him the beloved Jesus for without him there was none righteous no not one but all have sinned and come short of the glory of God And he hath concluded all men under sin and unbelief that he might have mercy upon all and this mercie is manifested in Heb. 2. 14. That forasmuch as the children are partakers of flesh and blood he also himself likewise took part of the same that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death which is the Devill and deliver them who through feare of death were all their life time subject to bondage For before Christ did take our flesh on him the Devill and Sinne did dwell in it but because that men should not for ever remaine so under the Dominions of sin death hell and the devil God himself did manifest himself to live in our nature or sinful flesh that he might destroy both his and our enemies even sin death hell and the devill in our nature which devil had no part in him 1 John 3. 8. For this purpose was the Son of God manifested that he might destroy the works of the devil without which no man could live to see the face of God in righteousnesse as 't is written We must needs die and are all like water spilt upon the ground which could not be gathered up again And God without respect of persons did find out this way in his Son to redeem us again to himselfe even by his being manifest in our flesh yea in our sinful flesh not that he was that flesh but did live in it to destroy the pollutions of it and so present it to his Father as blamelesse and as holie as himself For he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one for which cause he is not ashamed to call them Brethren saying I will declare thy Name unto my Brethren in the mid'st of the Church will I sing praise unto thee And again I will put my trust in thee and beh●ld I and the children which God hath given me are with thee Heb. 2. 11. Rosewell Cannot every one read this as well as you Coppin Pray interrupt me not I shall yet go on verse 17. 18. He was in all things made like unto his Brethren that he might be a mercifull and faithfull High-Priest to offer up for the sinnes of the people which till he had taken them on him in our likeness he could not doe and in that he himselfe hath suffered for them being tempted he is able to succour them that are tempted but if our nature were holy before Christ took it on him to what end did he take it to suffer in it and yet I say this Jesus which did take our nature on him and still lives in it now in us and will also in those that shall come after us was not himselfe sinfull but righteous and the sinfulness of it was ours and is known onely to us and not to him living in us for he knew no sin and yet he in our nature did beare all oursins and it was the sins of all men that did crucifie him which he did beare in their nature as his own body on the Tree for the same nature that sinned did suffer for sin and not another nature and he being both God and man as having the nature of both so he had power to die and to live againe to lay downe his life and to take it up and so he became our Holy High-Priest to offer up us and our nature in himselfe and his nature by one offering to the Father to reconcile us to God when he offer'd up himselfe once for all And now answer me one question What High-Priest is that spoken of in Heb. 5. 1. 2. 3. And that you may know he is there said to have compassion on the ignorant and on them that are out of the way for that he himselfe also is compassed about with our infirmities and what High-Priest is this say you Then answered one Mr. Wife a Minister It is spoken of Jesus Christ Coppin It seems you cannot answer your selfe you must have some other to answer for you Rosewell I will fetch one Oyster-Wife from Billingsgate shall answer you Coppin Well you denie not this answer made for you concerning this Scripture in Heb. 5. that the High-Priest there spoken of was Christ which if it be as you say and not I then read the next words ver. 3. and by reason thereof he ought as for the people so also for himself to offer for sins Rosewell You have confest confest what I charged you with Coppin I have only read to you the words of the Scripture Also if Christ be our Suretie to pay our debt as in Heb. 7. 22. then the debt became his as well as ours which he paid for himself as for us after he had taken it to him and so he may be said to offer for his own sins also as for the peoples according to these Scriptures Isaiah 53. 12. He was numbered with the transgressors Rosewell Now I desire all to take notice and they may plainly see you are a Blasphemer I shall now follow you in your Wile-Goose-Chase He that shall pretend Scripture that Christ did offer for his own sins as also for the peoples he is a Blasphemer but you have ergo Coppin I have not pretended Scripture but have proved all things that I have said plainlie by Scripture and concerning that in the Heb. I did ask you what was meant by that High-Priest and because you did not answer your self some other bodie did for you saying it was Christ Rosewell But you did affirm that Christ in our nature did offer for his owne sins as also for the peoples and how can there be salvation in him that must offer for his owne sins therefore all that heare you must conclude this to be high blasphemy against Jesus Christ and it is dangerous damnable doctrine Coppin You say it is dangerous and so it is to you because it is contrary to your doctrine and doth overthrow it but it is not dangerous to the truth but to that which is a lye and that cannot stand before it and therefore you raile against it because you can no way overthrow it Rosewell I say he that saith

which I know and which you say is a mysterie Secondly consider the death you are to be raised from and that is the death that all men died in the state of the first Adam and do still die by reason of sin from which death all shall be raised to life in Christ the second Adam Now the wages of sin is death and that death which sin doth bring on man is the same death that Christ doth raise him from For you who were dead in sins and trespasses hath he quickned and if ye be risen with Christ seek the things which are above where Christ siteth at the right hand of God which is spoken in the Presentence and not in the Future and cannot be meant of the rising of our corporal bodies after laid in the grave which I question whether those that talk so much of that do yet know this spiritual Resurrection which I hereby declare to you all and if any one can tell us of another Resurrection of the same body of flesh blood and bones again as it was let him declare that as I have declared this for I denie nothing which by any other can be proved but the Scripture saith That flesh and blood shall not inherit the Kingdome of God neither doth corruption inherit incorruption therefore blessed and happy are all they which have their part in this first Resurrection for of such the second death hath no power but they live and raign with Christ Thirdly As there is a bodie to be raised so there is also a bodie to be destroyed and that is the bodie of sin and death which is to die and no more to live For if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin but the spirit is life because of righteousnesse that is of Christ And in Rom 6. there is a Resurrection from sin to newnesse of life spoken of by the Apostle that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorie of the Father even so should we walk before him in newnesse of life for if we have been planted together in the likenesse of his death we shall be also in the likenesse of his Resurrection knowing this that our old man is crucified with him that the bodie of sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve sin Rosewell 2 Tim. 2. 18. But there were false Prophets among them as there are false Teachers among you which say the Resurrection is past already and so bring in damnable errors to overthrow the saith and we see there were some in the Apostles daies which did deny a corporal Resurrection Coppin Do you instance that Scripture as to a corporal Resurrection which speaks nothing of it you do add to that Scripture the word corporal and you know the punishment of him that addeth thereto or diminisheth therefrom Again I do not say the Resurrection is past already for it is not yet come to you nor many more therefore your Scripture is to no purpose against me for I say it is to come as well as alreadie come and that it shall continue until the Day of Judgment be ended or till all that shall be are raised and set free in this spiritual Resurrection from death hell or the grave in which they lie imprisoned and buried by reason of sin but the Sadduces who denie the Resurrection hold there is neither Angel nor Spirit and that do not I. Rosewell I shall prove the Resurrection of the body from Job 19. Where Job saith He shall see God with those eyes at the last day 1 Cor. 15. Paul saith If the dead rise not then is our preaching vain and your faith is vain and you are yet in your sins And Job saith Though wormes destroy his bodie yet in this flesh in this bodie shall I see God which doth clearlie prove a corporal Resurrection but I shall give him rope till night Coppin Add not to the Scripture for there is no such bodily Resurrection spoken of as you declare 1 Cor. 15. 12. so on pray see friends Paul doth not speak of a corporal Resurrection but tells them of the Resurrection of the Dead and saith That if Christ be not risen then all our Preaching and Believing is in vain and we are yet in our sins Clearlie intimating that the Resurrection of Christ doth assure them of their being raised from sin to walk with God in newnesse of life For saith he you are sown a natural body but you are raised a spiritual body and a spirituall bodie is not flesh and bones therefore not the same bodie as you say it is and would have it to be Rosewell There shall be eyes hands and feet Coppin That there shall be eyes hands and feet you are yet to prove Rosewell Job saith He shall see God with those eyes and that in this his flesh he shall see God Againe the Scripture saith That they which are alive and them which are dead shall be raised and all of them shall meet the Lord only this corruptible must put on incorruptible and this mortall must put on immortalitie Again the bodies of Believers are the Temples of the Holy Ghost 1 Cor. 6. and the Temples of Jesus Christ therefore the same bodies shall be raised at the last day Coppin You also bring Job to prove a Corporal Resurrection of flesh blood and bones and that this Resurrection and seeing God with those eyes was not to be till after the death of his visible bodie as you say but I say here is a mysterie and a spiritual sense to be understood in these words Job 19. where he saith I know my Redeemer liveth and that at the last day I shall s●e him stand upon the earth and though after my skin worms destroy this body yet in my flesh shall I see God whom I shall see for my selfe and mine eyes shall behold and not anothers though my reins be consumed within me But to understand this you must know how he is the Redeemer and when also what is meant by the last day and the earth which he shall stand upon and what eyes shall behold him c. Now his Redeemer was the Lord and did then live in Job though he knew it not that he should see him at the last day is a truth but what this last day was and the manner how he should see him that he knew not till the time came that he saw him in himselfe therefore you shall find that Job was then in darkness and under much affliction uttering words without knowledg for which he was reproved first by the Prophet Elihu secondlie by the Lord thirdlie he confest it first the Prophet reproved him Job 33. Chap. 35. 16. Therefore doth Job open his mouth in vaine he multiplieth words without knowledg Job 38. 1. 2. Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said who is this that darkeneth counsell by words without knowledg gird up now thy loynes like a

in all things made like unto his Brethren sin known and committed excepted that as we had in us the knowledge and actings of sin so God made him to be sin for us who himself knew no sin that we might be made the righteousnesse of God in him Rosewell Though you say he committed none yet you do here intimate that Christs nature was tainted with original sin which I prove to be blasphemy for now I have it from your own mouth indeed he was made a Sin Offering for sin the Scripture saith But Mr. Mayor and Captain Smith you may plainlie see how his argument is corrupted which will go about to make men believe that Christ was a sinner and that his nature was tainted with original sin Coppin 'T is you that say so not I as the people canwitnefs Head the Lawer But you have said it and I have it here in writing Coppin Have you so Sir pray let me hear what you have written for now I see you still lie upon the catch therefore you people pray take notice and I will repeat the words again and see if I speak any thing that the Scripture will not bear me out in I say the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of the living God and Saviour of the world knew no sin neither was guile found in his mouth yet was all the sins of all men in the world laid upon him and reckoned to him to be no longer ours but his that he might suffer for them Robison a Justice Will you say that Christ suffered for his own sins Coppin Not as acted by him but reckoned to him But Sir pray answer me this question seeing you have spoke Is the body of Christ part of himself or not Robison Yes his bodie is himself Coppin Pray then whose body are all the men in the world which Christ died for Robison Whose why they are the bodie of Christ Coppin Then people take no●ice if the whole world of men which Christ died for be the bodie of Christ then Christ dying for their sins died for the sins of his own bodie whose bodie we all are and members in particular as 't is written We are members of his bodie of his flesh and of his bones and so Christ in his bodie of flesh as part of ours did bear our sins and infirmities 1 Pet. 2. 24. whose his own self did bear our sins in his own bodie on the Tree and in Mat. 8. 16. himselfe took our infirmities and bear our sicknesses and Isa 53. 3. 4. 5. He is despised and rejected of men a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief and we hid as it were our faces from him he was despised and we esteemed him not Surely he hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows yet we did esteem him stricken smitten of God and afflicted He was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities and the chastisements of our peace was upon him We all like sheep have gone astray and the Lord hath laid upon him the iniquities of us all So that whatsoever sins whatsoever sicknesses weaknesses infirmities and punishments was in the flesh of men Christ taking the same flesh and bloud of men upon him took all this that so he might overcome it for men according to those Scriptures Rosewell You pervert Scripture for the meaning is he took our punishments and not our sins Coppin Nay then you pervert Scripture for the words are He bear our sins Rosewell Mr. Mayor and the rest you may see with what a Brazen-face this Blasphemer stands to maintain his damnable errors Coppin And 't is well I have such a face and such patience else it were not for me to stand here before you to hear such railing and reviling which you never learned from Christ for when he Disputed with the Devil about the bodie of Moses he brought no railing Accusation but said The Lord rebuke thee Rosewell Then the Lord rebuke thee Satan But you must not think to shift it off so for you have perverted Scripture and you must give satisfaction in it Coppin Sir what do you mean by satisfaction It may be if I stand here till to morrow you will not be satisfied but my desire is to satisfie the people and you if I may Rosewell You are before a juditions Auditorie which may well understand you Coppin It is well you do now confesse they are a juditious Auditorie you did say the other day to the contrarie Rosewell You do not answer any thing to this Proposition but do pervert the Scripture by saying the nature of Christ was polluted with sin Coppin I do not say that his nature was polluted with sin but that our nature was polluted till Christ was manifest in it to destroy the pollutions of it as 't is written For this purpose was the Son of God manifest that he might destroy the works of the Devil And the Lord hath laid on him the iniquities of us all and he did bear them in his own bodie on the Tree Rosewell I say again he that doth teach people to believe that Jesus Christ was a sinner and that his nature was polluted with sin is a Blafphemer of Christ and a venter of damnable errors but you do teach people to believe so ergo Coppin I still denie your minor and did never say that Christ was a sinner as all the people can witnesse but I say He was made sin for us and yet knew no sin but did bear our sins in his bodie Rosewell He that doth attribute any thing to Christ that is a dishonor to Christ he is a perverter of Scripture and a Blasphemer of Christ but you by saying the nature of Christ was polluted with sin have d●ne so ergo Coppin I have denied your minor which you cannot prove and do des●re you to declare what nature of man it was the Scripture saith Christ did take on him Was it a holy nature or a sinful nature Rosewell The nature of man when Christ did come to take it on him was polluted but that part which Christ did take on him was holie for it was the nature of a Virgin Luke 1. 35. The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee therefore that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God He did take mans nature on him but not his sins and this I declare and am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ Coppin The nature of the Virgin Mary which you say was holy before Christ took it on him I say was the same with all other mens nature for sinfulnesse for all had sinned and Christ took on him the sinful nature of all which sinned before he could undergo the punishment due for sin as I have proved by several Scriptures and Arguments in answer to this Proposition and therefore if you or any man else have any thing more to