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and_o therefore_o this_o place_n of_o s._n john_n be_v but_o a_o infirm_a foundation_n to_o build_v so_o great_a a_o structure_n on_o it_o as_o the_o whole_a oeconomy_n of_o their_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o confession_n upon_o it_o since_o so_o many_o learned_a and_o acute_a man_n master-builder_n believe_v nothing_o at_o all_o of_o it_o and_o other_o that_o do_v agree_v not_o well_o in_o the_o frame_n of_o the_o structure_n upon_o it_o but_o make_v a_o babel_n of_o it_o and_o at_o last_o their_o attempt_n prove_v vain_a and_o useless_a by_o the_o testimony_n of_o their_o fellow-labourer_n there_o be_v some_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v pretend_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o confession_n but_o they_o need_v no_o particular_a scrutiny_n etc._n primum_fw-la istorum_fw-la esseâ—_n magis_fw-la conveniens_fw-la lenendâ—m_fw-la si_fw-fr posset_n evidenter_fw-la haberi_fw-la istud_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la ex_fw-la evangelio_n nec_fw-la 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and_o antiphanes_n say_v of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n be_v not_o see_v with_o eye_n he_o be_v like_a to_o no_o man_n therefore_o no_o man_n can_v by_o a_o image_n know_v he_o by_o which_o it_o appear_v plain_o to_o be_v the_o general_n opinion_n of_o the_o ancient_n that_o whatever_o be_v incorporeal_a be_v not_o to_o be_v paint_v no_o though_o it_o have_v appear_v in_o symbolical_a form_n as_o confess_o the_o angel_n do_v and_o of_o this_o the_o second_o synod_n of_o nice_a itself_o be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n 5._o act._n 5._o the_o father_n of_o which_o do_v all_o approve_v the_o epistle_n of_o john_n bishop_n of_o thessalonica_n in_o which_o he_o large_o discourse_n against_o the_o picture_v of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v incorporeal_a he_o that_o please_v to_o see_v more_o of_o this_o affair_n may_v find_v much_o more_o and_o to_o very_o great_a purpose_n in_o a_o little_a book_n de_fw-la imaginibus_fw-la etc._n pag._n 734._o etc._n etc._n in_o the_o first_o book_n of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a bibliotheca_fw-la patrum_fw-la out_o of_o which_o i_o shall_v only_o transcribe_v these_o word_n non_fw-la esse_fw-la faciendum_fw-la imagine_v dei_fw-la imo_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la quid_fw-la simile_n attentaverit_fw-la hunc_fw-la extremis_fw-la suppliciis_fw-la veluti_fw-la ethnicis_fw-la communicantem_fw-la dogmatis_fw-la subjici_fw-la let_v they_o translate_v it_o that_o please_v only_o i_o remember_v that_o aventinus_n tell_v a_o story_n 7._o annal._n biorum_n l._n 7._o that_o pope_n john_n xxii_o cause_v to_o be_v burn_v for_o heretic_n those_o person_n who_o have_v paint_v the_o holy_a trinity_n which_o i_o urge_v for_o no_o other_o reason_n but_o to_o show_v how_o late_o a_o innovation_n of_o religion_n this_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o worship_n of_o image_n come_v in_o by_o decree_n and_o it_o be_v long_o resist_v but_o until_o of_o late_a it_o never_o come_v to_o the_o height_n of_o impiety_n as_o to_o picture_n god_n 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