Selected quad for the lemma: sin_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sin_n	child_n	father_n	visit_v	6,429	5	10.0460	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A20964	The waters of Siloe To quench the fire of purgatory and to drowne the traditions, limboes, mans satisfactions and all popish indulgences, against the reasons and allegations of a Portugall frier of the order of St. Frances, supported by three treatises. The one written by the same Franciscan and entituled The fierie torrent, &c. The other two by two doctors of Sorbon. The one intituled The burning furnasse. The other The fire of Helie. By Peter Du Moulin minister of Gods word. Faithfully translated out of French by I.B.; Accroissement des eaux de Siloé. English	Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; Barnes, John, fl. 1600-1621, attributed name.; I. B., fl. 1612.	1612 (1612)	STC 7343; ESTC S111086	158,344	552

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confound_v itself_o but_o what_o need_v so_o many_o by_o way_n when_o they_o may_v cut_v it_o clean_o of_o &_o frank_o say_v that_o god_n do_v not_o acquit_v we_o free_o as_o indeed_o the_o friar_n in_o many_o place_n say_v as_o much_o in_o his_o 99_o page_n in_o these_o word_n god_n pardon_v the_o sin_n howbeit_o for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o his_o justice_n he_o appoint_v the_o chastisement_n the_o ●ing_n pardon_v a_o gentleman_n for_o some_o murder_n commit_v yet_o condemn_v he_o in_o great_a ●ines_n sith_o then_o the_o pardon_n whereby_o the_o capital_a pain_n be_v convert_v into_o pecuniary_a and_o so_o be_v no_o full_a pardon_n but_o a_o diminution_n of_o pain_n it_o manifest_o appear_v that_o our_o adversary_n do_v hold_v that_o the_o pardon_n which_o god_n grant_v we_o be_v no_o full_a or_o free_a pardon_n hereto_o come_v their_o word_n that_o god_n do_v free_o remit_v the_o fault_n but_o not_o the_o pain_n the_o eternal_a pain_n but_o not_o the_o temporal_a for_o he_o that_o free_o forgive_v his_o debtor_n the_o one_o part_n of_o his_o debt_n but_o not_o all_o can_v be_v say_v free_o to_o give_v or_o acquit_v the_o whole_a debt_n neither_o can_v the_o pardon_n be_v say_v to_o be_v full_a when_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n impose_v upon_o the_o debtor_n to_o pay_v or_o suffer_v punishment_n for_o the_o sin_n be_v it_o in_o the_o whole_a or_o in_o a_o part_n 11_o herein_o also_o appear_v the_o folly_n of_o their_o distinction_n between_o the_o fault_n and_o the_o pain_n the_o friar_n say_v 75._o pag._n 75._o that_o the_o sin_n bring_v with_o it_o two_o thing_n a_o faul●_n and_o a_o pain_n have_v this_o good_a man_n be_v perfect_a in_o his_o natural_a language_n the_o absurdity_n of_o his_o principle_n have_v be_v apparent_a for_o the_o word_n culpa_fw-la or_o fault_n in_o his_o language_n signify_v sin_n witness_v the_o priest_n word_n when_o in_o his_o mass_n lie_n beat_v his_o breast_n and_o say_v mea_fw-la culpa_fw-la it_o be_v my_o sin_n also_o jacobs_n word_n to_o laban_n for_o what_o sin_n of_o i_o 13.36_o gen._n 13.36_o what_o fault_n have_v i_o commit_v and_o the_o like_a throughout_o all_o the_o holy_a scripture_n now_o let_v the_o reader_n iudg●_n whether_o the_o friar_n have_v dine_v when_o he_o write_v or_o no_o when_o he_o say_v that_o sin_n bring_v with_o it_o the_o fault_n that_o be_v to_o say_v sin_n fault_n the_o examination_n of_o the_o distinction_n between_o pain_n and_o fault_n upon_o this_o worthy_a distinction_n between_o the_o pain_n and_o the_o fault_n be_v purgatory_n ground_v and_o this_o pin_n once_o pluck_v out_o the_o whole_a frame_n fall_v out_o of_o joint_a they_o say_v then_o that_o god_n do_v indeed_o acquit_v we_o of_o all_o the_o fault_n but_o not_o of_o all_o the_o pain_n a_o saying_n not_o only_o unjust_a but_o even_o incompatible_a 1_o the_o uniustnesse_n hereof_o be_v evident_a for_o no_o man_n be_v just_o punish_v but_o for_o his_o fault_n and_o the_o fault_n take_v away_o the_o offender_n be_v no_o long_o guilty_a and_o be_v no_o long_o guilty_a he_o can_v just_o be_v punish_v these_o doctor_n therefore_o do_v blemish_n &_o dry_v up_o the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n 2_o the_o incompatibility_n hereof_o be_v likewise_o manifest_a in_o that_o they_o say_v god_n do_v forgive_v we_o all_o our_o offence_n yet_o punish_v they_o in_o a_o burn_a fire_n both_o to_o pardon_v and_o yet_o to_o punish_v oneself_o offence_n be_v matter_n incompatible_a and_o when_o we_o forgive_v our_o neighbour_n all_o his_o offence_n against_o we_o we_o use_v not_o to_o say_v i_o forgive_v thou_o the_o fault_n yet_o will_v i_o punish_v thou_o or_o i_o acquit_v thou_o of_o thy_o debt_n yet_o shall_v thou_o pay_v i_o but_o as_o say_v tertullian_n in_o his_o five_o book_n of_o baptism_n exemp_n to_o reatu_fw-la eximitur_fw-la poena_fw-la 3_o again_o since_o our_o sin_n be_v debt_n to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n as_o jesus_n christ_n witness_v where_o he_o teach_v we_o to_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n of_o which_o debt_n the_o payment_n be_v pain_n &_o satisfaction_n shall_v we_o not_o sin_v even_o against_o common_a sense_n if_o we_o affirm_v that_o god_n forgive_v all_o the_o debt_n but_o not_o all_o the_o payment_n thus_o do●_n our_o master_n shadow_n we_o forth_o chimaera_n and_o monster_n in_o the_o air_n 4_o let_v we_o proceed_v how_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o by_o the_o death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n we_o shall_v be_v purge_v quit_v and_o deliver_v from_o all_o our_o trespass_n but_o not_o from_o the_o punishment_n due_a to_o our_o trespass_n consider_v that_o he_o do_v not_o otherwise_o bear_v our_o sin_n and_o offence_n but_o by_o bear_v the_o pain_n due_a to_o they_o &_o if_o he_o do_v bear_v the_o pain_n do_v he_o not_o bear_v it_o to_o the_o end_n to_o discharge_v we_o from_o it_o si_fw-mi tulit_fw-la abstulit_fw-la he_o have_v bear_v our_o infirmity_n &_o carry_v our_o sorrow_n say_v esay_n 53.4_o to_o what_o end_n even_o to_o discharge_v we_o from_o they_o and_o this_o be_v it_o that_o s._n austin_n say_v in_o his_o 37_o sermon_n upon_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n take_v upon_o he_o the_o punishment_n but_o not_o the_o sin_n have_v abolish_v both_o the_o sin_n and_o the_o punishment_n 5_o throughout_o all_o this_o discourse_n this_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o all_o our_o speech_n concern_v such_o pain_n as_o be_v payment_n redemption_n and_o satisfaction_n to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n for_o these_o our_o doctor_n do_v term_v purgatory_n a_o payment_n &_o satisfaction_n to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n these_o be_v the_o punishment_n which_o we_o say_v to_o be_v in_o compatible_a with_o a_o full_a pardon_n there_o be_v a_o other_o kind_n of_o punishment_n which_o be_v term_v castigatory_a and_o this_o be_v inflict_v for_o amendment_n of_o the_o sinner_n and_o have_v great_a affinity_n with_o the_o full_a pardon_n for_o god_n do_v chastise_v his_o child_n even_o after_o he_o have_v pardon_v they_o such_o chastisement_n be_v not_o payment_n and_o satisfaction_n to_o content_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n but_o fatherly_a correction_n to_o bring_v the_o sinner_n to_o amendment_n they_o be_v not_o execution_n of_o his_o justice_n but_o testimony_n of_o his_o fatherly_a love_n &_o care_n not_o wound_n but_o salve_n and_o these_o can_v in_o no_o wise_a concur_v with_o the_o tormenr_n of_o purgatory_n wherein_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v already_o just_a and_o can_v amend_v no_o more_o as_o therefore_o we_o use_v to_o strike_v a_o man_n fall_v into_o a_o apoplexy_n not_o to_o get_v any_o satisfaction_n at_o his_o hand_n but_o to_o awaken_v he_o so_o god_n smite_v his_o child_n when_o they_o sleep_v in_o their_o sin_n to_o make_v they_o feel_v their_o negligence_n he_o that_o otherwise_o interprete_v the_o affliction_n that_o god_n send_v and_o take_v they_o not_o for_o correction_n health_n some_o to_o his_o soul_n but_o for_o satisfaction_n necessary_a to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n he_o make_v his_o affliction_n bitter_a &_o dip_v their_o edge_n in_o gall_n take_v from_o they_o the_o spiritual_a consolation_n glory_n and_o joy_n that_o support_v the_o child_n of_o god_n in_o this_o combat_n necessity_n be_v a_o miserable_a consolation_n it_o harden_v the_o sore_a but_o heal_v it_o not_o it_o raise_v the_o courage_n against_o the_o pain_n but_o assuage_v it_o not_o for_o what_o mitigation_n be_v it_o to_o the_o afflict_a to_o tell_v he_o that_o his_o sore_n be_v past_a cure_n and_o that_o of_o necessity_n he_o must_v satisfy_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n or_o how_o can_v s._n paul_n have_v so_o boast_v of_o his_o tribulation_n have_v he_o believe_v they_o have_v be_v payment_n which_o god_n do_v exact_a of_o he_o for_o his_o sin_n this_o doctrine_n be_v so_o healthful_a so_o full_a of_o consolation_n and_o so_o evident_o lay_v down_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n namely_o that_o god_n chastise_v we_o for_o our_o amendment_n yet_o this_o friar_n minor_n with_o a_o desperate_a presumption_n dare_v avouch_v it_o to_o be_v a_o reason_n forge_v in_o our_o own_o brain_n without_o the_o word_n of_o god_n without_o authority_n 78._o pag._n 78._o and_o without_o reason_n hereupon_o therefore_o let_v we_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n herein_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n cap._n 12._o say_v god_n chastn_v we_o for_o our_o profit_n to_o the_o end_n we_o may_v be_v partaker_n of_o his_o holiness_n again_o discipline_n bring_v the_o quiet_a fruit_n of_o righteousness_n to_o those_o that_o be_v exercise_v therein_o how_o often_o do_v god_n say_v that_o he_o chastn_v those_o who_o he_o love_v 3.11_o apoc._n 3.19_o heb._n 12.6_o job_n 5.17_o prov._n 3.11_o david_n in_o the_o 119._o psalm_n confess_v that_o before_o he_o be_v

afflict_v he_o go_v a_o stray_n but_o after_o his_o affliction_n he_o keep_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o again_o it_o be_v good_a for_o i_o that_o i_o have_v be_v afflict_v that_o i_o may_v learn_v thy_o statute_n 33_o 2._o chro._n 33_o be_v not_o manasses_n for_o his_o conversion_n indebt_v to_o his_o captivity_n and_o be_v not_o we_o for_o david_n psalm_n indebt_v to_o saul_n and_o absalon_n for_o the_o build_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o our_o day_n be_v not_o we_o indebt_v to_o the_o martyrdom_n and_o torment_n that_o our_o father_n endure_v for_o the_o gospel_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o experience_n we_o find_v other_o end_n of_o our_o affliction_n then_o satisfaction_n and_o redemption_n to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n therefore_o say_v chrysostome_n in_o his_o homely_a of_o confession_n &_o penance_n that_o god_n punish_v we_o not_o for_o the_o sin_n past_a corrigens_fw-la non_fw-la exigens_fw-la supplicium_fw-la de_fw-la peccatis_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la futura_fw-la nos_fw-la corrigens_fw-la but_o correct_v we_o for_o that_o that_o be_v to_o come_v here_o do_v our_o adversary_n rouse_v themselves_o and_o seek_v all_o mean_n to_o underprop_v their_o so_o ruinous_a a_o cause_n and_o to_o persuade_v that_o to_o pardon_v a_o sin_n &_o yet_o to_o punish_v it_o with_o satisfactory_a pain_n to_o acquit_v a_o debt_n and_o yet_o to_o make_v the_o debtor_n pay_v it_o be_v thing_n compatible_a &_o such_o as_o do_v well_o agree_v this_o do_v the_o friar_n prove_v by_o a_o theological_a reason_n among_o all_o the_o work_n of_o god_n say_v he_o do_v equal_o shine_v his_o mercy_n and_o his_o justice_n a_o proposition_n that_o bear_v many_o exception_n 75._o pag._n 75._o as_o in_o the_o punishment_n of_o devil_n we_o find_v sovereign_a justice_n without_o mercy_n and_o god_n do_v often_o minister_v the_o one_o without_o the_o other_o as_o himself_o say_v in_o the_o epistle_n of_o s._n james_n cap._n 2._o there_o shall_v be_v judgement_n merciless_a to_o he_o that_o show_v no_o mercy_n only_o in_o the_o work_n of_o redemption_n be_v this_o proposition_n true_a his_o mind_n be_v that_o in_o the_o justification_n of_o a_o sinner_n god_n mercy_n shall_v be_v display_v in_o confer_v unto_o he_o the_o first_o grace_n and_o remission_n of_o eternal_a pain_n and_o to_o give_v some_o way_n to_o his_o justice_n he_o will_v have_v it_o to_o take_v some_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o sinner_n by_o punish_v he_o with_o temporal_a pain_n as_o well_o in_o this_o life_n as_o in_o purgatory_n wherein_o i_o beseech_v the_o reader_n to_o consider_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o untruth_n which_o consist_v in_o wrangle_v and_o jar_v with_o his_o own_o principle_n the_o friar_n say_v that_o among_o all_o the_o work_n of_o god_n his_o mercy_n &_o his_o justice_n do_v shine_v equal_o but_o here_o he_o make_v they_o altogether_o unequal_a in_o that_o mercy_n reveal_v herself_o in_o pardon_v a_o infinite_a pain_n but_o justice_n show_v herself_o in_o make_v they_o suffer_v temporal_a punishment_n which_o nevertheless_o may_v be_v abridge_v and_o redeem_v by_o some_o fast_n and_o slight_a offering_n make_v by_o the_o surviver_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v it_o meet_v to_o seek_v place_n for_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n where_o we_o may_v abase_v it_o so_o low_a and_o dishonour_v it_o in_o pay_v it_o in_o such_o base_a coin_n and_o clip_a mony●_n even_o this_o may_v serve_v for_o a_o evident_a and_o most_o mighty_a testimony_n to_o the_o truth_n if_o we_o prove_v that_o according_a to_o our_o belief_n gather_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o justice_n of_o god_n and_o his_o mercy_n do_v equal_o shine_v in_o the_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n &_o be_v likewise_o infinite_a for_o god_n have_v show_v himself_o infinite_o just_a in_o accept_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o our_o pledge_n and_o redeemer_n jesus_n christ_n a_o sufficient_a price_n for_o all_o our_o offence_n also_o infinite_o merciful_a in_o allow_v to_o we_o this_o payment_n as_o make_v in_o our_o name_n his_o wisdom_n have_v unite_v thing_n which_o otherwise_o seem_v hardly_o to_o agree_v have_v find_v a_o mean_n to_o punish_v all_o our_o sin_n and_o withal_o to_o forgive_v they_o all_o by_o give_v to_o we_o his_o son_n the_o object_n of_o his_o justice_n for_o a_o argument_n and_o matter_n of_o his_o mercy_n but_o to_o pardon_v a_o man_n all_o his_o sin_n and_o yet_o to_o make_v the_o same_o man_n to_o bear_v one_o part_n of_o the_o deserve_a punishment_n for_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o same_o be_v matter_n contradictory_n the_o fire_n of_o helie_n speak_v no_o better_a to_o the_o purpose_n adam_n say_v he_o have_v pardon_n for_o his_o sin_n and_o yet_o both_o he_o and_o his_o posterity_n have_v incur_v many_o calamity_n 1._o hereto_o we_o do_v answer_v that_o to_o no_o end_n he_o here_o come_v in_o with_o the_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n that_o be_v common_a to_o all_o man_n since_o that_o in_o this_o place_n we_o deal_v only_o with_o punishment_n proper_a to_o the_o child_n of_o god_n 2._o he_o deceive_v himself_o in_o think_v that_o the_o evil_n and_o pain_n for_o all_o man_n be_v punishment_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o adam_n for_o they_o be_v punishment_n because_o man_n do_v persist_v in_o the_o sin_n of_o adam_n god_n never_o punish_v one_o man_n for_o another_o man_n sin_n the_o child_n shall_v not_o bear_v the_o iniquity_n of_o his_o father_n say_v ezechiell_n 18.20_o true_a it_o be_v that_o so_o many_o calamity_n have_v never_o befall_v mankind_n have_v not_o adam_n sin_v but_o yet_o this_o stand_v ever_o firm_a that_o god_n never_o punish_v any_o before_o they_o have_v thorough_o deserve_v it_o 3._o he_o presuppose_v that_o which_o be_v false_a and_o yet_o in_o question_n namely_o that_o the_o pain_n whereto_o the_o faithful_a be_v subject_v by_o the_o sin_n of_o adam_n be_v satisfaction_n payment_n and_o redemption_n to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n for_o of_o this_o kind_n of_o pain_n do_v we_o now_o entreat_v because_o 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