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A18441 [A treatise against the Defense of the censure, giuen upon the bookes of W.Charke and Meredith Hanmer, by an unknowne popish traytor in maintenance of the seditious challenge of Edmond Campion ... Hereunto are adjoyned two treatises, written by D.Fulke ... ] Charke, William, d. 1617, attributed name.; Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1586 (1586) STC 5009; ESTC S111939 659,527 941

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power_n in_o we_o to_o perform_v that_o shall_v be_v do_v as_o in_o all_o the_o reprobate_n and_o unregenerate_a and_o in_o the_o regenerate_a also_o in_o part_n which_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v in_o this_o life_n love_n god_n and_o their_o neighbour_n in_o such_o perfection_n as_o the_o law_n of_o god_n require_v there_o be_v omission_n also_o through_o ignorance_n of_o god_n law_n which_o be_v sin_n and_o deserve_v stripe_n and_o yet_o ignorance_n the_o cause_n thereof_o be_v no_o act_n but_o the_o lack_n of_o knowledge_n but_o be_v overcome_v by_o scripture_n and_o reason_n you_o fly_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o first_o you_o quote_v chrysost._n homil._n 16._o in_o epist._n ad_fw-la eph._n most_o impudent_o where_o by_o scripture_n reason_n &_o example_n he_o 48._o teach_v the_o clean_a contrary_n that_o omission_n of_o duty_n be_v sin_n though_o there_o be_v no_o act_n to_o the_o contrary_a as_o when_o christ_n shall_v say_v i_o be_v a_o hunger_a etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v nihilenim_fw-la boni_fw-la facere_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipsum_fw-la est_fw-la malum_fw-la facere_fw-la to_o do_v no_o good_a even_o that_o be_v to_o do_v evil_a or_o to_o sin_n the_o like_a he_o say_v hom._n de_fw-fr virtut_o &_o vitiis_fw-la satis_fw-la est_fw-la igitur_fw-la mali_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipsum_fw-la nihil_fw-la fecisse_fw-la boni_fw-la even_o this_o be_v evil_a enough_o to_o have_v do_v no_o good_a ambrose_n hom_n 18_o have_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n or_o if_o you_o mean_v 81._o which_o be_v translate_v out_o of_o basil_n hom_n which_o you_o quote_v next_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o your_o purpose_n but_o rather_o against_o it_o for_o upon_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n math._n 25._o i_o be_v a_o hunger_a and_o you_o give_v i_o not_o to_o eat_v he_o write_v thus_o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la in_o his_o verbis_fw-la qui_fw-la aliena_fw-la invasit_fw-la arguitur_fw-la sed_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la non_fw-la communiter_fw-la usus_fw-la est_fw-la iis_fw-la que_fw-la habuit_fw-la condemnatur_fw-la for_o in_o these_o word_n he_o be_v not_o reproove_v which_o have_v lay_v bold_a upon_o other_o man_n good_n but_o he_o which_o have_v not_o communicate_v those_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v be_v condemn_v n_v basills_n word_n in_o greek_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o extortioner_n be_v not_o horrea_fw-la there_o accuse_v but_o he_o that_o do_v not_o communicate_v be_v condemn_v last_o of_o all_o you_o charge_v we_o with_o that_o definition_n of_o saint_n augustine_n contra_fw-la faust._n lib._n 22._o cap._n 27._o peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la factum_fw-la vel_fw-la etc._n etc._n sin_n be_v something_o do_v or_o say_v or_o covet_v against_o the_o eternal_a law_n but_o if_o this_o be_v a_o perfect_a definition_n what_o need_v the_o jesuite_n to_o frame_v another_o according_a to_o who_o definition_n this_o of_o saint_n augustine_n be_v large_a than_o the_o word_n define_v and_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o omission_n it_o be_v straight_a than_o the_o term_n of_o sin_n yet_o it_o serve_v saint_n augustine_n for_o his_o purpose_n in_o hand_n concern_v the_o fact_n of_o the_o patriarch_n mention_v in_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v to_o be_v praise_v and_o which_o to_o be_v dispraise_v as_o for_o ambrose_n in_o the_o place_n by_o you_o quote_v lib._n de_fw-fr paradiso_fw-la cap._n 8._o have_v another_o definition_n than_o augustine_n and_o a_o more_o perfect_a take_v out_o of_o saint_n john_n quidest_fw-la enim_fw-la peccatum_fw-la say_v he_o nisi_fw-la praevaricatio_fw-la legis_fw-la divinae_fw-la &_o coelestium_fw-la inobedientia_fw-la praeceptorum_fw-la for_o what_o be_v sin_n but_o the_o transgression_n of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o a_o disobedience_n of_o the_o heavenly_a commandment_n this_o definition_n of_o ambrose_n be_v perfect_a and_o make_v
operuerit_fw-la numquid_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la fide_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la prorsus_fw-la in_fw-la quantum_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la fide_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la quia_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la ipsum_fw-la factum_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la nudum_fw-la operire_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la tali_fw-la opere_fw-la non_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la gloriari_fw-la solus_fw-la impius_fw-la negate_fw-la esse_fw-la peccatum_fw-la if_o a_o heathen_a man_n say_v thou_o do_v clothe_v the_o naked_a be_v it_o sin_n because_o it_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n yea_o out_o of_o doubt_n in_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n it_o be_v sin_n not_o because_o the_o deed_n itself_o which_o be_v to_o clothe_v the_o naked_a be_v sin_n but_o not_o to_o rejoice_v in_o the_o lord_n of_o such_o a_o work_n none_o but_o a_o ungodlie_a man_n will_v deny_v to_o be_v sin_n this_o and_o much_o more_o to_o this_o effect_n have_v saint_n augustine_n in_o that_o place_n against_o the_o pelagian_o which_o with_o the_o papi_v deny_v that_o such_o work_n of_o the_o infidel_n be_v sin_n but_o albeit_o saint_n augustine_n be_v direct_o against_o you_o yet_o saint_n jerome_n you_o think_v may_v help_v you_o in_o ezechiell_n cap._n 29._o who_o say_v thus_o caeterùm_fw-la ex_fw-la eo_fw-la quòd_fw-la nabuchodonoser_n mercedem_fw-la accepit_fw-la boni_fw-la operis_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ethnicos_fw-la si_fw-la quid_fw-la boni_fw-la fecerint_fw-la non_fw-la absque_fw-la mercede_fw-la dei_fw-la iudicio_fw-la praeteriri_fw-la but_o of_o this_o that_o nabuchodonuser_n recevy_v arewarde_o of_o good_a work_n we_o understand_v that_o even_o the_o gentile_n if_o they_o have_v do_v any_o good_a thing_n be_v not_o pass_v over_o without_o reward_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o god_n reward_v virtue_n in_o the_o gentile_n it_o proove_v not_o their_o moral_a work_n be_v not_o sin_n in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o be_v not_o do_v of_o faith_n as_o s._n augustine_n at_o large_a teach_v in_o both_o the_o book_n and_o place_n last_o cite_v for_o those_o good_a fact_n be_v of_o the_o relic_n of_o god_n image_n not_o altogether_o blot_v out_o which_o god_n do_v reward_n as_o his_o own_o work_n in_o they_o but_o in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o do_v not_o those_o good_a deed_n well_o they_o be_v sin_n in_o the_o doer_n as_o saint_n augustine_n say_v and_o therefore_o neither_o saint_n augustine_n nor_o saint_n jerome_n be_v against_o master_n charke_n in_o this_o cause_n the_o three_o fault_n of_o your_o definition_n master_n chark_n say_v be_v that_o you_o restrain_v sin_n only_o to_o voluntary_a action_n against_o which_o you_o oppose_v saint_n augustine_n in_o many_o quotation_n where_o he_o repeat_v these_o word_n so_o often_o sin_n be_v a_o evil_a so_o voluntary_a as_o it_o can_v be_v by_o no_o mean_n sin_n except_o it_o be_v voluntary_a but_o what_o his_o judgement_n be_v of_o those_o word_n appear_v best_a in_o his_o retractation_n which_o you_o quote_v lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o &_o 15._o in_o the_o former_a he_o say_v pate_a videri_fw-la falsa_fw-la haec_fw-la definitio_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la diligenter_n discutiaiur_fw-fr invenieiur_fw-fr esse_fw-la verissima_fw-la peccatum_fw-la quip_n illud_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la etiam_fw-la paena_fw-la peccati_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o definition_n may_v seem_v to_o be_v false_a but_o if_o it_o be_v diligent_o discuss_v it_o shall_v be_v find_v to_o be_v most_o true_a for_o that_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v therein_o which_o be_v only_a sin_n and_o not_o also_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o when_o i_o rehearse_v certain_a thing_n out_o of_o my_o three_o book_n of_o free_a will_n although_o even_o those_o sin_n which_o not_o unworthelie_o be_v call_v sin_n not_o voluntary_a because_o they_o be_v 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of_o will_n which_o master_n chark_n grant_v and_o therefore_o that_o childish_a insultation_n need_v not_o but_o to_o show_v your_o pride_n in_o contempt_n of_o other_o as_o though_o all_o learning_n have_v be_v breed_v with_o you_o and_o be_v like_a to_o die_v if_o you_o do_v not_o plant_v it_o in_o us._n saint_n augustine_n therefore_o be_v clear_a that_o that_o sin_n which_o be_v a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o voluntary_a and_o that_o his_o definition_n as_o he_o call_v it_o be_v only_o of_o sin_n which_o have_v none_o other_o consideration_n but_o as_o sin_n his_o disputation_n be_v against_o the_o manichee_n which_o derive_v sin_n from_o a_o evil_a god_n and_o not_o from_o the_o free_a will_n of_o man_n or_o devil_n first_o create_v good_a by_o the_o only_a good_a god_n but_o you_o have_v scripture_n to_o prove_v every_o act_n or_o omission_n which_o be_v sin_n to_o be_v voluntary_a because_o christ_n himself_o say_v that_o those_o thing_n which_o do_v defile_v a_o man_n 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innocens_fw-la &c_n &c_n the_o innocent_a shall_v be_v deliver_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o revenger_n so_o great_a a_o rabbin_z as_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o be_v by_o your_o quotation_n out_o of_o rabbi_n isaac_n rabbi_n mose_n and_o rabbi_n levi_n shall_v not_o be_v ignorant_a that_o in_o the_o hebrew_n text_n the_o word_n be_v harotzeach_v that_o be_v the_o killer_n &_o not_o the_o innocent_a which_o yet_o be_v adjudge_v to_o escape_v punishment_n 25._o of_o death_n by_o the_o politic_a law_n because_o in_o respect_n of_o man_n judgement_n he_o have_v not_o offend_v for_o which_o cause_n also_o deut._n 19_o his_o blood_n be_v call_v innocent_a yet_o his_o fly_v to_o the_o city_n of_o refuge_n and_o imprisonment_n there_o until_o the_o death_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n argue_v as_o master_n charke_n say_v that_o there_o be_v something_o in_o his_o fact_n or_o the_o error_n by_o which_o he_o commit_v the_o fact_n that_o have_v need_n of_o forgiveness_n by_o christ_n
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be_v nothing_o sound_v to_o the_o matter_n but_o rather_o the_o contrary_a that_o perfection_n can_v be_v in_o this_o life_n because_o there_o can_v be_v perfect_a justice_n or_o fulfil_n of_o the_o law_n where_o before_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o your_o impudency_n in_o these_o quotation_n and_o yet_o as_o though_o you_o have_v find_v a_o great_a 〈◊〉_d you_o say_v it_o be_v most_o worthy_a of_o laughter_n which_o master_n charke_n for_o fill_v up_o of_o a_o page_n discourse_v of_o s._n paul_n estate_n when_o he_o say_v paul_n compare_v his_o estate_n before_o his_o knowledge_n of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n with_o his_o state_n afterward_o etc._n etc._n very_o the_o greek_a proverb_n have_v place_n in_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n a_o fool_n lauh_v when_o there_o be_v nothing_o worthy_a of_o laughter_n you_o ask_v how_o he_o can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o commandment_n consider_v his_o education_n &_o yet_o be_v able_a to_o 〈◊〉_d other_o sin_n by_o the_o 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and_o ministry_n of_o some_o secundarie_n i_o answer_v the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o may_v be_v but_o what_o be_v do_v in_o that_o case_n whereof_o saint_n hilary_n judgement_n be_v flat_a against_o you_o his_o word_n be_v in_o mat._n come_v canon_n 8._o movet_fw-la scribas_fw-la remissum_fw-la ab_fw-la homine_fw-la peccatum_fw-la hominem_fw-la enim_fw-la tantùm_fw-la in_o jesu_fw-la christo_fw-la confitebantur_fw-la &_o remissum_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la lex_fw-la laxare_fw-la non_fw-la poteratifides_fw-la enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d iustificat_fw-la deinde_fw-la murmurationem_fw-la eorum_fw-la dominus_fw-la introspicit_fw-la dicitque_fw-la facilè_fw-la esse_fw-la filio_fw-la hominis_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la peccata_fw-la dimittere_fw-la verùm_fw-la enim_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la dimittere_fw-la pecoata_fw-la nisi_fw-la solus_fw-la deus_fw-la ergo_fw-la quiremittit_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la nemo_fw-la remittie_n nisi_fw-la deus_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la 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enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d naufragium_fw-la tabula_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la est_fw-la &_o consolatio_fw-la miseriarum_fw-la impietatem_fw-la svam_fw-la abscondere_fw-la and_o as_o the_o sodomite_n sin_v with_o all_o licentiousness_n and_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o any_o shame_n in_o their_o wickedness_n say_v unto_o lot_n bring_v forth_o those_o man_n that_o we_o may_v lie_v with_o they_o even_o so_o these_o man_n have_v declare_v their_o own_o sin_n openlle_v proclaim_v it_o and_o in_o blaspheme_v have_v no_o shamefastness_n for_o the_o second_o board_n after_o shipwreck_n be_v repentance_n and_o a_o comfort_n of_o misery_n to_o hide_v their_o own_o ungodliness_n the_o sense_n be_v manifest_a that_o they_o which_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o their_o sin_n be_v far_o from_o repentance_n and_o in_o a_o desperate_a state_n for_o they_o that_o have_v make_v shipwreck_n of_o honesty_n and_o godliness_n have_v no_o recovery_n but_o by_o repentance_n so_o that_o hieromes_n say_v except_o it_o be_v 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