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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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〈◊〉_d sin_n after_o baptism_n be_v renew_v by_o the_o virtue_n of_o repentance_n convertimur_fw-la luc._n 22._o 62._o but_o it_o be_v erroneous_a that_o there_o be_v two_o distinct_a kind_n of_o repentance_n one_o before_o and_o the_o other_o after_o baptism_n the_o one_o a_o virtue_n only_o the_o other_o both_o a_o sacrament_n and_o a_o virtue_n for_o where_o there_o be_v the_o same_o definition_n there_o be_v also_o the_o same_o thing_n in_o kind_n but_o repentance_n before_o and_o after_o baptism_n have_v the_o same_o definition_n and_o integrall_a part_n to_o wit_n contrition_n for_o sin_n commit_v confession_n to_o god_n and_o if_o need_v require_v confession_n to_o man_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o fault_n amendment_n of_o life_n and_o humble_a supplication_n by_o prayer_n of_o faith_n for_o reconciliation_n with_o god_n and_o for_o remission_n of_o sin_n matth._n 3.6_o luc._n 3.10_o act._n 3._o 19_o &_o cap._n 8.22_o &_o cap._n 26.20_o also_o the_o grace_n and_o promise_v of_o remission_n be_v make_v to_o repentance_n before_o and_o after_o baptism_n act._n 3._o 19_o &_o 5.31_o &_o 8.22_o apoc._n 2._o 5._o 16._o and_o if_o repentance_n before_o baptism_n be_v no_o sacrament_n what_o cause_v it_o to_o be_v such_o after_o baptism_n for_o no_o visible_a element_n or_o sign_n be_v add_v neither_o be_v any_o promise_n of_o a_o different_a kind_n from_o the_o former_a annex_v and_o although_o the_o apostle_n 1._o cor._n 5.3_o &_o 2._o cor._n 2_o 3._o etc._n etc._n &_o cap._n 7.8_o and_o also_o the_o primitive_a church_n lapsis_fw-la urge_v a_o strict_a manner_n and_o degree_n of_o humiliation_n upon_o notorious_a delinquent_n after_o baptism_n than_o before_o yet_o this_o discipline_n change_v not_o the_o kind_n or_o substance_n of_o repentance_n but_o increase_v only_o the_o quantity_n and_o measure_n thereof_o jesuit_fw-la four_o the_o roman_a church_n hold_v that_o god_n by_o penance_n forgive_a the_o eternal_a punishment_n do_v in_o lieu_n thereof_o many_o time_n appoint_v a_o task_n of_o temporal_a pain_n to_o be_v endure_v by_o the_o penitent_a this_o reserve_v penalty_n be_v great_a or_o lesser_a according_a to_o the_o multitude_n and_o grievousnesse_n of_o the_o sin_n commit_v and_o be_v that_o for_o which_o penitent_n may_v and_o must_v satisfy_v and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o penal_a work_n perform_v by_o the_o child_n of_o god_n beautify_v by_o so_o manyafore-named_n excellent_a grace_n be_v sufficient_a to_o deserve_v of_o god_n the_o remission_n of_o this_o temporal_a mulct_n and_o cancel_v the_o debt_n of_o endure_v transitory_a pain_n i_o can_v bring_v testimony_n of_o the_o most_o ancient_a father_n in_o great_a number_n for_o the_o necessity_n we_o have_v of_o suffer_v these_o voluntary_a affliction_n for_o sin_n and_o of_o the_o efficacitie_n thereof_o to_o expiate_v sin_n with_o the_o very_a name_n of_o satisfaction_n there_o be_v scarce_o any_o ancient_a father_n that_o have_v not_o teach_v both_o the_o thing_n and_o the_o word_n answer_n when_o god_n pardon_v a_o sinner_n he_o do_v it_o not_o by_o way_n of_o exchange_n or_o parcel_a but_o remit_v all_o punishment_n of_o malediction_n or_o pure_a revenge_n est_fw-la for_o that_o which_o be_v so_o forgive_v as_o that_o after_o pardon_v it_o be_v not_o mention_v or_o remember_v and_o which_o be_v cast_v behind_o god_n back_n and_o throw_v into_o the_o bottom_n of_o the_o sea_n and_o which_o can_v no_o where_o be_v find_v and_o be_v blot_v out_o of_o the_o debt-book_n of_o the_o almighty_a be_v not_o take_v away_o by_o commutation_n of_o a_o great_a punishment_n into_o a_o less_o but_o by_o a_o free_a and_o full_a condonation_n of_o all_o vindictive_a punishment_n but_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o primitive_a father_n teach_v such_o a_o remission_n of_o sin_n on_o god_n part_n to_o the_o penitent_a ezech._n 18.22_o esa._n 38._o 17._o &_o ca._n 43._o 25._o &_o 44._o 22._o mich._n 7.19_o jer._n 50.20_o heb._n 8._o 12._o &_o 10._o 17._o col._n 2._o 14._o matth._n 18.32_o s._n augustine_n ignoscere_fw-la if_o god_n have_v cover_v sin_n he_o will_v not_o observe_v he_o will_v not_o think_v upon_o they_o to_o punish_v they_o he_o will_v not_o take_v knowledge_n but_o rather_o pardon_n gregory_n 18._o the_o great_a ignoscendo_fw-la impunita_fw-la relinquit_fw-la by_o pardon_v he_o leave_v they_o unpunished_a cassiodorus_n 84._o remittere_fw-la est_fw-la debitum_fw-la relaxare_fw-la non_fw-la causae_fw-la alicuius_fw-la interuentu_fw-la sed_fw-la pietatis_fw-la intuitu_fw-la to_o remit_v be_v to_o release_v the_o debt_n not_o by_o intercourse_n of_o any_o cause_n on_o man_n part_n but_o by_o aspect_n of_o piety_n nevertheless_o after_o great_a and_o enormous_a offence_n commit_v by_o his_o people_n god_n do_v chastise_v they_o deus_fw-la with_o the_o rod_n of_o correction_n psal._n 89._o 33._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 31_o 32._o and_o this_o correction_n be_v a_o pain_n of_o castigation_n lament_v jerem._n 3.39_o but_o not_o a_o punishment_n of_o malediction_n 〈◊〉_d galath_n 3._o 13._o a_o work_n of_o god_n mercy_n rather_o than_o of_o his_o justice._n the_o difference_n between_o pontifician_n and_o we_o in_o this_o doctrine_n be_v that_o we_o believe_v a_o remainder_n of_o temporal_a affliction_n after_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n only_o and_o that_o for_o chastisement_n virtutem_fw-la erudition_n and_o probation_n they_o maintain_v a_o remainder_n of_o temporal_a punishment_n after_o sin_n remit_v not_o only_o in_o this_o present_a life_n but_o after_o the_o same_o in_o purgatory_n further_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o affliction_n or_o pain_n of_o chastisement_n inflict_v upon_o penitent_a sinner_n may_v by_o prayer_n of_o faith_n exercise_n of_o virtue_n humiliation_n and_o mortification_n be_v either_o remove_v or_o else_o mitigate_v and_o convert_v to_o the_o increase_n of_o grace_n and_o glory_n in_o those_o which_o with_o patience_n and_o holiness_n endure_v the_o same_o in_o this_o life_n but_o we_o deny_v either_o that_o any_o pain_n follow_v just_a person_n after_o their_o decease_n or_o that_o in_o this_o life_n they_o can_v by_o prayer_n mortification_n or_o any_o good_a work_n merit_n release_n of_o any_o temporal_a mulct_n or_o satisfy_v the_o divine_a justice_n for_o the_o least_o fault_n or_o guilt_n of_o any_o sin_n on_o their_o own_o behalf_n much_o less_o for_o other_o and_o whereas_o the_o jesuit_n affirm_v that_o he_o can_v produce_v testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o great_a number_n both_o for_o our_o necessity_n of_o suffer_v voluntary_a affliction_n and_o also_o for_o the_o efficacitie_n thereof_o to_o expiate_v sin_n and_o to_o satisfy_v i_o answer_v first_o that_o the_o father_n and_o holy_a scripture_n require_v work_n of_o humiliation_n and_o mortification_n not_o as_o meritorious_a but_o only_o as_o mean_n and_o cause_n impetrant_fw-la or_o deprecant_fw-la to_o appease_v god_n wrath_n for_o sin_n second_o the_o father_n understand_v not_o the_o word_n satisfaction_n strict_o and_o in_o rigour_n for_o satisfaction_n of_o condignity_n as_o romist_n do_v remissionem_fw-la but_o improper_o and_o large_o to_o wit_n for_o satisfaction_n of_o deprecation_n congruity_n or_o impetration_n and_o according_a to_o their_o acceptation_n and_o use_v the_o word_n satisfaction_n comprehend_v contrition_n and_o confession_n and_o not_o sacramental_a satisfaction_n only_o also_o they_o require_v satisfaction_n as_o a_o remedy_n against_o the_o guilt_n of_o mortal_a sin_n and_o not_o only_o as_o a_o purgative_n of_o venial_a sin_n or_o as_o a_o remedy_n against_o temporal_a pain_n only_o but_o to_o the_o end_n the_o reader_n may_v evident_o perceive_v the_o popish_a fraud_n in_o pervert_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v satisfaction_n i_o will_v in_o this_o place_n distinct_o compare_v their_o doctrine_n with_o the_o present_a romish_a tenet_n first_o it_o be_v consess_v that_o many_o father_n use_v the_o word_n satisfaction_n 2._o and_o require_v penitent_a person_n to_o perform_v the_o same_o to_o god_n and_o man_n second_o within_o the_o name_n of_o satisfaction_n they_o include_v and_o comprehend_v contrition_n to_o god_n confession_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n eleemosynis_fw-la three_o they_o require_v satisfaction_n for_o the_o fault_n and_o eternal_a guilt_n of_o sin_n aeternus_fw-la and_o not_o only_o for_o remoovall_a of_o temporal_a punishment_n four_o the_o word_n satisfaction_n be_v take_v in_o two_o notion_n first_o strict_o for_o a_o just_a and_o equal_a compensation_n of_o the_o injury_n commit_v against_o god_n which_o schoolman_n term_n satisfaction_n of_o condignity_n iustitia_fw-la second_o for_o a_o interpretative_a compensation_n as_o durand_n congruo_fw-la term_v it_o ground_v upon_o divine_a favour_n and_o acceptation_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o complete_a dignity_n of_o the_o action_n the_o schoolman_n term_v this_o latter_a satisfaction_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o impetration_n because_o god_n in_o his_o favourable_a indulgence_n 〈◊〉_d more_o on_o man_n part_n as_o necessary_a to_o
quantity_n of_o the_o work_n 2._o cor._n 9.6_o four_o the_o reward_n be_v certain_a 109._o and_o infallible_a yea_o more_o certain_a than_o any_o temporal_a benefit_n which_o man_n present_o enjoy_v in_o the_o world_n gen._n 22.16_o five_o there_o be_v in_o all_o good_a work_v a_o dignity_n not_o of_o desert_n or_o equiparance_n either_o in_o respect_n of_o god_n of_o who_o we_o can_v deserve_v nothing_o persoluit_fw-la or_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o reward_n but_o only_o of_o grace_n divine_a similitude_n goodness_n and_o honour_n phil._n 4.8_o six_o the_o reward_n of_o good_a work_n be_v call_v a_o crown_n of_o righteousness_n gratia_fw-la 2._o tim._n 4._o 8._o because_o it_o be_v bestow_v on_o they_o which_o exercise_n righteousness_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o righteousness_n but_o merit_n of_o condignity_n and_o righteousness_n be_v 〈◊〉_d tsting_n as_o appear_v in_o angel_n and_o infant_n which_o have_v righteousness_n and_o be_v crown_v with_o glory_n and_o yet_o they_o do_v not_o merit_v seven_o the_o ancient_a father_n maintain_v no_o merit_n of_o condignity_n but_o by_o the_o word_n mereri_fw-la they_o understand_v either_o to_o obtain_v aduentum_fw-la or_o to_o impetrate_v 7._o and_o this_o be_v manifest_a because_o they_o apply_v the_o word_n merit_n not_o only_o to_o just_a man_n but_o also_o to_o sinner_n say_v that_o they_o merit_v repentance_n remission_n of_o sin_n the_o call_z of_o grace_n etc._n etc._n eitht_o the_o prime_a part_n of_o man_n justice_n be_v the_o remission_n of_o his_o sin_n 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n for_o without_o these_o there_o can_v be_v no_o true_a and_o live_a moral_a righteousness_n and_o where_o these_o be_v find_v good_a work_n be_v never_o want_v jesuit_fw-la sixth_o their_o error_n against_o baptism_n the_o gate_n and_o entrance_n into_o christian_a life_n whereof_o they_o deny_v the_o virtue_n to_o sanctify_v man_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d thereof_o for_o infant_n to_o who_o they_o grant_v salvation_n without_o baptism_n answer_n although_o some_o person_n have_v be_v christian_n before_o their_o baptism_n as_o s._n augustine_n e._n say_v of_o cornelius_n even_o as_o in_o abraham_n the_o justice_n of_o faith_n be_v precedent_n and_o the_o seal_n of_o circumcision_n follow_v after_o so_o likewise_o in_o cornelius_n spiritual_a sanctification_n by_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n go_v before_o and_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n in_o the_o laver_n of_o baptism_n succeed_v yet_o notwithstanding_o the_o ordinary_a gate_n and_o entrance_n into_o christian_a life_n be_v baptism_n s._n ambrose_n sieve_n prosper_n d._n vocat_fw-la gentium_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 5_o oriatur_fw-la the_o beginning_n of_o true_a life_n and_o righteousness_n be_v lay_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n that_o look_v where_o man_n be_v new_o bear_v there_o also_o the_o verity_n of_o virtue_n themselves_o may_v spring_v neither_o do_v protestant_n deny_v the_o virtue_n and_o efficacy_n of_o baptism_n to_o sanctify_v man_n but_o according_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n eph._n 5.26_o tit._n 3.5_o gal._n 3.27.1_o pet._n 3.21_o act_n 22.16_o rom._n 6.3_o and_o the_o ancient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d they_o teach_v and_o maintain_v that_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o instrument_n of_o sanctification_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o form_n of_o administration_n of_o baptism_n have_v these_o word_n see_v now_o d._n b._n that_o these_o child_n be_v regenerate_v etc._n etc._n we_o yield_v thou_o hearty_a thanks_n most_o merciful_a father_n that_o it_o have_v please_v thou_o to_o regenerate_v this_o infant_n with_o thy_o holy_a spirit_n to_o receive_v he_o for_o thy_o own_o child_n by_o adoption_n etc._n etc._n and_o master_n hooker_n 174._o say_v baptism_n be_v a_o sacrament_n which_o god_n have_v institute_v in_o his_o church_n to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o which_o receive_v the_o same_o may_v thereby_o be_v incorporate_v into_o christ_n and_o so_o through_o his_o most_o precious_a merit_n obtain_v as_o well_o that_o save_a grace_n of_o imputation_n which_o take_v away_o all_o former_a guiltiness_n and_o also_o that_o infuse_v divine_a virtue_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o give_v to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o soul_n their_o first_o disposition_n towards_o future_a newness_n of_o life_n zanchius_n aspergentem_fw-la have_v these_o word_n when_o the_o minister_n baptise_v i_o believe_v that_o christ_n with_o his_o hand_n reach_v as_o it_o be_v from_o heaven_n besprinkle_v the_o child_n baptize_v with_o water_n with_o his_o blood_n to_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o in_o another_o place_n bona_fw-la the_o holy_a ghost_n move_v upon_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n and_o sanctify_v the_o same_o make_v it_o to_o be_v a_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n calvin_n 5._o say_v per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la christus_fw-la nos_fw-la mortis_fw-la suae_fw-la fecit_fw-la participes_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o eam_fw-la inseramur_fw-la by_o baptism_n christ_n have_v make_v we_o partaker_n of_o his_o death_n that_o we_o may_v be_v ingraff_v into_o it_o and_o in_o another_o place_n nullum_fw-la if_o any_o man_n demand_n how_o can_v infant_n which_o want_v understanding_n be_v regenerate_v i_o answer_v although_o we_o be_v not_o able_a to_o fathom_v or_o unfold_v the_o manner_n of_o this_o work_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d it_o follow_v not_o from_o thence_o that_o the_o same_o be_v not_o do_v and_o the_o same_o author_n with_o other_o of_o his_o part_n maintain_v the_o former_a doctrine_n concern_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o they_o differ_v only_o from_o lutheran_n and_o pontifician_o first_o in_o that_o they_o restrain_v the_o grace_n of_o sanctification_n only_o to_o the_o elect_a bap._n second_o in_o that_o they_o deny_v external_a baptism_n to_o be_v always_o effectual_a at_o the_o very_a instant_a time_n when_o it_o be_v administer_v ibid._n but_o our_o adversary_n must_v be_v over_o rigid_a if_o they_o shall_v censure_v question_n of_o this_o nature_n which_o be_v touch_v circumstance_n so_o hardly_o as_o to_o make_v every_o such_o difference_n a_o fundamental_a error_n especial_o because_o some_o among_o themselves_o as_o the_o master_n of_o the_o school_n report_v prodesse_fw-la affirm_v the_o same_o three_o whereas_o the_o obiector_n add_v that_o protestant_n deny_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n for_o infant_n grant_v they_o salvation_n without_o baptism_n he_o must_v understand_v that_o necessity_n be_v either_o absolute_a or_o else_o of_o precept_n and_o supposition_n we_o very_o maintain_v the_o latter_a necessity_n of_o baptism_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n against_o the_o pelagian_n and_o anabaptist_n and_o the_o contempt_n and_o wilful_a neglect_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n be_v damnable_a to_o such_o as_o be_v guilty_a of_o this_o contempt_n and_o our_o church_n etc._n provide_v diligent_o that_o all_o infant_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a may_v receive_v baptism_n before_o they_o depart_v this_o life_n but_o if_o it_o fall_v out_o inevitable_a possit_fw-la that_o new_o bear_v babe_n descend_v of_o christian_a parent_n can_v receive_v this_o sacrament_n not_o only_a protestant_n but_o the_o ancient_a church_n itself_o and_o discreet_a papist_n have_v think_v it_o more_o pious_a to_o hope_v of_o god_n indulgence_n towards_o such_o infant_n than_o to_o aggravate_v his_o vengeance_n with_o such_o rigour_n and_o extremity_n as_o the_o trent_n father_n 7._o and_o their_o disciple_n alios_fw-la do_v first_o the_o ancient_a church_n allot_v only_o two_o season_n 14_o in_o the_o year_n for_o baptism_n which_o they_o can_v not_o in_o their_o charity_n have_v thus_o restrain_v to_o set_v time_n if_o they_o have_v be_v persuade_v as_o modern_a papal_o be_v second_o gerson_n mariae_fw-la biel_n 2._o and_o caietan_n castrate_v with_o many_o other_o famous_a pontifician_n existimo_fw-la affirm_v that_o infant_n depart_v 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bundle_n he_o teach_v we_o to_o pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n that_o be_v all_o our_o debt_n psal._n 103.3_o as_o we_o forgive_v our_o debtor_n math._n 6.12_o if_o therefore_o our_o adversary_n teach_v no_o more_o concern_v this_o than_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o this_o section_n to_o wit_n that_o no_o saint_n or_o angel_n can_v make_v satisfaction_n to_o god_n for_o mortal_a sin_n this_o doctrine_n be_v true_a but_o there_o be_v also_o a_o further_a truth_n to_o wit_n no_o saint_n or_o angel_n can_v make_v compensant_fw-la satisfaction_n to_o god_n for_o the_o guilt_n of_o any_o sin_n great_a or_o small_a but_o all_o such_o satisfaction_n take_v the_o word_n proper_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n who_o tread_v the_o winepress_a alone_o and_o of_o the_o people_n there_o be_v none_o with_o he_o esa._n 63._o 3._o joh._n 1.29_o 1._o joh._n 2.2_o second_o it_o be_v a_o verity_n that_o regenerate_a person_n