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A53583	Man wholly mortal, or, A treatise wherein 'tis proved, both theologically and philosophically, that as whole man sinned, so whole man died ... with doubts and objections answered and resolved, both by Scripture and reason ... : also, divers other mysteries, as of heaven, hell, the extent of the resurrection, the new-creation, &c. opened, and presented to the trial of better judgment. / by R.O.; Mans mortallitie	Overton, Richard, fl. 1646.; Overton, Robert, ca. 1609-ca. 1668.	1675 (1675)	Wing O629C; Wing O640_CANCELLED; ESTC R11918	46,615	138

the Dictates of Nature and Reason let us repair to the unerring rule of the Scriptures to see how this mortality is either proved or disproved thereby And first we may consider that the Scripture saith that when God had molded formed and compleatly proportionated Adam of the dust of the ground he breathed in his face the breath of life and man became a living Soul Gen. 2.7 Here first we are to consider that we are not to speak of Man as the title or word man may be ascribed to the humane shape or carcasse as in this place it seemeth it is by way of distinction from other forms but of such an humane shape or carcasse as is a living soul and so alwayes when we speak or treat of man in this point of difference we are not to mean his carcase in humane form or shape onely but as he is a rational living soul in that form and so call'd man for the text ascribeth the title of Man to him both before and after the breathing in his face the breath of life and man became a living Soul therefore that living Soul was Man That which was formed or made of the earth became a living soul or creature by the breathing or communicating the breath of life a communicative rational Faculty or property of life in his kinde That liveless Lumpe became a living soul and not such a living soul another creature a distinct being of it self was infused into that formed matter that had its Being before that Infusion and can be when the body ceaseth as is vulgarly supposed That which was breathed before it was breathed was not a living soul but that which was breathed upon became the living soul no living soul was ascribed to man before that so that man was formed and man became a living soul as Paul saith 1 Cor. 15.45 The first man Adam was made a living Soul which was his natural body as vers 44. of whom was the woman both innocent free from sin and so from Death and mortality For the wages of Sin is Death Romans 6.23 therefore before sin there could be no death but as by one man sin entered into the world even so death by sin Rom. 5.12 and by the offence of one man Judgement came upon all men unto death vers 18. and 1 Cor. 15.21 by man came death therefore man was created free from the power of death so to continue but in the day he did eat the forbidden fruit he became mortal and as he was made a living soul 1 Cor. 15.45 so by transgression a dying soul Gen. 2.17 that is in dying to die or by becomming mortal be dissolved or return to what he was the dust Gen. 3.19 namely his Elements Thus Man was gloriously immortal yet no longer a Creature incorruptible then during innocent For Gen. 2.17 God said Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely dye or dying thou shalt die that is thy immortality shall be changed for mortality Immortal Adam shall be made mortal not apart of thee but Thou shalt surely dye even whole man without the least exception of any the worst or noblest part of him unless God had a mental reservation but even the same Thou that livest Thou shalt surely die that must die wherein was life then surely if he had an immortal Soul which is the life of the body that must be made mortal The result of all which is this That what of Adam was immortal through Innocency was to be mortalized by Transgression But whole Adam quatenus Animal rationale was in Innocency immortal Ergo all and every part even whole Man was lyable to Death by Sin And so consequently if Adam had then such an indefinable thing in him of him without which he was not Man as is vulgarly supposed and zealously meintained by the Church of Rome England c. as an Angelical Spirit that neither could nor can be subject to mortality Then he had that he had not which made him be what he was not he sinned with that with which he could not which made him fall when he did not for if Adam sinned and that not it was no part of him so that Adam was a living Soul when he was not And if Adam sinned with that which he had not he sinned with that with which he could not which made him fall when he did not which Bo-peepe in impossible For if Adam was mortalized and That not It was no part of him this they must confess or else the otheer follows Now whereas many from the expression of God's breathing into man the breath of life and he became a living soul conceive an Angelical Entitie a supernatural spiritual infinite Existence to be couched in the flesh or mens corpulency whose being doth not depend on it but is proper and peculiar to it self let such know that so weake is the ground from whence it is concepted that by the same reason the like may be said of fish birds and beasts for the breath of life and a living soul is ascribed to them as well as to man Gen. 7.21 to which read the margent in R. Jatran compared with vers 28. and vers 30. And to every beast of the earth and to every Foul of the Aire and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth wherein there is a living soul see the margent This being thus cleared and proved from Adams Creation and Innocency let us proceed to his Fall Restitution and Resurrection who eating of the forbidden fruit God fulfilled his threatned Curse upon him saying Gen. 3.19 In the sweate of thy face shalt thou eate bread till thou return unto the Ground for out of it wast thou taken for Dust thou art and unto Dust thou shalt return Here he is plainly disrobed of all his immortality he must to Dust without the least mention of any being thereafter either of part or whole till the Resurrection for then and not before Mans immortality is in Actual Being whose beatitude and infelicity comes through Faith and infidelity So that Death reduceth this productio Entis ex Non-ente ad Non-entem returnes Man to what he was before he was that is not to Be Psal 115.47 the Dead praise not the Lord neither they that goe downe into silence And Psal 116.4 His breath goeth forth he returneth to the Earth in that very Day his thoughts perish see more pag. 5 6 7 8. But Christ the second man Adam who is made a quicking Spirit 1 Cor. 15.45 at the Resurrection restoreth this non-ented Entitie to an everlasting Being 1 Cor. 5.42 It is sowne in corruption it is raised in incorruption Thus Mortality is derivated to all Adams posteritie The first man quatenus homo is of the Earth earthly as is the earthly such are they that are earthly 1 Cor. 15.47 48. But the Earth of which Man is is corruptable and

shall be burnt up with fire 2 Pet. 3.10 Therefore whole Man is corruptable for as in Adam all dye 1 Cor. 15.22 even so in Christ shall all be made alive what fell in Adam shall be raised by Christ what was mortalized by the earthly Man shall be immortalized by the Heavenly man wherefore All not a part of Man was mortalized by Adam or else onely the fallen part must be redeemed and not the whole man for no more of man then fell was redeemed and if the body onely fell and his formal part his soul continued immortal then that part of man his body onely was purchased not his constitutive or better part his Soul So that the bodies onely of the Reprobate according to this fancy shall be damned for nothing of Adam but what fell of Adam can be made lyable to condemnation and what of him stood shall stand as well as the Angels that never fell But in Christ we are compleat Col. 2.10 Therefore in Adam totally fallen Further If Adams fall was not a compleat change of his whole manhood from immortality to absolute mortality of the whole then in the day that he did eate the forbidden Fruit he did not surely die for He implyes his Man-hood and my very Opposites confess the Soul the very Essence and Being of Man-hood and in the day and surely dye imply Execution as well as Transgression to be then for both have equally relation to the Day In the Day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely dye so as well may we say he did not eate as did not die That Day And if nothing dyed that is became mortal but his Body then that dyed his Soul lived that is must be as it was at first before God breathed life into it that is a dead corps and indeed was never other if the Soul were a distinct Being of self and all life in it self and the Body but an Instrument to it whereby it performeth all motion and action as Nemesius on Mans Nature p. 266. with others maintain And thus it must needs follow that this death threatned was a meer Scar-crow even nothing at all for He that is his constitutive part his Soul continued immortal and unchanged and used his body instrumentally as it did before the Transgression And if it be answered It became sinful and subject to sin and so of final Condemnation in Hell at the length I Reply That before he sinned he was subject to sin or else he could not have sinned for quicquid est in actu prius fuit in potentia and if the wages of sin be death then he must be of necessity subject to death the effect as well as sin the cause at the same time And so consequently the Souls possibilty of sinning being producted into Actual sin the Soul must have its wages Actual mortality Further if the Souls Death be onely that of Hell so then principal or efficient cause deepest in the Transgression was less punished then the instrument the Body being but the Souls instrument whereby it acts and moves as if a Magistrate should hang the Hatchet and spare the Man that beat a mans brains out with it and so the Soul suffer the last death and scape the first which is as preposterous as if this Death should be received before this Life Moreover Condemnation in Hell is not properly but remotely the reward of Adams Fall For properly Condemnation is the wages of Infidelity or unbeliefe in Christ as Salvation is of Beliefe So that none can be condemned into Hell but such as are actually guilty of refusing Christ because immortality or the Resurrection cannot be by Propagation or Succession as mortality from Adam to his Issue and so the Child though temporally yet shall it not eternally be punished for his Fathers sin but his Condemnation shall be of himself If the Soul as they say be the very life or have all life in it self and the body but its instrument then the body now hath no more life in it then when it is reduced to the earth but is as dead as a dore-naile And so at the Resurrection cannot be raised from death for that which never had life cannot be raised from death and the union of it to the Soul at the Resurrection they Fabulate on is but an addition of corpulency or gross matter to the Soul which in truth is no Resurrection at all from the dead no more then the restoration of flesh lost by Famine sickness c. For Resurrection from the death is not the addition of gross matter to life but the Restoration of life from death So that the restitution of lost flesh now to the soul is in quality as much a Resurrection from the dead as the addition of the whole body to the soul at the Last day which is to say with the Sadduces there is no Resurrection from the dead But the Soularies I know are loth to be branded for Sadduces which how they will avoid I cannot see for if the soul live separated from the body the body cannot be raised from the dead except the body had a life of its own differing from that of the soul and so a man must have two lives as they say a Cat hath nine the one mortal the other immortal and at the Resurrection have two immortalities If the soul be of a distinct being from the body and sinned as the body and thereby incurred the condemnation of Hell then must the soul have a particular redemption from thence as the body from the grave or else it must perish there for ever And if Christ redeemed us from thence then he must suffer the same eternal Torments that is the worme of conscience despaire everlasting chains of darkness c. But those he never suffered as witnesseth Doctor Ames to Bellarmine Ergo. If you urge that in his agony and sweating of blood he suffered equally with the Torments and therefore might be said to suffer eternal toments though he was never personally in hell then may we as well say that by his agony c. he suffered paine equivalent to death and therefore might be said to have suffered the death of the grave though personally he had never been in the grave for there is a greater equivalency betwixt those sufferings and the grave then betwixt his sweating of blood and the torments of the damned Spirits in hell CHAP. III. Scriptures to prove this Mortality JOb 3.12 13 16. Why did the knees prevent me or why the breasts that I should sucke for now I should have lien still and been quiet I should have s●ept then had I been at rest Or as a hidden untimely birth marke I had not been as an Infant that never saw light Job 4.19 21. How much less on them that dwell in Houses of clay whose Foundation is in the Dust which are crushed before the moth Doth not their excellency which is in them goe away they die even without Wisedome

of forgetfulness Isa 38.18 19. For the grave cannot praise thee death cannot celebrate thee they that goe down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth The living the living he shall praise thee as I do this day the Father to the Children shall make known thy truth Hence it is plain that during this Death Man is void of actual Being for had he then an incorruptible or present actual Being in glory he should be more capable of the praise and remembrance of the Lord then he was before he dyed Job 3. from the 11. to 20. Why dyed I not from the womb c. for now should I have lien still and been quiet I should have slept and then I should have been at rest as a hidden untimely birth I had not been as Infants that never saw light there the Prisoners rest together they heare not the voyce of the Oppressour Hence followeth that during this Death there is no more present Being to man then to an hidden abortive Embryo in this life and no more capability then light to unborn Infants nor more oppression or torment then where there is none to oppress which is to say He absolutely IS NOT Answerable to that of Jacob Me have ye bereaved of my children Joseph is not and Sime●n is not Gen. 42.36 to this adde Psal 146.2 Job 7.21 For now shall I sleepe in the dust and thou shalt seeke me in the Morning but I shall not be 2 Pet. 1.25 Isa 26.14 Psal 39.13 O spare me that I may recover strength before I goe hence and be no more Job 4.17 19 2O 21. Whose foundation is in the dust they perish for ever that is cease to Be till the resurrection Luke 20.37 38. Now that the dead are raised c. relating to Exod. 3.6 I am the God of Abraham c. From whence Christ proveth the resurrection But if Abraham Isaac c. had then lived in their souls it had been no Argument to prove the Resurrection for he had been the God of living souls Abraham Isaac and Jacob though there had been no resurrection Besides he saith all live unto him and this saying is ascribed unto the dead therefore as well may we argue from thence that they lived in their bodies as say they were dead in body but alive in soul unto God for it is impossible to be potentially and actually living at the same time Joh. 12.24 Except a corne of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone but if it die it bringeth forth much fruit compared to 1 Cor. 15. Thou fool that which thou sowest is not quickened except it die Therefore the soul not dying as the Soularies fabulate nor falling into the ground must abide alone and cannot bring forth fruit at the Resurrection but must abide a bare soul without a body and the body having no life in it falling into the ground cannot die for both vegetative sensitive and rational life is ascribed to the soul but must likewise abide alone and cannot be quickned which is a flat denyal of the Resurrection yet though fundamentally the Soularies thus deny the Resurrection yet verbally they say there is a resurrection which must needs be a strange one and as ridiculous as strange stated after their Imagination For the soul not falling into the ground nor dying must needs abide alone therefore if the body be raised after their conception man would be divided into two immortalities and both alone one might be in the North the other in the South the soul in one place and the body in another yea the soul in Hell and the body in Heaven for the body by their grounds is as innocent from sin as the knife wherewith a man is stabed is free from murther and the soul as guilty of all sin as the murtherer is of the murther the Scripture condemneth the guilty saveth the innocent adjudgeth one for heaven and the other for hell O monstrous Resurrection I hope the Soulary Champions the Priests of the Church of England may be ashamed longer to assert the soul to have all life in it and the body to be but the souls instrument whereby it acts and moves and henceforth cease to delude and stop the mouthes of the people with a bare verbal Resurrection that the end of their faith may be sutable to Christ Jesus the foundation on which it is to be built both real and infallible John 11.43 44. And Jesus cryed with a lovd voyce Lazarus come forth and he that was dead four days vers 39. came forth bound hand and foot with grave-clothes c. If Lazarus soul were in heaven them four dayes he received dammage and not vantage by that Resurrection but it is idle to thinke that he which purchased heaven by his blood should fetch any out after they were in and once there it is impossible to come from thence for should they it were point-blank against the nature of his death who could not worke against himself no more then God can lye 1 Pet. 1.5 7 9 13. compared as Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto Salvation ready to be revealed in the Last time that the trial of your faith c. might be found unto Praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ receiving the end of your faith the salvation of your souls and hope to the end for the grace that is brought to you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ whence it is plain that the end of our faith the salvation of our souls is referred to the day of judgment And Luk. 21.28 then is our Redemption Rom. 8.23 our Adoption to wit the Redemption of our body one with that which Peter calls the salvation of our souls Act. 23.6 24.21 26.6 7. Paul maketh the end of all his hopes and faith to be onely in the Resurrection and 1 Cor. 15.18 saith If the dead rise not believers of all men are most miserable which could not be if they had souls which went presently into glory and the wicked had souls went into Torment though there were no Resurrection yea the day of Judgement throughout the whole World is made both the day of Salvation to the Righteous Rom. 2.16 1 Thes 1.5 7. 1 Pet. 1.5 9 13. 2 Pet. 3.7 Joh. 5.29 Mat. 25.34 Then shall he say Come ye blessed therefore not before then And the day of Condemnation to the wicked Rom. 25 9. 2 Thes 1.6 8 9. Job 21.30 Pro. 16.4 Acts 3.19 1 Pet. 1.10 Luk. 21.28 Joh. 5.29 Mat. 25.41 Then shall he say Depart c. therefore not before then Mat. 7.23 John 3.5 Except a man be born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdome of heaven compared to Rom. 6.3 4 5. Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death that like as Christ was raised

and actually in time springeth from it or as many graines of wheat are in one graine virtually and perfectly actual in time so in the seed of mankind is whole man potentially and wholly actual in time or all Adams succession which in time are propagated were wholly in him life and limbes or as 't is more common soul and body So that whatsoever in time is actual by procreation it was at first potentially wholly in it's original Further Generatum sequitur naturam generantis he begat a son in his own image Gen. 5.3 is not not onely philosophically but Theologically true Mat. 7.16 Job 4.14 Therefore mortal Adam must beget mortal children in his own likeness soul and body except the soul was no part of his likeness For that which is immortal cannot generatively proceed from that which is mortal as Christ saith that which is born of the flesh is as it self is corruptable mutable flesh John 3.6 so then by this mortal flesh cannot be generated an immortal spirit or soul that can subsist by it self dissolved from the flesh for if it should in that act it should go beyond it self which is impossible and thereby more should be done by man and woman in generation then God did or could do in the creation for he neither did or could create any thing greater purer or more excellent of nature then himself and such as could subsist without him But if this doctrine be true as Woolner in his Original of the soul averreth fleshly man by a fleshly generation or mixture of the seed of both Sexes doth beget or conceive something greater purer and more excellent then himself an immortal substance an Angelical entitie the Soul that can subsist without the flesh by which it is which is as fire without light earth without heaviness grosseness c. should be by which they are and further the Effect to be prior dignitate precedent to the Cause as if a man because a creature should be before his Creator But if it be Replyed that the soul is generated by the soul as the body by the body I answer then there must be He-souls and She-souls for without Sexes is no generation But now to the first sort who say it is by infusion or as the saying is Creando infunditur infundendo creatur To which I Answer that in conception there is corruption or marring according the proverb Corruptio unius est generatio alterius so that if it be by conceiving or creating infused and by infusion concepted or created that is as much to say it is made in the marring and mar'd in the making or infus'd in the marring and mar'd in the infusion whence followeth that it is neither conceived created nor infused neither made nor mar'd but must be if it be no man knows what or how whether an Angel a Beast or a Monster any thing or nothing Riddle me riddle me what 's this a Soul a Soul creando infunditur infundendo creatur Secondly if the soul be a creature infused then Christ did not take the whole man-hood from the seed of the woman but worse then a bare brutish body a dead carcass But Christ was made of the seed of the woman according to the flesh Ram. 1.3 Acts 2.30 and was as we are sin excepted Heb. 14.15 and this our Image he received wholly from the woman Therefore receiving his whole humanity from her the soul can be no infused creature Thirdly That which brake the Serpents head was Christs humanity But the seed of the woman brake the Serpents head Ergo. Fourthly If we consist of soul and body and are not men without both and receive not our souls from him but are dayly created Then Adam is the father of no man 2. Christ cannot be the Son of man and so no Saviour because thereby his manhood constitutive part even that which should make him man could not be by the seed of the woman 3. So a man is as much a father of fleas and lice which receive their matter from him as of his children 4. Whereas God blessed man and bid him as the rest of the creatures in their kinde fill the Earth in his kinde with men then he commanded him to do more then he had given him power for and so to content nature and supply her imbecility to obey is forced to a daily creation 5. Then God finished not the Creation in sixe dayes but rested before he had done creating Fifthly If the soul be infused it must be at the conception or after the conception If at the conception then every abortive conception hath an immortal spirit in it and must rise again If after then there is growth before there is life which is impossible for the soul is made the vegetive as well as the motive sensitive or rational part and if this immortal spirit be something else then we are not conceived perfect men and as we are conceived so are we born trees brutes or I know not what and afterwards are made men if we be men at all and so Infants that die in the wombe or in the birth are little better then trees and worse then beasts Sixthly If the soul be not generated with the body but a creature infused into a dead body for they say the soul is forma formans that giveth life and motion to the body Then it is lawful to be a Nigromancer for Nigromancie is nothing but putting a spirit into a dead body and so it is but an imitation of God and God the onely Nigromancer and all the men in the word but Nigromatnick Apparitions whose spirits when they have done the worke for which they were put into the bodies desert them as other conjured Ghosts do Seventhy It is granted that the body considered meerly sensitive cannot sin and that the body is but an instrument or as the pen in the hand of a Writer to the Soul whereby it acts and moves Therefore if the Soul come immediately from God or there be an immediate worke of his in it's production then of necessity that immortal thing and not our mortal flesh is Author of all sin and it onely prone to all sin and not the flesh no more then a conduit though a meet instrument to convey water is the author or fount of water or prone to spring And so Gods immediate hand is the cause of all sin that man had better been without this soul for it must needs be some damnable wicked spirit or some Devil that God puts in him for such as the fruit is such must the tree be but the fruit is damnably wicked Therefore the Soul must be some damnable wicked thing No marvel then if Reprobates must needs sin and be damned since God infuses such a malignant Soul that counsels them with Jobs wife to curse God and die yea such a one as wholly workes out their condemnation This is as if a man should break his horses legs and then knock

out his brains for halting If it be said the soul comes pure from God and it is the body that corrupteth it I answer that this to excuse God one way makes him like the tyrant Mezentius that bound living men to dead bodyes till the putrefaction and corruption of the stinking corps had killed them Besides the mind may sin without the Action of the body but not the body without the mind for a man may covet in his mind and not act with his body and yet sin but if he do with his body and not consent with his mind he sinneth not as for example a man may accidentally and ignorantly kill a man by a blow which was never intended or aimed at him and yet he not guilty of murther but if he intend it in his mind though he never do it he is guilty Therefore the body may be made sinful by the soul but not the soul by the body Now to the other kinde who say that this supernatural worke by nature is effected by Gods special supernatural assistance operating or applicated to this natural aptitude in whose mutual concurrence this immortal substance is concepted and in conception united to the flesh the whole in the whole and the whole in every part To which I Answer that there is no more special supernatural efficiency from God in mans procreation then in other creatures but that special gift or natural instinct to every kinde of creature given in the Creation to produce it's kinde whether vegetative sensitive or rational Gen. 1.25 1 Cor. 15.38 for the gift or blessing is all one and the same and alike unto all according to their kindes as appeares Gen. 1.22 God blessed the Fowls and Fish saying Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the Seas and let the Fowles multiply in the Earth And vers 28. the self-same he speaks of man and woman And God blessed them and said unto them be fruitful and replenish the earth and by this blessing or Natures general instinct equally unto all men and all other creatures continue their multiplications and procreations So that the Fowles Fish c. have as great and special assistance as man in their conceptions and procreations equally mediate and natural Therefore if by mans conception an Angelical immortal Soul is producted so likewise is there the like in other creatures The result of all which is this that as Fish Birds and Beasts each in their kinde procreate their kinde without any transcendency of nature So man in his kinde begets man corruptable man begets nothing but what is corruptable not halfe mortal halfe immortal halfe Angel halfe man but compleat man totally mortal for through mortal organs immortality cannot be conveyed or therein possibly reside If it be scrupled that this destroyeth the hope of our faith I Answer It doth but remove it from a false principle to a true from a deceitful fancy to an infallible object the Resurrection For though I ascribe nothing actually to nature but corruption yet potentially I ascribe incorruption as to the kernel of an Apple a Tree may not actually yet potentially be ascribed So I grant that nature produceth the Seed to which when she hath done her elementary worke even all that she can do and in all things transient finished her course even from that corrupted seed Christ supernaturally raiseth an incorruptable body 1 Cor. 15.36 Thou foole that which thou sowest is not quickned except it die it is sowen in corruption it is raised in incorruption it is sowen a natural body it is raised a spiritual body Therefore nothing of man can be immortal but what first hath seen corruption So that if that which is made the better and most excellent part of Man without which he is NO MAN as is held titled the Soul shall not see corruption it shall not participate of the immortality purchased by Christ but must needs perish except there be Ens extra Deum as that strange invented Entitie must needs be And so consequently NO MAN shall be saved And as before it incur'd this Absurditie that the Souls of the Damned shall not perish but stand as well as the Stative Angels So by this the Souls both of the righteous and wicked shall for ever cease and never be immortalized at the Resurrection And thence the denyal both of Resurrection Condemnation and Salvation Heaven and Hell God and Christ is inavoydable After rusheth in the Epicurean Blasphemy Let us eate and drinke for to morrow we dy And so so many bellyes so many Gods and no other It is Objected That the rareness of conception argues a supernatural immediate assistance essential without which the soul cannot be Answ That commeth by a natural defect and not by with-holding of Gods immediate hand else he should have a special and immediate hand in Adultery And so Whoremongers and Adulterers set God a worke to create Souls for their Bastards which is to make God a slave to their lusts Further it is Objected That God hath from eternitie decreed concerning man above all creatures both who should come into the world and at what time Therefore accordingly he must have a worke in mans conception above other creatures Answ No such thing followeth for time and number may be appointed and yet the due course of nature proceed as well without as with an immediate assistance towards man in his kinde as in Beasts in their kinde Moreover Woolner in his Treatise on the Soul pag. 115. saith That the more spiritual parts and chiefly the Soul is but partly mediately partly immediately conceived at the first instant or union of the seed of both Sexes For by it pag. 127. he saith the corporeal parts are prepared and perfected Therefore it must of necessity be at the first instant or else no conception And pag. 129. That all Souls as well of Beasts as of men are essentially as perfect at the first instant of conception as ever afterwards And pag. 97. he saith The Soul can live without the body and cannot be corrupted by it Answ That then it followeth If a woman miscarry immediately after that very instant that the Soul of that Effluction or unshapen deformed peece of congealed blood being immortal must needs continue its immortality and that Effluction as well as perfect bodyes shall be raised again for if degrees of corporal perfection hinder then those that are born imperfect as without legges armes or hands or any other member as divers are they shall never be raised again and so out of the compass of Christs death and though it should be granted that Christs death is denyed an Embryo yet that souls immortality cannot be nullified for immortality once begun must never have an end and he saith it cannot suffer with the flesh therefore if not with the whole mass of mans corpulency grown to it's full perfection much less with an Embryo that is ten times less imperfect and invalid for he saith it is as