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p._n concupiscence_n against_o which_o the_o spirit_n lust_v be_v sin_n 3_o because_o in_o it_o there_o be_v disobedience_n against_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o it_o be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n because_o it_o befall_v man_n for_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o disobedience_n and_o it_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o sin_n speaker_n d._n b._n p._n but_o s._n augustine_n say_v that_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n because_o in_o it_o there_o be_v 3._o disobedience_n against_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o mind_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o more_o than_o twenty_o place_n of_o his_o work_n teach_v express_o that_o concupiscence_n be_v no_o sin_n if_o sin_n be_v take_v proper_o wherefore_o when_o he_o once_o call_v it_o sin_n he_o take_v sin_n large_o as_o it_o comprehend_v not_o only_o all_o sin_n but_o also_o all_o motion_n and_o intiâ—ements_n to_o sin_n in_o which_o sense_n concupiscence_n may_v be_v term_v sin_n but_o be_v so_o call_v very_o seldom_o of_o s._n 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