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A34012 Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib. Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P. 1675 (1675) Wing C5389; ESTC R5065 231,046 593

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appear_v thus_o rodon_n in_o every_o true_a sacrifice_n the_o thing_n sacrifice_v must_v be_v utter_o destroy_v that_o be_v it_o must_v be_v so_o change_v that_o it_o must_v cease_v to_o be_v what_o it_o be_v before_o as_o bellarmine_n say_v in_o express_a term_n in_o the_o place_n above-cited_n but_o in_o the_o pretend_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n christ_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o destroy_v for_o jesus_n christ_n die_v no_o more_o rom._n 6._o therefore_o in_o the_o pretend_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o thing_n sacrifice_v answ._n in_o every_o sacrifice_n the_o thing_n sacrifice_v must_v be_v destroy_v that_o be_v it_o must_v be_v so_o change_v that_o it_o must_v cease_v to_o be_v what_o it_o be_v bofore_o if_o by_o cease_v to_o be_v what_o it_o be_v before_o he_o intend_v cease_v to_o be_v in_o the_o manner_n as_o it_o be_v before_o i_o confess_v the_o major_a if_o by_o cease_v to_o be_v etc._n etc._n he_o intend_v 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