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A85386 Calumny arraign'd and cast. Or A briefe answer to some extravagant and rank passages, lately fallen from the pen of William Prynne, Esquire, in a late discourse, entituled, Truth triumphing over falshood, &c. against Mr John Goodwin, Minister of the Gospel. Wherein the loyall, unfeigned and unstained affection of the said John Goodwin to the Parliament, and civill magistracie, is irrefragably and fully vindicated and asserted against those broad and unchristian imputations, most untruly suggested in the said discourse against him. By the said John Goodvvin. Licensed entered and printed according to order. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1645 (1645) Wing G1153; Thomason E26_18; ESTC R12923 51,593 64

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in these are the most competent Judges from amongst men in all cases and questions about what is sinfull and what not And whether meere Lawyers or meere Divines may with more reason be presum'd to be men of this interest let either Lawyers themselves or Divines or who ever will judge I had not known sinne saith the Apostle a but by the Law He speaks of the Law of God not of any law of men And another Apostle to like purpose Whosoever committeth sinne transgresseth also the Law for sinne is the transgression of the Law b speaking as the other did onely of the Law of God Now howsoever Mr. Prynnes meer Divines cannot reasonably bee supposed to have spent so much of their time in traversing and reading over the ancient Records of Parliamentary transactions as Lawyers have nor consequently to be so able or ready as they to tell Stories in this kind of what Parliaments formerly have done yet when any case of conscience or question ariseth about such and such customes or passages in Parliaments call them Rights Privileges or what you will whether they were lawfull in point of conscience and justifiable in the sight of God or no the meere Lawyer with his bookes and records must stand by as having neither part nor fellowship in this Judicature the meere Divine is the only competent Judge in the case yea and this is confirmed by Parliaments themselves who have decreed that in some Courts and Cases Clergy-men as some call them should fit and was the custome till very lately in London it selfe the Bishop usually and by right sitting at the Sessions of life and death yea and in case of life if the Clergyman saith Legit ut Clericus the Law saves the man And if Mr. Prynne conceives that all customes or Presidents of Parliaments will make Privileges of Parliament I conceive the present Parliament will abhorre his conception many of them being only matter of sorrow shame and caution not of Privilege or example So then to deale clearly and unpartially between Lawyers and Divines touching their respective abilities and interests for discerning and judging of the Customes Rights and Privileges so called of Parliaments The Lawyers interest and facultie if he be a Master in his profession as such I mean as a meere Lawyer is to collect draw together and present to view all and all manner of Parliamentary transactions passages statutes customes presidents c. good and bad one with another without distinction out of their respective Records but the interest and faculty of the Divine if he be a man worthy his profession is to survey this collection presented unto him to consider whether there be nothing in them contrary to the will and mind of God declared in his Word which contrariety dissolves the authority and interest of any Statute Custome President whatsoever and so to separate the vile from the pretious a that which hath a consistence with the word of God from that which opposeth and contradicteth it The entrie series or story of Parliamentary passages is like the Polypus head wherein there are observed to bee {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} many good things and many bad the Statutes of Moses and the Statutes of Omri the manner of the house of David and the manner of the house of Ahab are intermixed and wrapped up together there Now alas with the meere Lawyer I speak of him as such and not as Christian or godly all is fish that comes to net all this Congregation is holy even every one of them b every Statute without exception if unrepeal'd on earth though nullified in heaven before it was made is still valid and good in Law every custome without difference an undoubted privilege of Parliament every passage a sufficient president for after-imitation the Statutes of Omri as good for his turn and in his eye as the Statutes of Moses the manner of the house of Ahab as laudable as the manner of the house of David or of the house of God himselfe as is the good so is the bad to him the Statute that curseth as that which blesseth a Land All this is evident from that voluminous coacervation of old matters passages presidents c. by Mr. Prynne himselfe in the former part of this discourse many of them as himselfe intimates c fetch'd out of the darkest times of Popery and highest ruff of Pope of Prelates and yet thinkes that these are enough to evict and convince me and all the world besides that I have not only violated but denied oppugned the privileges of Parliament in Ecclesiasticall affairs d In the case last presented except the Divine shall come with his fire from heaven to separate and purge the Tinne from the Silver and the Drosse from the Gold and be as the mouth of the Lord to take away the vile from the pretious a that enmity unto God and that unrighteousnesse which cleaveth and is like to cleave notwithstanding all that the meere Lawyer is able to doe by way of reliefe unto many the Lawes and Statutes of a State or Kingdome is like to be first an heavie scourge and rods of Scorpions for the punishment of the State and in fine the utter ruine and destruction of it {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} saith the Apostle b i. the wisdome of the flesh is death The reason whereof he gives in the next verse which is this because the wisdome of the flesh is enmity against God So that wheresoever there is any enmity against God especially if it utters it selfe in any the consultations acts or results of the wisdom of the flesh it disposeth the subject wherein it is sound whether it be Person Family State or Kingdome unto death And whether this enmity against God which wee speake of sound in some of our lawes statutes yet unrepeal'd if not in more then is generally observed and knowne hath not made God an enemy unto us and strengthened the arm of his displeasure and indignation against us I leave to Divines of sound judgement and conscience to consider yea and to such Lawyers who have sanctified their profession with the sound knowledge of the word of God and prayer By what hath been argued in this last passage evident it is that the skill faculty and interest of the Divine yea of the meere Divine to discerne and judge of the customes rights privileges of Parliament is farre more usefull and necessary then that of the meere Lawyer The reason is plaine because there is no manner of doubt or question to be made but that whatsoever is not sinfull prohibited by the word of God for them to doe is an undoubted privilege of Parliament without the authority or contribution of former passages or records and on the contrary whatsoever is sinfull and displeasing unto God can never make Privilege as hath been already argued and proved Now then the faculty or skill of the