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A40738 The worlds honour detected, and, for the unprofitableness thereof, rejected, and the honour which comes from God alone, asserted, and reduced to practice, or, Some reasons why the people of God called Quakers, do deny the accustomary honour and salutations of the world ... by a friend to truth, who is no respector or regarder of persons, called a Quaker, B.F. Furly, Benjamin, 1636-1714. 1663 (1663) Wing F2541; ESTC R8091 54,243 70

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thy Hat in thy hand I am more noble more honourable more worshipful than thou This their practice plainly speaks to every discerning eye though many with their tongues may dissemble the contrary But Friends this was honestly and plainly reproved by a good man who had been educated in good manners and wanted for no Tutors to teach him any this good old Author named Iames plainly calls this matter committing sin and transgression of the Law in the 2d chapter of his Letter written to the scattered Tribes and the 9th verse as it is now divided Now blame us not for rather adhering to Antiquity in this case than to Novelty rather to the good manners of Christ and his Apostles and Followers than to the evil manners of men falsly called good Besides it is a very great mistake for the Rich have as much need of the Mean and Needy as the Needy have of them else the Great man must be his own servant and 't were well he could so be his own Taylor Weaver Ploughman and what not Thus hath the all-wise God ordered it that men stand in need of each others aid and assistance that so they may not despise contemn trample upon and scorn each other as it nevertheless often happeneth not for want of stupid ignorance For the Rich as is said do as much or more stand in need of the Poor as they of the Rich and a poor man that is faithful in all his actions is as honourable worthy of as much honour love and esteem both before God and man as the greatest Peer in a Nation yea the Lord hath more regard unto and honour for such a mean faithful upright-hearted Gentle minded man indeed than for a high proud false angry imperious tyrannical perverse-minded Gentleman falsly so called What difference is there betwixt the person of the Rich and of the Poor the person of Caesar and Lazarus the beggar hath not the Eternal Being made all men of one blood from the King upon the Throne to the Beggar upon the Dunghil He hath not made such a difference as to the persons as that he should bring forth the one person to honour serve and worship the other but all to worship and honour him And if he hath given to any or they have fraudulently gotten to themselves a little more wealth or a larger portion of this worlds goods than others they must even thereof render him an account for the Earth is the Lords and the fulness thereof And if any one man be invested with more Power Authority or preferred to higher Offices than another it is not of nor for himself but of and from the Lord for preferment cometh neither from the East nor from the West nor from the South but God is Judge to whom he must even of it also give an account as a servant according to the flesh as well as another man and to him as a person according to the flesh belongs no more honour than to another man but Subjection and Obedience is to the Power in the Office and what doth this concern proud flesh or the person of any man we regard no mans person And assuredly that is the pride of flesh which the Lord will stain which saith I am a Magistrate in Power in Authority in God's stead therefore I must I will be honoured in my Person for what is this but to assume the honour of God to self Consider and beware for thou art but a Steward whatever thou art and the Lord is Judge who putteth down one and setteth up another as it pleaseth him and rewardeth every one according to his deeds Obj. To respect Persons say some is sin James testifies that clearly enough but we respect or honour every body we do it to all alike Poor as well as Rich and then there is no respect of persons Answ. Ye may imagine so but it is not truly so ye do put a difference for which of you will keep a stir in the streets to give a mean man or woman the wall or upper-hand as it is accounted amongst you or make a bussle to put them up to the upper end of the Table as you distinguish it as ye do many times even to loathing to the Rich but your Reason is ready It doth not so well become them as the Rich. And so Behold here ye mannerly Christians ye Professing People the use and service of your decent good manners so called to exalt the person of the Rich-man though proud and abase the person of the Mean-man though humble which is quite contrary to the Lord who resisteth and abaseth the Proud and sheweth favour and giveth honour to the Humble and therefore it 's an abomination to the righteous impartial God Nor are they to the Rich any otherwayes serviceable than a fifth Wheel to a Waggon to hurry them headlong to destruction raising and strengthening the spirit of pride in them which is ready enough to shew and put forth it self although it should have no such excitations and provocations from without by which the love and lust after such things is fed and that mind satisfied which delighteth in them Now this mind cannot we feed satisfie or please for as he that is in the World or in the flesh cannot please God so they that are in God and do walk in his Light and Spirit by which the World and spirit thereof is crucified in and to them cannot please the World nor that carnal mind which is enmity to God and therefore cannot own these things Object Yea but some there are and many too that take no delight in these things that seek them not desire them not regard value them not and are dead to them and why can you not do it to them what danger is therein To others it 's true it may as you say do them more hurt then good yea say some If we knew such as expect it look for it seek it thirst and hunt after it we could not give it to such our selves Answ. 'T were well such as speak on this wise were indeed come so far so said and so done were so far well But as for us we cannot do it to them because it can do them no good none at all but may do others harm as is granted Now why I should be urged to do that which can do no man good but may do many yea most men harm I know not nor can see any reason for it But yea even to such there is a danger also for although some may at present stand in such a condition and retain their integrity therein yet it is said To him that thinketh he standeth let him tak● heed lest he fall there are other temptations enough within and without though no man should meet with this and who is certain that he shall stand in the day of Tryal yea in the least Tryal Did not Adam soon fall from his innocency by beholding and desiring a thing pleasant to the
Rulers and themselves as gracious and good Subjects very tender of and zealous for their Honour c. falsly belying us as not owning Magistrates and so not fit to be tolerated of whom say say the Apostles Peter and Iude did plainly testifie saying These filthy Dreamers defile the flesh despise Dominion and speak evil of Dignities and by Dominion said one to me is here to be understood the Power or Authority and by Dignities the Titles of Magistrates c. Poor carnal men But do we so do we despise these it seems then you do not but do hunt thirst and lust after both and would fain have both at your will that so you might once satiate the blood-thirsty spirit which so lusteth in you after the blood of the Saints and thereby you would propagate your carnal formal Faith and Religion in the rooting out of others But stay a little Friends and here our Defence before we be condemned We say though after outward Power Authority Rule Government or Dominion we seek not nor do desire it yet we despise it not but do own it in its place and do submit unto it for peace and conscience sake as Christ who was above all outward Rule also did The like for Titles as being distinctions of several Offices as names are of divers persons we both own and use them yet Titles●here ●here are flattering and blasphemous in which the Honour of God is attributed to man whose breath is in his nostrils and these we freely confess we own not and do trample upon that deceitfull mind from whence they came and whether we be the men there mentioned guilty of despising that Dominion and those Dignities which the Apostles there spake of or not we shall put to the issue of a tryal and the words of Christ we own and stan● to where he saith Beware of false Prophets and Seducers by their fruits you shall know them and the words of the Apostles shall serve as a Hue and Cry descrying the marks and tokens or fruits by which these filthy dreamers and ungodly men may be known and discovered that so all such persons whosoever they be in whom all or most or any of these marks are to be found may be deemed held adjudged and apprehended to be those Deceivers what can ye desire more First then saith Iude They speak evil of those things which they know not Is not this common among your selves do ye not profess that you know nothing of Revelations from God in these dayes that you have no manifestation nor discoveries from God that ye know not the immediate teachings and inspirations of God And if any do witness the Word of God abiding in them the essential and eternal Word which lives and abides for ever in which all the Mysteries of God and Christ and eternal Life are hid and by which all that hath hitherto been made manifest unto the Patriarchs Moses the Prophets and Apostles or any other the sons of men in all Ages from the least to the greatest Manifestation that ever was hath been revealed and in which much more lyeth hid which shall be revealed and made manifest in the Sons of God in these latter dayes If any I say do witness this and testifie of the Operations Manifestations Revelations and Discoveries thereof in and unto them do ye not cry against it as delusion and fancy and against them as deluded Phanaticks Secondly saith Iude but what they know naturally as brute beasts in that they corrupt themselves Is not this necessarily the condition of all such Teachers as do deny this Word to abide in them and know not the Revelation thereof and so consequently deny Christ who is this Word to be come in the flesh or to dwell in their flesh having nothing but the Scripture and the Writings of men whereby to come to the knowledge of God For not having this Eternal Word which is CHRIST the Light and Life abiding in you what have you else that is divine or what can you have more than that which is natural and whence comes then all your knowledge of God which you profess all your Religion Faith Hope c. but by getting the natural notion of them into your natural understanding comprehension or memory by natural reading hearing and observation and what that is more than to know things naturally as brute beasts do by that which is natural to them And hence it is that all your Learning Languages Wisdom Knowledge and Religion being but natural at the best standing in and flowing from the first nature which neither doth nor can know see comprehend nor understand God nor the things of the Spirit of God it is not able to change purifie nor cleanse your hearts and that which is able so to do and should so do not knowing it ye deny it disown it reject it speak evil of it and then cry out We cannot be delivered from the body of sin and corruption so long as we live Oh corrupt men and more corrupt faith But this is one sign more that ye are the men there declared of for saith Peter of them They cannot cease to sin and this is your very profession you bear this mark in your forehead with open brazen face yea boasting in it as a badge of Orthodox Christians counting all others Heterodox Hereticks that believe a finishing of transgression and ending of sin and witness the bringing in and possession of everlasting Righteousness on this side the grave Thirdly saith Iude They have gone in the way of Cain c. The way of Cain what way was that Answ. to hate and murder his Brother for Religion or about the Service and Worship of God Now who are they that have gone in this way for Ages past and in our time more than the Clergie or Publick Teachers of the Nations whether under the Popish Prelatick Presbyterian and Independent form Search the Records and see who have stirred up Persecution about Religion and cryed out to have Prisons filled and Meetings yea Countries also by banishments emptied Ye or We Do we need proof or compurgations can any be so void of shames as to demand it much less to deny the thing that is so palpably evident Yet hereby I accuse none that in the presence of the Lord is clear and so can in truth speak it Fourthly They say both They ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward having saith Peter forsaken the Right way mark that and have their hearts exercised with covetous practices and so shal through covetousness with feigned words pretending the Honour and Glory of God feeding the Flock Salvation of Souls c. with these fair pretences they shal make merchandize of the people saith he whose judgment as it then lingred not so it is now come and coming upon you and your torment began even the day dawned upon you that you can no longer lye and sleep at rest upon your beds of ease Need I to