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A70617 An uncovering of mysterious deceits by which many are kept from repentance and entring the doore of life in a reply to M. Garners opposition of truth stiled Unvailing of mysteries, with addition of A reply to Mr. Thomas Whitfield his treatise with a three-fold title / by Thomas Moore. Moore, Thomas, Senior. 1647 (1647) Wing M2595; ESTC R30527 138,859 193

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not be as their Fathers A stubborn and rebellious generation c. Now if any with a brazen face would say Might here had the force of an absolute certainty the sequele in both places will prove him false for they did not all so but to come to the very Text thus by him abused Joh. 3 17. For God sent not his Sonne into the world to condemne the world but that the world through him might be saved Here if Might have the force of an absolute certainty the world shall certainly be eternally saved or otherwise then in and by himselfe ransomed and preserved and means used that they might repent beleeve and so be saved How is that true our Saviour saith of the same world distributed into parts verse 18. He that beleeveth on him is not condemned but he that beleeveth not is condemned already c. vers 19 36. Where were Mr. Knowles and Mr. Garners eyes that durst presume to force such a contradictory sonse on this place But let us see this very word Might in this Evangelist and and take the interpretation from our Saviours own mouth Joh. 5 32 33 34 There is another that beareth witnesse of mee c. now did not John beare witnesse of the light that all men through him might beleeve Joh. 1.7 And are not here many of them to whom he did beare witnesse that did not beleeve Besides our Saviour in this John 5 farther instiucting and teaching these Jewes Doth he not say expressely vers 34. These things I say that Jee might be saved behold the same word that is in Iohn 3.17 and yet doth he not say to the same Jewes Ioh. 5.40 Yee will not come to me that yee might have life Oh how contrary is the mind and exposition of Christ to the mind and exposition of Mr. Garner whose corrupt sense is of ill consequence viz. 8. The words Gave Give Send Sent Joh. 3.16 17. we are every where in Scripture speaking of this businesse saith he pag. 79. To understand therein the everlasting blessednesse and salvation of those for whom God Gave Sent c. This is so contrary to Scripture and truth that nothing need be said thereof the next verses 18 19.36 confuting it 1 Cor. 6.8 Mark 12 2.8 and Joh. 6.32 My Father giveth you the true bread from heaven And what was this lesse then that John 3.16 17. and yet they mist that everlasting blessednesse c. Iohn 6.66 ☞ 1. 9. The words Taketh away in Joh. 1.29 Taketh away the sinne of the world Here and else-where he saith the words Taketh away is Hee certainly fully freely powerfully and for ever taketh them away and this in some sense might stand but he stops not here but proceedeth and saith it signifieth a perfect powerfull absolute and compleat removeall and that for ever yea of the dominion lordship merit wages power and strength of sinne so as the one or the other shall never returne any more yea so as makes to the perfection and salvation of those from whom hee taketh them away c. pages 66 67 68. Are not here glorious and high words Are his own sinnes thus taken away thinke you what ever they may be hereafter Is he already so much freer then the Apostles were in their times Ro. 7.15.24 and 8.1 2 23. Jam. 4. ● 1 Joh. 1 7 8 9. But let the businesse be weighed in the Ballance of the Sanctuary Taketh away both in Scripture and common use of speech may be truly and rightly understood 1. Of one that hath taken sinne out of the way 2. Of one that doth it that is ordained to and able for it and will do it in all them that come to him 3. Of one that hath done it in all that have come in to him And in all these senses it is meant of Jesus Christ First For Taking out of the way We have two things to note how sinne lyeth in the way between God and men to make a separation and so to stop the passages and make it impassible either for the mercies of God to bee extended to men or for mens approach to God And these are 1. That great offence of our first Father Adam by which sinne entred into the world and death by sin so as all have sinned and in their receiving of their being from him are guilty of and defiled with and under the power of sin and so subject to Law and Death Rom. 5.12.18 19 And the truth of God necessitates his Death and his Justice necessitates his suffering the curse and till both bee done and overcome there can no mercy bee shewne to men nor is there any passage open for their approach to God The Winter abides for impassibility of the way Heb. 9.22 Now Jesus Christ as a publike man in the nature and stead of all being manifested to take away our sins and being made a curse for us and in rising Just and a Conquerour offering himselfe a sacrifice to God hath done this work fulfilled truth and satisfie Justice and so mercy and truth meet and truth is sprung out of the earth and hee hath abolished death removed out of the way that which was contrary to us opened a gate to life procured mercy to be shewed us so as the Winter is past the way passible and righteousnesse flows down from heaven 1 Joh. 3.5.6 Psal 85.10.11 2 Tim. 1.9 Cant. 2.11 Psal 136. and 145. So far are all men indebted to Jesus Christ for so taking sn out of the way that mercies are shewne them through him and a gate opened that they might enter Psal 75.3 Rom. 14.9 which might move to submit to him Though Mr. Garner by denying this teach the greatest part of men to deny the Lord that bought them 2. This Doore opened through Christ and these mercies extended testifying of him and calling to him Act. 14 17. and 17.24.28 Rom. 2.4 God being well pleased in his Son and delighting in him lookes downe from heaven upon the sons of men to see if there bee any that by all this his goodnesse extended will understand and seeke after him but alas men comming to understanding and the light of his mercies shining on them they yet abide in darknesse impenitencie and unbeliefe hardning their hearts against his mercies c. Psal 14. and 53. with Rom. 3 10.19 And this most properly is called The sinne of the world John 1.4 5-10 11. 1 Joh. 5.19 And its terrible to persist therein Psal 68.18.21 For this provokes more highly then the former so as from the love God beares to his Son it would stop all continuance of mercies and meanes and cause the shutting of the doore to repentance and life but that even this Jesus against whom they so sin doth mediate for them by vertue of his sacrifice and takes this sin also out of the way that hee procures lengthening the dayes of his patience and continuace of mercies and meanes with some strife of spirit to them 1 Tim.
nature and will and draw him God ward and for this Jesus Christ hath ascended to heaven and received spirit in the man to send forth even to the rebellious that the Lord God might dwell among them which he also doth send forth Psal 68 18. And so as in my Treatises may be seene I understand Jesus Christ makes men saveable 1. In himselfe as he is the second man the last Adam that stood in the place and undertook for the first publique man for him and all that were in him having taken the same nature and in it dyed fure for the first Adams sin or else for no mans sin and if for his sin then for all mens sin or else his sin was not al mens sin and he is in that nature risen just and hath offered up himselfe a Sacrifice for man and is now in mans nature glorified so that in him is peace righteousnesse c. So as in him as the publique man the nature of all mankind is as fully yea more abundantly saved restored and enriched with glorious salvation then it was fallen in the first Adam and this is as really in him for mankind as the fall and death of the former was 2. This salvation and life in Jesus the second publique man is as vertuous and more vertuous and powerfull in him and fuller of efficacie to make all that by grace come in to him like himselfe then the sin and death of the former to make those that by propagation come forth from him like him And both these are evident Rom. 5.12.14.18 19. 1 Cor. 15.45 46 47. 2 Cor. 3.18 And this is great salvation actuall salvation in Christ for men before it be preached or hee set forth as the propitiation Rom. 3.24 25. Heb. 2 2-4 3. He by vertue of this hee hath done and is become with God for men is now the Mediator between God and men and so procureth of God for men and extendeth towards them the preservation of the creatures for their use and space of repentance Psal 75.3 2 Pet. 3 9. which the Apostle cals Salvation and wills us so to account it 2 Pet. 3.15 The Dispensation of meanes and mercies as testimonies of his goodnesse Acts 14.17 which the Apostle saith is to lead to repentance and seeking the Lord Act. 17.26 27.30 31. Rom. 2.4 And with these means at some seasons some strift and motions of his Spirit to reprove c. Gen. 6 3. Prov. 12.23.24 And this with so much efficacy that at some or other enlightens every one in some measure that commeth into the world that was made by him Iohn 1.9.10 And by his workes manifesteth some truth in men Rom. 1.18 19. and so striveth with them But all this more openly and abundantly where he sends the Gospell which is a preaching of great salvation Heb. 2 3. wherein also is some presence of Christ by his Spirit to discover witnesse reprove draw to and apply salvation Though many breake all bands Joh. 15.26 27. 16. Mat. 28.20 Hosea 11.3 4 7. And this that they might beleeve Joh. 1 7 and be saved Joh. 5.34 And this with so much prevailency that he bringeth them in some measure to see and heare and toucheth their hearts Though divers like not the light and so willingly close their eyes and eares and harden their hearts Joh. 3.19 20 21. Act. 28.27 And all this is actuall salvation and extended that men might come in to him and partake of eternall 4. He hath eternall life and salvation to bestow on every one of them that in these his drawings come into him Joh. 17.3 Heb. 5 9. And all this was in and by Christ from the first beginning of his undertaking with God as is fore-shewne though since his comming in the flesh more manifest and in the fruits more abundant And this is meant by his making all men saveable so as those empty and undivine reasons of A purchasing only a possibility of salvation Of the ineffectualnesse of Christ his death before his acting it Of restraining the word Death to the act of his dying Of redeeming God of making salvation actuall by faith faith being neither Discoverer nor Applyer but only the receiver of what he by Spirit in the means discovers and applyes Of urging that if a potentiall wrought that should be the phrase Then no actuall as If he the God of the Valleys then not of the Mountaines are of no force and beseemed Lay-preachers better then Mr. T. W. As for the other objections of his owne framing I may leave them to his owne Answering though he might be bold There was a doore before so opened as 2 Tim. 1.10 as there was a well before Hagar saw it Genes 21.19 else not only some but all both Jewes and Gentiles before Christ came in the flesh are perished for ever But I may not slip over his Answer of his owne framed objection That if Christ Dyed not for all they want a foundation of faith To which he replyeth No. For the foundation of both our faith and obedience is not the secret but the revealed will of God which enjoynes every man to beleeve on him whom the Father hath sent c. Surely here he hath said something if he would either stand by it or make any thing of it But according to his direction wee must search to that in another place and here and there I will make the best of it that I can 1. As God is one so his will and though there be much more secret then is yet revealed yet hath he not in his word revealed any one thing for men to believe as his mind that is contrary to his will that is yet secret his sayings are all true certain c. Prov. 8.6 9. ●2 20 21. what an intimation of a heavy charge is this to the sayings of the God of truth 2. A Minister of the Gospell or a Beleever ought to meddle no farther about the will of God concerning any thing in their declaration then what by word or workes he hath revealed Deut. 29.29 to which those who are submitted when God saith his Sonne dyed for all will not conceit another secret meaning and use reasons to scare men from beliefe of his testimony 3. The foundation of Repentance faith and new obedience is not the injunction to beleeve c. But that which is to be beleeved even Jesus Christ as he is set forth in the Gospell Isay 28.16 Acts 4.10 11 12. 1 Cor. 3.11 And for whom there is not the Christ that hath dyed for their sinnes and rose for their justification there is no foundation for repentance or faith nor is there any injunction for or liberty to or hope in it for any man to repent or beleeve or to looke to Christ for salvation if where Gospell comes they doe not first beleeve that Christ dyed for their sinnes and rose for their justification 1 Cor. 15.1 4 17. so that in this grant Mr. T.W.
this Scripture in it self then mark his causion and being wrightly understood is most holy spirituall and precious but having so said he will give you a reason why they cannot be true as they are spoken then be proceeds to wrest and gl●s●e them as if in themselves full of equivocation and absurdities but in his glosse which he cals the mind of God page 165. line last there is a precious truth thus dealing with the Scripture as if he were expounding and applying suffer the rudenesse of this expression Jsops fables for a wise man and a friend would hardly interpret the serious sayings of a wise prudent judicious and faithfull man so as he doth the words of the Holy Ghost and if this appear so is it not a degree of their sinne that crowned him with Thornes and then bowed the knee said hai King of the Jewes but spit upon him smote him also Mat. 27.29 30 though mockingly they adored him in the garments they had put upon him yet they led him in his own garments to be crucified verse 31. and what is it lesse to magnifie his sayings adorned with our glosses and senses framed for and put on them but to lead them in their own sense the sense which the words themselves import and wherewith they are naturally cloathed to be crucified and made to appear as vile as is in the drift of the greatest part of Mr. Garners discourse But I will note here only 2 Peter 2.1 and judge 2 Peter 2.1 There were false Prophets among the people even as there shall be false Teachers among you who privily shall bring in damnable heresies even denying the Lord that bought them and bring upon themselves swift destruction Are these the words of man or God Did Peter speak or write them according to his own imagination conception and supposall in a charitable judgement or did he speak and write them according to the inspiration and motion of the Holy Ghost If wee take them the former way wee make them the words of a man that may be failing and need helpe if wee take them the latter way as they are indeed verrily to be taken 1 Cor. 2.13 2 Tim. 3.16 2 Pet. 3.2 then wee take them as they are indeed the words of God and so full of truth and certainty and opperation in them that beleeve and so of themselves if they may be beleeved they doe instruct us in divers things 1 About the true Prophets and the false in former times in this word But there were false Prophets the true Prophets did not study or invent that which they prophesied nor speak or write by their own will but they waited attended diligently what the spirit did signifie and so speake and write as they were inspired moved by the holy Ghost 1 Pet. 1.11 12. 2 Pet. 1.20 21. and so the Apostles 1 Cor. 2.2 13. 2 Pet. 1.18 2 Tim. 3.16 But the false Prophets lifted up their own understandings and exercised their own reasons and finding as they conceived absurdities and impossibilities in what the true Prophets by inspiration had said they according to their conceptions vented their own dreames Jer. 23.26 27.30 32. 2. About the Teachers in times since the Apostles the true Teachers take heed to the words and sayings of the Gospel uttered by the Prophets Apostles 2 Pet. 1.19 2 9 Gal. 1 8 9. Ephes 2.20 and so speak according to light and grace received and faith given Rom. 12.3 even that Gospell and those words faithfully without vailing wresting or corrupting it 2 Cor. 2.17 3 12 13. 4 1 2. Tit. 1.7 8. But the false Teachers lifting up their own understandings conceit impossibilities follies absurdities in words sayings yet pretending to teach them do vaile corrupt and glosse them make them appear right to maintain that which they hold forth to 2 Cor. 2.17 and 11.3 4. 3. The doctrine that these false teachers bring is full of heresies oppinions swarving from and contrary to the truth and sayings of the Gospell Gal. 1.6 8. 4. The manner how they bring in these heresies and that is not by an open and plain rejection of the Scripture but privily as the false prophets of old came pretending the name of the Lord and thus saith the Lord so to steal away the word of the Lord from the people Jer. 23. and 29. so they pretend the words and sayings and spirit of the Apostles 2 Thes 2.2 and then pervert and wrest and mangle those words and colour them with their glosses that so they may steale the plain sayings of Christ and the sense his words import from their hearers and fasten on them their own opinions and glosses 2 Cor. 11.3 4 15. Gal. 1.7 5. Both the worke of these false teachers in venting their heresies and also the event of these heresies received which is twofold even 1. Denying the Lord that bought them here is the greatnesse of the evill a fearfull sinne to deny his right of Lordship that had so dearly purchased it Rom. 14.9 12. to deny the goodnesse of his Lordship that had brought them out of the darknesse of this world into so much light and fellowship with his people John 3.19 to deny him the truth goodnesse and righteousnesse of his sayings Ier. 8.9 to deny the motions and teachings of his spirit and grace vouchsafed Rom. 2.4 Acts 7. What so great so good a Lord that hath so bought and loved them to be adversaries to him and refuse to have him raigne over them and to reward him evill for good and hatred for his love this is marked out for the inexcusable abomminable great and fearfull sinne indeed to which is threatned the grievious curse Psal 109.2 3 4 5 to 20. Luke 19.27 2. And bring upon themselves swift destruction Is not this the just punishment of so great a sinne and are not they said by this their sinne to bring it yea to bring it swiftly upon themselves and heavy is the prophecie to some that many follow their pernicious waies by whom the way of truth is evill spoken of now say did not the Holy Ghost know whether they were bought or not and whether Christ by vertue of that purchase was their right and lawfull Lord or no and whether these did deny him or no Or where will Mr. Garner find the deceite to make it but a seeming was it in them did they but seeme to deny or was it in the Lord that he had but seemingly bought them in both is the voice of Mr. Garners writing they were not bought saith he in truth and really as though it were indeed so pa. 162. they did but deny him he saith in point of profession they did but professe themselves to be bought page 158. to 165. so that in their continuance in their profession they it seems by him thought themselves bought but then they were in an error for they were never so much beholding to him and
Death in dying to Dye in the very day he should eat thereof given to this man was given to all men in this man And this publique man eating of the fruit of the forbidden tree he sinned and so lost the Image of God out of his heart and fell under the guilt and power of sin and so under the power of the Law and of death c. And what he did all men did in him so as in him all men sinned and fell Rom. 5.12 And the Almighty convicting him of sin convicted all men of sin so that by this one offence or the offence of this one unto all men to condemnation that is on all men in a publique man yet not at the first on them as individuals and particulars yet so as all the individuals when ever they come forth by propogation from him as they are of him in that Nature they partake of and are under the guilt and partake of the same misery in bondage to law sin and death Rom. 5.19 Ephes 2.1 2 3. So that by reason of the sentence gone forth from the Almighty Genes 2.17 more unalterable then that of the Medes and Persians Hest 3 8 Truth and Justice required a present imposing of the execution of that Death and curse which is the first Death according to the just judgement of God without a mediator and that all men must have perished in if God had not found out a remedie for without sheading blood no Remission Heb. 9.22 But now this I beleeve that as God in his purpose of making man did see that man would fall So in his purpose and Councell he provided the remedy in his Son before the world was 1 Pet. 1.20 And presently upon the fall in the very same moment this businesse was done and acted in respect of agreement conceipt Tender and acceptation betweene God and Christ the Sonne of God to take into union of Person the nature of man to be made flesh under the Law and beare the imputation of sin and so to dye and rise and offer sacrifice for man which God accepted and so filled him in the nature of man with all fulnesse of grace and truth so that here is a propitiation life from the dead and a new creation in And a new heaven and earth for this second Man And spirit to quicken c. Psal 40. Heb. 10.5.10 So that here are two men two Adams the first the last 1 Cor. 15.45 c. So that the vertue of the Death Resurrection and Sacrifice of Christ was from the beginning so as thereby men were either saved or left to the judgement of Christ Though the fruitfulnesse thereof was neither so apparant nor abundant till it was really acted in our nature by Christ John 1 1-17 John 1.1 2. so that there is no Divinity in this Argument of Mr. W. That because many were damned before Christ actually Dyed therefore Christ dyed not for them page 4.36 37. page 11. l. 4. hee might as well have said m●ny were saved before Christ actually dyed therefore he dyed not for them But passing such Arguments as of no force to enlightened beleevers Scripture sheweth us two things wrought by God in the gift of his Son and obtained of God and effected by Christ by vertue of his Death Resurrection and offering himselfe a Sacrifice to God and receit of Spirit in the man viz. 1. A supportation of the old or first creation for a time Psal 75.3 Col. 1.17 Heb. 1.3 In which there is both time and space given that men might repent and come in to their Lord 2 Pet. 3 9. Rev. 3.21 And also meanes and some motion of Spirit to sead and move to repentance and seeking the Lord Rom 2 4. Act. 14 17. 17 26 27. Gen. 6.3 Psal 68.18 And 2. A new creation in which is pardon Peace justification life from the dead or eternall life and inheritance Revel 21.5 which all that by grace are brought into union with Christ partaking of 2 Cor 5 17. Here in this life in spirit in a first fruits Rom. 8 10.23 In the Resurrection in fulnesse both in soule and body Phil. 3.21 1 John 3.2 Now in these two men the first and the last man all men are considerable The first a naturall man The second a spirituall In the first difference of sexe and degree In the second not so The first fallen The second having undertaken hath restored that fallen nature And thereby preserveth the first with that creation for a time so as generations come forth from him the distinctions of sexe and degrees remaining preserved and ordered by him for the time and hath also a new creation for all that come forth of the first Adam and by the means he useth come in to him But as none come in to the second Adam that came not forth of the first so none come forth of the first Adam whose nature the second hath not taken for whom he hath done nothing by which they might partake of him and for refusall thereof be justly judged by him but these two Adams are not both naturall to have their severall posterities by generation The second is a spirituall man and his seed is of such as come in to him by regeneration It was therefore something unsavoury and of no force to prove any thing so to exptesse his comparison and the opposition of the two Adams with their severall posterities and then mention the supposition of a third page 68. line 17 18. unlesse Mr. W. could shew a posterity comming forth of the loynes of the Man Christ or a Generation comming in to him who never came forth of the first Adam and so were first of his posterity But to the businesse as I am helped to understand but by Scripture and also by reason subdued to beleeve God in his owne sayings If Jesus Christ in the beginning did by his consent and agreement with God his Father become the second Man the last publique Man and so under-tooke for the first man the first publique man who was all men Then he under-tooke for all men Rom. 5.12.14 1 Cor. 15.22.45 46 47. If he tooke the nature of the first Adam that was all men and not only a part of that nature or some part of the nature of Adam but the whole nature of whole Adam then he took the nature of all men Luke 3.23.38 Act. 17.26 If Jesus Christ became under the Law and stood in the stead and bare the sins of the first Adam and dyed for his sins in whom all sinned and fell under Law and whose sin was the sin of all men Then surely hee was made under the Law for and stood in the stead and bare the sins and dyed for the sins of all men Though the gift in and by Christ exceed the offence Rom. 8.3 Gal. 3.3.4 Rom. 5. And if Jesus Christ took not on him the difference of sexes and degrees or any of the excellencies or furniture
of the first Adam but only the nature which was one in both sexes and each degree Then he came and dyed for all men in both sexes and every degree not so much respecting sexes or degrees as the nature of men for whom and for whose sins he came and dyed and so for them as men ungodly and sinners and not as elect vessels and a holy generation though to make such and even from the roofe and beginning of all it is evident That Jesus Christ the second publique man undertook as the second man A publique person for the first man a publique person and so for all that were in him and by propogation to come of him that they might not perish in this first judgement and death but to be given him into his dispose to preserve alive a time that they might live to him in this life and after death to raise them and bring them alive before him to be judged by him in another judgement to another life or to another death according to the Gospell Rom. 14 9-12 2 Cor. 5.10 11 14 15. Phil. 2 7-11 Rom. 2.16 and so the holy Ghost teacheth us to understand the businesse saying As by the offence of one unto all men to condemnation even so by the righteousneosse of one unto all men to justification of life Rom. 5.18 that is as is aforesaid in the other in the publicke man that undertooke for all men and that so as their lives are preserved a time and the old creation for them that such as come into him by the meanes he useth while he preserveth them in this old creation may partake of the new creation in him and such as perish in rebellion against him may be brought to another judgement and sentenced to a second Death And so in this sense Jesus Christ hath dyed and given himselfe a ransome for All men so as he hath made an atonement with God and is himselfe become the propitiation for their sinnes that it may be declared or testified in some fruites of his goodnesse to lead to repentance and seeking the Lord that so such as are by grace brought in to beleeve may be reconciled unto God and receive remission of sinnes and eternall life and those that perish in refusall and rebellion be justly sent down to a second Death which is a foundation and ground of and motive to repentance faith and obedience for all men set forth in the Gospell shewing in all this their obligation to Christ with incouragement to come in to Christ and terrour to all that rebell If Mr. T. W. his expressions may be taken in this sense it is yeelded as a true report or else not for this is that which Mr. T. W. opposeth and which T. M. endevoureth to shew proved in the sayings of holy Scripture for otherwise to prove he is still lesse being no Linguist for knowledge of divers tongues no Arthist in Logick either according to Aristotle or Ramus nor learned in Philosophy either morrall politicall or naturall either Epicurian Pithagorean Stoicke or Platonist or were he yet he could not thinke meet by these to square mould and prove Divinity but only what God saith in his word as he is helped to understand he desireth to beleeve and takes his sayings to be proofe enough and of more worth then all the reasons and arguments of men against them But Mr. T. W. saith that for proofe T. M. makes use of three things which he makes the principall ground of his Doctrine That which he cals the first ground for T. M. his proofe is The distinction between the Redemption reconciliation and salvation which Jesus Christ effected in his own body with God for men and that he effected by his Spirit in men God this saith Mr. T. W. is not agreeable to Scripture To which I answer I have been so told by such whom he reproacheth as lay preachers but not by any profest Divines before I read it in Mr. T. W. 2. This distinction and foure more one about the distinct ends of his death another the distinct manner of mentioning those ends another about the divers waies of propounding his death and another about the difference of the extent and force of the same word in Scripture I used for clearing the businesse in stating the question But seeing so many of those he reproacheth as lay preachers affirme them my proofes and now it is so affirmed by two Clerks professed Divines though of contrary judgement and practice let them so stand each of the five distinctions being of the like force to prove and foure of them not faulted by Mr. T. W. 3. This distinction he faulteth is in the Treatise shewn expresly in the Scripture there quoted page 2. to 14 15. and nothing there disproved in any quotation but remaineth full enough to answer all he hath said to fault it besides the distinction and that which it now acknowledged a proofe for are both shewn in that Treatise and in the first part of my answer to Mr. Garner to be plainly set forth and proved in the Scripture 4. His way of faulting the distinction is by framing reasons and calling Scripture to make a consequent with though I hope he will not justifie the Saduces so reasoning from Scripture Mat. 22. as divers in our-dayes also have done to deny the reurrection of the body But this with all that followes in his leasons is answered and the abuse of Scripture therein shewn before in that Treatise in divers places to which he hath said nothing and again in the first and third part of the Reply to M. Garner so as for answer no more need but only to desire the Reader to peruse the same though the Reader of his may see 1. In his first reason much weaknesse for whatever reconciliation be wrough with God in Christ by his Death yet no men are reconciled to God but by the spirituall application thereof when the love of God is there through commended to the heart which slayes the enmity there and reconciles to God in receit of the atonement whence the words while wee were c. and being now justified and wee have now received Atonement Rom. 5.8 9.10 11. The Colotians were enemies in their minds by wicked workes in which they walked after Christ had dyed yea and made peace in presenting the vertue of his death before God also and by application of this were after reconciled to God Col. 1.20 21 22 23. Besides he is not able to prove that the Death of Christ is agreater worke then the resurrection of Christ nor that the reconciling to God by love commended through the death of Christ a greater worke then the further saving by the power of the Spirit of life by which he rose from the dead which sounds harsh to Ephes 1.17.19 20. though his so saying acknowledgeth the distinction As for his altering the Text Rom. 8.32 it may be said God doth not give an un●glorified Sonne to
through whence that 1 Cor. 13.12 1 John 3.2 and more then our faith can fully apprehend and for more then at that time had or yet have that faith and for that he saith of 1 Tim. 4.10 It is still life divinely spoken and I am sorry it hath been declared by his pen viz. that these words are not spoken of the second person of Christ as Mediator but of God by whose providence all men are preserved especially Beleevers Oh that those called Anti-trinitarians might not read this saying of Mr. T. W. for they deny not Christ as Mediator to be a distinct person but only that in this one Almighty living God there should be three distinct unseparable undevided as I beleeve there are in this one God though they say but one person and that the Father and what lesse saith hee that saith plainly These words are not spoken of the second person surely he meant not so he beleeveth the second person to be the same one living God that the Father is nor is his after sentence of Christ as Mediator any helpe or lesse free from error for whatsoever things the Father doth these also doth the Sonne likewise John 5.19 to 27. And the Father hath given him Authority to execute judgement also because he is the Sonne of man he it is by whom the Earth and the Inhabitants there of are upheld and by whom all things consist Psalme 75.3 Col. 1.17 18 nor is there any preservation of mankind fallen into sinne nor of creatures for his use but through a Mediator for God whose mercies are over all his workes is holy and righteous in all his wayes Psalme 85.10 145.8.17 So as all providence is by God in Christ and all dispensation of mercies and meanes through him surely he might have learned a more divine exposition of the words God who is the Saviour from Paul if he dispised him not because sometimes he was a Tent-maker who opens and gives the sense of that Isay 45.21 22 23. no God else besids me A just God a Saviour I am God and none else unto me every knee shall bow as meant of Jesus Phil. 2.10 But Mr. W. faies here the word signifies no more but a preservation I pray doth not that word reach far enough surely such as know the originall as well as he say it s the same word Luk. 2.10 unto you is borne this day a Saviour which is Christ the Lord to which Mr. T. W. glosse might reply that can be no such good tidings of great joy unto all people that are fallen into sinne or that is no more but a preserver which God was from the beginning and is of all men without Christ as Mediator these are dangerous glosses yea the same word say some is frequently used for Saviour in the Apostles writings The rest that followes is fore-answered here pag. 4. But when the wisdome of man will presume to teach what must be wisdome in Christ wee are not like to judge a right of any thing nor will his death or ransome be found to be in vain of such as are by him judged to be a second death which I have writ at large in the discourse of the precious blood of Christ chap. 11. 2. As for his objection set down as mine Christ death is not in vain for those who are damned for hereby they are freed from origin all sinne this is neither my opinion nor faith nor any such thing in my Booke surely if I should say he was non-plust to give a faire answer in reproving what was there said and so devised this objection that he might hint to such as never read my Booke as if I held it and so might seeme to them to have confuted me when he hath done nothing lesse though all his answers to it if they were bent against Christ his dying for all men they are as much against his dying for any as for all 3. As for that he puts as my objection quoting page 39. Christs death is not in vain though all be not savad for he dyed to make them savable and to open a door that they may be saved in this also he wrongs me both in word and sense could not such a one as Mr. Whitfield have answered my sayings without framing them into a mould fit for his own turne the one halfe of his saying none of mine and the rest altered which also was not brought in to such an end as he that reads chapter 7. may see and my words are in page 39. That Jesus Christ hath so dyed for every man that he hath redeemed all mankind satisfied Gods justice is become the propitiation for the sinnes of all men and hath made them savable and opened the door that they might be saved and is so faithfull and able and useth such meanes that whosoever perisheth it will be through their own fault and to the same purpose more largly before page 36. and before that after an explication of the businesse page 11. that as he hath in himselfe so saved all men so being assended he doth by vertue of his death and the redemption wrought in himselfe u●e such meanes and in some seasons so put forth spirit therein that he makes all savable so as there is a possiblenesse in and through him and possibility with him for all men to come in to him to beleeve on him and in beleeving to be eternally saved Joh. 3.16 17 18 19. with farther explication for that an examiner of lesse conscience and skill then Mr. T. W. professeth to have might have seene to have reported righter and understood better then to say hee knoweth not well what can be understood by making saveable unlesse a purchasing a possibility of salvation for all and for all surely a wise man would not use so many reasons to fault hee knew not what but the Treatise declared my meaning fully How I understand That Jesus Christ hath and doth make men saveable where as in the other Treatise is shewne the double enmity mankind fell into by sin And so first how mans fall necessitated him in the day of his sinning in Dying to Dye because of the truth and justice of God so as without death no remission of sin and without resurrection no justification for God cannot lye or be untrue or unjust so as here was a barre removed by Jesus Christ who Dying for all all dyed 2 Cor. 5.14 Though to the dishonour of the Death of Christ Mr. W. say God was able to save men even before Christ was given to dye by what way and meanes hee should think best Though I beleeve Christ was given to Dye though not sent forth to act it in the first moment of Adams fall But Secondly the fall and sin of man did so corrupt the nature and disposition of man that though the death bee suffered by Christ for him he will not come in to God if something be not done to change his