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A discourse of the unlawfulness of praying to saints and angels being a full answer to a letter of Sabran the Jesuite : wherein the practice of the Church of Rome, in praying to saints and angels is plainly proved to be contrary to the doctrine of Christ and the presented authority by him produc'd, to be either forged or impertinent / by Titus Oates, a presbyter of the Church of England.
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Oates, Titus, 1649-1705.
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Wing O33; ESTC R38151
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conclude_v that_o if_o your_o doctor_n be_v in_o the_o right_n your_o ambrose_n and_o your_o bembus_n and_o your_o ambrose_n catharinus_n your_o cusanus_fw-la if_o they_o be_v in_o the_o right_n and_o your_o office_n the_o which_o i_o have_v by_o i_o be_v in_o the_o right_n than_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v mediator_n of_o salvation_n as_o well_o as_o jesus_n christ_n and_o upon_o that_o consideration_n you_o must_v part_v with_o your_o fond_a distinction_n between_o be_v a_o mediator_n of_o salvation_n and_o of_o intercession_n now_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o none_o ever_o arrive_v to_o that_o priesthood_n but_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v call_v of_o god_n as_o be_v aaron_n heb._n 5._o 7._o and_o he_o take_v not_o the_o office_n upon_o he_o till_o god_n do_v so_o call_v he_o then_o how_o dare_v you_o thrust_v this_o office_n upon_o they_o which_o be_v only_o due_a to_o jesus_n christ_n and_o because_o he_o be_v the_o great_a highpriest_n and_o apostle_n of_o our_o profession_n the_o angel_n of_o god_n be_v command_v to_o worship_v he_o and_o till_o you_o prove_v the_o saint_n to_o be_v such_o you_o must_v pardon_v we_o we_o will_v pay_v they_o no_o worship_n we_o do_v praise_n god_n for_o they_o but_o we_o will_v not_o pray_v to_o they_o sir_n i_o know_v you_o make_v a_o great_a account_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n upon_o the_o consideration_n that_o she_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o our_o lord_n it_o be_v a_o great_a honour_n and_o grace_n that_o god_n almighty_a confer_v upon_o she_o and_o therefore_o you_o run_v into_o those_o extravagant_a way_n of_o worship_v she_o true_o i_o with_o very_o good_a assurance_n do_v affirm_v that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a honour_n to_o be_v a_o child_n of_o god_n than_o to_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o jesus_n christ_n observe_v what_o st._n augustine_n say_v beatior_fw-la ergo_fw-la maria_fw-la fuit_fw-la percipiendo_fw-la fidem_fw-la christi_fw-la quam_fw-la concipiendo_fw-la carnem_fw-la 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joh._n tract_n 10._o to_o the_o word_n of_o this_o holy_a doctor_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o join_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n himself_o in_o luke_n 11._o 27_o 28._o and_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v as_o he_o speak_v these_o thing_n that_o be_v while_o he_o preach_v to_o the_o people_n a_o certain_a woman_n of_o the_o company_n lift_v up_o her_o voice_n and_o say_v unto_o he_o bless_a be_v the_o womb_n that_o bear_v thou_o and_o the_o pap_n which_o thou_o have_v suck_v but_o he_o say_v yea_o rather_o bless_a be_v they_o that_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o keep_v it_o i_o pray_v you_o to_o observe_v the_o word_n of_o epiphanius_n lib._n 3._o haeres_fw-la 79._o con_v collyridianos_n christus_fw-la dixit_fw-la quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la &_o tibi_fw-la est_fw-la mulier_fw-la nondum_fw-la venit_fw-la hora_fw-la mea_fw-la quò_fw-la non_fw-la putarent_fw-la aliquis_fw-la magnis_fw-la eximium_fw-la esse_fw-la sanctam_fw-la virginem_fw-la mulierem_fw-la eam_fw-la appellavit_fw-la voluti_fw-la prophetans_fw-la quae_fw-la essent_fw-la futura_fw-la interra_fw-la sectarum_fw-la &_o haereseon_n genera_fw-la ut_fw-la ne_fw-la aliqui_fw-la nimium_fw-la admirari_fw-la sanctam_fw-la in_o hanc_fw-la haeresim_fw-la ejusque_fw-la deliramenta_fw-la delebantur_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la ludibrium_fw-la tota_fw-la res_fw-la &_o anicularum_fw-la fabula_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la ita_fw-la dicam_fw-la tota_fw-la haeresis_fw-la tractatio_fw-la christ_n say_v unto_o his_o mother_n woman_n what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v with_o thou_o my_o hour_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v lest_o any_o man_n shall_v think_v the_o virgin_n mary_n be_v of_o great_a excellency_n he_o call_v her_o woman_n as_o it_o be_v prophesy_v of_o the_o kind_n of_o sect_n and_o heresy_n that_o be_v to_o come_v into_o the_o world_n lest_o any_o man_n have_v too_o great_a a_o opinion_n of_o that_o holy_a saint_n shall_v fall_v into_o the_o heresy_n and_o the_o dotage_n of_o the_o same_o for_o indeed_o the_o whole_a matter_n be_v but_o a_o mockery_n and_o old_a wife_n tale_n and_o true_o to_o say_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o handle_n of_o a_o heresy_n you_o see_v st._n epiphanius_n his_o judgement_n of_o the_o worship_n that_o be_v due_a to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n we_o do_v not_o find_v he_o to_o call_v she_o redemptrix_fw-la or_o mediatrix_fw-la he_o take_v no_o notice_n at_o all_o of_o that_o but_o in_o plain_a word_n tell_v you_o that_o she_o be_v not_o to_o be_v worship_v now_o if_o she_o have_v be_v in_o any_o sense_n a_o mediator_n she_o will_v have_v have_v some_o title_n to_o be_v worship_v and_o adore_v in_o short_a sir_n you_o can_v never_o prove_v she_o in_o any_o case_n whatever_o to_o be_v a_o mediator_n then_o do_v you_o not_o do_v the_o great_a affront_n and_o contempt_n to_o jesus_n christ_n by_o apply_v yourselves_o to_o she_o as_o a_o mediator_n or_o to_o any_o other_o saint_n whatsoever_o do_v you_o not_o in_o your_o office_n pray_v to_o they_o all_o that_o they_o through_o their_o merit_n will_v 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obtain_v that_o pardon_n which_o we_o have_v not_o deserve_v sacrum_n breviary_n fol._n 100_o in_o the_o office_n of_o the_o hour_n as_o it_o be_v use_v at_o rome_n omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la &_o sanctae_fw-la dei_fw-la subvenite_fw-la mihi_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la per_fw-la merita_fw-la vestra_fw-la per_fw-la venire_fw-la valeam_fw-la ad_fw-la eternae_fw-la beatitudinis_fw-la patriam_fw-la there_o be_v another_o prayer_n in_o the_o roman_a breviary_n direct_v to_o st._n judas_n in_o english_a it_o be_v thus_o we_o pray_v thou_o o_o st._n judas_n the_o apostle_n that_o by_o thy_o merit_n thou_o will_v drive_v i_o from_o the_o custom_n of_o my_o sin_n and_o snatch_v i_o from_o the_o power_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o advance_v i_o to_o thy_o invisible_a power_n i_o pray_v consider_v another_o prayer_n in_o your_o office_n for_o the_o sunday_n before_o the_o ascension_n of_o our_o lord_n make_v to_o st._n mary_n magdalen_n in_o these_o word_n o_o mary_n magdalen_n hear_v our_o prayer_n which_o be_v full_a of_o praise_n
not_o i_o pray_v how_o far_o do_v your_o aloysius_n lippomanes_n give_v you_o his_o assistance_n for_o they_o be_v a_o couple_n of_o father_n your_o church_n have_v of_o late_a coin_a to_o help_v they_o in_o the_o time_n of_o need_n but_o if_o you_o do_v find_v it_o in_o nazianzen_n i_o pray_v tell_v we_o where_o that_o we_o may_v give_v you_o a_o more_o satisfactory_a reply_n but_o if_o you_o have_v none_o but_o your_o young_a author_n we_o judge_v it_o a_o forgery_n of_o your_o church_n then_o you_o proceed_v to_o produce_v your_o authority_n from_o those_o father_n which_o do_v defend_v the_o practice_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o the_o first_o you_o produce_v be_v that_o of_o st._n gregory_n nyssen_n which_o i_o have_v reply_v to_o already_o and_o will_v say_v something_o more_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o his_o oration_n upon_o st._n theodore_n that_o he_o say_v the_o christian_n call_v on_o the_o martyr_n as_o on_o god_n minister_n who_o be_v invocate_v by_o they_o 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it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o tend_v to_o the_o countenance_v of_o a_o heathenish_a custom_n viz._n of_o bring_v image_n into_o the_o church_n euseb_n lib._n 7._o cap._n 16._o who_o say_v that_o the_o use_v of_o image_n be_v bring_v into_o the_o church_n first_o by_o the_o heathen_n and_o st._n hierom_n tell_v you_o the_o deck_v of_o they_o be_v to_o deceive_v the_o simple_a argento_n &_o auro_fw-la decoravit_fw-la illud_fw-la ut_fw-la fulgore_fw-la utriusque_fw-la materiae_fw-la dicipiat_v simplices_fw-la qui_fw-la quidem_fw-la error_n ad_fw-la nos_fw-la usque_fw-la transivit_fw-la ut_fw-la religionem_fw-la in_o divitiis_fw-la arbitremur_fw-la hieron_n in_o jer._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o he_o adorn_v his_o image_n with_o silver_n and_o gold_n that_o by_o the_o lustre_n and_o glory_n of_o both_o these_o metal_n he_o may_v deceive_v the_o simple_a which_o error_n creep_v in_o among_o we_o so_o that_o now_o we_o think_v our_o religion_n stand_v in_o riches_n i_o say_v this_o be_v the_o consequence_n of_o those_o high_a fly_v apostrophe_n and_o invocate_a they_o though_o they_o intend_v no_o worship_n to_o they_o for_o they_o be_v convince_v that_o the_o saint_n can_v not_o hear_v they_o therefore_o the_o end_n of_o their_o call_n upon_o they_o be_v the_o more_o to_o induce_v their_o hearer_n to_o follow_v the_o good_a example_n of_o these_o saint_n who_o work_n they_o magnify_v and_o in_o their_o transport_n of_o zeal_n they_o do_v call_v upon_o they_o as_o some_o of_o the_o father_n do_v upon_o other_o thing_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a they_o do_v never_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o hear_v they_o thus_o it_o be_v with_o this_o holy_a nyssen_n in_o this_o oration_n upon_o st._n theodore_n and_o mean_n and_o intend_v no_o prayer_n at_o all_o to_o be_v make_v to_o he_o but_o only_o a_o name_v his_o name_n and_o work_n that_o his_o good_a example_n may_v be_v follow_v your_o doctrine_n of_o the_o saint_n intercession_n be_v no_o way_n prove_v for_o st._n gregory_n intend_v no_o more_o than_o to_o show_v you_o that_o those_o who_o name_n his_o name_n and_o profess_v the_o faith_n he_o profess_v and_o that_o the_o consideration_n of_o his_o holy_a life_n and_o glorious_a martyrdom_n work_v in_o they_o a_o willingness_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n they_o may_v obtain_v those_o favour_n god_n usual_o bestow_v on_o his_o church_n blessing_n suitable_a to_o the_o great_a suffering_n and_o service_n of_o his_o saint_n and_o this_o all_o protestant_n do_v own_o that_o god_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o his_o saint_n that_o have_v be_v eminent_a in_o their_o day_n have_v be_v please_v to_o show_v great_a mercy_n to_o his_o people_n by_o their_o example_n of_o holiness_n and_o obedience_n and_o courageous_a suffering_n many_o have_v be_v bring_v to_o god_n and_o many_o have_v be_v confirm_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o a_o holy_a emulation_n have_v be_v by_o this_o mean_v occasion_v among_o christian_n who_o shall_v outvie_v each_o other_o in_o practice_n suitable_a to_o the_o glorious_a gospel_n which_o they_o profess_v in_o the_o world_n by_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o those_o saint_n who_o name_n they_o have_v in_o continual_a remembrance_n you_o say_v that_o st._n basil_n be_v evident_o plain_a the_o martyr_n call_v by_o his_o name_n show_v himself_o present_a to_o as_o many_o as_o call_v by_o his_o work_n behold_v say_v you_o he_o use_v the_o same_o term_n which_o express_v the_o invocation_n of_o god_n in_o zachary_n sir_n i_o must_v own_o that_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n have_v leave_v sweet_a memorial_n of_o their_o holiness_n and_o piety_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v present_a but_o by_o call_v upon_o the_o saint_n the_o holy_a doctor_n do_v not_o at_o all_o imply_v any_o prayer_n to_o they_o but_o only_o profess_v the_o holiness_n and_o faith_n for_o which_o they_o lay_v down_o their_o life_n i_o pray_v sir_n observe_v the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n zachary_n 13_o chap._n 9_o they_o shall_v call_v upon_o my_o name_n and_o i_o will_v hear_v they_o i_o will_v say_v it_o be_v my_o people_n and_o they_o shall_v say_v the_o lord_n be_v my_o god._n where_o the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n be_v not_o so_o much_o to_o be_v understand_v a_o actual_a prayer_n to_o god_n as_o a_o acknowledgement_n of_o he_o and_o these_o word_n i_o will_v hear_v they_o we_o may_v understand_v thus_o much_o i_o will_v own_v they_o those_o shall_v be_v own_v by_o almighty_a god_n that_o acknowledge_v he_o both_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o justice_n in_o correct_v they_o and_o in_o his_o mercy_n in_o preserve_v they_o which_o explication_n of_o the_o word_n be_v justify_v by_o the_o follow_a word_n i_o will_v say_v it_o be_v my_o people_n and_o they_o shall_v say_v the_o lord_n be_v my_o god._n and_o sir_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o tell_v you_o that_o st._n basil_n say_v thus_o much_o and_o no_o more_o that_o the_o christian_n have_v great_a reason_n to_o own_o the_o martyr_n and_o be_v justify_v in_o so_o do_v for_o that_o they_o be_v yet_o present_a by_o their_o own_o work_n and_o by_o those_o good_a example_n they_o have_v leave_v we_o st._n paul_n say_v let_v every_o one_o that_o name_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n depart_v from_o iniquity_n so_o let_v every_o one_o that_o name_v the_o name_n of_o this_o or_o that_o saint_n or_o martyr_n depart_v from_o iniquity_n let_v man_n not_o only_o call_v they_o by_o their_o name_n or_o pretend_v to_o own_v they_o by_o a_o outward_a profession_n only_o since_o they_o be_v present_a by_o their_o work_n that_o be_v their_o example_n be_v leave_v for_o we_o to_o follow_v but_o what_o reason_n you_o have_v to_o bring_v this_o