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the_o former_a clause_n thou_o shall_v make_v no_o image_n be_v not_o superfluous_a etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la the_o former_a clause_n of_o the_o commandment_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v make_v no_o grave_a image_n forbid_v not_o the_o make_n of_o image_n with_o a_o intention_n to_o worship_n and_o from_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o protestant_n exposition_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v not_o only_o violent_a but_o incongruous_a i_o answer_v grant_v the_o antecedent_n part_n of_o the_o first_o proposition_n for_o whensoever_o god_n forbid_v any_o action_n he_o always_o prohibit_v at_o least_o implicit_o &_o interpretative_o the_o purpose_n and_o intention_n of_o do_v the_o same_o but_o from_o hence_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o because_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n be_v prohibit_v in_o the_o word_n thou_o shall_v not_o bow_v down_o to_o they_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o it_o be_v unnecessary_a and_o superfluous_a to_o say_v thou_o shall_v make_v no_o image_n with_o 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〈◊〉_d down_o to_o they_o nor_o worship_v they_o but_o we_o conjoin_v the_o former_a and_o latter_a word_n verbis_fw-la and_o make_v the_o one_o material_a and_o the_o other_o formal_a and_o expound_v they_o in_o this_o sort_n thou_o shall_v make_v unto_o thyself_o no_o grave_v image_n intend_v to_o use_v the_o same_o contrary_n to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n follow_v which_o prohibit_v the_o adoration_n of_o all_o create_v and_o artificial_a form_n when_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o gospel_n forbid_v to_o look_v on_o a_o woman_n to_o lust_n after_o she_o matth._n 5.28_o we_o may_v not_o divide_v the_o first_o and_o latter_a part_n for_o the_o look_v on_o a_o woman_n without_o lust_n be_v only_o material_a in_o the_o action_n and_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a and_o in_o some_o case_n virtuous_a joh._n 19.26_o luk._n 7.44_o but_o we_o must_v conjoin_v the_o intention_n which_o be_v formal_a to_o the_o material_a aspect_n and_o then_o the_o same_o be_v vicious_a job_n 31.1_o genes_n 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