who_o be_v say_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v adore_v angel_n and_o man_n their_o case_n i_o say_v be_v hardâ—_n if_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o save_v they_o from_o idolatry_n but_o by_o a_o absurd_a catachresis_fw-la never_o dream_v of_o by_o any_o but_o by_o andrewsâ—_n for_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v be_v so_o absurd_a to_o imagine_v a_o catachresis_fw-la where_o there_o be_v no_o want_n of_o proper_a word_n time_n especial_o so_o often_o as_o adoration_n be_v use_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n &_o man_n not_o only_o in_o the_o father_n but_o also_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n where_o i_o â—are_v undertake_v to_o show_v it_o in_o that_o sense_n above_o 40._o time_n for_o i_o have_v take_v pain_n to_o search_v it_o which_o i_o hope_v may_v suffice_v to_o teach_v mâ—_n andrews_n that_o it_o do_v not_o signify_v divine_a honour_n only_o &_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n &_o we_o who_o use_v it_o sometime_o in_o other_o sense_n have_v sufficient_a warrant_n for_o it_o from_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o final_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o catachresis_fw-la i_o mean_v no_o other_o abuse_n in_o all_o this_o matter_n but_o in_o m._n andrews_n his_o corrupt_a conscience_n conscience_n who_o make_v no_o scruple_n to_o abuse_v and_o delude_v his_o reader_n with_o such_o shift_n and_o device_n to_o bolster_v out_o his_o bad_a cause_n thus_o much_o for_o his_o first_o reason_n 21._o his_o second_o reason_n why_o adorare_fw-la be_v take_v figurative_o in_o that_o place_n of_o s._n hierome_n be_v thisâ—_n vbi_fw-la vero_fw-la say_v he_o supra_fw-la propriè_fw-la ei_fw-la loquendum_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o when_o s._n hierome_n be_v to_o speak_v proper_o to_o wit_n to_o vigilantius_n his_o adversary_n who_o press_v he_o strict_o and_o will_v not_o suffer_v he_o to_o speak_v at_o large_a than_o he_o deny_v it_o earnest_o say_v nos_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la dico_fw-la martyrum_fw-la reliquias_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v i_o do_v not_o say_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n but_o neither_o the_o sun_n nor_o the_o moon_n nor_o the_o angel_n nor_o the_o cherubin_n nor_o the_o seraphim_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n end_v his_o citation_n there_o because_o that_o which_o follow_v will_v mar_v all_o his_o market_n as_o you_o shall_v see_v after_o a_o while_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o conclude_v thus_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o will_v the_o cardinal_n say_v here_o see_v that_o the_o old_a father_n of_o the_o church_n do_v cry_v out_o we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n victory_n here_o the_o cardinal_n be_v hold_v so_o fast_o that_o he_o can_v slip_v away_o thus_o triumph_v m._n andrews_n before_o the_o victory_n or_o rather_o have_v lose_v the_o victory_n be_v himself_o a_o captive_n and_o have_v no_o other_o remedy_n leave_v he_o but_o to_o brag_v and_o face_n out_o the_o matter_n 22._o for_o thou_o shall_v understand_v good_a reader_n that_o s._n hierome_n here_o speak_v as_o the_o logician_n say_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v according_a to_o the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o his_o adversary_n vigilantius_n one_o of_o m._n andrews_n his_o worthy_a progenitour_n who_o impugn_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o m._n andrews_n do_v progenitor_n hold_v it_o for_o no_o other_o than_o idolatry_n as_o s._n hierome_n testify_v in_o the_o same_o epistle_n to_o riparius_n which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v ais_fw-mi say_v s._n hierome_n riparium_fw-la vigilantius_n etc._n etc._n you_o say_v that_o vigilantius_n as_o we_o may_v say_v m._n andew_n open_v again_o his_o stink_a mouth_n and_o cast_v forth_o a_o most_o filthy_a savour_n against_o the_o relic_n of_o holy_a martyr_n and_o call_v we_o who_o reverence_v they_o and_o worship_v the_o bone_n of_o the_o dead_a cinerarios_fw-la &_o idololatras_fw-la worshipper_n of_o ash_n &_o idolator_n vigilantium_fw-la so_o he_o and_o in_o his_o tract_n against_o vigilantius_n himself_o he_o set_v down_o vigilantius_n his_o own_o word_n thus_o quid_fw-la nâ—cesse_n est_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o need_n have_v thou_o not_o only_o to_o honour_v with_o so_o great_a honour_n but_o also_o to_o adore_v that_o i_o know_v not_o what_o which_o thou_o worship_v carry_v it_o in_o a_o little_a vessel_n from_o place_n to_o place_n and_o why_o do_v thou_o kiss_v and_o adore_v dust_n leap_v in_o a_o linen_n cloth_n and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o we_o see_v you_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o gentile_n &c._n &c._n every_o where_o kiss_n and_o adore_v i_o know_v not_o what_o little_a dust_n carry_v in_o a_o little_a ussell_n and_o leap_v in_o a_o precious_a linen_n cloth_n thus_o write_v vigilantius_n 23._o whereby_o you_o see_v how_o he_o charge_v the_o catholic_n of_o those_o day_n with_o flat_a idolatry_n for_o worship_v or_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o saint_n take_v adoration_n for_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o in_o which_o respect_n he_o call_v the_o catholic_n idolator_n and_o therefore_o s._n hierome_n answer_v he_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n say_v that_o which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v himself_o to_o wit_n non_fw-la adoramus_fw-la reliquias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o do_v not_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n commit_v idolatry_n as_o vigilantius_n charge_v we_o ibidem_fw-la but_o honoramus_fw-la say_v he_o present_o afterward_o reliquias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la ut_fw-la eum_fw-la cvius_fw-la sunt_fw-la martyris_fw-la adoremus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n that_o we_o may_v adore_v or_o yield_v divine_a honour_n to_o he_o who_o martyr_n they_o be_v god_n honoramus_fw-la serous_a etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v the_o servant_n to_o the_o end_n that_o their_o honour_n may_v redound_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o lord_n who_o say_v he_o which_o receive_v you_o receive_v i_o thus_o say_v s._n hierome_n which_o m._n andrews_n think_v good_a to_o dissemble_v as_o if_o he_o have_v not_o seem_v it_o for_o that_o it_o full_o explicate_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o s._n hierome_n &_o vigilantius_n as_o also_o betwixt_o m._n andrews_n &_o we_o &_o clear_v all_o the_o matter_n for_o who_o see_v not_o here_o that_o albeit_o s._n hierome_n deny_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o vigilantius_n obict_v it_o as_o we_o also_o do_v to_o wit_n as_o signify_v a_o divine_a honour_n yet_o he_o approve_v and_o teach_v it_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o catholic_n that_o be_v as_o adoration_n signify_v a_o veneration_n and_o worship_n do_v to_o saint_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n who_o be_v honour_v &_o glorify_v thereby_o 24._o to_o which_o purpose_n two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v in_o this_o matter_n the_o one_o that_o whereas_o vigilantius_n charge_v the_o catholic_n to_o adore_v and_o kiss_v every_o where_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n he_o show_v sufficient_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v at_o that_o time_n to_o do_v corporal_a reverence_n thereto_o not_o only_o by_o kiss_v they_o but_o also_o by_o incline_v or_o bow_v down_o the_o body_n which_o the_o word_n adoration_n signify_v and_o s._n hierome_n deny_v not_o though_o he_o deny_v the_o inference_n of_o idolatry_n that_o vigilantius_n make_v thereon_o 25._o the_o other_o be_v that_o as_o vigilantius_n do_v not_o herein_o reprove_v the_o particular_a custom_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n but_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o that_o time_n so_o also_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o impugn_v he_o only_o with_o private_a reason_n and_o argument_n of_o his_o own_o but_o also_o with_o public_a example_n as_o of_o the_o public_a translation_n of_o the_o holy_a relic_n of_o s._n andrew_n s._n luke_n and_o s._n timothy_n to_o constantinople_n by_o constantin_n the_o emperor_n suprâ—â—_n apud_fw-la quas_fw-la say_v he_o daemon_n rugiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o which_o relic_n devil_n do_v roar_v and_o the_o inhabitor_n and_o prossessor_n of_o vigilantius_n do_v confess_v that_o they_o feel_v their_o presence_n so_o he_o and_o then_o produce_v also_o another_o example_n that_o have_v pass_v not_o long_o before_o of_o a_o most_o solemn_a translation_n of_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n the_o prophet_n from_o judaea_n to_o chalcedon_n in_o thracia_n which_o be_v sumptuous_o and_o triumphant_o carry_v by_o bishop_n in_o a_o golden_a vessel_n and_o meet_v receive_v and_o accompany_v by_o the_o people_n of_o all_o the_o church_n by_o the_o way_n in_o so_o much_o that_o there_o be_v say_v s._n hierome_n continual_a swarm_n of_o people_n even_o from_o palestina_n to_o chalcedon_n sound_v forth_o the_o praise_n of_o christ_n with_o one_o voice_n all_o a_o long_a as_o they_o go_v hierome_n whereupon_o he_o ask_v vigilantius_n whether_o
catholic_a who_o teach_v or_o think_v that_o the_o bare_a sacrament_n in_o the_o eucharist_n i_o mean_v the_o exterior_a form_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v without_o christ_n presence_n or_o in_o respect_n of_o itself_o and_o this_o may_v suffice_v for_o this_o point_n relic_n 10._o i_o may_v add_v the_o like_o concern_v another_o point_n wherein_o m._n andrew_n charge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n i_o mean_v touch_v the_o reverence_n and_o honour_n that_o be_v and_o always_o have_v be_v do_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o the_o holy_a relic_n of_o saint_n for_o whereas_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n condemn_v it_o for_o a_o new_a and_o false_a yea_o a_o abominable_a doctrine_n and_o the_o cardinal_n in_o his_o answer_n thereto_o so_o ample_o and_o evident_o prove_v it_o out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v m._n andrews_n have_v no_o other_o refuge_n but_o to_o take_v hold_n of_o the_o word_n adoration_n use_v by_o the_o apology_n 18._o understand_v it_o for_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o and_o exact_v of_o the_o cardinal_n some_o proof_n that_o such_o adoration_n be_v due_a to_o relic_n as_o though_o catholic_n be_v of_o that_o opinion_n whereas_o nether_a the_o cardinal_n nor_o any_o other_o catholic_a do_v apply_v that_o word_n to_o relic_n in_o that_o sense_n but_o use_v it_o for_o reverence_n and_o veneration_n due_a to_o holy_a man_n or_o holy_a thing_n as_o the_o cardinal_n himself_o signify_v in_o plain_a and_o express_v word_n so_o that_o if_o the_o say_a apology_n do_v impugn_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o other_o sense_n mean_v the_o exhibition_n of_o divine_a honour_n thereunto_o it_o do_v not_o any_o way_n impugn_v our_o doctrine_n perversity_n but_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n as_o well_o as_o m._n andrew_n though_o so_o absurd_o as_o he_o who_o do_v not_o only_o understand_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n to_o signify_v a_o divine_a honour_n do_v unto_o they_o but_o also_o will_v needs_o prove_v no_o adoration_n of_o creature_n be_v lawful_a 11._o to_o which_o purpose_n he_o allege_v the_o example_n of_o the_o angel_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n 22._o who_o when_o saint_n john_n the_o evangelist_n will_v have_v adore_v he_o twice_o forbid_v he_o to_o do_v it_o at_o both_o time_n say_v vide_fw-la ne_fw-la feceris_fw-la deum_fw-la adora_fw-la â—abeâ—_n see_v that_o thou_o do_v it_o not_o adore_v god_n whereupon_o he_o infer_v that_o see_v s._n john_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a especial_o the_o second_o time_n that_o the_o angel_n be_v not_o god_n and_o yet_o will_v have_v adore_v he_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o i_o mean_v s._n john_n do_v not_o intend_v to_o adore_v he_o with_o adoration_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o but_o with_o such_o say_v m._n andrews_n as_o the_o cardinal_n suppose_v may_v be_v use_v to_o angel_n holy_a man_n or_o sacred_a thing_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o the_o angel_n will_v not_o permit_v it_o 5â—_n and_o therefore_o in_o m._n andrews_n his_o opinion_n no_o such_o adoration_n be_v lawful_a for_o nec_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o angelorum_fw-la ratio_fw-la alia_fw-la alia_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o in_o this_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o adoration_n of_o angel_n and_o of_o saint_n of_o holy_a menâ—_n neither_o be_v there_o more_o respect_n to_o be_v have_v to_o relic_n they_o to_o those_o who_o relic_n they_o be_v so_o he_o not_o admit_v as_o you_o â—ee_o any_o adoration_n of_o angel_n or_o saint_n though_o it_o be_v not_o mean_v thereby_o to_o exhibit_v divine_a honour_n unto_o they_o but_o only_o to_o do_v a_o act_n of_o veneration_n reverence_n or_o religioê°_n worship_n and_o why_o many_o forsooth_o because_o the_o angel_n will_v not_o suffer_v s._n john_n the_o apostle_n to_o adore_v he_o in_o that_o manner_n 12._o wherein_o two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v the_o one_o what_o a_o poor_a conceit_n m._n andrews_n have_v of_o s._n john_n who_o he_o make_v to_o be_v so_o ignorant_a that_o he_o know_v not_o whether_o such_o adoration_n be_v lawful_a or_o no_o evangelist_n until_o the_o angel_n do_v instruct_v he_o and_o forbid_v he_o to_o use_v it_o the_o other_o that_o he_o reason_v as_o substantial_o as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o if_o a_o holy_a man_n shall_v of_o modesty_n and_o humility_n refuse_v some_o extraordinary_a honour_n offer_v unto_o he_o by_o some_o other_o holy_a person_n and_o bid_v he_o not_o to_o do_v it_o to_o he_o but_o to_o god_n he_o must_v needs_o mean_v that_o no_o such_o kind_n of_o reverence_n or_o honour_n may_v be_v do_v to_o man_n for_o such_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o case_n betwixt_o s._n john_n and_o the_o angel_n he_o either_o of_o they_o show_v their_o humility_n and_o the_o respect_n they_o bear_v the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o s._n john_n reverence_v the_o angel_n as_o a_o celestial_a creature_n to_o who_o he_o hold_v himself_o much_o inferior_a and_o the_o angel_n bear_v much_o respect_n and_o reverence_n to_o s._n john_n as_o to_o the_o most_o worthy_a and_o belove_a apostle_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v lord_n and_o master_n to_o they_o both_o and_o therefore_o acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v no_o other_o but_o conseruum_fw-la apoc._n as_o he_o say_v a_o fellow_n servant_n of_o s._n john_n he_o will_v not_o permit_v he_o to_o do_v he_o that_o honour_n but_o bid_v he_o do_v it_o to_o god_n beside_o that_o s._n gregory_n the_o great_a beda_n anselmus_n richardus_fw-la de_fw-fr s._n victore_fw-la and_o rupertus_n do_v give_v also_o another_o reason_n thereof_o to_o wit_n that_o the_o angel_n bare_a respect_n even_o to_o humane_a nature_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o humanity_n of_o our_o saviour_n hinc_fw-la est_fw-la sai_z s._n gregory_n quòd_fw-la lot_n &_o josue_n angelos_n ipsis_fw-la non_fw-la prohibentibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n supra_fw-la for_o this_o cause_n lot_n and_o josue_n adore_v angel_n and_o be_v not_o forbid_v by_o they_o but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o apocalips_n meaning_n to_o adore_v a_o angel_n be_v by_o he_o forbid_v to_o do_v it_o so_o he_o signify_v how_o much_o the_o angel_n respect_v humane_a nature_n after_o the_o incarnation_n of_o our_o saviour_n more_o than_o before_o 13._o but_o for_o the_o further_a satisfaction_n and_o instruction_n of_o the_o unlearned_a reader_n in_o this_o point_n scripture_n he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o there_o be_v three_o kind_n of_o adoration_n specify_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o first_o be_v that_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o and_o be_v call_v by_o divine_v adoratio_fw-la latriae_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o adoration_n or_o exterior_a worship_n exhibit_v by_o some_o corporal_a reverence_n and_o submission_n to_o acknowledge_v our_o duty_n and_o service_n to_o god_n as_o he_o be_v our_o creator_n conseruatour_n and_o chief_a good_a and_o this_o adoration_n be_v so_o due_a proper_a unto_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o be_v idolatry_n to_o exhibit_v the_o same_o unto_o any_o creature_n of_o this_o kind_a the_o scripture_n speak_v when_o it_o say_v 4._o dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la tuum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v thy_o lord_n god_n and_o serve_v he_o alone_o also_o non_fw-la 20._o adorabis_fw-la ea_fw-la neque_fw-la coal_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v nor_o worship_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v idol_n non_fw-la 23._o adorabis_fw-la deos_fw-la eorum_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v â—heir_o go_n 47_o adoravit_fw-la irael_n dominum_fw-la israel_n adore_v our_o lord_n 7._o gedeon_n adoravit_fw-la &_o reversus_fw-la est_fw-la gedeon_n adore_v and_o return_v 4._o very_fw-la adoratores_fw-la adorabunt_fw-la patrem_fw-la in_o spiritu_fw-la &_o veritate_fw-la the_o true_a adorer_n or_o worshipper_n shall_v adore_v my_o father_n in_o spirit_n and_o truth_n and_o the_o like_a occur_v in_o infinite_a other_o place_n as_o well_o of_o the_o new_a as_o the_o old_a testament_n 14â—_n the_o second_o kind_n of_o adoration_n though_o it_o be_v inferior_a to_o this_o yet_o be_v also_o a_o act_n of_o religion_n exhibit_v in_o like_a manner_n exterior_o to_o angel_n saint_n or_o holy_a man_n as_o to_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n and_o for_o the_o honour_n and_o love_n of_o he_o of_o which_o kind_n many_o example_n be_v set_v down_o in_o holy_a scripture_n as_o of_o 18._o abraham_n 19â—_n loâ—_n and_o 22._o balaam_n who_o adore_v angel_n prostrate_v upon_o the_o ground_n and_o of_o 5._o josue_n who_o fall_v down_o prostrate_a before_o a_o angel_n &_o adorans_fw-la ait_fw-la quid_fw-la dominus_fw-la meus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o adore_v say_v why_o do_v my_o lord_n speak_v unto_o his_o servant_n and_o so_o far_o be_v the_o angel_n from_o reprehend_v he_o that_o he_o make_v he_o do_v more_o reverence_n command_v he_o to_o put_v of_o his_o shoe_n because_o the_o place_n be_v holy_a wherein_o he_o stand_v which_o place_n no_o
he_o take_v arcadius_n the_o emperor_n who_o cause_v this_o to_o be_v do_v and_o all_o the_o bishop_n which_o carry_v these_o relic_n and_o all_o the_o multitude_n of_o people_n which_o accompany_v they_o for_o sacrilegious_a person_n and_o fool_n and_o final_o conclude_v deryde_v his_o folly_n videlicet_fw-la say_v he_o adorabant_fw-la samuelem_fw-la non_fw-la christum_fw-la cvius_fw-la samuel_n &_o levita_fw-la &_o propheta_fw-la fuit_fw-la belike_o they_o adore_v samuel_n and_o not_o christ_n who_o levite_n and_o prophet_n samuel_n be_v this_o say_v s._n hierome_n show_v the_o absurdity_n of_o vigilantius_n who_o do_v think_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o adore_v in_o all_o this_o but_o only_o samuel_n whereas_o all_o the_o reverence_n honour_n &_o adoration_n use_v by_o those_o bishop_n and_o people_n to_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n be_v indeed_o do_v to_o christ_n because_o as_o s._n hierome_n say_v before_o seruorum_fw-la honos_fw-la redundat_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la the_o honour_n of_o the_o servant_n redound_v to_o their_o lord_n 26._o so_o that_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o deny_v that_o holy_a relic_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o as_o m._n andrew_n follow_v his_o progenitor_n vigilantius_n will_v needs_o understand_v the_o word_n adoration_n that_o be_v for_o a_o divine_a cult_a and_o worship_n in_o which_o sense_n neither_o s._n hierome_n nor_o the_o catholic_n in_o his_o time_n nor_o we_o now_o do_v use_n or_o take_v it_o when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o holy_a thing_n but_o only_o for_o a_o devout_a and_o religious_a veneration_n as_o s._n hierome_n himself_o do_v also_o use_v it_o not_o only_o in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n touch_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o ash_n of_o s._n john_n and_o other_o prophet_n but_o also_o when_o he_o say_v of_o himself_o ruffin_n praesepe_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o incunabula_fw-la adoravi_fw-la i_o adore_v the_o manger_n and_o cradle_n of_o christ_n and_o again_o expound_v that_o verse_n of_o the_o psalm_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la eius_fw-la adore_v the_o footstole_a of_o his_o foot_n he_o take_v the_o footstool_n to_o be_v the_o cross_n 98._o give_v thereby_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o cross_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o therefore_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o thou_o good_a reader_n to_o judge_v what_o a_o vain_a vaunt_n it_o be_v of_o m._n andrews_n to_o say_v upon_o the_o former_a place_n of_o s._n hierome_n tenetur_fw-la hic_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la ut_fw-la elabi_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la hecre_n the_o cardinal_n be_v take_v and_o hold_v so_o fast_o that_o he_o can_v slip_v away_o whereas_o you_o see_v that_o the_o whole_a place_n and_o the_o circumstance_n be_v lay_v down_o with_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o vigilantius_n and_o s._n hierome_n all_o which_o he_o crafty_o conceal_v he_o be_v catch_v himself_o like_o a_o mouse_n in_o a_o trap_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o get_v out_o with_o his_o credit_n 27._o examine_v but_o yet_o there_o remain_v a_o word_n or_o two_o more_o to_o be_v say_v of_o this_o matter_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n ambrose_n which_o he_o also_o object_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n for_o whereas_o those_o two_o father_n interpret_n the_o word_n of_o the_o psalm_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la eius_fw-la adore_v you_o the_o footstool_n of_o his_o foot_n do_v expound_v the_o footstool_n to_o be_v the_o body_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 12._o teach_v that_o the_o same_o be_v there_o to_o be_v adore_v m._n andrews_n say_v that_o if_o adorare_fw-la may_v be_v take_v proper_o to_o adore_v holy_a thing_n they_o will_v never_o have_v trouble_v themselves_o so_o much_o to_o find_v out_o how_o the_o footstool_n of_o god_n may_v be_v adore_v neither_o will_v they_o have_v determine_v that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v adore_v but_o in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n 13._o whereto_o i_o answer_v firstâ—_o that_o they_o do_v not_o expound_v the_o same_o literal_o but_o mystical_o for_o scabellum_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o footstool_n of_o god_n in_o that_o place_n be_v literal_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o testament_n as_o the_o cardinal_n have_v prove_v by_o many_o notable_a reason_n &_o authority_n in_o his_o controversys_n whereto_o i_o remit_v m._n andrews_n because_o i_o will_v not_o detain_v my_o reader_n too_o long_o upon_o this_o point_n 28._o second_o i_o say_v that_o albeit_o they_o understand_v adoration_n in_o that_o place_n for_o divine_a honour_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o it_o be_v and_o well_o may_v be_v take_v in_o other_o place_n 1._o for_o a_o religious_a worship_n do_v to_o holy_a man_n for_o s._n augustine_n himself_o teach_v express_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o word_n in_o latin_a that_o so_o proper_o signify_v divine_a honour_n or_o worship_n but_o it_o be_v and_o may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n except_o latria_n which_o be_v borrow_v of_o the_o greek_n and_o apply_v either_o always_o say_v s._n augustine_n or_o almost_o always_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n rather_o by_o custom_n and_o use_n then_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n proper_o signify_v seruitus_fw-la service_n for_o which_o cause_n have_v in_o his_o question_n upon_o genesis_n demand_v how_o abraham_n can_v lawful_o adore_v the_o child_n of_o heth_n see_v the_o scripture_n say_v 4._o dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la tuum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v thy_o lord_n god_n and_o serve_v he_o alone_o he_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o say_v there_o deum_fw-la solum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v god_n alone_o but_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v serve_v he_o alone_o and_o note_v also_o that_o for_o the_o word_n seruies_fw-la in_o latin_a the_o greek_a have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o whence_o be_v derive_v latria_n so_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o s._n augustine_n himself_o that_o neither_o adorare_fw-la nor_o any_o other_o latin_a word_n do_v proper_o signify_v to_o worship_n god_n only_o and_o that_o adoratio_fw-la when_o it_o be_v not_o take_v for_o cultus_fw-la latriae_fw-la as_o he_o take_v it_o in_o the_o exposition_n of_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n and_o therefore_o he_o himself_o not_o only_o understand_v adoration_n for_o civil_a worship_n in_o the_o foresay_a example_n of_o abraham_n sanctis_fw-la but_o also_o use_v it_o else_o where_o for_o religious_a worship_n due_a to_o holy_a man_n say_v of_o s._n peter_n beaâ—issimum_fw-la petrum_fw-la piscatorom_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o multitude_n of_o faithful_a people_n do_v now_o adore_v the_o most_o bless_a peter_n the_o fishery_n genibus_fw-la provolutis_fw-la upon_o their_o knee_n theodosij_n 29._o s._n ambrose_n also_o make_v no_o doubt_n to_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o veneration_n and_o worship_n of_o holy_a thing_n who_o speak_v of_o the_o nail_n of_o christ_n cross_n which_o queen_n helen_n cause_v to_o be_v set_v in_o the_o diadem_n of_o the_o emperor_n constantin_n her_o son_n say_v that_o she_o do_v wise_o therein_o ut_fw-la crux_fw-la christi_fw-la adoretur_fw-la in_o regibus_fw-la that_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o king_n and_o to_o show_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o religious_a worship_n &_o adoration_n &_o not_o of_o civil_a honour_n due_a to_o king_n he_o add_v immediate_o non_fw-la insolentia_fw-la ista_fw-la sed_fw-la pietas_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la defertur_fw-la sacrae_fw-la redemptioni_fw-la this_o be_v not_o insolency_n but_o piety_n when_o 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v refer_v to_o our_o holy_a redemption_n wherein_o i_o wish_v it_o â—o_o be_v note_v by_o the_o way_n that_o m._n andrew_n may_v learn_v hereby_o how_o impertinent_o he_o answer_v else_o where_o to_o this_o place_n allege_v by_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n for_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v the_o religious_a adoration_n of_o relic_n and_o image_n object_v out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n this_o very_a place_n to_o wit_n that_o queen_n helen_n do_v well_o and_o wise_o cause_v the_o cross_n to_o be_v set_v upon_o the_o head_n of_o king_n to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o king_n m._n andrews_n answer_v ambrosio_n that_o if_o the_o cross_n be_v adore_v in_o king_n non_fw-la aliter_fw-la adoratur_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o adore_v then_o the_o king_n themselves_o be_v autem_fw-la civilis_fw-la honos_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la religiosus_fw-la but_o this_o be_v a_o civil_a and_o not_o religious_a honour_n so_o he_o but_o you_o see_v here_o that_o the_o adoration_n whereof_o s._n ambrose_n speak_v be_v not_o due_a or_o give_v to_o the_o king_n themselves_o but_o refer_v to_o our_o redemption_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o
1â—_n and_o saint_n be_v present_a among_o man_n per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la by_o the_o divine_a power_n 63._o and_o to_o show_v this_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v these_o word_n out_o of_o the_o say_a treatise_n of_o s._n augustine_n non_fw-la ideo_fw-la putandum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v think_v that_o every_o one_o of_o the_o dead_a may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o affair_n of_o man_n because_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a in_o heal_v and_o help_v some_o man_n but_o rather_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o because_o the_o dead_a can_v be_v present_a among_o man_n by_o their_o own_o nature_n therefore_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a at_o man_n affair_n by_o the_o divine_a power_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n where_o you_o see_v he_o distinguish_v betwixt_o natural_a and_o supernatural_a mean_n and_o betwixt_o the_o glorify_a saint_n of_o god_n for_o such_o be_v the_o martyr_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v and_o other_o dead_a man_n grant_v that_o the_o martyr_n do_v that_o by_o supernatural_a and_o divine_a mean_n which_o other_o dead_a man_n can_v natural_o do_v and_o this_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n that_o all_o catholic_n hold_v concern_v the_o knowledge_n that_o the_o glorify_a saint_n have_v of_o thing_n do_v in_o earth_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v the_o same_o natural_o but_o by_o supernatural_a mean_n whether_o they_o see_v it_o in_o see_v the_o divine_a essence_n or_o know_v it_o otherwise_o by_o revelation_n so_o as_o thereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o m._n andrew_n have_v notable_o abuse_v both_o s._n augustine_n and_o the_o cardinal_n s._n augustine_n in_o make_v he_o to_o affirm_v of_o glorify_a saint_n that_o which_o he_o speak_v of_o other_o dead_a man_n as_o if_o he_o make_v no_o difference_n between_o the_o supernatural_a knowledge_n and_o power_n of_o the_o one_o and_o the_o natural_a of_o the_o other_o which_o he_o evident_o distinguish_v also_o he_o abuse_v the_o cardinal_n in_o take_v hold_n of_o his_o objection_n and_o dissemble_v his_o solution_n which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o gross_a and_o palpable_a fraud_n or_o rather_o foolery_n that_o may_v be_v imagine_v in_o this_o kind_n andrew_n 64._o furthermore_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n produce_v the_o evident_a and_o clear_a testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n to_o prove_v that_o many_o miracle_n be_v do_v by_o the_o relic_n of_o s._n stephen_n in_o africa_n m._n andrews_n wish_v the_o cardinal_n to_o consider_v how_o he_o can_v well_o and_o handsome_o reconcile_v augustine_n with_o augustine_n concern_v those_o miracle_n 157._o and_o his_o reason_n be_v because_o augustine_n say_v in_o a_o epistle_n to_o his_o clergy_n 1._o and_o all_o the_o people_n of_o hippo_n nusquam_fw-la hic_fw-la in_o africa_n tâ—lia_fw-la fieri_fw-la se_fw-la scire_fw-la he_o know_v that_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o do_v any_o where_o in_o africa_n which_o i_o beseech_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o note_v and_o thou_o shall_v evident_o see_v the_o good_a conscience_n of_o m._n andrews_n 137_o who_o abuse_v s._n augustine_n notable_o two_o way_n the_o one_o in_o make_v he_o seem_v to_o contradict_v himself_o most_o manifest_o impudent_o yea_o and_o to_o give_v himself_o as_o it_o be_v the_o lie_n witness_v in_o one_o place_n matter_n of_o fact_n upon_o his_o own_o knowledge_n for_o so_o he_o testify_v those_o miracle_n do_v by_o s._n stephen_n relic_n and_o in_o another_o place_n affirm_v that_o he_o know_v the_o same_o to_o be_v false_a for_o so_o must_v it_o needs_o be_v if_o he_o know_v that_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o do_v any_o where_o in_o africa_n the_o other_o abuse_n be_v in_o that_o he_o pervert_v the_o sense_n of_o s._n augustin_n epistle_n as_o it_o will_v easy_o appear_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o occasion_n why_o s._n augustine_n write_v the_o same_o which_o therefore_o i_o think_v good_a here_o to_o relate_v 65._o a_o scandalous_a quarrel_n be_v fall_v out_o betwixt_o a_o chaplain_n of_o s._n augustin_n and_o a_o young_a man_n concern_v a_o infamous_a calumniation_n raise_v by_o the_o young_a man_n against_o the_o priest_n whereof_o the_o truth_n can_v not_o be_v try_v or_o know_v because_o the_o matter_n depend_v whole_o upon_o their_o own_o oath_n and_o testimony_n s._n augustin_n advise_v they_o to_o go_v to_o nola_n in_o italy_n to_o the_o body_n of_o s._n felix_n where_o it_o please_v god_n ordinary_o in_o like_a case_n to_o discover_v perjury_n by_o the_o miraculous_a punishment_n of_o the_o perjure_a person_n and_o of_o this_o he_o think_v good_a afterward_o to_o give_v account_n unto_o his_o clergy_n and_o people_n for_o their_o satisfaction_n which_o he_o do_v by_o the_o epistle_n that_o m._n andrews_n cit_v wherein_o discourse_v by_o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o matter_n why_o almighty_a god_n do_v such_o miracle_n in_o some_o place_n and_o not_o in_o other_o he_o say_v â—37_n multis_fw-la notissima_fw-la est_fw-la sanctitas_fw-la loci_fw-la etc._n etc._n many_o do_v very_o well_o know_v the_o holiness_n of_o the_o place_n where_o lie_v the_o body_n of_o bless_a felix_n of_o nola_n whither_o i_o ordain_v they_o to_o go_v because_o from_o thence_o i_o may_v more_o easy_o and_o true_o understand_v by_o letter_n whatsoever_o that_o shall_v please_v god_n to_o manifest_v in_o either_o of_o they_o so_o he_o and_o then_o have_v add_v that_o also_o in_o milan_n a_o perjure_a thief_n be_v discover_v miraculous_o at_o the_o monument_n of_o certain_a saint_n and_o force_v to_o restore_v that_o which_o he_o have_v steal_v he_o say_v further_a thus_o numquid_fw-la non_fw-la africa_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o africa_n full_a of_o the_o body_n of_o holy_a martyr_n &_o tamen_fw-la nusquam_fw-la hic_fw-la scimus_fw-la talia_fw-la fieri_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o nevertheless_o we_o know_v that_o such_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o say_v miracle_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v not_o do_v any_o where_o here_o in_o africa_n for_o even_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o all_o holy_a man_n have_v not_o the_o gift_n of_o heal_a so_o also_o he_o who_o divide_v thing_n proper_a or_o peculiar_a to_o every_o one_o as_o it_o please_v he_o will_v not_o have_v these_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v at_o all_o the_o memory_n or_o monument_n of_o saint_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n 66._o whereby_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o thou_o see_v good_a reader_n in_o what_o sense_n he_o deny_v miracle_n to_o have_v be_v do_v in_o africa_n that_o be_v to_o say_v such_o miracle_n as_o be_v do_v at_o the_o body_n of_o s._n felix_n for_o the_o discovery_n and_o punishment_n of_o perjury_n and_o not_o such_o as_o he_o testify_v else_o where_o to_o have_v be_v ordinary_o do_v at_o the_o relic_n of_o s._n stephen_n 8._o whereof_o he_o recount_v such_o a_o multitude_n with_o such_o asseveration_n of_o his_o own_o knowledge_n thereof_o and_o public_a testymony_n of_o a_o infinite_a number_n of_o witness_n and_o such_o particular_a relation_n of_o circumstance_n 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