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A46985 A reply to the defense of the Exposition of the doctrin of the Church of England being a further vindication of the Bishop of Condom's exposition of the doctrin of the Catholic Church : with a second letter from the Bishop of Meaux. Johnston, Joseph, d. 1723. 1687 (1687) Wing J870; ESTC R36202 208,797 297

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shall_v not_o question_v whether_o this_o be_v not_o one_o of_o the_o less_o faithful_a translation_n in_o this_o epistle_n because_o we_o know_v not_o what_o the_o word_n may_v be_v in_o greek_a neither_o will_v i_o go_v about_o to_o show_v that_o the_o accident_n themselves_o be_v often_o say_v to_o have_v their_o nature_n and_o that_o sometime_o call_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o which_o they_o be_v the_o accident_n but_o i_o must_v say_v that_o if_o the_o word_n nature_n in_o that_o place_n mean_v substance_n or_o body_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n shall_v be_v this_o though_o the_o substance_n or_o body_n of_o bread_n remain_v the_o parallel_n will_v have_v be_v false_a and_o st._n chrysostom_n instead_o of_o dissuade_v caesarius_n from_o the_o heresy_n of_o apollinarius_n will_v have_v draw_v he_o to_o that_o of_o nestorius_n for_o caesarius_n must_v necessary_o have_v argue_v thus_o your_o parallel_n be_v betwixt_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o the_o person_n or_o subsistence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o incarnation_n if_o then_o there_o be_v two_o substance_n in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o be_v also_o two_o subsistence_n in_o christ_n but_o this_o be_v far_o from_o st._n chrysostoms_n design_n his_o intention_n be_v therefore_o to_o show_v caesarius_n that_o as_o in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n after_o consecration_n there_o be_v but_o one_o substance_n one_o body_n of_o christ_n though_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n remain_v and_o that_o this_o substance_n be_v true_o call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n so_o in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o incarnation_n there_o be_v but_o one_o son_n one_o person_n and_o that_o divine_a though_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o manhood_n do_v remain_v now_o what_o can_v be_v more_o clear_a for_o transubstantiation_n than_o this_o that_o in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o shall_v be_v but_o one_o body_n one_o substance_n and_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o our_o defender_n object_n that_o st._n chrysostom_n only_o say_v it_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o it_o be_v call_v not_o two_o body_n but_o one_o body_n of_o the_o son_n and_o therefore_o the_o change_n be_v only_o in_o the_o appellation_n and_o not_o in_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o certain_o if_o caesarius_n have_v understand_v st._n chrysostom_n in_o that_o sense_n caesarius_n may_v have_v answer_v he_o you_o will_v persuade_v i_o i_o see_v to_o be_v a_o arian_n and_o believe_v there_o be_v only_o a_o change_n in_o christ_n as_o to_o appellation_n and_o that_o he_o be_v not_o true_o god_n but_o only_o call_v so_o but_o this_o great_a saint_n and_o learned_a doctor_n be_v far_o from_o err_v in_o these_o point_n for_o last_o 83._o last_o 83._o that_o he_o do_v believe_v the_o real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o that_o a_o change_n be_v there_o make_v of_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n into_o the_o sustance_n of_o his_o body_n appear_v by_o many_o plain_a expression_n in_o his_o undoubted_a work_n bigotius_n mention_v two_o passage_n in_o his_o suppress_a epistle_n which_o i_o will_v here_o give_v the_o reader_n in_o english_a though_o the_o defender_n do_v not_o think_v it_o convenient_a so_o to_o do_v and_o add_v two_o or_o three_o more_o 1616._o more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hom._n 2._o ad_fw-la pop_n antioch_n in_o fine_a pag._n 43._o b._n edit_n frontoduc_n 1616._o elias_n say_v he_o leave_v his_o mantle_n to_o his_o disciple_n but_o the_o son_n of_o god_n leave_v we_o his_o flesh_n elias_n strip_v himself_o indeed_o to_o leave_v it_o but_o christ_n both_o leave_v we_o his_o flesh_n and_o retain_v it_o himself_o ascend_v let_v we_o not_o therefore_o lose_v courage_n nor_o lament_v nor_o fear_v the_o difficulty_n of_o time_n for_o he_o who_o do_v not_o refuse_v to_o shed_v his_o blood_n for_o all_o and_o have_v communicate_v to_o we_o his_o flesh_n and_o also_o that_o very_a blood_n what_o will_v he_o refuse_v for_o our_o salvation_n the_o second_o passage_n cite_v by_o bigotius_n be_v thus_o at_o length_n 1003._o length_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hom._n 83_o in_o matth._n pag._n 703._o d._n edit_n commel_n 1003._o let_v we_o therefore_o every_o where_o believe_v god_n neither_o let_v we_o resist_v he_o although_o what_o he_o say_v may_v seem_v absurd_a to_o our_o sense_n or_o cogitation_n let_v his_o word_n rule_v our_o sense_n and_o reason_n which_o we_o perform_v in_o all_o but_o especial_o in_o the_o mystery_n not_o only_o look_v upon_o those_o thing_n which_o lie_v before_o we_o but_o retain_v also_o his_o word_n for_o we_o can_v be_v deceive_v by_o his_o word_n but_o our_o sense_n be_v easy_o to_o be_v deceive_v those_o can_v be_v false_a but_o these_o be_v often_o and_o often_o deceive_v see_v therefore_o he_o have_v say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n let_v we_o not_o be_v doubtful_a but_o believe_v and_o view_v it_o with_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v a._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 704._o a._n how_o many_o be_v there_o now_o who_o say_v i_o will_v glad_o see_v his_o form_n his_o shape_n i_o will_v see_v his_o very_a garment_n i_o will_v see_v his_o shoe_n behold_v thou_o see_v answer_n he_o himself_z thou_o touch_v he_o thou_o eat_v he_o and_o thou_o be_v still_o desirous_a to_o see_v his_o garment_n and_o a_o little_a further_o who_o will_v declare_v the_o power_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o who_o will_v publish_v all_o his_o praise_n what_o shepherd_n ever_o yet_o feed_v his_o flock_n with_o his_o own_o member_n and_o why_o do_v i_o mention_v shepherd_n there_o be_v many_o mother_n who_o give_v their_o child_n to_o other_o nurse_n but_o he_o christ_n not_o so_o he_o nourish_v we_o with_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o close_o knit_v himself_o to_o we_o in_o all_o thing_n a._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 705._o a._n the_o thing_n we_o propose_v be_v not_o do_v by_o human_a power_n he_o who_o wrought_v these_o thing_n at_o the_o last_o supper_n be_v the_o author_n of_o what_o be_v do_v here_o we_o hold_v but_o the_o place_n of_o minister_n but_o he_o who_o sanctify_v and_o change_v they_o be_v christ_n himself_n to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v that_o in_o his_o liturgy_n the_o priest_n pray_v frontonduc_n pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 5._o p._n 614._o b._n edit_n frontonduc_n that_o god_n will_v make_v that_o bread_n the_o precious_a body_n of_o his_o son_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o chalice_n the_o pretions_n blood_n of_o his_o christ_n etc._n etc._n change_v they_o by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n and_o in_o his_o homily_n the_o proditione_n judae_n he_o teach_v that_o judas_n receive_v the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o betray_v his_o word_n be_v these_o and_o judas_n be_v present_a when_o christ_n say_v these_o word_n a._n word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 3._o serm._n 30._o pag._n 463._o a._n this_o be_v the_o body_n say_v he_o o_o judas_n which_o thou_o have_v sell_v for_o thirty_o piece_n of_o silver_n this_o be_v the_o blood_n for_o which_o thou_o have_v make_v a_o bargain_n with_o the_o pharisee_n oh_o the_o mercy_n of_o christ_n oh_o the_o madness_n of_o judas_n he_o make_v a_o bargain_n to_o sell_v he_o for_o thirty_o penny_n and_o christ_n offer_v he_o the_o blood_n which_o he_o sell_v that_o he_o may_v have_v remission_n of_o his_o sin_n if_o he_o will_v have_v cease_v to_o be_v wicked_a for_o judas_n be_v there_o and_o be_v permit_v to_o partake_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n c._n sacrifice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n c._n for_o it_o be_v not_o man_n who_o make_v the_o propose_v element_n to_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v crueify_v for_o we_o the_o priest_n perform_v the_o ceremony_n and_o pronounce_v the_o word_n but_o it_o be_v the_o virtue_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o operate_v the_o whole_a he_o say_v 1.28_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n c._n gen._n 1.28_o this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o word_n transmute_v or_o change_v the_o propose_v thing_n or_o element_n and_o as_o the_o voice_n which_o say_v increase_v and_o multiply_v and_o fill_v the_o earth_n be_v but_o once_o speak_v but_o in_o all_o time_n by_o the_o operation_n of_o nature_n feel_v the_o effect_n as_o to_o generation_n so_o that_o voice_n be_v but_o once_o uttor_v but_o yet_o give_v a_o firmness_n to_o the_o sacrifice_n throughout_o all_o the_o table_n of_o the_o church_n even_o to_o this_o very_a day_n and_o shall_v continue_v it_o even_o to_o his_o very_a come_n these_o thing_n be_v consider_v 129._o appendix_n p._n 129._o
the_o defender_n need_v not_o fear_v that_o st._n chrysostom_n shall_v lose_v his_o credit_n among_o we_o or_o that_o we_o shall_v henceforth_o begin_v to_o lessen_v his_o reputation_n since_o we_o can_v any_o long_o suppress_v his_o doctrine_n no_o no_o neither_o he_o nor_o theodoret_n be_v against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n though_o our_o adversary_n by_o all_o their_o art_n endeavour_v to_o draw_v one_o obscure_a passage_n out_o of_o either_o of_o they_o as_o favour_v their_o opinion_n as_o for_o st._n chrysostom_n i_o must_v tell_v the_o defender_n with_o bigotius_n legisse_fw-la integrum_fw-la librum_fw-la conficerem_fw-la si_fw-la ex_fw-la chrysostomo_fw-la locos_fw-la omnes_fw-la excerperem_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la de_fw-la sacratissima_fw-la eucharèstia_fw-la similiter_fw-la loquor_fw-la sed_fw-la laetius_fw-la ac_fw-la salubrius_fw-la tibi_fw-la erit_fw-la eos_fw-la in_o fonte_fw-la legisse_fw-la that_o shall_v i_o extract_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o his_o work_n in_o which_o he_o use_v the_o like_a plain_a expression_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n it_o will_v make_v a_o book_n by_o itself_o they_o who_o desire_v far_a satisfaction_n may_v go_v to_o the_o fountain_n itself_o and_o if_o they_o will_v but_o spend_v some_o sew_v hour_n in_o a_o library_n and_o there_o read_v entire_o and_o not_o by_o parcel_n his_o 83_o hom._n in_o mattb._n his_o 21_o hom._n in_o act._n and_o his_o 24_o in_o 1_o cor._n they_o will_v there_o find_v how_o contrary_a st._n chrysostoms_n opinion_n be_v to_o what_o the_o defender_n will_v make_v we_o believe_v 56._o believe_v expost_n doctr._fw-la ch._n of_o eng._n p._n 56._o his_o next_o argument_n be_v from_o the_o schoolman_n schoolman_n schoolman_n 84._o argument_n from_o schoolman_n who_o as_o he_o say_v and_o cite_v these_o author_n in_o the_o 11._o the_o lomb._n 4._o do_v 10._o scotus_n 4._o do_v 2._o qu._n 11._o margin_n for_o it_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n any_o formal_a proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n opinion_n transubstantiation_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr euch._n l._n 3._o c._n 13._o ss_z secundo_fw-la dicit_fw-la where_o he_o cite_v many_o other_o of_o the_o same_o opinion_n that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o that_o withot_v the_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n will_v be_v able_a to_o evince_v it_o 1._o it_o cajeta●_n in_o 3._o d._n th._n qu._n 75._o art._n 1._o that_o have_v not_o the_o church_n declare_v herself_o for_o the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n the_o other_o may_v with_o as_o good_a warrant_n have_v be_v receive_v a._n receive_v see_v scotus_n cite_v by_o bellarmin_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr euch._n c._n 23._o ss_z vnum_fw-la tamen_fw-la see_v also_o gabricl_n cite_v by_o suarez_n t._n 3._o disp_n 50._o sect._n 1_o so_o lembard_n l._n 4._o scent_n do_v 11._o light_v a._n and_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v no_o matter_n of_o faith_n till_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n 1200_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o that_o have_v not_o that_o and_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n since_o interpose_v it_o will_v not_o have_v be_v so_o to_o this_o very_a day_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n i_o tell_v he_o first_o 80._o vindi●_n pag._n 80._o that_o if_o the_o schoolman_n use_v those_o expression_n that_o there_o be_v no_o formal_a proof_n in_o scripture_n for_o transubstantiation_n which_o can_v evince_v it_o without_o the_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v but_o what_o they_o also_o affirm_v as_o to_o the_o trinity_n and_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o son_n nay_o even_o as_o to_o all_o the_o principal_a article_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o as_o to_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o their_o being_n the_o word_n of_o god_n all_o which_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o church_n declaration_n to_o make_v they_o clear_a and_o convince_a either_o to_o obstinate_a heretic_n who_o be_v always_o ready_a to_o drop_v text_n of_o scripture_n or_o to_o atheistical_a person_n who_o will_v rely_v upon_o nothing_o but_o sense_n and_o reason_n second_o 83._o ibid._n pag._n 82_o 83._o i_o desire_v he_o to_o state_n the_o question_n right_a and_o to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o school_n i_o tell_v he_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o anathematise_v all_o those_o who_o shall_v say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v in_o the_o most_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 2._o sess_n 13._o can_n 2._o together_o with_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n or_o shall_v deny_v that_o wonderful_a and_o singular_a conversion_n of_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o the_o bread_n into_o the_o body_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o wine_n into_o the_o blood_n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n only_o remain_v which_o conversion_n the_o catholic_a church_n do_v most_o apt_o call_v transubstantiation_n but_o i_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o schoolman_n though_o they_o all_o agree_v as_o to_o the_o matter_n yet_o may_v have_v have_v several_a opinion_n concern_v several_a possible_a manner_n of_o explicate_a transubstantiation_n all_o which_o opinion_n as_o they_o be_v not_o of_o necessary_a belief_n so_o be_v they_o not_o to_o enter_v as_o a_o part_n of_o our_o dispute_n with_o protestant_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n i_o tell_v he_o last_o that_o he_o mistake_v the_o meaning_n of_o our_o author_n who_o when_o they_o speak_v of_o the_o matter_n that_o be_v of_o the_o real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o absence_n of_o bread_n which_o be_v make_v by_o that_o wonderful_a and_o singular_a change_n of_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o one_o into_o the_o other_o call_v by_o the_o church_n transubstantiation_n they_o be_v all_o at_o perfect_a agreement_n assert_v it_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n always_o believe_v in_o the_o church_n though_o more_o explicit_o declare_v in_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n and_o other_o succeed_a council_n upon_o account_n of_o the_o opposition_n make_v by_o berengarius_fw-la and_o his_o follower_n but_o that_o as_o to_o the_o manner_n of_o explicate_v this_o transubstantiation_n as_o whether_o it_o be_v by_o production_n or_o adduction_n or_o annihilation_n 91._o lombard_n say_v cum_fw-la haec_fw-la verba_fw-la proferuntur_fw-la conversto_fw-la fit_a panis_n &_o vini_fw-la in_o substantiam_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la lomb._n in_o 4._o do_v 8._o li●_n c._n he_o also_o in_o his_o 10_o do_v show_v it_o to_o have_v be_v a_o herosy_n in_o his_o time_n not_o to_o have_v believe_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v convert_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o ids_n body_n and_o blood._n though_o in_o the_o 11_o do_v he_o consess_v he_o know_v 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