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to_o answer_v the_o father_n you_o former_o severe_o censure_v this_o way_n in_o bellarmin_n when_o he_o say_v chrysostom_n in_o many_o place_n speak_v like_o a_o orator_n and_o do_v you_o now_o fall_v under_o the_o same_o condemnation_n theoph._n i_o have_v give_v a_o answer_n unto_o beauties_n argument_n out_o of_o nazianzen_n and_o now_o i_o make_v this_o necessary_a observation_n to_o the_o reader_n for_o great_a caution_n phil._n s_o t_z hilary_n live_v in_o this_o four_o century_n a_o eminent_a bishop_n in_o france_n who_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o 129_o psalm_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o angel_n be_v precedent_n of_o church_n theoph._n he_o bring_v a_o strange_a proof_n of_o the_o assertion_n rev._n 2._o 3._o from_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n which_o be_v general_o take_v by_o interpreter_n for_o the_o bishop_n of_o those_o church_n and_o they_o can_v possible_o stand_v for_o the_o heavenly_a power_n and_o spirit_n because_o some_o infirmity_n be_v 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the_o number_n and_o weary_a the_o reader_n phil._n bellarmin_n show_v how_o the_o same_o holy_a father_n in_o psal_n 124._o speak_v alike_o of_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o holy_a apostle_n and_o prophet_n theoph._n true_o he_o do_v allegorise_v the_o mountain_n which_o stand_v round_o about_o jerusalem_n ang._n jerusalem_n nec_fw-la leave_n praesidium_fw-la in_o apostolis_n vel_fw-la patriarchis_fw-la &_o prophetis_fw-la vel_fw-la potius_fw-la in_o ang._n to_o be_v the_o guard_n of_o saint_n or_o rather_o say_v he_o of_o angel_n about_o god_n people_n but_o leave_v s_n t_o hilary_n allegory_n i_o pray_v observe_v what_o the_o prophet_n david_n add_v immediate_o as_o the_o mountain_n stand_v about_o jerusalem_n so_o the_o lord_n be_v round_o about_o his_o people_n from_o henceforth_o even_o for_o ever_o and_o hilary_n thereupon_o declare_v dei_fw-la declare_v benumb_v quidem_fw-la praesidium_fw-la angeli_fw-la sed_fw-la melius_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o safeguard_n of_o the_o angel_n 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these_o be_v god_n martyr_n and_o our_o bishop_n overseer_n of_o our_o life_n and_o action_n let_v we_o not_o pignora_fw-la c_o lib._n de_fw-fr viduis_fw-la ultra_fw-la medium_n obsecrandi_fw-la sunt_fw-la ang._n etc._n etc._n obs_o sunt_fw-la martyr_n corporis_fw-la pignora_fw-la blush_v to_o admit_v these_o as_o intercessor_n for_o our_o infirmity_n because_o they_o when_o they_o do_v overcome_v be_v yet_o sensible_a of_o the_o infirmity_n of_o the_o body_n theoph._n saint_n ambrose_n be_v but_o a_o young_a divine_a a_o novice_n and_o cathechumen_n when_o he_o be_v choose_v bishop_n of_o millam_n he_o be_v train_v up_o in_o civil_a affair_n plead_v cause_n &_o as_o a_o deputy_n of_o the_o country_n administer_a justice_n &_o therefore_o we_o have_v no_o teason_n to_o ground_v our_o faith_n upon_o he_o dictate_v he_o speak_v often_o pious_o but_o not_o always_o orthodox_o do_v you_o allow_v that_o passage_n of_o he_o in_o this_o very_a proof_n
breviaries_n ibid._n c._n 17._o maria_fw-la matergratiae_fw-la mater_fw-la misericordiae_fw-la tu_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la host_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n tell_v we_o the_o church_n catholic_n in_o her_o hymn_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n pray_v thus_o o_o marry_o mother_n of_o grace_n mother_n of_o mercy_n do_v thou_o defend_v we_o from_o the_o enemy_n and_o and_o receive_v we_o in_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n if_o we_o may_v judge_n of_o word_n by_o their_o signification_n doubtless_o this_o prayer_n import_v more_o than_o bare_o a_o desire_n of_o her_o assistance_n by_o her_o prayer_n phil._n bellarmin_n in_o the_o same_o place_n give_v you_o a_o general_a rule_n against_o such_o sinister_a construction_n verborum_fw-la construction_n nos_fw-la non_fw-la agere_fw-la de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la at_o sensis_fw-la verborum_fw-la we_o dispute_v not_o of_o the_o word_n but_o of_o their_o sense_n now_o the_o sense_n of_o our_o church_n in_o all_o such_o petition_n be_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n by_o their_o prayer_n and_o by_o their_o merit_n will_v procure_v these_o thing_n for_o we_o theoph._n although_o this_o may_v be_v the_o sense_n of_o your_o church_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n and_o methinks_v to_o avoid_v the_o just_a occasion_n of_o scandal_n give_v to_o your_o adversary_n by_o they_o &_o the_o occasion_n of_o error_n and_o delusion_n give_v to_o your_o undiscerning_a votary_n your_o church_n shall_v have_v express_v herself_o in_o more_o inoffensive_a and_o justifiable_a term_n bellarmine_n give_v a_o 2_o do_v instance_n in_o the_o hymn_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o say_v the_o church_n pray_v thus_o etc._n thus_o quorum_fw-la praecepto_fw-la subditur_fw-la salus_fw-la &_o languor_n omvium_n sanent_fw-la aegros_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v the_o holy_a apostle_n unto_o who_o command_n both_o the_o welfare_n and_o languish_n of_o all_o man_n be_v submit_v let_v they_o heal_v we_o who_o be_v moral_o sick_a and_o restore_v we_o unto_o a_o life_n of_o virtue_n if_o command_n here_o must_v signify_v intercession_n and_o supplication_n your_o church_n will_v do_v well_o and_o wise_o to_o set_v forth_o a_o new_a dictionary_n to_o interpret_v word_n and_o sentence_n not_o after_o the_o common_a sense_n and_o signification_n of_o they_o but_o after_o the_o roman_a gloss_n mean_o while_o a_o impartial_a judge_n must_v needs_o conclude_v these_o interpretation_n to_o be_v force_v only_o to_o salve_v the_o inconvenience_n and_o absurdity_n of_o such_o prayer_n and_o if_o your_o church_n have_v design_v only_o to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n for_o their_o intercession_n with_o god_n by_o their_o prayer_n she_o will_v have_v make_v use_n of_o more_o humble_a and_o suitable_a expression_n but_o make_v the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n to_o consist_v as_o well_o in_o their_o merit_n as_o in_o their_o prayer_n call_v upon_o they_o as_o well_o for_o their_o patronage_n as_o their_o 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son_n and_o of_o mercy_n to_o the_o virgin_n mother_n your_o florentin_n archbishop_n tell_v we_o that_o upon_o the_o assumption_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n into_o heaven_n as_o your_o doctor_n have_v careful_o imprint_v that_o belief_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o credulous_a people_n the_o whole_a person_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n both_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v take_v up_o into_o heaven_n i_o say_v we_o be_v tell_v that_o when_o she_o be_v translate_v into_o heaven_n the_o seraphim_n attend_v upon_o she_o and_o earnest_o solicit_v her_o stay_n and_o society_n with_o their_o sublime_a order_n but_o she_o deliberate_o answer_v solum_fw-la answer_v non_fw-fr est_fw-fr honum_fw-la hominem_fw-la esse_fw-la solum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o good_a the_o man_n shall_v be_v alone_o mean_v her_o son_n and_o that_o she_o must_v assist_v he_o in_o the_o redemtion_n of_o god_n people_n by_o her_o compassion_n and_o in_o their_o glorification_n by_o her_o intercession_n that_o when_o for_o the_o iniquity_n of_o the_o world_n her_o son_n shall_v be_v ready_a to_o destory_n the_o earth_n a_o second_o time_n with_o a_o flood_n she_o may_v appear_v as_o the_o bow_n in_o the_o cloud_n to_o oppose_v his_o fury_n and_o mind_n he_o of_o his_o covenant_n and_o promise_n these_o be_v the_o luxuriant_a fancy_n of_o your_o archbishop_n suitable_a hereunto_o i_o read_v of_o sanct._n of_o vide_fw-la chemnit_fw-la exam_fw-la trid._n council_n p._n 3._o the_o invoc_n sanct._n picture_n in_o your_o temple_n represent_v christ_n in_o his_o indignation_n cast_v dart_n and_o thunderbolt_n and_o the_o bless_a virgin_n stand_v between_o his_o wrath_n and_o sinful_a man_n and_o receive_v the_o dart_n into_o her_o bosom_n phil._n still_o you_o return_v to_o the_o fancy_n of_o private_a doctor_n and_o painter_n your_o promise_a more_o authentic_a proof_n theoph._n what_o think_v you_o of_o that_o great_a promise_n make_v to_o uphold_v man_n immediate_o after_o his_o fall_n concern_v christ_n the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n who_o shall_v break_v the_o serpent_n head_n that_o be_v overcome_v the_o devil_n and_o all_o infernal_a power_n your_o vulgar_a translation_n which_o must_v be_v more_o authentic_a than_o the_o original_a read_v the_o pronoun_n in_o the_o feminine_a 3._o feminine_a ipsa_fw-la conteret_fw-la caput_fw-la serpentis_fw-la gen._n 3._o she_o shall_v bruise_v his_o head_n instead_o of_o he_o shall_v bruise_v as_o the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o septuagint_n read_v it_o and_o hereupon_o your_o doctor_n refer_v the_o promise_n unto_o the_o virgin_n mary_n as_o though_o in_o all_o thing_n she_o must_v have_v the_o pre-eminence_n phil._n bellarmin_n show_v how_o the_o vulgar_a translation_n vary_v 12._o vary_v tom._n 1._o lib._n 2._o de_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la c._n 12._o he_o have_v see_v a_o copy_n which_o read_v it_o likewise_o in_o the_o masculine_a theoph._n what_o he_o have_v search_v and_o find_v we_o know_v not_o but_o your_o translation_n general_o run_v in_o the_o feminine_a and_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o latin_a father_n be_v mislead_v by_o the_o vulgar_a translation_n take_v it_o in_o the_o feminine_a and_o upon_o that_o same_o account_v your_o doctor_n refer_v the_o prophecyto_o the_o virgin_n phil._n bellarmin_n show_v in_o the_o second_o place_n that_o he_o see_v a_o hebrew_n copy_n which_o have_v the_o feminine_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theoph._n this_o observation_n be_v like_o the_o former_a upon_o some_o corrupt_a copy_n against_o the_o general_a read_n of_o the_o hebrew_n text._n and_o he_o will_v leave_v the_o scripture_n altogether_o upon_o uncertainty_n that_o their_o translation_n may_v not_o be_v liable_a to_o reprehension_n phil._n he_o refer_v to_o chrysostom_n a_o father_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n who_o he_o say_v read_v it_o in_o the_o feminine_a theoph._n he_o do_v so_o after_o his_o accustumed_a manner_n to_o deceive_v his_o reader_n for_o it_o be_v manifest_v the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o homil._n 17._o in_o gen._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n read_v it_o in_o the_o masculine_a perhaps_o here_o also_o the_o cardinal_n consult_v some_o latin_a translation_n of_o chrysostom_n which_o may_v serve_v his_o turn_n he_o make_v some_o other_o inconsiderable_a plea_n to_o justify_v the_o vulgar_a read_n chief_o because_o of_o this_o modern_a reference_n unto_o our_o lady_n whereas_o some_o father_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o greek_a follow_v the_o vulgar_a translation_n and_o yet_o as_o i_o can_v find_v never_o reflect_v upon_o the_o virgin_n mary_n in_o that_o promise_n only_o your_o new_a doctor_n who_o many_o of_o they_o have_v knowledge_n of_o the_o tongue_n sufficient_a to_o discern_v the_o error_n of_o the_o translation_n yet_o please_v themselves_o much_o therewith_o and_o make_v their_o advantage_n of_o the_o error_n to_o improve_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o lady_n and_o make_v she_o the_o prime_a subject_n of_o that_o grand_a prophecy_n by_o this_o way_n they_o may_v justify_v the_o petition_n of_o
you_o put_v the_o poor_a minister_a angel_n out_o of_o office_n delegate_a their_o ministry_n and_o power_n unto_o the_o saint_n triumphant_a and_o yet_o i_o can_v let_v pass_n without_o a_o just_a indignation_n and_o censure_v these_o forementioned_a threat_n in_o the_o pope_n bull_n and_o letter_n that_o the_o indignation_n of_o our_o great_a god_n and_o of_o his_o two_o apostle_n peter_n and_o paul_n shall_v be_v threaten_v together_o as_o though_o one_o be_v as_o much_o to_o be_v fear_v as_o the_o other_o and_o so_o likewise_o for_o the_o confer_v of_o blessing_n and_o the_o return_n of_o thanks_o they_o be_v direct_v to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n it_o be_v bellarmin_n close_a in_o every_o tome_n virgini_fw-la tome_n laus_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o beatae_fw-la virgini_fw-la praise_v be_v give_v to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o so_o all_o the_o jesuit_n conclude_v nay_o gregory_n de_fw-fr valentia_n put_v the_o virgin_n before_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o close_a 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almighty_a god_n and_o the_o angel_n or_o any_o other_o creature_n in_o our_o supplication_n or_o benediction_n or_o threat_n or_o confidence_n apr._n confidence_n oratione_fw-la 4._o contra_fw-la apr._n great_a athanasius_n prove_v the_o unity_n of_o god_n the_o father_n and_o of_o christ_n because_o the_o apostle_n have_v join_v they_o in_o one_o prayer_n god_n himself_o and_o our_o father_n and_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n direct_v our_o way_n unto_o you_o 1._o thess_n 3._o 11_o and_o he_o proceed_v no_o man_n must_v pray_v to_o receive_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o father_n and_o from_o the_o angel_n or_o any_o other_o creature_n 〈◊〉_d creature_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o may_v any_o one_o say_v god_n and_o the_o angel_n give_v thou_o this_o upon_o this_o ground_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v he_o conclude_v in_o jacob_n blessing_n upon_o the_o son_n of_o joseph_n that_o the_o angel_n stand_v for_o the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o angel_n of_o his_o counsel_n as_o the_o 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authority_n sufficient_a unto_o the_o undiscerning_a people_n to_o ask_v all_o blessing_n from_o the_o saint_n and_o to_o hope_v from_o they_o to_o receive_v blessing_n as_o confident_o as_o from_o almighty_a god_n phil._n no_o they_o be_v teach_v to_o expect_v blessing_n from_o god_n for_o the_o sake_n and_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n theoph._n and_o they_o be_v teach_v and_o accustom_a to_o ask_v blessing_n of_o the_o saint_n without_o any_o such_o limitation_n but_o in_o a_o absolute_a manner_n phil._n if_o the_o limitation_n be_v not_o express_v it_o must_v be_v imply_v theoph._n it_o seem_v the_o ground_n of_o your_o people_n error_n be_v express_v when_o the_o hymn_n and_o prayer_n of_o your_o church_n ask_v grace_n and_o protection_n of_o the_o saint_n without_o the_o reserve_n that_o they_o shall_v procure_v they_o by_o their_o intercession_n but_o that_o which_o shall_v undeceive_v they_o be_v suppress_v or_o as_o you_o will_v have_v it_o imply_v that_o what_o they_o 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mundi_fw-la scala_fw-la coeli_fw-la thronus_fw-la dei_fw-la janua_n parad._n etc._n etc._n o_o queen_n of_o the_o world_n the_o ladder_n