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A00916 An adioynder to the supplement of Father Robert Persons his discussion of M. Doctor Barlowes ansvvere &c. Contayning a discouery, and confutation of very many foule absurdityes, falsities, and lyes in M. D. Andrewes his Latin booke intituled, Responsio ad apologiam Cardinalis Bellarmini &c. An answere to the apology of Card. Bellarmine. Written by F.T. ... Also an appendix touching a register alleaged by M. Franc. Mason for the lawfull ordayning of Protestant bishops in Q. Elizabeths raigne. Fitzherbert, Thomas, 1552-1640. 1613 (1613) STC 11022; ESTC S102269 348,102 542

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this_o i_o hope_v may_v suffice_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v so_o far_o from_o impugn_v these_o three_o pope_n that_o he_o acknowledge_v their_o supreme_a and_o universal_a authority_n and_o consequent_o that_o they_o be_v head_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n notwithstanding_o m._n andrews_n his_o peremptory_a assertion_n of_o the_o contrary_a which_o therefore_o may_v pass_v for_o another_o untruth_n 54._o whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o he_o forget_v himself_o much_o more_o when_o he_o so_o confident_o affirm_v in_o the_o first_o point_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n in_o s._n augustine_n time_n be_v but_o only_a head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o i_o note_v before_o for_o the_o first_o of_o the_o 3._o untruth_n though_o i_o remit_v the_o particular_a answer_n thereof_o until_o i_o have_v discover_v the_o other_o two_o because_o they_o will_v not_o a_o little_a help_n to_o the_o discovery_n of_o the_o first_o as_o 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liberius_n 55._o we_o read_v in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n that_o certain_a arian_n heretic_n be_v excommunicate_v liberius_n and_o depose_v from_o their_o bishopric_n by_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n of_o the_o east_n church_n send_v their_o legate_n to_o pope_n lib●rius_n crave_v to_o be_v restore_v by_o his_o authority_n and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o they_o crafty_o dissemble_v their_o heresy_n and_o feign_v to_o be_v repentant_a make_v open_a profession_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n according_a to_o the_o belief_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a they_o obtain_v his_o letter_n for_o their_o restitution_n 82._o which_o they_o present_v at_o their_o return_n in_o a_o synod_n hold_v at_o tyana_n and_o by_o virtue_n thereof_o be_v restore_v as_o s._n basil_n witness_v say_v that_o eustathius_n bishop_n of_o sebasta_n who_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o that_o legacy_n bring_v a_o epistle_n from_o liberius_n by_o the_o which_o he_o shall_v be_v restore_v and_o when_o he_o have_v present_v it_o to_o the_o synod_n at_o tyana_n in_o locum_fw-la suum_fw-la restitutus_fw-la est_fw-la he_o be_v restore_v to_o his_o place_n so_o he_o 56._o whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o liberius_n extend_v further_o then_o to_o his_o own_o church_n of_o rome_n see_v he_o can_v restore_v bishop_n to_o their_o seat_n in_o the_o east_n church_n as_o also_o his_o predecessor_n pope_n julius_n have_v do_v not_o long_o before_o upon_o the_o appeal_n of_o the_o famous_a athanasius_n depose_v by_o the_o arian_n and_o of_o paulus_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n marcellus_n bishop_n of_o ancyra_n asclepa_n bishop_n of_o gaza_n and_o lucian_n bishop_n of_o hadrianopolis_n all_o of_o they_o unjust_o expel_v from_o their_o seat_n upon_o diverse_a pretence_n who_o cause_n julius_n discuss_v say_v the_o story_n tamquam_fw-la omnium_fw-la curam_fw-la gerens_fw-la propter_fw-la propriae_fw-la sedis_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la singulis_fw-la reddidit_fw-la svas_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la as_o have_v a_o care_n of_o all_o for_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o own_o seat_n restore_v their_o church_n to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o 15._o so_o say_v sozom●n_v in_o the_o tripartite_a history_n which_o i_o have_v think_v good_a to_o add_v to_o the_o former_a example_n of_o liberius_n for_o although_o it_o fall_v not_o out_o in_o s._n augustine_n time_n whereof_o i_o now_o special_o treat_v yet_o it_o be_v not_o above_o 14._o year_n before_o he_o and_o therefore_o may_v well_o be_v apply_v to_o his_o time_n as_o the_o eve_n to_o the_o feast_n beside_o that_o do_v demonstrate_v what_o be_v the_o belief_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n at_o that_o time_n concern_v the_o supreme_a dignity_n of_o the_o roman_a sea_n see_v that_o not_o only_o other_o catholic_a bishop_n but_o also_o athanasius_n himself_o who_o be_v the_o mirror_n of_o sanctity_n zeal_n and_o integrity_n in_o that_o age_n have_v recourse_n thereto_o as_o to_o the_o supreme_a tribunal_n on_o earth_n for_o the_o reparation_n of_o his_o wrong_n but_o now_o to_o
proceed_v 57_o after_o liberius_n succeed_v damasus_n damasus_n who_o universal_a authority_n be_v sufficient_o testify_v even_o by_o the_o african_a bishop_n who_o m._n andrew_n make_v most_o opposite_a to_o the_o roman_a sea_n this_o may_v be_v verify_v by_o a_o epistle_n of_o 3._o counsel_n of_o africa_n and_o the_o archbishop_n stephanus_n who_o write_v to_o pope_n damasus_n give_v he_o the_o title_n of_o most_o bless_a lord_n raise_v to_o the_o height_n of_o apostolical_a dignity_n damas._n holy_a father_n of_o father_n damasus_n pope_n and_o chief_a bishop_n of_o prelate_n and_o in_o the_o epistle_n itself_o they_o do_v clear_o acknowledge_v the_o supremacy_n of_o his_o sea_n complain_v of_o certain_a bishop_n their_o neighbour_n who_o without_o his_o consent_n or_o knowledge_n have_v presume_v to_o depose_v bishop_n which_o they_o say_v be_v against_o the_o decree_n of_o all_o the_o father_n and_o ancient_a rule_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o which_o say_v they_o sancitum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la quicquid_fw-la horum_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o remotis_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v decree_v that_o whatsoever_o shall_v be_v treat_v though_o in_o remote_a and_o far_o distant_a province_n concern_v these_o matter_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o deposition_n of_o bishop_n and_o other_o important_a affiayre_n of_o the_o church_n the_o same_o shall_v not_o be_v receive_v nisi_fw-la ad_fw-la notitiam_fw-la almae_fw-la sedis_fw-la vestrae_fw-la fuisset_fw-la deductum_fw-la etc._n etc._n except_o it_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o your_o holy_a seat_n to_o the_o end_n that_o whatsoever_o shall_v be_v resolve_v may_v be_v confirm_v with_o the_o authority_n thereof_o thus_o write_v they_o timoth._n and_o much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n call_v he_o also_o ipsum_fw-la apostolicum_fw-la verticem_fw-la praesulum_fw-la the_o very_a apostolical_a top_n or_o head_n of_o prelate_n 58._o and_o therefore_o no_o marvel_n that_o another_o father_n of_o the_o same_o time_n 2._o call_v he_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n expound_v these_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o timothy_n ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la domus_fw-la dei_fw-la vivi_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereupon_o he_o say_v ecclesia_fw-la domus_fw-la dei_fw-la dicitur_fw-la cvius_fw-la rector_n hodie_fw-la est_fw-la damasus_n the_o church_n be_v call_v the_o house_n of_o god_n the_o governor_n whereof_o at_o this_o day_n be_v damasus_n so_o he_o whereto_o i_o may_v add_v a_o notable_a testimony_n of_o s_o hierome_n who_o write_v also_o to_o damasus_n to_o know_v of_o he_o with_o who_o he_o may_v communicate_v in_o syria_n and_o whether_o he_o may_v use_v the_o word_n hypostasis_fw-la affirm_v that_o he_o hold_v communion_n with_o his_o beatitude_n that_o be_v to_o say_v say_v he_o with_o peter_n chair_n and_o that_o he_o know_v the_o church_n to_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o rock_n infer_v thereupon_o that_o whosoever_o do_v eat_v the_o lamb_n out_o of_o that_o house_n 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be_v give_v i_o by_o your_o letter_n either_o to_o use_v or_o to_o forbear_v the_o word_n hypostasis_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o also_o that_o you_o will_v signify_v unto_o i_o with_o who_o i_o may_v communicate_v at_o antioch_n for_o that_o the_o campense_n and_o the_o heretic_n call_v tharsenses_n be_v unite_v together_o nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la ambiunt_fw-la quam_fw-la ut_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la communionis_fw-la vestrae_fw-la fulti_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v seek_v nothing_o more_o or_o with_o great_a ambition_n then_o that_o be_v uphold_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o your_o communion_n they_o may_v use_v the_o word_n hypostasis_fw-la in_o the_o old_a sense_n so_o he_o 60._o wherein_o two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v the_o one_o that_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o ask_v counsel_n or_o advise_v of_o pope_n damasus_n but_o a_o definitive_a sentence_n ut_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la detur_fw-la that_o authority_n be_v give_v he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v that_o damasus_n shall_v by_o his_o letter_n determine_v and_o ordain_v what_o s._n hierome_n shall_v do_v in_o those_o case_n the_o other_o be_v that_o not_o only_o the_o catholic_n in_o the_o east_n part_n as_o s._n hierome_n and_o the_o egyptian_n who_o he_o also_o call_v the_o colleague_n of_o damasus_n but_o also_o the_o heretyk_n seek_v to_o fortify_v themselves_o by_o the_o communion_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a whereupon_o two_o thing_n do_v also_o follow_v evident_o the_o one_o that_o damasus_n have_v power_n to_o decide_v and_o determine_v controversy_n even_o in_o the_o east_n church_n and_o the_o other_o that_o his_o authority_n be_v not_o restreyn_v to_o his_o own_o church_n at_o rome_n as_o m._n andrews_n seem_v to_o suppose_v but_o be_v universal_a and_o therefore_o acknowledge_v as_o well_o in_o the_o east_n as_o in_o the_o west_n 61._o this_o may_v be_v notable_o confirm_v by_o the_o restitution_n of_o peter_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n to_o his_o seat_n who_o immediate_o succeed_v 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power_n give_v he_o by_o the_o key_n and_o by_o his_o pastoral_n commission_n which_o do_v import_v authority_n power_n jurisdiction_n and_o government_n 20._o therefore_o m._n andrews_n deny_v s._n peter_n preeminence_n in_o authority_n and_o government_n deny_v the_o primacy_n that_o the_o father_n teach_v and_o reduce_v it_o only_o to_o a_o bare_a name_n without_o effect_n and_o so_o do_v nothing_o else_o indeed_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yea_o and_o if_o we_o well_o consider_v what_o he_o say_v we_o shall_v find_v that_o he_o grant_v not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o very_a word_n or_o name_n of_o primacy_n or_o at_o least_o if_o he_o do_v he_o contradict_v himself_o for_o what_o be_v trow_v you_o those_o voculae_fw-la which_o he_o except_v from_o his_o grant_n when_o he_o say_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o place_n of_o the_o father_n which_o may_v not_o present_o be_v grant_v nisi_fw-la voculam_fw-la fortè_fw-la habent_fw-la etc._n etc._n except_o some_o 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be_v a_o monarchy_n and_o that_o the_o power_n thereof_o do_v extend_v itself_o to_o temporal_a thing_n in_o such_o sort_n and_o for_o such_o reason_n as_o i_o have_v touch_v in_o the_o first_o 21._o chapter_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n and_o handle_v at_o large_a in_o my_o 69._o supplement_n yet_o it_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v call_v temporal_a or_o earthly_a otherwise_o then_o as_o s._n hilary_n call_v s._n peter_n judicial_a sentence_n terrena_fw-la iudicia_fw-la when_o he_o say_v terrena_fw-la eius_fw-la iudicia_fw-la sunt_fw-la caelestia_fw-la his_o earthly_a judgement_n that_o be_v to_o say_v trinit_fw-la his_o sentence_n give_v on_o earth_n be_v heavenly_a 22._o and_o so_o i_o say_v that_o albeit_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n may_v in_o this_o sense_n be_v call_v earthly_a to_o wit_n because_o it_o be_v exercise_v upon_o earth_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o earthly_a or_o temporal_a but_o spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a both_o because_o it_o be_v a_o spiritual_a and_o 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themselves_o rather_o than_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o tribunal_n and_o judgement_n of_o infidel_n degree_n yea_o m._n andrew_n must_v acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a temporal_a yea_o a_o pecuniary_a pastor_n because_o in_o his_o spiritual_a court_n he_o use_v pecuniary_a mulct_n and_o other_o temporal_a punishment_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o in_o the_o first_o 21._o chapter_n by_o all_o this_o it_o appear_v that_o m._n andrews_n deny_v not_o the_o spiritual_a but_o as_o he_o term_v it_o the_o earthly_a monarchy_n and_o temporal_a primacy_n of_o peter_n deny_v nothing_o else_o but_o his_o own_o vain_a and_o idle_a manner_n of_o speech_n express_v only_o a_o foolish_a fancy_n of_o he_o and_o a_o very_a chimaera_n that_o have_v no_o be_v in_o rerum_fw-la natura_fw-la and_o so_o he_o do_v still_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o be_v therefore_o true_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o wrangler_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n 23._o and_o to_o the_o end_n this_o may_v yet_o appear_v more_o manifest_o i_o will_v examine_v his_o answer_n &_o objection_n touch_v another_o point_n in_o controversy_n betwixt_o he_o and_o we_o whereby_o we_o shall_v also_o see_v how_o notable_o he_o wrangle_v cavil_v iuggle_v and_o tryfle_v and_o because_o the_o matter_n and_o his_o manner_n of_o answer_v will_v require_v some_o long_a discourse_n i_o will_v make_v it_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o three_o next_o chapter_n a_o further_a manifestation_n of_o master_n andrews_n his_o trifle_a wrangle_a and_o fraudulent_a humour_n by_o his_o answer_n to_o other_o place_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n which_o he_o devyde_v into_o three_o rank_n whereof_o the_o two_o first_o be_v examine_v in_o this_o chapter_n chap._n vi_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n undertake_v in_o his_o apology_n 12._o to_o treat_v of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n because_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n condemn_v the_o use_n cavil_n and_o practice_v of_o it_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n m._n andrew_n take_v exception_n to_o the_o cardinal_n for_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n porrò_fw-la and_o say_v that_o he_o fight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n because_o he_o promise_v to_o treat_v the_o intercessione_n sanctorum_fw-la of_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n whereas_o that_o which_o the_o king_n condemn_v say_v m._n andrew_n be_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n wherein_o he_o also_o note_v this_o difference_n that_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n be_v their_o work_n and_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o be_v we_o and_o that_o the_o king_n deny_v not_o that_o which_o the_o cardinal_n prove_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o but_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v invocate_v or_o pray_v unto_o which_o say_v m._n andrews_n the_o cardinal_n prove_v not_o 2._o and_o he_o please_v himself_o so_o much_o with_o this_o devise_n that_o he_o do_v often_o inculcate_v the_o same_o urge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n may_v be_v invocate_v yea_o produce_v a_o text_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o none_o can_v be_v invocate_v but_o god_n verun_v for_o terret_fw-la nos_fw-la apostolus_fw-la say_v he_o utcumque_fw-la vos_fw-la hominem_fw-la habetis_fw-la pro_fw-la levi_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n do_v terrify_v we_o how_o light_n soever_o you_o make_v of_o the_o man_n when_o he_o ask_v this_o question_n 10._o quomodo_fw-la invocabunt_fw-la eum_fw-la in_fw-la quem_fw-la non_fw-la crediderunt_fw-la how_o shall_v they_o invocate_v he_o in_o who_o they_o believe_v not_o collection_n for_o you_o perhaps_o have_v find_v a_o way_n how_o a_o man_n may_v invocate_v those_o in_o who_o you_o yourselves_o say_v you_o do_v not_o believe_v whereas_o he_o to_o wit_n the_o apostle_n seem_v then_o to_o have_v find_v no_o way_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n wherein_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o one_o special_a reason_n why_o he_o reject_v our_o
doctrine_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v for_o that_o we_o do_v invocate_v they_o because_o in_o his_o conceit_n invocation_n be_v so_o proper_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o none_o can_v be_v invocate_v but_o he_o and_o if_o he_o do_v not_o conceive_v so_o why_o do_v he_o insist_v so_o much_o upon_o the_o word_n invocate_v yea_o and_o seek_v to_o terrify_v we_o with_o his_o terret_fw-la none_o apostolus_fw-la charge_v we_o to_o make_v light_n of_o he_o because_o we_o invocate_v they_o in_o who_o we_o believe_v not_o that_o be_v to_o say_v those_o who_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v for_o god_n 3._o but_o a_o man_n may_v wonder_v how_o this_o great_a doctor_n can_v so_o gross_o err_v in_o a_o matter_n so_o evident_a as_o this_o see_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n immediate_o go_v before_o do_v manifest_o show_v that_o he_o speak_v there_o of_o a_o invocation_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o as_o to_o our_o chief_a lord_n which_o kind_n of_o invocation_n be_v not_o communicable_a to_o 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necessary_a for_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o though_o it_o be_v not_o the_o faith_n that_o we_o have_v in_o god_n as_o in_o our_o chief_a lord_n and_o creator_n and_o that_o we_o may_v have_v faith_n in_o saint_n m._n andrew_n may_v learn_v in_o the_o apostle_n himself_o who_o commend_v the_o charity_n philem_n and_o faith_n which_o philemon_n have_v in_o domino_fw-la jesu_fw-la &_o in_o omnes_fw-la sanctos_fw-la in_o our_o lord_n jesus_n and_o in_o all_o saint_n upon_o which_o word_n s._n hierome_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o that_o epistle_n discourse_v ample_o philem_fw-la prove_v that_o we_o may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v faith_n in_o saint_n 5._o therefore_o m._n andrew_n be_v to_o understand_v for_o the_o full_a answer_n of_o his_o objection_n that_o as_o there_o be_v a_o honour_n and_o glory_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n only_o as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v 1._o say_v soli_fw-la deo_fw-la honour_n &_o gloria_fw-la honour_n and_o glory_n be_v to_o god_n alone_o and_o 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citantur_fw-la sed_fw-la nihil_fw-la ad_fw-la rem_fw-la which_o be_v both_o true_a father_n and_o true_o cite_v but_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n thus_o say_v m._n andrew_n in_o the_o first_o rank_n he_o place_v s._n basil_n out_o of_o who_o oration_n upon_o the_o forty_o martyr_n the_o cardinal_n allege_v these_o word_n qui_fw-la aliqua_fw-la premitur_fw-la angustia_fw-la etc._n etc._n whosoever_o be_v press_v or_o vex_v with_o any_o grief_n martyr_n let_v he_o have_v recourse_n to_o these_o and_o he_o that_o be_v joyful_a or_o merry_a let_v he_o pray_v to_o these_o the_o one_o that_o he_o may_v be_v deliver_v from_o his_o grief_n and_o the_o other_o that_o he_o may_v be_v conserve_v in_o his_o mirth_n thus_o far_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v s._n basil_n in_o that_o place_n 9_o whereto_o m._n andrews_n give_v two_o answer_n answer_v in_o the_o first_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o declare_v what_o be_v do_v and_o another_o to_o determine_v what_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o other_o he_o take_v exception_n to_o the_o translation_n of_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o greek_a which_o late_a point_n i_o think_v good_a to_o examine_v first_o because_o the_o other_o will_v be_v afterward_o the_o more_o easy_o discuss_v now_o then_o m._n andrews_n will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o the_o cardinal_n have_v use_v great_a fraud_n and_o corruption_n in_o cite_v s._n basils_n word_n and_o that_o he_o have_v falsify_v the_o greek_a text_n whereas_o he_o know_v well_o that_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v true_o the_o latin_a translation_n which_o also_o though_o it_o do_v not_o render_v the_o greek_a word_n for_o word_n yet_o give_v the_o true_a sense_n and_o mean_v thereof_o the_o corruption_n which_o m._n andrews_n impute_v to_o the_o cardinal_n consist_v in_o these_o word_n hos_fw-la oret_fw-la let_v he_o pray_v to_o these_o which_o say_v m._n andrews_n be_v not_o so_o in_o the_o greek_a either_o for_o the_o word_n or_o sense_n the_o word_n in_o the_o greek_a he_o say_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o run_v to_o these_o wherein_o he_o also_o note_v that_o the_o manner_n of_o speech_n be_v different_a as_o that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o greek_a any_o precept_n or_o commandment_n to_o pray_v or_o run_v but_o only_o a_o declaration_n of_o a_o fact_n to_o wit_n that_o man_n do_v then_o use_v to_o have_v recourse_n and_o run_v to_o the_o martyr_n beside_o that_o he_o make_v hos_fw-la these_o martyr_n to_o signfy_v the_o place_n where_o their_o memory_n or_o monument_n be_v 10._o and_o therefore_o he_o expound_v verè_fw-la ad_fw-la hos_fw-la currit_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o ad_fw-la eorum_fw-la memorias_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o their_o memory_n where_o he_o may_v pray_v unto_o god_n who_o by_o miracle_n then_o do_v there_o show_v that_o he_o do_v hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o his_o suppliant_n so_o he_o and_o then_o add_v further_a thuss_n and_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o doubt_n hereof_o he_o to_o wit_n basil_n add_v present_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o devout_a woman_n make_v her_o prayer_n in_o this_o place_n and_o therefore_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o place_n and_o then_o to_o take_v away_o all_o scruple_n he_o say_v a_o little_a after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o let_v he_o pray_v to_o they_o nor_o let_v our_o prayer_n be_v make_v to_o they_o but_o with_o they_o thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n confound_v as_o you_o see_v hos_fw-la with_o hic_fw-la the_o martyr_n with_o the_o place_n where_o they_o be_v honour_v and_o seek_v to_o destroy_v ad_fw-la hos_fw-la to_o these_o by_o cum_fw-la hijs_fw-la with_o these_o absurd_o impugn_v one_o truth_n by_o another_o as_o though_o these_o can_v not_o all_o stand_v together_o whereas_o s._n basil_n touch_v all_o those_o three_o thing_n several_o pass_v from_o one_o to_o another_o 11._o and_o to_o the_o end_n that_o this_o may_v be_v evident_a i_o crave_v thy_o patience_n good_a reader_n while_o i_o lay_v down_o unto_o thou_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o s._n basils_n discourse_n touch_v these_o 3_o point_n saint_n first_o then_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o say_v hi_o sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la nostram_fw-la regionem_fw-la administrant_fw-la etc._n etc._n these_o be_v they_o which_o govern_v our_o country_n and_o like_a tower_n or_o fortress_n unite_v together_o do_v give_v we_o security_n against_o our_o enemy_n and_o then_o speak_v not_o only_o of_o they_o but_o also_o of_o divers_a place_n where_o they_o be_v honour_v and_o serve_v in_o their_o relic_n he_o add_v nec_fw-la in_o uno_fw-la loco_fw-la se_fw-la clauserunt_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o multis_fw-la locis_fw-la hospitio_fw-la excepti_fw-la multorum_fw-la patrias_n ornaverunt_fw-la they_o have_v not_o shut_v themselves_o up_o in_o one_o place_n but_o be_v receive_v as_o guest_n in_o many_o place_n they_o have_v adorn_v the_o country_n of_o many_o man_n afterward_o he_o speak_v both_o of_o the_o particular_a temple_n and_o church_n in_o caesarea_n dedicate_v to_o those_o martyr_n where_o it_o seem_v he_o make_v his_o oration_n or_o sermon_n and_o also_o of_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o beneficium_fw-la say_v he_o fratres_fw-la dilectissimi_fw-la &c._n &c._n most_o love_a brethren_n we_o have_v this_o benefit_n and_o perpetual_a favour_n of_o almighty_a god_n here_o be_v a_o ready_a help_n for_o christian_n to_o wit_n a_o church_n of_o martyr_n a_o army_n of_o the_o triumphant_a a_o quyre_v of_o those_o that_o praise_n god_n so_o he_o 12._o then_o he_o continue_v his_o speech_n of_o the_o martyr_n signify_v that_o whereas_o they_o be_v wont_a to_o use_v great_a diligence_n to_o find_v out_o some_o one_o intercessor_n for_o they_o quadraginta_fw-la say_v he_o sunt_fw-la hi_o etc._n etc._n these_o martyr_n be_v forty_o pray_v altogether_o for_o see_v god_n be_v where_o one_o or_o two_o be_v gather_v in_o his_o name_n who_o can_v doubt_v that_o god_n be_v present_a where_o there_o be_v forty_o he_o that_o be_v afflict_v which_o any_o grief_n have_v refuge_n or_o recourse_n to_o these_o and_o he_o which_o be_v joyful_a or_o merry_a do_v run_v to_o these_o etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v s._n basil_n speak_v sometime_o as_o you_o see_v of_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o and_o sometime_o of_o the_o place_n where_o their_o relic_n be_v reserve_v &_o they_o honour_v in_o their_o relic_n 13._o and_o therefore_o he_o pass_v also_o now_o from_o they_o again_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o place_n and_o to_o show_v withal_o the_o notable_a effect_n and_o the_o temporal_a benefit_n which_o the_o people_n may_v expect_v by_o their_o recourse_n to_o the_o martyr_n say_v hic_fw-la mulier_fw-la pia_fw-la orans_fw-la pro_fw-la filijs_fw-la auditur_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o the_o devout_a woman_n pray_v for_o her_o child_n be_v hear_v and_o crave_v a_o safe_a return_n for_o her_o husband_n when_o he_o be_v in_o his_o journey_n and_o health_n for_o he_o when_o he_o be_v sick_a and_o then_o he_o conclude_v concern_v the_o martyr_n themselves_o cum_fw-la his_fw-la ergo_fw-la martyribus_fw-la nostrae_fw-la fiant_fw-la preces_fw-la therefore_o let_v we_o pray_v with_o these_o martyr_n in_o all_o which_o you_o see_v he_o exhort_v the_o people_n not_o only_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o these_o martyr_n in_o their_o necessity_n but_o also_o final_o to_o pray_v with_o they_o because_o our_o prayer_n to_o saint_n do_v little_a avayle_v we_o except_o we_o also_o pray_v to_o god_n for_o our_o self_n &_o then_o be_v our_o prayer_n much_o more_o potent_a and_o acceptable_a to_o god_n when_o they_o concur_v with_o the_o prayer_n of_o his_o saint_n and_o servant_n and_o be_v fortify_v and_o strengthen_v by_o they_o foolish_a 14._o now_o then_o i_o remit_v it_o here_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o indifferent_a reader_n whether_o m._n andrews_n have_v any_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n to_o confound_v hos_fw-la with_o hic_fw-la &_o to_o destroy_v ad_fw-la hos_fw-la cum_fw-la he_o see_v that_o every_o one_o of_o these_o have_v a_o clear_a and_o different_a sense_n according_a to_o the_o different_a nature_n and_o property_n of_o the_o word_n beside_o that_o m._n andrew_n be_v totoo_o gross_a and_o foolish_a in_o make_v ad_fw-la hos_fw-la to_o signify_v in_o hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la see_v that_o present_o after_o he_o himself_o make_v come_v his_o to_o signify_v with_o these_o martyr_n for_o if_o cum_fw-la his_o or_o cum_fw-la illis_fw-la with_o these_o or_o with_o they_o do_v signify_v the_o martyr_n themselves_o what_o reason_n have_v he_o to_o make_v ad_fw-la ●os_v a_o little_a before_o to_o signify_v the_o place_n especial_o see_v that_o high_a be_v clear_o refer_v to_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o throughout_o the_o whole_a context_n as_o you_o have_v evident_o see_v 15._o but_o will_v you_o hear_v he_o yet_o further_o
confute_v his_o own_o gloss_n himself_o and_o see_v he_o trip_v as_o i_o may_v say_v in_o his_o own_o play_n you_o shall_v therefore_o understand_v that_o the_o cardinal_n have_v allege_v that_o part_n of_o s._n basils_n discourse_n which_o you_o have_v hear_v to_o prove_v prayer_n to_o saint_n add_v those_o other_o word_n which_o i_o have_v also_o by_o occasion_n lay_v down_o a_o little_a before_o to_o wit_n he_o sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la nostram_fw-la regionem_fw-la administrant_fw-la etc._n etc._n these_o be_v they_o who_o govern_v our_o country_n and_o like_o tower_n or_o fortress_n give_v we_o security_n against_o the_o incursion_n of_o enemy_n etc._n etc._n which_o word_n the_o cardinal_n cite_v to_o prove_v the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a relic_n 13._o and_o m._n andrew_n come_v to_o treat_v of_o that_o matter_n and_o to_o answer_v that_o place_n not_o past_o 3._o lea●es_n after_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a flat_o overthrow_v his_o own_o exposition_n autem_fw-la which_o you_o have_v hear_v say_v thus_o locum_fw-la basilij_fw-la a●●ert_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o cardinal_n bring_v a_o place_n of_o basil_n whereof_o it_o shall_v suffice_v to_o admonish_v you_o in_o one_o word_n the_o reader_n shall_v not_o find_v there_o any_o relic_n of_o martyr_n but_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o hij_fw-la sunt_fw-la inquit_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o say_v these_o be_v the_o word_n hij_fw-la can_v be_v refer_v to_o relic_n for_o the_o gender_n do_v not_o suffer_v it_o either_o in_o the_o latin_a where_o it_o be_v to_o be_v say_v have_fw-mi or_o in_o the_o greek_a where_o it_o be_v to_o be_v say_v haec_fw-la so_o that_o it_o can_v be_v refer_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v of_o the_o neuter_a gender_n so_o he_o 16._o if_o this_o than_o be_v true_a why_o do_v he_o in_o the_o former_a place_n make_v hos_fw-la those_o to_o signify_v memorias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la the_o memory_n or_o monument_n of_o martyr_n do_v the_o gender_n trow_v you_o suffer_v it_o either_o in_o the_o latin_a or_o in_o the_o greek_a can_v he_o make_v hij_fw-la or_o hos_fw-la which_o be_v masculine_a agree_v with_o memorias_fw-la of_o the_o feminine_a or_o with_o monumenta_fw-la of_o the_o neuter_a gender_n or_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o greek_a whereof_o the_o first_o be_v feminine_a and_o the_o other_o two_o neuter_n true_o he_o must_v either_o make_v a_o new_a grammar_n to_o maintain_v his_o construction_n in_o the_o former_a place_n or_o else_o retract_v his_o exposition_n and_o argument_n in_o the_o late_a 13._o so_o that_o you_o see_v how_o true_a it_o be_v which_o the_o latin_a proverb_n say_v oportet_fw-la mendacem_fw-la esse_fw-la memorem_fw-la it_o behoove_v a_o liar_n to_o have_v a_o good_a memory_n bellarmine_n 17._o but_o if_o m._n andrew_n will_v say_v that_o he_o may_v as_o well_o take_v hos_fw-la martyr_n for_o memorias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la in_o the_o former_a 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as_o the_o paynim_n do_v that_o a_o man_n can_v come_v immediate_o to_o god_n by_o prayer_n and_o devotion_n which_o we_o common_o use_v to_o do_v direct_v our_o prayer_n aright_o as_o well_o mental_a as_o vocal_a to_o god_n himself_o although_o we_o do_v also_o many_o time_n crave_v the_o help_n and_o assistance_n as_o well_o of_o man_n as_o of_o saint_n as_o a_o thing_n though_o not_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o salvation_n yet_o very_o convenient_a behooveful_a and_o profitable_a thereto_o which_o be_v no_o way_n contradict_v by_o this_o place_n 30._o for_o no_o man_n can_v with_o any_o reason_n imagine_v that_o the_o author_n of_o that_o commentary_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a profitable_a or_o needful_a to_o have_v a_o suffragatour_n or_o mediator_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o for_o so_o shall_v he_o have_v impugn_a a_o most_o know_a truth_n which_o m._n andrews_n neither_o will_n nor_o can_v deny_v i_o mean_v the_o mediation_n not_o only_o of_o saint_n for_o we_o and_o of_o one_o man_n for_o another_o both_o which_o m._n andrews_n grant_v but_o also_o of_o the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n for_o we_o all_o for_o if_o we_o have_v no_o need_n of_o either_o suffragatour_n or_o mediator_n to_o god_n but_o only_o of_o a_o devout_a mind_n because_o he_o know_v our_o heart_n and_o thought_n it_o follow_v that_o when_o we_o do_v devout_o serve_v god_n ourselves_o we_o need_v not_o the_o prayer_n either_o of_o other_o man_n or_o of_o saint_n or_o yet_o of_o christ_n himself_o and_o therefore_o let_v m._n andrews_n consider_v whether_o he_o will_v admit_v this_o inference_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v good_a if_o he_o will_v infer_v any_o thing_n upon_o this_o place_n against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n 31._o so_o as_o you_o see_v he_o have_v very_o impertinent_o allege_v this_o testimony_n to_o prove_v that_o s._n ambrose_n change_v his_o mind_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n for_o neither_o be_v the_o commentary_n obscure_a which_o he_o cite_v a_o undoubted_a work_n of_o s._n ambrose_n &_o consequent_o the_o sentence_n which_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o it_o be_v not_o nota_fw-la sententia_fw-la a_o know_a sentence_n of_o that_o holy_a father_n as_o he_o term_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o any_o thing_n to_o the_o purpose_n though_o it_o be_v he_o beside_o that_o we_o may_v note_v here_o a_o ordinary_a trick_n of_o a_o heretyke_a which_o be_v to_o seek_v to_o overthrow_v most_o evident_a and_o plain_a place_n by_o other_o that_o be_v more_o obscure_a and_o doubtful_a or_o subject_n to_o diverse_a interpretation_n for_o so_o do_v he_o here_o oppose_v this_o obscure_a and_o difficult_a place_n to_o a_o testimony_n which_o be_v so_o clear_a that_o he_o be_v force_v to_o reject_v s._n ambrose_n and_o make_v he_o no_o better_o than_o a_o blasphemous_a heretic_n for_o his_o doctrine_n therein_o and_o yet_o you_o see_v also_o that_o the_o place_n which_o he_o cite_v be_v understand_v secundum_fw-la subiectam_fw-la materiam_fw-la and_o according_a to_o the_o circumstance_n thereof_o make_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o he_o or_o against_o we_o and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o the_o former_a of_o the_o two_o place_n and_o his_o evil_a fortune_n and_o folly_n in_o the_o allegation_n thereof_o 32._o in_o the_o other_o sentence_n which_o he_o allege_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n ambrose_n change_v his_o mind_n touch_v prayer_n to_o saint_n he_o show_v more_o fraud_n than_o folly●_n the_o word_n be_v purpose_n tu_fw-la solus_fw-la domine_fw-la invocandus_fw-la es_fw-la thou_o only_o o_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v whereupon_o he_o will_v infer_v that_o no_o saint_n may_v be_v invocate_v that_o be_v to_o say_v pray_v unto_o but_o to_o omit_v that_o which_o i_o have_v sufficient_o treat_v before_o concern_v the_o word_n invocation_n whereon_o he_o so_o much_o rely_v i_o desire_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o note_v how_o he_o will_v cozen_v and_o abuse_v thou_o in_o the_o allegation_n of_o this_o place_n thou_o shall_v therefore_o understand_v that_o s._n ambrose_n in_o his_o funeral_n oration_n upon_o the_o death_n of_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n have_v declare_v his_o great_a virtue_n 3_o use_v indeed_o those_o word_n which_o m._n andrews_n cite_v but_o whether_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n that_o they_o be_v allege_v thou_o thyself_o shall_v be_v judge_n thus_o than_o he_o say_v theod._n conteror_fw-la cord_n etc._n etc._n i_o be_o much_o afflict_v in_o hart_n because_o a_o man_n be_v take_v from_o we_o who_o like_a be_v hardly_o to_o be_v find_v sed_fw-la tu_fw-la solus_fw-la domine_fw-la invocandus_fw-la es_fw-la tu_fw-la rogandus_fw-la ut_fw-la eum_fw-la in_o filijs_fw-la repraesentes_fw-la but_o thou_o alone_o o_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v thou_o to_o be_v pray_v that_o thou_o may_v represent_v he_o in_o his_o child_n thus_o say_v s._n ambrose_n 33._o and_o now_o will_v m._n andrews_n infer_v upon_o this_o that_o s._n ambrose_n teach_v here_o that_o we_o
augustine_n be_v these_o ad_fw-la quod_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n at_o which_o sacrifice_n s._n augustine_n mean_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o martyr_n be_v name_v in_o their_o place_n and_o order_n as_o the_o man_n of_o god_n who_o have_v overcome_v the_o world_n in_o the_o confession_n of_o he_o but_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n which_o sacrifice_v thus_o far_o m._n andrews_n cite_v s._n augutine_v and_o then_o add_v non_fw-la invocantur_fw-la martyr_n etc._n etc._n augustine_n have_v these_o very_a word_n the_o martyr_n be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o why_o less_o by_o the_o priest_n then_o by_o the_o people_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o lawful_a in_o sacrifice_n why_o be_v it_o lawful_a out_o of_o sacrifice_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n demand_n why_o may_v it_o be_v do_v at_o matin_n and_o be_v there_o any_o force_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n or_o altar_n to_o make_v that_o unlawful_a which_o be_v otherwise_o lawful_a thus_o m._n andrews_n discourse_v to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v not_o we_o but_o whole_o his_o in_o this_o controversy_n 54._o thereof_o let_v we_o see_v how_o well_o he_o have_v perform_v it_o and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o insist_v most_o upon_o the_o word_n invocantur_fw-la because_o s._n augustine_n say_v alone_a that_o the_o martyr_n be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n it_o be_v special_o to_o be_v consider_v in_o what_o sense_n s._n augustine_n use_v that_o word_n in_o this_o place_n for_o see_v that_o it_o be_v apply_v sometime_o to_o god_n alone_o and_o sometime_o to_o creature_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o as_o well_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n himself_o it_o be_v evident_a seq_n that_o if_o it_o be_v use_v here_o in_o the_o former_a sense_n only_o i_o mean_v for_o a_o invocation_n of_o god_n include_v a_o divine_a honour_n it_o do_v no_o way_n constradict_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o our_o sense_n signify_v only_o a_o request_n of_o their_o help_n by_o their_o prayer_n which_o as_o i_o have_v show_v m._n andrews_n himself_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o proper_a signification_n of_o invocare_fw-la ibid._n it_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v understand_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o this_o place_n use_v it_o only_o for_o a_o invocation_n by_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o saint_n or_o any_o pure_a creature_n 55._o this_o will_v be_v most_o manifest_a declare_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o text_n and_o the_o drift_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o meaning_n to_o show_v that_o the_o honour_n which_o we_o christian_n do_v to_o martyr_n redound_v special_o to_o god_n signify_v that_o albeit_o god_n do_v work_v great_a miracle_n by_o they_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v they_o for_o god_n neither_o buyld_v temple_n to_o they_o as_o to_o god_n nor_o erect_v altar_n to_o sacrifice_n to_o they_o sed_fw-la uni_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la &_o nostro_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la immolamus_fw-la but_o we_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o one_o god_n who_o be_v as_o well_o the_o god_n of_o the_o martyr_n as_o we_o at_o which_o sacrifice_n say_v he_o they_o be_v name_v as_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n non_fw-la tamen_fw-la à_fw-la sacerdote_fw-la qui_fw-la sacrificat_fw-la invocantur_fw-la yet_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v by_o the_o priest_n which_o sacrifice_v and_o then_o to_o show_v evident_o that_o he_o include_v the_o oblation_n of_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o invocation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v he_o add_v present_o deo_fw-la quip_n non_fw-la ipsis_fw-la sacrificat_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o he_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o they_o though_o he_o sacrifice_v in_o the_o honour_n of_o they_o sacrifice_n because_o he_o be_v god_n priest_n and_o not_o they_o thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n immediate_o after_o the_o word_n invocantur_fw-la 56._o whereby_o he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o invocation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v be_v proper_a to_o priestly_a function_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v exhibit_v by_o the_o priest_n to_o god_n only_o whole_a priest_n he_o be_v and_o not_o to_o the_o martyr_n as_o who_o will_v say_v because_o the_o priest_n be_v god_n priest_n and_o aught_o to_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n alone_o therefore_o he_o only_o name_v the_o martyr_n in_o his_o sacrifice_n and_o do_v not_o invocate_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o do_v not_o invocate_v they_o with_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o office_n or_o function_n of_o a_o priest_n andrews_n for_o otherwise_o i_o mean_v if_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o take_v invocation_n in_o this_o place_n for_o a_o priestly_a or_o sacrificall_a action_n his_o reason_n why_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o invocate_v the_o martyr_n to_o wit_n because_o he_o be_v the_o priest_n of_o god_n and_o sacrifice_v to_o he_o alone_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n which_o no_o doubt_v m._n andrews_n see_v well_o enough_o and_o therefore_o he_o end_v his_o citation_n at_o invocantur_fw-la without_o add_v that_o which_o immediate_o follow_v and_o show_v what_o s._n augustine_n mean_v there_o by_o invocation_n 57_o now_o than_o what_o wonder_v it_o be_v that_o s._n augustine_n say_v that_o martyr_n be_v not_o to_o be_v invocate_v in_o this_o manner_n that_o be_v to_o say_v with_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o do_v any_o man_n doubt_n of_o it_o or_o do_v it_o any_o way_n impugn_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n by_o prayer_n how_o idle_a then_o be_v m._n andrews_n his_o question_n to_o wit_n why_o the_o priest_n may_v not_o invocate_v martyr_n as_o well_o as_o the_o people_n may_v and_o why_o not_o at_o mass_n as_o well_o as_o at_o matin_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o force_n in_o the_o sacrifice_n or_o altar_n place_n to_o make_v that_o unlawful_a which_o otherwise_o be_v lawful_a whereby_o he_o seem_v to_o confound_v the_o priest_n with_o the_o people_n mass_n with_o matin_n and_o the_o altar_n with_o every_o other_o place_n suppose_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v prohibit_v to_o the_o priest_n be_v also_o forbid_a to_o the_o people_n and_o what_o can_v be_v do_v at_o mass_n be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v at_o matin_n and_o final_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v unlawful_a at_o the_o altar_n be_v lawful_a no_o where_o else_o which_o be_v most_o absurd_a see_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v lawful_a or_o unlawful_a according_a to_o the_o different_a state_n and_o quality_n of_o person_n matter_n time_n and_o place_n 58._o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o to_o invocate_v god_n with_o sacrifice_n be_v the_o proper_a function_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o not_o of_o the_o people_n and_o that_o the_o same_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n and_o not_o at_o matin_n and_o no_o where_o else_o but_o at_o the_o altar_n yea_o and_o that_o the_o priest_n may_v high_o offend_v god_n in_o his_o sacrifice_n that_o be_v to_o say_v at_o mass_n or_o at_o the_o altar_n when_o the_o people_n offend_v no_o way_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o to_o satisfy_v m._n andrews_n his_o three_o demand_n according_a to_o s._n augustine_n meaning_n in_o this_o place_n he_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o priest_n may_v invocate_v god_n with_o sacrifice_n meaning_n and_o the_o people_n can_v that_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v do_v at_o mass_n and_o not_o at_o matin_n and_o that_o such_o invocation_n be_v not_o lawful_o do_v any_o where_o but_o at_o the_o altar_n and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o due_a to_o god_n alone_o that_o it_o can_v never_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n either_o by_o people_n or_o priest_n at_o matin_n or_o mass_n at_o the_o altar_n or_o yet_o elsewhere_o and_o so_o shall_v he_o understand_v that_o the_o place_n which_o he_o allege_v make_v nothing_o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o that_o his_o vain_a demand_n have_v serve_v to_o no_o other_o purpose_n but_o to_o show_v his_o ignorance_n and_o folly_n 59_o this_o will_v yet_o further_o appear_v by_o his_o conclusion_n wherein_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o expound_v the_o other_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n which_o you_o have_v hear_v cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n to_o wit_n iniuria_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v injury_n to_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n to_o who_o prayer_n we_o ought_v to_o be_v recommend_v whereto_o m._n andrews_n have_v oppose_v cardinal_n and_o vain_o urge_v this_o other_o place_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v answer_v in_o conclusion_n thus_o quare_fw-la apud_fw-la illum_fw-la etc._n etc._n wherefore_o that_o we_o shall_v be_v recomend_v to_o the_o prayer_n of_o martyr_n be_v not_o to_o invocate_v they_o but_o to_o wish_v to_o be_v recommend_v to_o the_o intercession_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o of_o all_o his_o mystical_a body_n and_o we_o do_v
here_o be_v that_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n which_o he_o quote_v all_o the_o argument_n of_o luther_n calvin_n the_o magdeburgenses_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o among_o other_o even_o those_o which_o he_o object_v against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v full_o answer_v and_o yet_o he_o insist_v still_o upon_o the_o same_o without_o any_o reply_n in_o the_o world_n to_o the_o cardinal_n answer_n as_o though_o these_o his_o old_a stale_a objection_n be_v new_a invention_n and_o have_v never_o be_v answer_v before_o whereas_o reason_n will_v malice_n that_o see_v he_o see_v the_o answer_n thereto_o as_o by_o this_o his_o quotation_n it_o be_v manifest_a he_o do_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v somewhat_o to_o confute_v they_o and_o if_o he_o say_v that_o he_o do_v not_o hold_v they_o worthy_a of_o a_o reply_n he_o shall_v have_v show_v the_o same_o at_o least_o in_o some_o one_o or_o 2._o of_o they_o and_o so_o no_o doubt_n he_o will_v have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v be_v able_a whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o err_v not_o of_o ignorance_n but_o of_o mere_a malice_n and_o impugn_v a_o know_a truth_n against_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o knowledge_n 71._o well_o then_o i_o will_v conclude_v concern_v the_o 12._o father_n allege_a by_o the_o cardinal_n epilogo_fw-la and_o i_o with_o the_o word_n of_o s._n augustine_n defend_v the_o authority_n and_o faith_n of_o 11._o father_n allege_a by_o he_o against_o julian_n the_o pelagian_n who_o desire_v to_o have_v judge_n of_o his_o cause_n his_o igitur_fw-la eloquijs_fw-la say_v s._n augustine_n andrews_n &_o tanta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o with_o these_o testimony_n and_o so_o great_a authority_n of_o holy_a man_n either_o thou_o will_v through_o god_n mercy_n be_v cure_v which_o how_o much_o i_o desire_v he_o see_v who_o i_o beseech_v to_o work_v it_o or_o if_o which_o god_n forbid_v thou_o still_o remain_v in_o thy_o great_a folly_n for_o so_o it_o be_v though_o it_o seem_v wisdom_n 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creature_n of_o this_o kind_a the_o scripture_n speak_v when_o it_o say_v 4._o dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la tuum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v thy_o lord_n god_n and_o serve_v he_o alone_o also_o non_fw-la 20._o adorabis_fw-la ea_fw-la neque_fw-la coal_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v nor_o worship_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v idol_n non_fw-la 23._o adorabis_fw-la deos_fw-la eorum_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v ●heir_o go_n 47_o adoravit_fw-la irael_n dominum_fw-la israel_n adore_v our_o lord_n 7._o gedeon_n adoravit_fw-la &_o reversus_fw-la est_fw-la gedeon_n adore_v and_o return_v 4._o very_fw-la adoratores_fw-la adorabunt_fw-la patrem_fw-la in_o spiritu_fw-la &_o veritate_fw-la the_o true_a adorer_n or_o worshipper_n shall_v adore_v my_o father_n in_o spirit_n and_o truth_n and_o the_o like_a occur_v in_o infinite_a other_o place_n as_o well_o of_o the_o new_a as_o the_o old_a testament_n 14●_n the_o second_o kind_n of_o adoration_n though_o it_o be_v inferior_a to_o this_o yet_o be_v also_o a_o act_n of_o religion_n exhibit_v in_o like_a manner_n exterior_o to_o angel_n saint_n or_o holy_a man_n as_o to_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n and_o for_o the_o honour_n and_o love_n of_o he_o of_o which_o kind_n many_o example_n be_v set_v down_o in_o holy_a scripture_n as_o of_o 18._o abraham_n 19●_n lo●_n and_o 22._o balaam_n who_o adore_v angel_n prostrate_v upon_o the_o ground_n and_o of_o 5._o josue_n who_o fall_v down_o prostrate_a before_o a_o angel_n &_o adorans_fw-la ait_fw-la quid_fw-la dominus_fw-la meus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o adore_v say_v why_o do_v my_o lord_n speak_v unto_o his_o servant_n and_o so_o far_o be_v the_o angel_n from_o reprehend_v he_o that_o he_o make_v he_o do_v more_o reverence_n command_v he_o to_o put_v of_o his_o shoe_n because_o the_o place_n be_v holy_a wherein_o he_o stand_v which_o place_n no_o
who_o be_v say_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v adore_v angel_n and_o man_n their_o case_n i_o say_v be_v hard●_n if_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o save_v they_o from_o idolatry_n but_o by_o a_o absurd_a catachresis_fw-la never_o dream_v of_o by_o any_o but_o by_o andrews●_n for_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v be_v so_o absurd_a to_o imagine_v a_o catachresis_fw-la where_o there_o be_v no_o want_n of_o proper_a word_n time_n especial_o so_o often_o as_o adoration_n be_v use_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n &_o man_n not_o only_o in_o the_o father_n but_o also_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n where_o i_o ●are_v undertake_v to_o show_v it_o in_o that_o sense_n above_o 40._o time_n for_o i_o have_v take_v pain_n to_o search_v it_o which_o i_o hope_v may_v suffice_v to_o teach_v m●_n andrews_n that_o it_o do_v not_o signify_v divine_a honour_n only_o &_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n &_o we_o who_o use_v it_o sometime_o in_o other_o sense_n have_v sufficient_a warrant_n for_o it_o from_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o final_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o catachresis_fw-la i_o mean_v no_o other_o abuse_n in_o all_o this_o matter_n but_o in_o m._n andrews_n his_o corrupt_a conscience_n conscience_n who_o make_v no_o scruple_n to_o abuse_v and_o delude_v his_o reader_n with_o such_o shift_n and_o device_n to_o bolster_v out_o his_o bad_a cause_n thus_o much_o for_o his_o first_o reason_n 21._o his_o second_o reason_n why_o adorare_fw-la be_v take_v figurative_o in_o that_o place_n of_o s._n hierome_n be_v this●_n vbi_fw-la vero_fw-la say_v he_o supra_fw-la propriè_fw-la ei_fw-la loquendum_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o when_o s._n hierome_n be_v to_o speak_v proper_o to_o wit_n to_o vigilantius_n his_o adversary_n who_o press_v he_o strict_o and_o will_v not_o suffer_v he_o to_o speak_v at_o large_a than_o he_o deny_v it_o earnest_o say_v nos_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la dico_fw-la martyrum_fw-la reliquias_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v i_o do_v not_o say_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n but_o neither_o the_o sun_n nor_o the_o moon_n nor_o the_o angel_n nor_o the_o cherubin_n nor_o the_o seraphim_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n end_v his_o citation_n there_o because_o that_o which_o follow_v will_v mar_v all_o his_o market_n as_o you_o shall_v see_v after_o a_o while_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o conclude_v thus_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o will_v the_o cardinal_n say_v here_o see_v that_o the_o old_a father_n of_o the_o church_n do_v cry_v out_o we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n victory_n here_o the_o cardinal_n be_v hold_v so_o fast_o that_o he_o can_v slip_v away_o thus_o triumph_v m._n andrews_n before_o the_o victory_n or_o rather_o have_v lose_v the_o victory_n be_v himself_o a_o captive_n and_o have_v no_o other_o remedy_n leave_v he_o but_o to_o brag_v and_o face_n out_o the_o matter_n 22._o for_o thou_o shall_v understand_v good_a reader_n that_o s._n hierome_n here_o speak_v as_o the_o logician_n say_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v according_a to_o the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o his_o adversary_n vigilantius_n one_o of_o m._n andrews_n his_o worthy_a progenitour_n who_o impugn_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n that_o m._n andrews_n do_v progenitor_n hold_v it_o for_o no_o other_o than_o idolatry_n as_o s._n hierome_n testify_v in_o the_o same_o epistle_n to_o riparius_n which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v ais_fw-mi say_v s._n hierome_n riparium_fw-la vigilantius_n etc._n etc._n you_o say_v that_o vigilantius_n as_o we_o may_v say_v m._n andew_n open_v again_o his_o stink_a mouth_n and_o cast_v forth_o a_o most_o filthy_a savour_n against_o the_o relic_n of_o holy_a martyr_n and_o call_v we_o who_o reverence_v they_o and_o worship_v the_o bone_n of_o the_o dead_a cinerarios_fw-la &_o idololatras_fw-la worshipper_n of_o ash_n &_o idolator_n vigilantium_fw-la so_o he_o and_o in_o his_o tract_n against_o vigilantius_n himself_o he_o set_v down_o vigilantius_n his_o own_o word_n thus_o quid_fw-la n●cesse_n est_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o need_n have_v thou_o not_o only_o to_o honour_v with_o so_o great_a honour_n but_o also_o to_o adore_v that_o i_o know_v not_o what_o which_o thou_o worship_v carry_v it_o in_o a_o little_a vessel_n from_o place_n to_o place_n and_o why_o do_v thou_o kiss_v and_o adore_v dust_n leap_v in_o a_o linen_n cloth_n and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o we_o see_v you_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o gentile_n &c._n &c._n every_o where_o kiss_n and_o adore_v i_o know_v not_o what_o little_a dust_n carry_v in_o a_o little_a ussell_n and_o leap_v in_o a_o precious_a linen_n cloth_n thus_o write_v vigilantius_n 23._o whereby_o you_o see_v how_o he_o charge_v the_o catholic_n of_o those_o day_n with_o flat_a idolatry_n for_o worship_v or_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o saint_n take_v adoration_n for_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o in_o which_o respect_n he_o call_v the_o catholic_n idolator_n and_o therefore_o s._n hierome_n answer_v he_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n say_v that_o which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v himself_o to_o wit_n non_fw-la adoramus_fw-la reliquias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o adore_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o do_v not_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n commit_v idolatry_n as_o vigilantius_n charge_v we_o ibidem_fw-la but_o honoramus_fw-la say_v he_o present_o afterward_o reliquias_fw-la martyrum_fw-la ut_fw-la eum_fw-la cvius_fw-la sunt_fw-la martyris_fw-la adoremus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n that_o we_o may_v adore_v or_o yield_v divine_a honour_n to_o he_o who_o martyr_n they_o be_v god_n honoramus_fw-la serous_a etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v the_o servant_n to_o the_o end_n that_o their_o honour_n may_v redound_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o lord_n who_o say_v he_o which_o receive_v you_o receive_v i_o thus_o say_v s._n hierome_n which_o m._n andrews_n think_v good_a to_o dissemble_v as_o if_o he_o have_v not_o seem_v it_o for_o that_o it_o full_o explicate_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o s._n hierome_n &_o vigilantius_n as_o also_o betwixt_o m._n andrews_n &_o we_o &_o clear_v all_o the_o matter_n for_o who_o see_v not_o here_o that_o albeit_o s._n hierome_n deny_v the_o adoration_n of_o relic_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o vigilantius_n obict_v it_o as_o we_o also_o do_v to_o wit_n as_o signify_v a_o divine_a honour_n yet_o he_o approve_v and_o teach_v it_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o catholic_n that_o be_v as_o adoration_n signify_v a_o veneration_n and_o worship_n do_v to_o saint_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n who_o be_v honour_v &_o glorify_v thereby_o 24._o to_o which_o purpose_n two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v in_o this_o matter_n the_o one_o that_o whereas_o vigilantius_n charge_v the_o catholic_n to_o adore_v and_o kiss_v every_o where_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n he_o show_v sufficient_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v at_o that_o time_n to_o do_v corporal_a reverence_n thereto_o not_o only_o by_o kiss_v they_o but_o also_o by_o incline_v or_o bow_v down_o the_o body_n which_o the_o word_n adoration_n signify_v and_o s._n hierome_n deny_v not_o though_o he_o deny_v the_o inference_n of_o idolatry_n that_o vigilantius_n make_v thereon_o 25._o the_o other_o be_v that_o as_o vigilantius_n do_v not_o herein_o reprove_v the_o particular_a custom_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n but_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o that_o time_n so_o also_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o impugn_v he_o only_o with_o private_a reason_n and_o argument_n of_o his_o own_o but_o also_o with_o public_a example_n as_o of_o the_o public_a translation_n of_o the_o holy_a relic_n of_o s._n andrew_n s._n luke_n and_o s._n timothy_n to_o constantinople_n by_o constantin_n the_o emperor_n supr●●_n apud_fw-la quas_fw-la say_v he_o daemon_n rugiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o which_o relic_n devil_n do_v roar_v and_o the_o inhabitor_n and_o prossessor_n of_o vigilantius_n do_v confess_v that_o they_o feel_v their_o presence_n so_o he_o and_o then_o produce_v also_o another_o example_n that_o have_v pass_v not_o long_o before_o of_o a_o most_o solemn_a translation_n of_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n the_o prophet_n from_o judaea_n to_o chalcedon_n in_o thracia_n which_o be_v sumptuous_o and_o triumphant_o carry_v by_o bishop_n in_o a_o golden_a vessel_n and_o meet_v receive_v and_o accompany_v by_o the_o people_n of_o all_o the_o church_n by_o the_o way_n in_o so_o much_o that_o there_o be_v say_v s._n hierome_n continual_a swarm_n of_o people_n even_o from_o palestina_n to_o chalcedon_n sound_v forth_o the_o praise_n of_o christ_n with_o one_o voice_n all_o a_o long_a as_o they_o go_v hierome_n whereupon_o he_o ask_v vigilantius_n whether_o
he_o take_v arcadius_n the_o emperor_n who_o cause_v this_o to_o be_v do_v and_o all_o the_o bishop_n which_o carry_v these_o relic_n and_o all_o the_o multitude_n of_o people_n which_o accompany_v they_o for_o sacrilegious_a person_n and_o fool_n and_o final_o conclude_v deryde_v his_o folly_n videlicet_fw-la say_v he_o adorabant_fw-la samuelem_fw-la non_fw-la christum_fw-la cvius_fw-la samuel_n &_o levita_fw-la &_o propheta_fw-la fuit_fw-la belike_o they_o adore_v samuel_n and_o not_o christ_n who_o levite_n and_o prophet_n samuel_n be_v this_o say_v s._n hierome_n show_v the_o absurdity_n of_o vigilantius_n who_o do_v think_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o adore_v in_o all_o this_o but_o only_o samuel_n whereas_o all_o the_o reverence_n honour_n &_o adoration_n use_v by_o those_o bishop_n and_o people_n to_o the_o relic_n of_o samuel_n be_v indeed_o do_v to_o christ_n because_o as_o s._n hierome_n say_v before_o seruorum_fw-la honos_fw-la redundat_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la the_o honour_n of_o the_o servant_n redound_v to_o their_o lord_n 26._o so_o that_o s._n hierome_n do_v not_o deny_v that_o holy_a relic_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o as_o m._n andrew_n follow_v his_o progenitor_n vigilantius_n will_v needs_o understand_v the_o word_n adoration_n that_o be_v for_o a_o divine_a cult_a and_o worship_n in_o which_o sense_n neither_o s._n hierome_n nor_o the_o catholic_n in_o his_o time_n nor_o we_o now_o do_v use_n or_o take_v it_o when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o holy_a thing_n but_o only_o for_o a_o devout_a and_o religious_a veneration_n as_o s._n hierome_n himself_o do_v also_o use_v it_o not_o only_o in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n touch_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o ash_n of_o s._n john_n and_o other_o prophet_n but_o also_o when_o he_o say_v of_o himself_o ruffin_n praesepe_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o incunabula_fw-la adoravi_fw-la i_o adore_v the_o manger_n and_o cradle_n of_o christ_n and_o again_o expound_v that_o verse_n of_o the_o psalm_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la eius_fw-la adore_v the_o footstole_a of_o his_o foot_n he_o take_v the_o footstool_n to_o be_v the_o cross_n 98._o give_v thereby_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o cross_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o therefore_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o thou_o good_a reader_n to_o judge_v what_o a_o vain_a vaunt_n it_o be_v of_o m._n andrews_n to_o say_v upon_o the_o former_a place_n of_o s._n hierome_n tenetur_fw-la hic_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la ut_fw-la elabi_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la hecre_n the_o cardinal_n be_v take_v and_o hold_v so_o fast_o that_o he_o can_v slip_v away_o whereas_o you_o see_v that_o the_o whole_a place_n and_o the_o circumstance_n be_v lay_v down_o with_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o vigilantius_n and_o s._n hierome_n all_o which_o he_o crafty_o conceal_v he_o be_v catch_v himself_o like_o a_o mouse_n in_o a_o trap_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o get_v out_o with_o his_o credit_n 27._o examine_v but_o yet_o there_o remain_v a_o word_n or_o two_o more_o to_o be_v say_v of_o this_o matter_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n ambrose_n which_o he_o also_o object_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n for_o whereas_o those_o two_o father_n interpret_n the_o word_n of_o the_o psalm_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la eius_fw-la adore_v you_o the_o footstool_n of_o his_o foot_n do_v expound_v the_o footstool_n to_o be_v the_o body_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 12._o teach_v that_o the_o same_o be_v there_o to_o be_v adore_v m._n andrews_n say_v that_o if_o adorare_fw-la may_v be_v take_v proper_o to_o adore_v holy_a thing_n they_o will_v never_o have_v trouble_v themselves_o so_o much_o to_o find_v out_o how_o the_o footstool_n of_o god_n may_v be_v adore_v neither_o will_v they_o have_v determine_v that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v adore_v but_o in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n 13._o whereto_o i_o answer_v first●_o that_o they_o do_v not_o expound_v the_o same_o literal_o but_o mystical_o for_o scabellum_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o footstool_n of_o god_n in_o that_o place_n be_v literal_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o testament_n as_o the_o cardinal_n have_v prove_v by_o many_o notable_a reason_n &_o authority_n in_o his_o controversys_n whereto_o i_o remit_v m._n andrews_n because_o i_o will_v not_o detain_v my_o reader_n too_o long_o upon_o this_o point_n 28._o second_o i_o say_v that_o albeit_o they_o understand_v adoration_n in_o that_o place_n for_o divine_a honour_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o it_o be_v and_o well_o may_v be_v take_v in_o other_o place_n 1._o for_o a_o religious_a worship_n do_v to_o holy_a man_n for_o s._n augustine_n himself_o teach_v express_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o word_n in_o latin_a that_o so_o proper_o signify_v divine_a honour_n or_o worship_n but_o it_o be_v and_o may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n except_o latria_n which_o be_v borrow_v of_o the_o greek_n and_o apply_v either_o always_o say_v s._n augustine_n or_o almost_o always_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n rather_o by_o custom_n and_o use_n then_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n proper_o signify_v seruitus_fw-la service_n for_o which_o cause_n have_v in_o his_o question_n upon_o genesis_n demand_v how_o abraham_n can_v lawful_o adore_v the_o child_n of_o heth_n see_v the_o scripture_n say_v 4._o dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la tuum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v thy_o lord_n god_n and_o serve_v he_o alone_o he_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o say_v there_o deum_fw-la solum_fw-la adorabis_fw-la thou_o shall_v adore_v god_n alone_o but_o illi_fw-la soli_fw-la seruies_fw-la thou_o shall_v serve_v he_o alone_o and_o note_v also_o that_o for_o the_o word_n seruies_fw-la in_o latin_a the_o greek_a have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o whence_o be_v derive_v latria_n so_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o s._n augustine_n himself_o that_o neither_o adorare_fw-la nor_o any_o other_o latin_a word_n do_v proper_o signify_v to_o worship_n god_n only_o and_o that_o adoratio_fw-la when_o it_o be_v not_o take_v for_o cultus_fw-la latriae_fw-la as_o he_o take_v it_o in_o the_o exposition_n of_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v be_v apply_v to_o creature_n and_o therefore_o he_o himself_o not_o only_o understand_v adoration_n for_o civil_a worship_n in_o the_o foresay_a example_n of_o abraham_n sanctis_fw-la but_o also_o use_v it_o else_o where_o for_o religious_a worship_n due_a to_o holy_a man_n say_v of_o s._n peter_n bea●issimum_fw-la petrum_fw-la piscatorom_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o multitude_n of_o faithful_a people_n do_v now_o adore_v the_o most_o bless_a peter_n the_o fishery_n genibus_fw-la provolutis_fw-la upon_o their_o knee_n theodosij_n 29._o s._n ambrose_n also_o make_v 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this_o be_v so_o they_o will_v constantine_n say_v to_o the_o cardinal_n set_v up_o a_o ladder_n &_o climb_v up_o to_o heaven_n alone_o as_o he_o say_v once_o to_o acetius_n the_o novatian_a heretic_n 49._o nevertheless_o a_o man_n may_v well_o maruaille_n and_o demand_n whether_o the_o cardinal_n in_o good_a earnest_n be_v so_o affect_v 87._o and_o so_o think_v of_o himself_o as_o here_o he_o seem_v to_o do_v to_o wit_n that_o he_o shall_v have_v no_o need_n of_o the_o mercy_n of_o a_o father_n nor_o of_o the_o liberality_n of_o a_o prince_n that_o he_o fear_v not_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o judge_n that_o he_o challenge_v to_o himself_o life_n everlasting_a for_o the_o quality_n of_o his_o deed_n and_o merit_n of_o his_o work_n that_o he_o renounce_v the_o grace_n fayth_n and_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n that_o he_o will_v appear_v in_o judgement_n without_o these_o and_o there_o make_v ostentation_n of_o his_o work_n as_o be_v full_a pure_a and_o perfect_a without_o all_o kind_n 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undertake_v to_o show_v at_o this_o time_n and_o therefore_o i_o omit_v to_o prosecute_v the_o confutation_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o idle_a discourse_n wherein_o after_o some_o further_a gybe_n at_o the_o cardinal_n deny_v yea_o at_o all_o cardinal_n and_o jesuit_n for_o their_o presumption_n in_o their_o own_o innocence_n he_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v place_n for_o mercy_n in_o god_n judgement_n which_o i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v be_v so_o absurd_a to_o deny_v and_o then_o he_o allege_v certain_a place_n of_o s._n gregory_n and_o s._n bernard_n to_o prove_v that_o our_o best_a work_n be_v impure_a which_o place_n as_o also_o all_o the_o rest_n that_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o cite_v for_o that_o purpose_n be_v full_o answer_v in_o cardinal_n beauties_n controversy_n 21._o whereto_o i_o remit_v he_o for_o that_o point_n but_o in_o the_o end_n after_o all_o his_o rave_v it_o seem_v he_o be_v somewhat_o come_v to_o himself_o acknowledge_v as_o it_o be_v in_o lucid●_n interuallo_fw-la that_o account_n be_v to_o be_v give_v for_o deed_n interuallum_fw-la as_o well_o at_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n as_o in_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o that_o good_a work_n shall_v be_v reward_v by_o the_o force_n of_o god_n promise_n yea_o and_o that_o a_o man_n may_v claim_v that_o as_o due_a &_o say_v to_o almighty_a god_n with_o due_a humility_n red_a quod_fw-la promisi●ti_fw-la give_v i_o that_o which_o thou_o have_v promise_v touch_v which_o grant_n of_o he_o i_o shall_v have_v very_o just_a occasion_n seq_n hereafter_o to_o say_v somewhat_o more_o unto_o he_o as_o also_o about_o merit_n and_o the_o eternal_a retribution_n of_o work_n and_o therefore_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o the_o present_a concern_v this_o point_n 55._o but_o what_o marvel_n be_v it_o if_o he_o make_v no_o scruple_n to_o abuse_v the_o cardinal_n and_o to_o pervert_v his_o sense_n and_o meaning_n father_n see_v that_o he_o use_v the_o same_o stile_n with_o the_o holy_a and_o ancient_a father_n to_o which_o purpose_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o you_o may_v remember_v that_o in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n i_o show_v evident_o how_o he_o abuse_v belie_v and_o falsify_v s._n ambrose_n s._n augustine_n and_o s._n cyrill_n as_o that_o he_o corrupt_v 6._o s._n ambrose_n his_o text_n add_v certain_a word_n thereto_o and_o belie_v s._n 25._o augustine_n and_o s._n cyril_n affirm_v they_o to_o teach_v that_o s._n peter_n lose_v his_o apostleship_n by_o his_o fall_n whereas_o s._n augustine_n have_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o that_o purpose_n in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o m._n andrews_n and_o teach_v the_o quite_o contrary_a else_o where_o and_o though_o s._n cyril_n have_v somewhat_o concern_v that_o matter_n yet_o it_o be_v far_o otherwise_o then_o m._n andrews_n suggest_v as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o place_n itself_o which_o i_o have_v lay_v down_o at_o large_a in_o the_o first_o 26.27_o chapter_n and_o therefore_o i_o forbear_v to_o treat_v further_o thereof_o in_o this_o place_n 56._o also_o you_o may_v remember_v his_o notable_a fraud_n in_o the_o corrupt_a allegation_n of_o a_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n concern_v the_o equality_n of_o dignity_n power_n and_o authority_n which_o he_o say_v be_v give_v thereby_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome●_n whereas_o the_o contrary_a appear_v by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o same_o canon_n by_o the_o which_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o only_o the_o precedence_n be_v not_o grant_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n before_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n &_o antioch_n and_o therefore_o he_o crafty_o conceal_v and_o leave_v uncit_v such_o word_n of_o the_o canon_n as_o will_v have_v discover_v his_o fraud_n beside_o other_o trick_n &_o shift_n which_o he_o use_v in_o other_o point_n concern_v the_o same_o matter_n 66._o
1●_n and_o saint_n be_v present_a among_o man_n per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la by_o the_o divine_a power_n 63._o and_o to_o show_v this_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v these_o word_n out_o of_o the_o say_a treatise_n of_o s._n augustine_n non_fw-la ideo_fw-la putandum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v think_v that_o every_o one_o of_o the_o dead_a may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o affair_n of_o man_n because_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a in_o heal_v and_o help_v some_o man_n but_o rather_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o because_o the_o dead_a can_v be_v present_a among_o man_n by_o their_o own_o nature_n therefore_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a at_o man_n affair_n by_o the_o divine_a power_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n where_o you_o see_v he_o distinguish_v betwixt_o natural_a and_o supernatural_a mean_n and_o betwixt_o the_o glorify_a saint_n of_o god_n for_o such_o be_v the_o martyr_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v and_o other_o dead_a man_n grant_v that_o the_o martyr_n do_v that_o by_o supernatural_a and_o divine_a mean_n which_o other_o dead_a man_n can_v natural_o do_v and_o this_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n that_o all_o catholic_n hold_v concern_v the_o knowledge_n that_o the_o glorify_a saint_n have_v of_o thing_n do_v in_o earth_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v the_o same_o natural_o but_o by_o supernatural_a mean_n whether_o they_o see_v it_o in_o see_v the_o divine_a essence_n or_o know_v it_o otherwise_o by_o revelation_n so_o as_o thereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o m._n andrew_n have_v notable_o abuse_v both_o s._n augustine_n and_o the_o cardinal_n s._n augustine_n in_o make_v he_o to_o affirm_v of_o glorify_a saint_n that_o which_o he_o speak_v of_o other_o dead_a man_n as_o if_o he_o make_v no_o difference_n between_o the_o supernatural_a knowledge_n and_o power_n of_o the_o one_o and_o the_o natural_a of_o the_o other_o which_o he_o evident_o distinguish_v also_o he_o abuse_v the_o cardinal_n in_o take_v hold_n of_o his_o objection_n and_o dissemble_v his_o solution_n which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o gross_a and_o palpable_a fraud_n or_o rather_o foolery_n that_o may_v be_v imagine_v in_o this_o kind_n andrew_n 64._o furthermore_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n produce_v the_o evident_a and_o clear_a testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n to_o prove_v that_o many_o miracle_n be_v do_v by_o the_o relic_n of_o s._n stephen_n in_o africa_n m._n andrews_n wish_v the_o cardinal_n to_o consider_v how_o he_o can_v well_o and_o handsome_o reconcile_v augustine_n with_o augustine_n concern_v those_o miracle_n 157._o and_o his_o reason_n be_v because_o augustine_n say_v in_o a_o epistle_n to_o his_o clergy_n 1._o and_o all_o the_o people_n of_o hippo_n nusquam_fw-la hic_fw-la in_o africa_n t●lia_fw-la fieri_fw-la se_fw-la scire_fw-la he_o know_v that_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o do_v any_o where_o in_o africa_n which_o i_o beseech_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o note_v and_o thou_o shall_v evident_o see_v the_o good_a conscience_n of_o m._n andrews_n 137_o who_o abuse_v s._n augustine_n notable_o two_o way_n the_o one_o in_o make_v he_o seem_v to_o contradict_v himself_o most_o manifest_o impudent_o yea_o and_o to_o give_v himself_o as_o it_o be_v the_o lie_n witness_v in_o one_o place_n matter_n of_o fact_n upon_o his_o own_o knowledge_n for_o so_o he_o testify_v those_o miracle_n do_v by_o s._n stephen_n relic_n and_o in_o another_o place_n affirm_v that_o he_o know_v the_o same_o to_o be_v false_a for_o so_o must_v it_o needs_o be_v if_o he_o know_v that_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o do_v any_o where_o in_o africa_n the_o other_o abuse_n be_v in_o that_o he_o pervert_v the_o sense_n of_o s._n augustin_n epistle_n as_o it_o will_v easy_o appear_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o occasion_n why_o s._n augustine_n write_v the_o same_o which_o therefore_o i_o think_v good_a here_o to_o relate_v 65._o a_o scandalous_a quarrel_n be_v fall_v out_o betwixt_o a_o chaplain_n of_o s._n augustin_n and_o a_o young_a man_n concern_v a_o infamous_a calumniation_n raise_v by_o the_o young_a man_n against_o the_o priest_n whereof_o the_o truth_n can_v not_o be_v try_v or_o know_v because_o the_o matter_n depend_v whole_o upon_o their_o own_o oath_n and_o testimony_n s._n augustin_n advise_v they_o to_o go_v to_o nola_n in_o italy_n to_o the_o body_n of_o s._n felix_n where_o it_o please_v god_n ordinary_o in_o like_a case_n to_o discover_v perjury_n by_o the_o miraculous_a punishment_n of_o the_o perjure_a person_n and_o of_o this_o he_o think_v good_a afterward_o to_o give_v account_n unto_o his_o clergy_n and_o people_n for_o their_o satisfaction_n which_o he_o do_v by_o the_o epistle_n that_o m._n andrews_n cit_v wherein_o discourse_v by_o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o matter_n why_o almighty_a god_n do_v such_o miracle_n in_o some_o place_n and_o not_o in_o other_o he_o say_v ●37_n multis_fw-la notissima_fw-la est_fw-la sanctitas_fw-la loci_fw-la etc._n etc._n many_o do_v very_o well_o know_v the_o holiness_n of_o the_o place_n where_o lie_v the_o body_n of_o bless_a felix_n of_o nola_n whither_o i_o ordain_v they_o to_o go_v because_o from_o thence_o i_o may_v more_o easy_o and_o true_o understand_v by_o letter_n whatsoever_o that_o shall_v please_v god_n to_o manifest_v in_o either_o of_o they_o so_o he_o and_o then_o have_v add_v that_o also_o in_o milan_n a_o perjure_a thief_n be_v discover_v miraculous_o at_o the_o monument_n of_o certain_a saint_n and_o force_v to_o restore_v that_o which_o he_o have_v steal_v he_o say_v further_a thus_o numquid_fw-la non_fw-la africa_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o africa_n full_a of_o the_o body_n of_o holy_a martyr_n &_o tamen_fw-la nusquam_fw-la hic_fw-la scimus_fw-la talia_fw-la fieri_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o nevertheless_o we_o know_v that_o such_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o say_v miracle_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v not_o do_v any_o where_o here_o in_o africa_n for_o even_o as_o the_o 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time_n and_o place_n that_o a_o man_n must_v hold_v he_o for_o the_o most_o impudent_a liar_n that_o ever_o write_v if_o they_o be_v not_o most_o true_a beside_o that_o write_v the_o same_o as_o he_o do_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o christian_a religion_n against_o pagan_n and_o infidel_n it_o can_v without_o extreme_a folly_n be_v imagine_v that_o such_o a_o learned_a wise_a and_o holy_a man_n as_o he_o will_v be_v so_o prodigal_a not_o only_o of_o his_o own_o credit_n and_o reputation_n but_o also_o of_o the_o honour_n of_o christian_a religion_n as_o to_o expose_v the_o same_o to_o the_o derision_n of_o the_o paynim_n by_o seek_v to_o confirm_v it_o by_o fable_n and_o lie_v which_o every_o man_n in_o those_o part_n as_o well_o the_o paynime_n themselves_o as_o other_o may_v have_v control_v and_o will_v have_v deride_v if_o they_o have_v be_v feign_v 67._o final_o these_o miracle_n of_o s._n stephen_n which_o m._n andrew_n call_v here_o in_o question_n be_v testify_v by_o s._n augustine_n in_o that_o work_n which_o m._n andrew_n himself_o so_o much_o esteem_v else_o where_o numquam_fw-la that_o allege_v out_o of_o it_o a_o sentence_n which_o he_o think_v may_v make_v for_o he_o he_o call_v it_o opus_fw-la palmare_fw-la de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o principal_a or_o most_o excellent_a work_n of_o augustine_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o now_o he_o will_v fain_o disgrace_v it_o or_o rather_o s._n augustine_n himself_o by_o the_o imputation_n of_o a_o contradiction_n which_o he_o will_v the_o reader_n shall_v suppose_v to_o be_v betwixt_o it_o and_o the_o foresay_a epistle_n of_o s._n augustine_n whereas_o you_o see_v and_o m._n andrews_n know_v it_o in_o his_o own_o conscience_n that_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n in_o the_o world_n betwixt_o they_o but_o that_o both_o of_o they_o do_v notable_o and_o clear_o testify_v the_o