Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	wonder_v	word_n	write_v	41	3	4.7189	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A67270	Baptismōn didachē, the doctrine of baptisms, or, A discourse of dipping and sprinkling wherein is shewed the lawfulness of other ways of baptization, besides that of a total immersion, and objections against it answered / by William Walker ...	Walker, William, 1623-1684.	1678 (1678)	Wing W417; ESTC R39415	264,191	320

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and_o so_o become_v a_o custom_n of_o old_a though_o it_o be_v not_o a_o custom_n initio_fw-la in_fw-la or_o at_o the_o first_o beginning_n deacon_n as_o distinct_a officer_n from_o apostle_n be_v of_o old_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o initio_fw-la at_o the_o first_o beginning_n of_o christianity_n or_o constitution_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n but_o ordain_v some_o time_n after_o its_o beginning_n and_o by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o act_v 6.5_o 6._o §_o 49._o and_o whereas_o that_o author_n say_v that_o we_o now_o rather_o have_v pro_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n rhantism_n instead_o of_o baptism_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v two_o way_n first_o more_o strict_o for_o the_o act_n of_o immersion_n or_o dip_v or_o more_o large_o for_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n however_o administer_v and_o so_o though_o instead_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d dip_v we_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sprinkle_n yet_o we_o have_v not_o that_o sprinkle_n instead_o of_o baptism_n as_o if_o our_o sprinkle_n be_v not_o baptise_v but_o somewhat_o else_o instead_o of_o it_o but_o we_o have_v it_o for_o what_o it_o real_o be_v a_o true_a baptism_n in_o the_o large_a sense_n though_o it_o be_v not_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o strict_a sense_n of_o that_o word_n as_o it_o signify_v dip_v though_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o strict_o dip_v yet_o it_o be_v true_o baptise_v §_o 50._o from_o zepperus_n he_o be_v in_o haste_n to_o go_v to_o dr._n taylor_n a_o champion_n he_o often_o glory_n in_o and_o say_v he_o dr._n taylor_n in_o his_o rule_n of_o conscience_n l._n 3._o c._n 4._o p._n 644_o 645._o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v not_o in_o their_o baptism_n sprinkle_v water_n with_o their_o hand_n but_o do_v immerge_n and_o therefore_o we_o find_v in_o the_o record_n of_o the_o church_n that_o the_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v be_v quite_o naked_a as_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o many_o place_n particular_o in_o the_o mystagogy_n chat_v as_o he_o write_v it_o of_o st._n cyril_n and_o many_o other_o as_o you_o have_v before_o in_o the_o second_o chapter_n of_o this_o part_n from_o vossius_fw-la p._n 133._o and_o i_o shall_v follow_v he_o as_o fast_o to_o attend_v the_o motion_n of_o that_o doctor_n and_o i_o answer_v §_o 51._o bishop_n taylor_n do_v as_o i_o and_o all_o good_a man_n i_o believe_v will_v do_v i._n e._n wish_a as_o near_o a_o conformity_n in_o the_o present_a church_n to_o the_o primitive_a as_o the_o circumstance_n of_o both_o may_v well_o permit_v and_o therefore_o represent_v thing_n tend_v that_o way_n as_o favourable_a as_o he_o can_v but_o his_o word_n must_v not_o be_v tenter-hooked_a and_o stretch_v to_o a_o meaning_n beyond_o his_o mind_n and_o whether_o they_o be_v not_o so_o here_o will_v be_v leave_v to_o the_o reader_n judgement_n in_o this_o very_a section_n and_o paragraph_n he_o tell_v you_o that_o of_o this_o sprinkle_v beside_o what_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o former_a testimony_n there_o be_v some_o little_a use_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o he_o back_v this_o say_n of_o he_o with_o proof_n from_o tertullian_n surius_n and_o walafrid_n strabo_n when_o therefore_o he_o say_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v not_o in_o their_o baptism_n sprinkle_v water_n with_o their_o hand_n but_o immerge_v the_o catechumen_n or_o the_o infant_n for_o those_o be_v his_o word_n which_o mr._n d._n disguise_n and_o curtail_n and_o shrink_v up_o into_o a_o bare_o but_o do_v immerge_n for_o end_n best_o know_v to_o himself_o but_o easy_o guessable_a at_o by_o any_o man_n though_o of_o no_o great_a ability_n than_o i_o be_o i_o say_v in_o so_o say_v his_o word_n can_v in_o reason_n be_v take_v as_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o absolute_o and_o universal_o all_o without_o exception_n be_v then_o immerge_v and_o none_o be_v sprinkle_v for_o that_o be_v contradictory_n to_o what_o himself_o afterward_o in_o the_o same_o paragraph_n say_v and_o prove_v as_o i_o have_v already_o note_v but_o that_o most_o and_o general_o it_o be_v so_o the_o contrary_a practice_n be_v so_o infrequent_a as_o not_o use_v in_o ordinary_a case_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v of_o high_a charity_n and_o great_a necessity_n that_o it_o be_v little_o take_v notice_n of_o in_o public_a so_o that_o speak_v according_a to_o what_o be_v general_o do_v and_o public_o observe_v he_o may_v infer_v from_o the_o authority_n by_o he_o insist_v on_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v not_o sprinkle_v but_o immersion_n but_o though_o it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o custom_n be_v not_o sprinkle_v but_o dip_v yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v thence_o that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o thing_n of_o that_o nature_n do_v in_o those_o time_n contrary_a to_o the_o custom_n for_o the_o contrary_n be_v apparent_a and_o therefore_o d._n cave_n in_o his_o testimony_n cite_v by_o mr._n d._n p._n 200._o speak_v wary_o and_o safe_o in_o the_o case_n say_v not_o absolute_o that_o it_o be_v the_o constant_a and_o universal_a custom_n of_o those_o time_n but_o the_o almost_o constant_a and_o universal_a custom_n and_o so_o b._n taylor_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v if_o we_o will_v make_v he_o consistent_a with_o himself_o as_o we_o must_v do_v or_o else_o his_o testimony_n will_v be_v nothing_o worth_a on_o either_o side_n and_o he_o will_v be_v no_o more_o against_o we_o than_o for_o we_o and_o his_o quote_v will_v signify_v nothing_o more_o but_o that_o the_o quoter_n have_v a_o mind_n to_o make_v a_o noise_n with_o his_o name_n and_o object_v he_o to_o we_o as_o be_v a_o eminent_a not_o only_a member_n of_o but_o minister_n in_o our_o church_n and_o a_o bishop_n in_o that_o church_n wherein_o he_o live_v when_o he_o publish_v that_o write_n at_o least_o the_o second_o time_n i_o wonder_v the_o quoter_n do_v not_o take_v notice_n of_o this_o conclusive_a passage_n of_o he_o and_o especial_o of_o what_o follow_v immediate_o add_v to_o the_o word_n recite_v by_o i_o viz._n that_o that_o custom_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v in_o pursuance_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o commandment_n and_o the_o example_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n which_o if_o he_o have_v i_o have_v give_v answer_n thereto_o in_o these_o paper_n ch_n 10._o and_o 16._o i_o shall_v only_o make_v this_o remark_n upon_o it_o in_o favour_n of_o mr._n d._n that_o he_o be_v the_o more_o pardonable_a if_o he_o sometime_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o what_o be_v against_o he_o when_o he_o can_v pass_v by_o some_o and_o such_o notice_n that_o seem_v to_o be_v for_o he_o but_o if_o there_o be_v wilfulness_n on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o but_o inadvertency_n on_o the_o other_o side_n i_o shall_v then_o plead_v nothing_o for_o he_o but_o leave_v he_o there_o to_o plead_v for_o himself_o §_o 52._o but_o mr._n d._n go_v on_o and_o i_o shall_v follow_v he_o and_o this_o immersion_n say_v he_o from_o dr._n taylor_n be_v of_o so_o sacred_a a_o account_n in_o their_o esteem_n that_o they_o do_v not_o account_v it_o lawful_a to_o receive_v he_o into_o the_o clergy_n who_o have_v be_v only_o sprinkle_a in_o his_o baptism_n as_o we_o learn_v from_o the_o epistle_n of_o cornelius_n to_o fabianus_n of_o antioch_n euseb_n l._n 9_o c._n 43._o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a that_o he_o who_o be_v sprinkle_v in_o his_o bed_n by_o reason_n of_o sickness_n shall_v be_v admit_v into_o holy_a order_n doubt_v whether_o such_o a_o sprinkle_v shall_v be_v call_v baptism_n §_o 53._o i_o wonder_v mr._n d._n shall_v produce_v this_o instance_n because_o it_o be_v a_o unanswerable_a

rome_n i_o ask_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o abolish_n if_o he_o say_v the_o cessation_n of_o it_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o canonical_a decree_n of_o that_o church_n than_o i_o shall_v require_v the_o council_n and_o canon_n by_o which_o its_o abolition_n be_v decree_v and_o be_v of_o opinion_n till_o i_o see_v the_o contrary_a that_o none_o such_o will_v be_v produce_v if_o by_o abolish_n he_o mean_v disuse_v than_o i_o grant_v that_o in_o that_o sense_n this_o custom_n be_v indeed_o that_o abolish_v when_o that_o author_n write_v but_o i_o must_v say_v withal_o that_o it_o be_v not_o then_o first_o abolish_v but_o long_o before_o and_o that_o the_o begin_n of_o such_o its_o abolition_n be_v like_o the_o head_n of_o nilus_n undiscoverable_a the_o custom_n grow_v by_o insensible_a degree_n from_o be_v at_o first_o almost_o universal_a to_o become_v at_o last_o almost_o quite_o out_o of_o use_n if_o yet_o at_o all_o it_o be_v use_v in_o that_o church_n so_o little_a grist_n be_v by_o this_o testimony_n bring_v to_o the_o anabaptist_n mill_n §_o 22._o from_o he_o mr._n d._n proceed_v to_o walafridus_n strabo_n who_o de_n reb._n eccles_n tell_v we_o that_o we_o must_v know_v that_o the_o first_o believer_n be_v baptize_v simple_o in_o flood_n and_o fountain_n §_o 23._o well_o admit_v this_o it_o follow_v not_o first_o that_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o flood_n and_o fountain_n be_v total_o immerse_v into_o they_o they_o may_v be_v but_o sprinkle_v or_o but_o partial_o dip_v in_o flood_n or_o fountain_n §_o 24._o second_o it_o follow_v not_o hence_o that_o if_o any_o believer_n be_v total_o immerse_v all_o be_v so_o the_o expression_n be_v but_o indefinite_a and_o not_o universal_a and_o it_o be_v true_a if_o but_o some_o believer_n be_v so_o baptize_v but_o that_o all_o believer_n be_v so_o baptize_v as_o he_o do_v not_o say_v so_o it_o be_v if_o he_o have_v say_v it_o without_o convince_a evidence_n to_o prove_v its_o truth_n §_o 25._o nay_o three_o that_o he_o do_v mean_v his_o word_n but_o indefinite_o and_o not_o universal_o be_v plain_a by_o his_o own_o word_n that_o follow_v which_o mr._n d._n think_v it_o not_o for_o his_o interest_n to_o discover_v it_o be_v say_v he_o to_o be_v note_v that_o many_o have_v be_v baptize_v not_o only_o by_o dip_v but_o also_o by_o pour_v water_n from_o above_o upon_o they_o and_o he_o have_v give_v before_o a_o instance_n in_o lucillus_n baptize_v by_o st._n laurence_n that_o way_n and_o that_o they_o may_v still_o be_v so_o baptize_v 26._o notandum_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la mergendo_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la desuper_fw-la fundendo_fw-la multos_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la posse_fw-la baptizari_fw-la etc._n etc._n hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la solet_fw-la evenire_fw-la cùm_fw-la provectiorum_fw-la granditas_fw-la corporum_fw-la in_o minoribus_fw-la vasibus_fw-la hominem_fw-la tingi_fw-la non_fw-la patitur_fw-la walafrib_o strabo_n de_fw-fr reb._n eccles_n c._n 26._o add_v also_o a_o account_n on_o which_o it_o be_v usual_a to_o baptize_v otherwise_o than_o by_o dip_v even_o when_o the_o font_n be_v too_o little_a to_o contain_v the_o great_a body_n §_o 26._o his_o next_o author_n be_v mr._n fox_n and_o he_o as_o mr._n d._n say_v tell_v we_o in_o his_o act_n and_o monument_n part_n 1._o pag._n 138._o out_o of_o fabian_n c._n 119_o 120._o that_o austin_n and_o paulinus_n do_v in_o the_o seven_o century_n baptize_v here_o in_o england_n great_a multitude_n in_o the_o river_n trent_n and_o the_o river_n swol_n where_o note_v by_o the_o way_n say_v mr._n fox_n it_o follow_v there_o be_v no_o use_n of_o font_n the_o like_a also_o as_o you_o will_v hereafter_o find_v germanus_n and_o lupus_n the_o two_o french_a evangelist_n do_v in_o the_o five_o century_n baptize_v multitude_n in_o the_o river_n allin_n near_o chester_n §_o 27._o grant_v all_o this_o and_o what_o then_o then_o it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o some_o be_v baptize_v in_o england_n in_o two_o several_a century_n by_o immersion_n because_o many_o be_v baptize_v in_o river_n yet_o i_o say_v it_o be_v but_o probable_a not_o certain_a unless_o appear_v from_o other_o evidence_n because_o a_o man_n may_v be_v baptize_v in_o a_o river_n without_o be_v total_o immerse_v into_o it_o and_o in_o that_o multitude_n be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o those_o river_n it_o make_v it_o the_o more_o probable_a that_o the_o baptism_n be_v not_o by_o a_o total_a immersion_n because_o the_o labour_n and_o time_n be_v more_o in_o baptise_v so_o than_o otherwise_o and_o when_o the_o baptizer_n be_v but_o one_o or_o but_o a_o few_o and_o the_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v many_o reason_n will_v prompt_v that_o the_o more_o compendious_a and_o less_o troublesome_a way_n shall_v be_v take_v and_o that_o be_v sprinkle_v pour_v on_o of_o water_n or_o partial_a mersation_n into_o it_o §_o 28._o and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o font_n as_o mr._n fox_n note_n than_o there_o be_v the_o more_o 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this_o question_n which_o be_v not_o whether_o any_o or_o what_o number_n be_v baptize_v by_o dip_v but_o whether_o never_o any_o in_o the_o church_n be_v baptize_v by_o sprinkle_v or_o other_o way_n than_o by_o a_o total_a immersion_n §_o 29._o have_v write_v thus_o much_o on_o supposition_n of_o integrity_n in_o the_o quotation_n i_o resolve_v to_o consult_v the_o author_n himself_o and_o though_o not_o according_a to_o the_o quotation_n make_v by_o mr._n d._n of_o part_n 1._o p._n 138_o etc._n etc._n yet_o in_o pag._n 107._o col_fw-fr 2._o l._n 70_o etc._n etc._n i_o find_v this_o which_o follow_v but_o to_o return_v to_o austin_n again_o who_o by_o report_n of_o author_n be_v depart_v before_o this_o cruelty_n be_v do_v after_o he_o have_v baptize_v and_o christen_v ten_o thousand_o saxon_n or_o angles_n in_o the_o west_n river_n that_o be_v call_v small_a beside_o york_n on_o christmass-day_n perceive_v his_o end_n to_o draw_v near_o he_o ordain_v a_o successor_n name_v 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