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scripture_n three_o you_o cry_v pag._n 282._o lin_v 24._o one_o father_n that_o expound_v this_o place_n literal_o according_a to_o your_o sense_n i_o answer_v first_o no_o father_n nor_o catholic_a deny_v this_o literal_a sense_n and_o athanasius_n be_v bring_v by_o turrianus_n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr dogmat._n charact._n thus_o expound_v second_o protestant_n who_o appeal_n unto_o the_o scripture_n as_o unto_o the_o last_o judge_n to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n be_v bind_v to_o take_v the_o word_n of_o scripture_n in_o the_o literal_a sense_n except_o they_o can_v clear_o demonstrate_v by_o scripture_n the_o literal_a sense_n to_o be_v absurd_a otherwise_o if_o without_o evident_a proof_n by_o scripture_n they_o metaphorize_v the_o scripture_n they_o appeal_v not_o unto_o scripture_n but_o unto_o their_o own_o fancy_n but_o by_o scripture_n you_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o literal_a paint_n of_o our_o saviour_n image_n as_o crucify_a be_v absurd_a more_o than_o the_o paint_n of_o 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final_o the_o minister_n who_o here_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o signify_v be_v depaint_v elsewhere_o pag._n 213._o lin_v 26._o say_v the_o contrary_a to_o wit_n that_o s._n paul_n do_v testify_v galat_n 3.1_o that_o by_o the_o gospel_n christ_n jesus_n be_v depaint_v before_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o soul_n now_o how_o can_v this_o be_v true_a except_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d proper_o signify_v be_v depaint_v and_o be_v thence_o transfer_v by_o metaphor_n unto_o preach_v senseless_a and_o of_o this_o material_a picture_v of_o christ_n crucify_v athanasius_n expound_v this_o place_n who_o turrianus_n cit_v de_n dogmat._n carat_n l._n 4._o wherefore_o i_o may_v just_o say_v that_o we_o have_v more_o clear_a &_o express_v scripture_n for_o the_o use_n of_o image_n then_o have_v protestant_n for_o their_o translation_n and_o therefore_o the_o danger_n of_o ignorant_a people_n err_v by_o image_n be_v without_o reason_n so_o much_o insist_v upon_o by_o 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myself_o but_o only_o mention_v some_o of_o they_o the_o first_o be_v a_o easy_a and_o compendious_a way_n of_o instruction_n in_o which_o respect_n they_o be_v term_v by_o s._n gregory_n 109._o gregory_n lib._n 7._o ep._n 109._o the_o book_n of_o the_o unlearned_a and_o as_o another_o gregory_n theodorum_fw-la gregory_n nissen_n â—rat_fw-la in_o theodorum_fw-la say_v the_o silent_a picture_n speak_v on_o the_o wall_n and_o profit_v very_o much_o the_o second_o be_v to_o increase_v in_o man_n that_o keep_v &_o honour_v they_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o of_o his_o saint_n which_o effect_n s_n mediator_n s_n orat._n quod_fw-la veteris_fw-la &_o novi_fw-la testamenti_fw-la unius_fw-la sit_fw-la mediator_n chrysostome_n experience_v as_o he_o testify_v say_v i_o love_v a_o picture_n of_o melt_a wax_n full_a of_o piety_n and_o s._n 53._o s._n lib._n 7._o epist_n 53._o gregory_n the_o great_a say_v they_o inflame_v man_n that_o behold_v they_o in_o the_o love_n
saviour_n under_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o that_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o be_v my_o body_n be_v true_a in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n this_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o the_o answerer_n omit_v to_o prove_v large_o this_o catholic_a doctrine_n now_o the_o minister_n find_v himself_o unable_a upon_o this_o supposition_n of_o his_o majesty_n to_o answer_v the_o jesuit_n argument_n for_o transubstantiation_n yea_o pag._n 397._o affirm_v that_o unless_o transubstantiation_n be_v grant_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n can_v be_v true_a in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n hence_o he_o deny_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n substantial_o within_o the_o sacred_a sign_n &_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v figurative_o and_o not_o proper_o to_o be_v understand_v he_o grant_v a_o real_a and_o true_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o word_n but_o so_o obscure_o as_o no_o man_n be_v able_a to_o 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saint_n with_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o church_n treasure_n not_o because_o we_o believe_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v insufficient_a alone_o to_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n nisi_fw-la velut_fw-la arescentis_fw-la &_o exhausti_fw-la defectus_fw-la aliunde_fw-la suppleatur_fw-la &_o sufficiatur_fw-la as_o mistake_o not_o to_o say_v calumnious_o caluin_n lib._n 4._o instit._fw-la cap._n 9_o n._n 39_o report_v of_o us._n for_o pope_n clement_n the_o 6._o who_o protestant_n accuse_v as_o the_o first_o author_n of_o this_o treasure_n affirm_v even_o in_o his_o constitution_n about_o this_o matter_n that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a price_n and_o every_o drop_n thereof_o sufficient_a to_o ctncell_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o conjunction_n be_v these_o three_o first_o that_o penal_a work_n of_o saint_n as_o they_o be_v satisfactory_a be_v not_o without_o fruit_n for_o be_v satisfactory_a and_o not_o have_v the_o effect_n of_o satisfaction_n in_o their_o own_o innocent_a &_o undefiled_a person_n they_o will_v be_v without_o this_o fruit_n and_o effect_n except_o they_o be_v apply_v unto_o other_o that_o be_v poor_a and_o needy_a in_o who_o satisfaction_n be_v scant_o and_o the_o debt_n of_o temporal_a pain_n abound_v the_o second_o be_v the_o glory_n of_o christ_n who_o merit_n be_v so_o powerful_a as_o to_o purchase_v to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n such_o excellent_a &_o admirable_a saint_n so_o pure_a of_o life_n so_o fervent_a in_o penance_n as_o their_o satisfaction_n may_v suffice_v to_o pay_v the_o debt_n of_o temporal_a pain_n due_a unto_o other_o the_o three_o reason_n be_v to_o make_v man_n love_v the_o church_n and_o society_n of_o saint_n whereby_o they_o come_v to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o aboundancy_n of_o her_o treasure_n to_o pay_v their_o grievous_a debt_n this_o be_v that_o comfortable_a article_n of_o the_o apostle_n put_v down_o in_o the_o creed_n to_o be_v know_v of_o every_o one_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n this_o be_v that_o which_o make_v king_n david_n exult_v say_v 63._o say_v psal._n 118._o vers_fw-la 63._o i_o be_o partaker_n with_o all_o they_o that_o fear_v thou_o &_o keep_v thy_o commaundment_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n the_o apostle_n exhort_v we_o 12._o we_o coloss._n 1._o v._o 12._o gratias_fw-la agamus_fw-la deo_fw-la patri_fw-la qui_fw-la dignos_fw-la nos_fw-la fecit_fw-la in_o partem_fw-la sortis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la in_o lumine_fw-la this_o be_v that_o which_o the_o same_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o corinthian_n 1.8.14_o exhort_v they_o to_o be_v liberal_a towards_o titus_n and_o luke_n for_o the_o present_n let_v your_o abundance_n in_o temporal_a good_n supply_v their_o want_n that_o also_o their_o abundance_n in_o pious_a work_n may_v be_v a_o supplement_n unto_o your_o want_n this_o hope_n to_o supply_v in_o this_o kind_a the_o spiritual_a need_n of_o christian_n by_o the_o abundance_n of_o his_o suffering_n make_v saint_n paul_n so_o much_o rejoice_v in_o they_o 24._o they_o coloss._n 1._o 24._o i_o joy_n say_v he_o in_o my_o suffering_n for_o you_o and_o i_o make_v full_a the_o thing_n that_o want_v of_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n in_o my_o flesh_n for_o his_o body_n which_o be_v the_o church_n and_o again_o 12.15_o again_o 2._o cor._n 12.15_o cupio_fw-la impendi_fw-la &_o superimpendi_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la out_o of_o which_o word_n num._n word_n origen_n hom_n 10._o in_o num._n origen_n gather_v that_o s._n paul_n as_o a_o kind_n of_o victim_n or_o sacrifice_n do_v expiate_v the_o sin_n of_o other_o not_o satisfy_v for_o the_o injury_n against_o god_n nor_o for_o the_o eternal_a punishment_n due_a but_o for_o one_o outward_a and_o transitory_a effect_n of_o sin_n to_o wit_n the_o debt_n of_o temporal_a pain_n in_o this_o sense_n also_o saint_n augustine_n interprete_v the_o former_a word_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o suffer_v in_o his_o body_n the_o thing_n want_v of_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n 61._o christ_n aug._n in_o ep_v 61._o patitur_fw-la christus_fw-la in_o membris_fw-la suis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la nobis_fw-la ipsis_fw-la ad_fw-la communem_fw-la hanc_fw-la quasi_fw-la republicam_fw-la nam_fw-la cuique_fw-la pro_fw-la modulo_fw-la nostro_fw-la exoluimus_fw-la quod_fw-la debemus_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la posse_fw-la virium_fw-la nostrarum_fw-la quasi_fw-la canonem_fw-la passionum_fw-la inferimus_fw-la paratoriâ_fw-la plenariâ_fw-la christ_n suffer_v in_o his_o member_n that_o be_v even_o in_o we_o as_o for_o a_o commonwealth_n for_o every_o one_o of_o we_o pay_v his_o own_o debt_n according_a to_o his_o mean_a power_n &_o according_a to_o his_o force_n put_v into_o the_o plenary_a storehouse_n a_o certain_a measure_n of_o suffering_n this_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o at_o the_o petition_n of_o constant_a confessor_n in_o prison_n do_v relieve_v the_o penalty_n that_o sinner_n be_v enjoin_v to_o perform_v to_o satisfy_v not_o only_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n but_o also_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n after_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n still_o continue_v unto_o the_o infliction_n of_o temporal_a pain_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o 15._o of_o cypr._n l._n 3._o ep_v 15._o saint_n cyprian_n and_o that_o this_o relaxation_n of_o temporal_a pain_n be_v do_v by_o apply_v the_o abundant_a satisfaction_n of_o holy_a confessor_n and_o design_v martyr_n unto_o the_o penitent_n that_o receive_v indulgence_n at_o their_o intercession_n appear_v by_o tertullian_n for_o he_o fall_v from_o the_o church_n into_o the_o error_n of_o montanus_n whereof_o one_o be_v that_o for_o christian_n sin_v after_o baptism_n there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n refute_v the_o catholic_a custom_n of_o remit_v penalty_n unto_o sinner_n for_o the_o merit_n of_o martyr_n speak_v thus_o 22._o thus_o tertul._n lib._n de_fw-la pudicit_fw-la cap._n 22._o let_v it_o suffice_v the_o martyr_n they_o 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