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A03944 An adioynder to the late Catholike new yeares gift, or explication of the oath of allegeance Wherein certaine principall difficulties, obiected by a very learned Roman-Catholike, against the sayd New-yeares gift, and explication of the oath, are very clearely explained. Published by E.I. the author of the New-yeares gift. Preston, Thomas, 1563-1640. 1620 (1620) STC 14050; ESTC S100127 50,683 158

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