Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	speak_v	understand_v	word_n	5,901	5	4.4514	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66394	A discourse concerning the celebration of divine service in an unknown tongue	Williams, John, 1636?-1709.	1685 (1685)	Wing W2702; ESTC R1943	35,062	62

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