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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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not_o only_o for_o their_o not_o believe_v in_o christ_n but_o also_o for_o their_o unmercifulnesse_n idolatry_n adultery_n and_o other_o crime_n math._n 25.41.42_o rom._n 2.5_o 9_o second_o the_o sin_n of_o unbelief_n cleave_v unto_o all_o adam_n child_n as_o other_o sin_n and_o shall_v be_v impute_v as_o well_o as_o the_o sin_n of_o lust_n or_o any_o other_o iniquity_n three_o to_o believe_v be_v not_o in_o the_o will_n or_o power_n of_o man_n but_o be_v the_o gracious_a gift_n of_o god_n to_o such_o as_o he_o have_v ordain_v unto_o life_n eph._n 2_o 8_o act_n 13.48_o again_o they_o allege_v 116._o that_o adam_n by_o that_o transgression_n deprive_v himself_o of_o god_n favour_n in_o that_o estate_n wherein_o he_o be_v in_o paradise_n and_o notwithstanding_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n have_v by_o his_o si●_n procure_v this_o judgement_n curse_v be_v the_o earth_n for_o thy_o sake_n &c_n &c_n gen._n 3._o thus_o adam_n bring_v himself_o and_o all_o his_o posterity_n the_o earth_n 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psal._n 51._o second_o it_o be_v another_o abuse_n of_o scripture_n that_o they_o say_v weak_a flesh_n be_v call_v sinful_a fl●sh_n in_o which_o christ_n come_v rom._n 8.1_o where_o first_o they_o make_v david_n no_o more_o a_o sinner_n at_o his_o birth_n than_o christ_n himself_o contrary_a to_o the_o whole_a tenor_n of_o this_o psalm_n and_o contrary_a to_o rom._n 5._o as_o be_v before_o show_v then_o they_o falsify_v the_o text_n in_o rom._n 8.1.3_o for_o the_o weakness_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v in_o the_o law_n it_o be_v weak_a through_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o not_o able_a to_o save_v sinner_n three_o by_o flesh_n there_o paul_n mean_v not_o the_o substance_n of_o flesh_n for_o that_o weaken_v not_o the_o law_n nor_o hinder_v man_n salvation_n it_o be_v the_o good_a creature_n of_o god_n as_o be_v the_o soul_n or_o spirit_n but_o he_o mean_v by_o flesh_n our_o corrupt_a sinful_a state_n in_o soul_n and_o body_n for_o he_o say_v in_o verse_n 8._o they_o that_o be_v in_o the_o flesh_n can_v please_v god_n if_o flesh_n mean_v our_o bodily_a substance_n than_o no_o man_n live_v in_o the_o body_n can_v please_v god_n not_o the_o prophet_n not_o the_o apostle_n no_o nor_o christ_n himself_o for_o he_o live_v in_o our_o flesh_n in_o our_o humame_n nature_n and_o the_o apostle_n shall_v speak_v untrue_o in_o the_o nine_o verse_n you_o be_v not_o in_o the_o fl●sh_n wherefore_o flesh_n in_o rom._n 8._o signify_v our_o unregenerate_a state_n as_o in_o genes_n 6.3_o john_n 3.6_o rom._n 7.18_o &_o 8.5.9_o four_o it_o be_v another_o falsification_n when_o they_o say_v sinful_a flesh_n in_o which_o christ_n come_v the_o scripture_n say_v not_o in_o sinful_a flesh_n but_o in_o the_o likeness_n of_o sinful_a flesh_n rom._n 8.3_o five_o weakness_n or_o infirmity_n as_o it_o mean_v not_o sin_n but_o affliction_n such_o christ_n have_v such_o the_o apostle_n take_v pleasure_n 2_o cor._n 12_o 10_o but_o infirmity_n as_o it_o mean_v sin_n christ_n have_v not_o he_o be_v oppose_v herein_o to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o law_n which_o have_v infirmity_n or_o weakness_n heb._n 7_o 27_o 28_o and_o 4_o 15_o but_o david_n in_o psal._n 51_o confess_v such_o infirmity_n if_o they_o will_v have_v it_o so_o call_v as_o be_v sin_n and_o iniquity_n which_o prove_v he_o be_v a_o transgressor_n from_o the_o womb_n and_o not_o without_o sin_n as_o be_v christ._n 6_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o be_v make_v sin_n for_o we_o 2_o cor._n 5_o 21_o these_o word_n for_o we_o the_o adversary_n balk_v and_o omit_v david_n be_v not_o make_v sin_n for_o we_o or_o for_o any_o but_o be_v himself_o conceive_v in_o sin_n christ_n be_v himself_o no_o sinner_n yet_o be_v he_o make_v sin_n that_o be_v a_o sin-offering_n for_o we_o to_o purge_v we_o and_o make_v we_o the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n in_o he_o for_o the_o sin-offering_a be_v usual_o call_v sin_n in_o the_o law_n leu._n 4_o 3_o 8_o 14_o 20_o 24_o etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n expound_v it_o for_o sin_n mean_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n heb._n 10_o 6_o from_o psal._n 40_o thus_o christ_n be_v a_o sin_n that_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n but_o david_n be_v not_o so_o therefore_o these_o place_n speak_v not_o of_o sin_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o sense_n but_o in_o the_o contrary_n david_n complain_v of_o his_o own_o sin_n and_o guiltiness_n paul_n speak_v of_o christ_n his_o purge_v david_n and_o we_o all_o from_o sin_n and_o guiltiness_n by_o be_v make_v a_o sin_n offer_v for_o we_o their_o former_a answer_n be_v so_o apparent_o against_o the_o truth_n that_o david_n acknowledge_v sin_n they_o will_v have_v it_o no_o sin_n but_o weakness_n they_o devise_v to_o darken_v the_o light_n with_o a_o other_o cloud_n as_o if_o david_n speak_v not_o of_o his_o own_o estate_n but_o his_o mother_n and_o then_o say_v they_o it_o be_v the_o curse_n or_o punishment_n for_o sin_n lay_v upon_o she_o gen._n 3_o 16_o where_o the_o very_a word_n agree_v with_o these_o of_o david_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v frequent_a in_o scripture_n to_o call_v punishment_n for_o sin_n by_o the_o name_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v neither_o david_n sin_n nor_o his_o mother_n that_o he_o here_o confess_v to_o speak_v proper_o but_o his_o mother_n punishment_n answ._n as_o a_o bird_n in_o the_o net_n so_o the_o more_o they_o strive_v the_o more_o they_o be_v entangle_v first_o the_o whole_a scope_n of_o the_o psalm_n be_v that_o david_n may_v find_v mercy_n with_o the_o lord_n for_o his_o own_o sin_n as_o any_o that_o read_v it_o may_v see_v and_o that_o in_o supplicate_v to_o god_n for_o grace_v before_o and_o after_o he_o shall_v here_o insert_v a_o complaint_n of_o his_o mother_n punishment_n be_v without_o any_o colour_n of_o truth_n but_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n and_o suitable_a to_o his_o other_o word_n that_o lament_v his_o actual_a transgression_n he_o bewail_v the_o evil_a fountain_n whence_o they_o flow_v to_o weet_v his_o native_a corruption_n which_o bring_v forth_o these_o 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and_o beast_n teach_v all_o that_o such_o conceive_n be_v with_o delight_n not_o with_o pain_n and_o therefore_o david_n use_v such_o a_o word_n when_o he_o tell_v how_o his_o mother_n conceive_v he_o can_v in_o any_o reasonable_a man_n understanding_n mean_v his_o mother_n corporal_a pain_n or_o punishment_n as_o these_o corrupter_n of_o the_o scripture_n do_v feign_v they_o proceed_v and_o say_v that_o david_n do_v not_o sin_n in_o be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v 120._o the_o soul_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o sin_n for_o from_o the_o soul_n or_o heart_n come_v wickedness_n mat._n 15_o 19_o the_o soul_n come_v from_o god_n the_o matter_n of_o the_o body_n from_o the_o parent_n the_o soul_n be_v very_o good_a come_n from_o god_n the_o body_n have_v not_o sin_v till_o it_o be_v infect_v with_o the_o soul_n by_o transgression_n of_o a_o law_n and_o see_v th●y_o affirm_v that_o the_o very_a matter_n or_o substance_n whereof_o david_n be_v make_v be_v sin_n and_o that_o this_o be_v it_o he_o 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