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tenet_n he_o tell_v we_o first_o that_o lombard_n scotus_n and_o many_o other_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n any_o formal_a proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o cite_v in_o the_o margin_n lombard_n 4._o sent._n do_v 10._o but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o he_o as_o i_o shall_v more_o full_o show_v in_o declare_v his_o doctrine_n he_o bring_v in_o scotus_n also_o 4._o dist_n 2._o qu._n 11._o whereas_o there_o be_v only_o two_o question_n in_o that_o distinction_n his_o next_o quotation_n be_v bellarmine_n dicit_fw-la bellar._n de_fw-fr euch._n l._n 3._o c._n 23._o ff_n secundo_fw-la dicit_fw-la who_o he_o say_v confess_v and_o cite_v many_o other_o of_o the_o same_o opinion_n that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o formal_a proof_n from_o scripture_n that_o without_o that_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n will_v be_v able_a to_o evince_v it_o it_o be_v true_a bellarmine_n here_o acknowledge_v that_o scotus_n say_v there_o be_v not_o any_o place_n in_o 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plain_o contain_v in_o scripture_n or_o plain_o determine_v by_o the_o church_n but_o that_o it_o neither_o appear_v manifest_o from_o scripture_n nor_o from_o the_o church_n declaration_n nor_o be_v it_o evident_o infer_v from_o either_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n do_v not_o remain_v in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o answer_v it_o n._n 15._o thus_o that_o the_o church_n have_v declare_v it_o in_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n c._n firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la in_o which_o chapter_n he_o tell_v we_o the_o truth_n of_o some_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v be_v more_o explicit_o declare_v than_o they_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n or_o in_o that_o of_o nice_n or_o that_o of_o st._n athanasius_n so_o that_o from_o hence_o some_o have_v conclude_v that_o scotus_n probable_o hold_v this_o assertion_n that_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o evince_v it_o as_o also_o the_o other_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o so_o explicit_o believe_v 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presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o truth_n which_o be_v express_o deliver_v from_o the_o beginning_n even_o from_o the_o very_a time_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o eucharist_n his_o word_n be_v ista_fw-la enim_fw-la veritas_fw-la a_o principio_fw-la fuit_fw-la expressè_fw-la tradita_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la eucharistia_n fuit_fw-la instituta_fw-la and_o he_o add_v that_o the_o foundation_n of_o that_o authority_n be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o institution_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n which_o he_o say_v can_v be_v take_v figurative_o if_o we_o observe_v the_o rule_n of_o st._n augustin_n 69._o aug._n 83._o quest_n qu._n 69._o that_o the_o circumstance_n of_o scripture_n do_v clear_a the_o sense_n of_o it_o for_o christ_n have_v add_v to_o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o circumstance_n which_o shall_v be_v brokeâ—_n for_o you_o and_o to_o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o blood_n thâ—â—_n circumstance_n which_o shall_v be_v shed_v for_o you_o it_o be_v manifest_a they_o ought_v to_o be_v take_v in_o a_o literal_a sense_n then_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o cardinal_n cajetan_n acknowledge_v that_o have_v not_o the_o church_n declare_v herself_o for_o the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n the_o other_o may_v with_o as_o good_a warrant_n have_v be_v receive_v and_o quote_v he_o in_o 3._o d._n thomae_n qu._n 75._o art_n 1._o but_o he_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n nay_o rather_o the_o contrary_a as_o will_v appear_v to_o any_o one_o who_o read_v that_o article_n in_o which_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o learn_v from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n take_v in_o their_o proper_a sense_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v true_o in_o the_o eucharist_n which_o be_v the_o first_o thing_n say_v he_o which_o we_o learn_v concern_v this_o sacrament_n from_o the_o gospel_n
and_o proper_o speak_v though_o not_o possible_o in_o such_o a_o rigorous_a sense_n as_o may_v be_v put_v upon_o the_o word_n if_o she_o do_v not_o what_o mean_v her_o ordination_n and_o the_o title_n of_o priesthood_n which_o her_o minister_n challenge_v with_o so_o much_o earnestness_n and_o if_o she_o do_v why_o will_v he_o quarrel_v with_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n for_o call_v it_o a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrifice_n 22._o sess_n 22._o etc._n etc._n a_o true_a and_o proper_a priesthood_n especial_o since_o the_o same_o council_n tell_v we_o that_o this_o sacrifice_n be_v institute_v only_o to_o represent_v that_o which_o be_v once_o accomplish_v upon_o the_o cross_n to_o perpetuate_v the_o memory_n of_o it_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n r._n sess_n 22._o c._n r._n and_o so_o apply_v to_o we_o the_o save_a virtue_n of_o it_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o those_o sin_n which_o we_o commit_v every_o day_n in_o a_o word_n the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n have_v express_v himself_o so_o clear_o and_o consequent_o to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n that_o i_o can_v but_o admire_v any_o one_o who_o affirm_v as_o this_o author_n do_v that_o the_o doctrine_n the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n have_v express_v 63._o pag._n 63._o be_v true_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o such_o as_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v never_o refuse_v and_o except_o it_o be_v their_o doubt_n of_o the_o corporeal_a presence_n mons_fw-la de_fw-fr meaux_n have_v certain_o reason_n to_o expect_v there_o be_v nothing_o in_o it_o which_o they_o can_v just_o except_v against_o i_o can_v i_o say_v but_o admire_v he_o shall_v upon_o no_o better_a ground_n than_o a_o pure_a cavil_v about_o the_o name_n and_o nature_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n when_o take_v in_o the_o strict_a sense_n and_o the_o word_n corporeal_a instead_o of_o real_a 62._o pag._n 62._o affirm_v this_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o dangerous_a error_n that_o offend_v they_o but_o the_o breach_n must_v be_v keep_v open_a and_o widen_v too_o if_o possible_a and_o because_o the_o offering_n of_o christ_n once_o make_v be_v that_o proper_a redemption_n propitiation_n and_o satisfaction_n for_o all_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n but_o that_o alone_a 31._o article_n 31._o as_o their_o article_n express_v it_o and_o we_o allow_v therefore_o this_o author_n must_v from_o thence_o conclude_v that_o the_o representation_n commemoration_n and_o application_n of_o that_o first_o offer_v by_o those_o who_o be_v member_n of_o that_o priesthood_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedec_n which_o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o be_v to_o be_v perpetual_a must_v not_o be_v call_v a_o true_a 6._o heb._n 6._o proper_a and_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n though_o it_o be_v only_a commemorative_n and_o applicatory_a art_fw-la xvii_o of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n but_o the_o next_o article_n show_v we_o more_o manifest_o 67._o art_n 21._o p._n 67._o that_o all_o this_o dispute_n be_v pure_o de_fw-la nomine_fw-la in_o which_o it_o manifest_o appear_v that_o he_o mistake_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n offer_v 32._o pag._n 32._o as_o use_v by_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o this_o place_n for_o the_o bishop_n of_o meaux_n tell_v we_o the_o catholic_a church_n form_n her_o language_n and_o her_o doctrine_n not_o from_o the_o sole_a epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n but_o from_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o therefore_o though_o in_o that_o strict_a sense_n in_o which_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n use_v the_o word_n offer_v jesus_n christ_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v now_o offer_v neither_o in_o the_o eucharist_n nor_o any_o where_o else_o yet_o because_o in_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n the_o word_n be_v use_v in_o a_o large_a signification_n where_o it_o be_v often_o say_v we_o offer_v to_o god_n what_o we_o present_v before_o he_o therefore_o she_o do_v not_o doubt_v to_o say_v that_o she_o offer_v up_o our_o bless_a jesus_n to_o his_o father_n in_o the_o eucharist_n in_o which_o he_o vouchsafe_v to_o render_v himself_o present_a before_o he_o but_o this_o must_v not_o suffice_v for_o than_o that_o which_o he_o call_v the_o principal_a and_o most_o dangerous_a error_n will_v appear_v to_o be_v none_o at_o all_o and_o therefore_o because_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n speak_v of_o one_o offer_v which_o have_v full_o satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n of_o one_o offer_v which_o be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v offer_v that_o be_v of_o a_o offer_n in_o a_o strict_a sense_n in_o which_o there_o must_v be_v a_o real_a suffer_v and_o death_n of_o the_o victim_n therefore_o this_o epistle_n must_v be_v against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n though_o she_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o unbloody_a sacrifice_n of_o a_o commemorative_n sacrifice_n which_o without_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n will_v be_v no_o sacrifice_n which_o take_v its_o virtue_n efficacy_n and_o very_a name_n from_o it_o because_o it_o refer_v to_o it_o and_o apply_v the_o virtue_n of_o it_o to_o our_o soul_n let_v any_o one_o judge_n if_o this_o be_v not_o next_o door_n to_o a_o wilful_a misunderstanding_n of_o our_o tenet_n 63._o pag._n 63._o especial_o when_o he_o have_v before_o confess_v that_o the_o present_v to_o god_n almighty_a the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o bless_a lord_n be_v a_o most_o effectual_a manner_n of_o apply_v his_o merit_n to_o we_o and_o that_o if_o this_o be_v all_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n mean_v by_o her_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n there_o be_v not_o certain_o any_o protestant_n that_o will_v oppose_v she_o in_o it_o this_o be_v what_o she_o mean_v by_o it_o that_o be_v a_o application_n of_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n which_o be_v to_o be_v but_o once_o offer_v and_o from_o whence_o it_o take_v all_o its_o value_n but_o this_o he_o will_v not_o have_v to_o be_v our_o doctrine_n and_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n for_o it_o but_o because_o if_o he_o admit_v it_o to_o be_v so_o one_o of_o the_o great_a ground_n of_o their_o pretend_a reformation_n must_v needs_o vanish_v art_fw-la xviii_o reflection_n upon_o the_o forego_n doctrine_n his_o reflection_n upon_o this_o doctrine_n run_v altogether_o upon_o the_o same_o strain_n 69._o art_n 22._o p._n 69._o and_o therefore_o what_o i_o have_v say_v will_v suffice_v in_o answer_n to_o that_o article_n if_o he_o admit_v a_o real_a presence_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n reason_n must_v necessary_o assure_v we_o that_o where_o christ_n be_v real_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o where_o he_o real_o present_v himself_o to_o his_o father_n to_o render_v he_o propitious_a to_o we_o he_o may_v be_v say_v to_o offer_v up_o himself_o a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n and_o those_o who_o will_v admit_v the_o reality_n or_o not_o condemn_v the_o belief_n of_o it_o in_o 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