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A36252 A reply to Mr. Baxter's pretended confutation of a book entituled, Separation of churches from episcopal government, &c. proved schismatical to which are added, three letters written to him in the year 1673, concerning the possibility of discipline under a diocesan-government ... / by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1681 (1681) Wing D1817; ESTC R3354 153,974 372

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avoid_v prolixity_n xxviii_o and_o therefore_o at_o present_a shall_v only_o brief_o make_v application_n to_o the_o forementioned_a condition_n of_o dissimulation_n 1._o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o every_o sufferer_n for_o his_o opinion_n must_v believe_v his_o cause_n to_o be_v good_a for_o there_o be_v bad_a as_o well_o as_o good_a of_o all_o much_o receive_a opinion_n that_o maintain_v they_o not_o upon_o account_n of_o their_o truth_n but_o because_o they_o be_v themselves_o factious_o dispose_v and_o love_v contradiction_n especial_o to_o superior_n a_o humour_n such_o people_n of_o the_o vulgar_a be_v usual_o too_o much_o addict_v to_o or_o affect_v popularity_n or_o singularity_n or_o promise_v themselves_o some_o great_a advantage_n by_o public_a innovation_n and_o disturbance_n or_o engage_v in_o a_o party_n out_o of_o kindness_n to_o their_o friend_n that_o be_v concern_v in_o it_o much_o less_o 2._o be_v it_o necessary_a that_o every_o one_o who_o do_v 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as_o the_o grecian_a for_o bury_v his_o dead_a relation_n and_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o believe_v if_o of_o too_o many_o who_o we_o find_v the_o most_o zealous_a maintainer_n of_o opinion_n controvert_v and_o yet_o the_o most_o negligent_a practiser_n of_o such_o as_o be_v undoubted_a which_o certain_o will_v not_o be_v if_o god_n sake_n or_o conscience_n or_o a_o sense_n of_o their_o own_o duty_n be_v the_o reason_n induce_v they_o to_o believe_v they_o now_o these_o deduction_n be_v make_v the_o number_n of_o conscientious_a dissenter_n will_v i_o doubt_v be_v general_o find_v the_o small_a and_o it_o be_v a_o general_a and_o just_a rule_n of_o public_a proceed_n not_o to_o forbear_v that_o which_o may_v general_o do_v good_a though_o it_o may_v prove_v inconvenient_a and_o prejudicial_a in_o some_o rare_a instance_n nor_o will_v these_o coercive_a mean_n oblige_v these_o dissenter_n upon_o motive_n not_o conscientious_a to_o dissimulation_n or_o hypocrisy_n but_o even_o for_o 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the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d reverence_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hence_o it_o appear_v that_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o other_o be_v concern_v in_o this_o his_o exhortation_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o much_o dispute_v of_o the_o youthfulness_n of_o their_o bishop_n person_n not_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o his_o order_n for_o it_o be_v that_o youthfulness_n which_o they_o be_v likely_a to_o take_v advantage_n of_o which_o be_v the_o notion_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o see_v here_o that_o even_a presbyter_n be_v not_o to_o take_v advantage_n even_o of_o a_o youthful_a bishop_n either_o for_o presume_v on_o too_o much_o familiarity_n with_o he_o or_o deny_v he_o the_o reverence_n due_a to_o his_o order_n though_o in_o a_o youthful_a person_n that_o they_o be_v to_o yield_v to_o he_o or_o rather_o to_o jesus_n christ_n who_o person_n be_v represent_v by_o he_o and_o sure_o you_o will_v not_o think_v much_o to_o be_v impose_v on_o by_o jesus_n christ_n that_o this_o duty_n be_v to_o be_v pay_v without_o all_o hypocrisy_n to_o the_o bishop_n for_o god_n sake_n who_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o deceive_v that_o harken_v to_o he_o for_o that_o be_v the_o notion_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o in_o the_o hellenistick_a style_n then_o in_o use_n be_v the_o same_o with_o obedience_n be_v part_n of_o that_o and_o that_o the_o disrespect_n to_o he_o in_o any_o of_o these_o duty_n redound_v to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n for_o who_o sake_n he_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v and_o now_o i_o pray_v consider_v how_o you_o can_v reconcile_v herewith_o your_o desire_a liberty_n of_o excommunicate_v without_o his_o privity_n or_o consent_n immediate_o after_o he_o blame_v they_o who_o give_v their_o bishop_n the_o honour_n of_o a_o empty_a name_n and_o yet_o do_v all_o thing_n without_o his_o privity_n and_o express_o censure_v they_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d man_n of_o no_o good_a conscience_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o beside_o the_o coherence_n former_o note_v it_o be_v plain_a that_o even_o presbyter_n also_o be_v include_v because_o he_o speak_v of_o assembly_n which_o can_v not_o be_v celebrate_v without_o some_o act_n of_o priestly_a power_n and_o if_o such_o assembly_n be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o command_n nor_o the_o rule_n of_o good_a conscience_n how_o your_o proceed_n without_o the_o consent_n or_o privity_n of_o your_o bishop_n can_v be_v excusable_a i_o do_v not_o understand_v in_o the_o epistle_n ad_fw-la trallian_n after_o have_v enjoin_v respect_n to_o all_o the_o three_o order_n he_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 17._o whence_o you_o may_v easy_o conclude_v his_o thought_n concern_v such_o assembly_n which_o be_v maintain_v without_o one_o of_o they_o that_o be_v of_o episcopacy_n as_o they_o must_v needs_o be_v who_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o act_v independent_o on_o their_o 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