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A65879 The principal controversies between the litteral presbyters of the Kirk of Scotland, and the illuminated members of the Church of Christ, called Quakers· Truly collected, stated and opened, in a particular reply (herein specified) for general information and undeceiving the deceived. By an earnest contender for the most holy faith, which was once delivered to the saints. G. W. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1672 (1672) Wing W1947; ESTC R217169 70,788 112

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unsound_a in_o thou_o and_o thy_o fellow_n to_o oppose_v the_o light_n and_o spirit_n immediate_a teach_n and_o kingdom_n within_o which_o both_o teach_v sufficient_o and_o open_v the_o scripture_n and_o lead_v into_o all_o truth_n and_o to_o scoff_v at_o the_o true_a sence-hereof_a though_o under_o the_o term_n enthusiastic_a or_o enthusiasm_n however_o ironical_o and_o reproachful_o render_v by_o you_o which_o if_o that_o be_v dangerous_a and_o unfound_a then_o be_v divine_o inspire_v unsound_a be_v this_o good_a doctrine_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o quo_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d deus_fw-la divine_a inspire_v enthusiasmus_fw-la a_o inspiration_n it_o be_v the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o almighty_a that_o give_v understanding_n be_v this_o dangerous_a no_o unless_o to_o the_o priest_n to_o discover_v their_o ignorance_n and_o be_v not_o the_o light_n spirit_n kingdom_n within_o communicate_v before_o the_o scripture_n be_v true_o understand_v and_o open_v what_o darkness_n and_o error_n have_v thou_o here_o employ_v and_o signify_v and_o do_v not_o the_o light_n and_o spirit_n bring_v to_o the_o right_a use_n and_o end_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v give_v by_o inspiration_n priest_n there_o be_v no_o man_n free_a from_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n etc._n etc._n christ_n do_v not_o total_o subdue_v it_o in_o this_o life_n for_o that_o place_n 1_o joh._n 3_o of_o christ_n be_v manifest_a to_o destroy_v the_o work_n of_o the_o devil_n if_o you_o take_v it_o so_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v that_o satan_n shall_v not_o tempt_v a_o child_n of_o god_n a●sw_n this_o plain_o enough_o show_v thy_o confusion_n and_o ignorance_n of_o christ_n manifestation_n and_o work_n and_o of_o his_o virtue_n and_o blood_n which_o destroy_v the_o devil_n work_n cleanse_v from_o all_o sin_n thorough_o purge_v they_o that_o believe_v and_o follow_v he_o second_o thy_o inference_n be_v gross_a and_o absurd_a to_o charge_v all_o with_o 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work_n but_o the_o word_n of_o plain_a scripture_n and_o say_v they_o do_v not_o prove_v any_o thing_n when_o as_o they_o viz._n 1_o joh._n 3.6_o 9_o chap._n 5.18_o prove_v that_o whoever_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n sin_v not_o he_o that_o abids_v in_o christ_n sin_v not_o the_o evil_a one_o touch_v he_o not_o do_v this_o prove_v nothing_o do_v not_o this_o equal_o reflect_v upon_o christ_n apostle_n as_o well_o as_o we_o and_o implicit_o say_v they_o shall_v have_v be_v silent_a and_o not_o so_o have_v plead_v christ_n manifestation_n and_o the_o state_n of_o he_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n against_o sin_n antichrist_n and_o deciever_n whereas_o they_o john_n write_v to_o be_v plain_o caution_v not_o to_o be_v decieve_v for_o he_o that_o do_v righteousness_n be_v righteous_a even_o as_o he_o be_v righteous_a priest_n it_o be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n pick_v out_o which_o explain_v the_o sense_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o silly_a and_o gross_a cavil_v 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etc._n answ._n first_o not_o by_o our_o use_n of_o the_o scripture_n both_o from_o ma●_n right_a mind_n and_o for_o a_o good_a end_n namely_o against_o sin_n second_o and_o if_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n after_o he_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n sin_v not_o thou_o have_v prove_v that_o he_o do_v sin_n in_o that_o he_o be_v tempt_v thou_o have_v say_v something_o to_o thy_o business_n of_o accuse_v all_o god_n child_n with_o sin_n term_v of_o life_n but_o herein_o the_o scripture_n own_o thou_o not_o priest_n that_o 1_o joh._n 3.6_o 9_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o a_o limit_v sense_n namely_o that_o they_o do_v not_o continue_v in_o sin_n wilful_o and_o with_o delight_n without_o repentance_n answ._n that_o be_v not_o john_n sense_n but_o thou_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v his_o be_v not_o true_a for_o do_v they_o continue_v in_o sin_n and_o yet_o sin_n not_o this_o be_v a_o contradiction_n or_o do_v t●ey_n continue_v in_o it_o and_o still_o repent_v of_o it_o where_o be_v then_o the_o fruit_n and_o effect_n of_o true_a repentance_n or_o be_v there_o not_o a_o time_n of_o confess_v repent_v and_o time_n of_o forsake_v sin_n and_o cast_v off_o every_o weight_n and_o burden_n and_o of_o be_v cleanse_v from_o all_o unrighteousness_n priest_n they_o do_v not_o commit_v sin_n with_o full_a consent_n without_o control_a of_o the_o motion_n the_o evil_a one_o touch_v they_o not_o to_o entangle_v they_o in_o such_o a_o way_n of_o sin_v etc._n etc._n answ._n as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v they_o do_v commit_v sin_n and_o the_o evil_a one_o do_v touch_v they_o but_o th●y_a sin_n not_o with_o full_a consent_n which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o to_o say_v john_n do_v not_o say_v true_a when_o he_o say_v whoever_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n sin_v not_o the_o wicked_a one_o touch_v he_o not_o etc._n etc._n he_o commit_v not_o sin_n but_o we_o have_v ground_n to_o believe_v he_o before_o satan_n messenger_n who_o thus_o have_v contend_v and_o dispute_v for_o his_o work_n priest_n he_o be_v a_o advocate_n for_o our_o sin_n be_v mean_v of_o the_o sin_n present_a and_o to_o come_v answ._n not_o that_o sin_n shall_v always_o remain_v in_o believer_n but_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v and_o deliver_v out_o of_o it_o and_o become_v god_n righteousness_n in_o he_o priest_n his_o say_n if_o we_o sin_n imply_v as_o much_o as_o when_o we_o sin_n answ._n be_v this_o thy_o learning_n thou_o have_v boast_v of_o thus_o to_o pervert_v scripture_n and_o the_o very_a plain_a sense_n of_o word_n as_o to_o make_v if_o we_o sin_n as_o positive_a or_o absolute_a as_o when_o we_o sin_n so_o if_o in_o other_o case_n may_v as_o well_o be_v take_v for_o when_o as_o if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v not_o sin_v we_o make_v he_o a_o liar_n be_v as_o much_o as_o when_o we_o say_v we_o have_v not_o sin_v etc._n etc._n what_o a_o absurdity_n will_v this_o imply_v against_o the_o apostle_n according_a to_o thy_o sense_n of_o he_o who_o but_o one_o impudent_a will_v not_o be_v ashamed_a thus_o gross_o to_o abuse_v the_o scripture_n which_o else_o where_o thou_o seem_v to_o lay_v such_o great_a stress_n upon_o priest_n we_o know_v in_o part_n be_v a_o imperfect_a degree_n of_o knowledge_n and_o so_o sinful_a answ._n as_o this_o intend_v the_o apostle_n it_o be_v a_o false_a and_o erroneous_a conclusion_n it_o be_v ne●ther_o true_a morral_o nor_o spiritual_o degree_n vary_v not_o the_o property_n of_o the_o thing_n their_o knowledge_n they_o have_v by_o degree_n be_v god_n gift_n to_o they_o and_o be_v spiritual_a from_o above_o a_o effect_n of_o life_n and_o truth_n which_o to_o say_v be_v sinful_a so_o accuse_v the_o cause_n of_o it_o which_o be_v blasphemous_a and_o if_o the_o apostle_n knowledge_n be_v sinful_a because_o in_o part_n
of_o envy_n who_o be_v not_o sanctify_v for_o such_o a_o work_n pr._n your_o reason_n that_o without_o christ_n we_o can_v do_v nothing_o be_v to_o be_v mean_v in_o a_o supernatural_a way_n answ._n be_v not_o that_o in_o a_o supernatural_a way_n which_o be_v without_o error_n and_o jangle_n and_o good_a and_o acceptable_a to_o god_n pr._n if_o they_o believe_v they_o to_o b●_n true_a do_v they_o not_o know_v they_o answ._n no_o all_o that_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v true_a do_v not_o know_v they_o for_o thou_o have_v grant_v a_o historical_a faith_n of_o scripture_n pr._n he_o that_o have_v hear_v and_o learned_a of_o the_o father_n come_v to_o he_o joh._n 6.44_o answ._n but_o all_o that_o have_v read_v and_o hear_v scripture_n have_v not_o hear_v nor_o learn_v of_o the_o father_n nor_o come_v to_o christ._n pr._n none_o can_v know_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o scripture_n without_o the_o sanctify_a knowledge_n of_o christ._n answ._n this_o be_v according_a to_o what_o i_o say_v and_o 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of_o his_o fall_n from_o pr._n they_o be_v all_o ignorant_a of_o the_o resurrection_n and_o mistake_v the_o nature_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v of_o this_o world_n luk._n 24.21_o act._n 1.6_o the_o galatian_n who_o have_v receive_v the_o spirit_n yet_o be_v they_o lead_v into_o error_n answ._n if_o they_o that_o have_v receive_v the_o spirit_n may_v err_v in_o these_o matter_n much_o more_o they_o that_o have_v no_o sanctify_a knowledge_n which_o contradict_v thy_o former_a of_o their_o preach_n of_o truth_n without_o error_n pr._n he_o do_v not_o tell_v they_o you_o err_v not_o have_v the_o spirit_n but_o not_o know_v the_o scripture_n answ._n the_o scripture_n they_o can_v not_o true_o know_v without_o some_o sanctify_a knowledge_n of_o christ_n as_o before_o confess_v or_o of_o the_o power_n of_o god_n to_o salvation_n so_o their_o ignorance_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o a_o supernatural_a sense_n be_v from_o their_o ignorance_n of_o the_o power_n of_o god_n which_o unvail_v the_o heart_n to_o read_v and_o understand_v they_o pr._n for_o what_o you_o say_v we_o plead_v for_o sin_n it_o do_v more_o due_o fall_v on_o the_o doctrine_n that_o say_v believer_n may_v total_o fall_v as_o you_o say_v peter_n by_o his_o denial_n do_v and_o david_n likewise_o by_o etc._n etc._n answ._n nay_o to_o say_v there_o be_v believer_n that_o may_v fall_v from_o grace_n who_o be_v not_o yet_o come_v to_o a_o establish_a and_o grow_v state_n in_o the_o truth_n and_o power_n of_o god_n be_v no_o plead_n for_o sin_n as_o your_o doctrine_n contend_v and_o dispute_v for_o sin_n in_o all_o term_v of_o life_n especial_o while_o we_o exhort_v all_o to_o watch_v and_o look_v diligent_o to_o grace_n receive_v and_o withal_o warn_v they_o etc._n etc._n that_o such_o a_o fall_v away_o may_v be_v prevent_v for_o it_o be_v no_o plead_n for_o sin_n in_o the_o apostle_n to_o warn_v the_o church_n by_o the_o example_n of_o some_o that_o fall_v or_o of_o such_o as_o make_v shipwreck_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n or_o of_o such_o as_o draw_v back_o to_o perdition_n deny_v the_o lord_n that_o buy_v they_o and_o such_o who_o latter_a end_n be_v worse_a than_o their_o beginning_n but_o to_o charge_v we_o with_o say_v that_o peter_n and_o david_n fall_v total_o this_o be_v a_o slander_n and_o forgery_n against_o we_o as_o there_o be_v many_o more_o in_o thy_o bundle_n pr._n if_o our_o peace_n stand_v in_o our_o inherent_a righteousness_n etc._n etc._n in_o our_o good_a work_n etc._n etc._n answ._n inherent_a righteousness_n be_v thy_o own_o word_n obtrude_v upon_o we_o in_o thy_o own_o sense_n as_o imperfect_a and_o so_o in_o that_o sense_n not_o god_n nor_o christ_n for_o in_o god_n righteousness_n receive_v in_o christ_n by_o faith_n our_o peace_n stand_v and_o of_o this_o the_o true_a believer_n be_v partaker_n in_o they_o they_o be_v in_o that_o live_a faith_n the_o righteousness_n whereof_o be_v not_o divide_v from_o it_o pr._n david_n peace_n stand_v not_o in_o the_o freedom_n from_o all_o sin_n but_o in_o that_o god_n do_v pardon_v his_o sin_n and_o do_v not_o impute_v the_o same_o rom._n 4.6_o 7_o 8._o second_o if_o none_o ever_o have_v or_o shall_v have_v peace_n here_o on_o earth_n but_o such_o as_o be_v in_o this_o life_n free_a from_o all_o sin_n than_o you_o alone_o may_v boast_v of_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ._n he_o who_o transgression_n be_v forgive_v the_o man_n unto_o who_o the_o lord_n impute_v not_o iniquity_n in_o his_o spirit_n there_o be_v no_o guile_n psa._n 32.1_o 2._o and_o david_n bid_v mark_v the_o perfect_a man_n and_o behold_v the_o upright_a for_o the_o end_n of_o that_o man_n be_v peace_n and_o bless_v be_v the_o undefiled_a in_o the_o way_n they_o also_o do_v no_o iniquity_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o this_o state_n stand_v david_n peace_n contrary_a to_o what_o thou_o have_v erroneous_o speak_v of_o he_o here_o second_o and_o what_o thou_o have_v say_v of_o our_o be_v free_a from_o all_o 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perfect_a which_o attend_v the_o righteousness_n or_o heavenly_a image_n of_o god_n which_o be_v also_o perfect_a and_o know_v in_o the_o new_a covenant_n whereby_o he_o take_v away_o sin_n and_o establish_v his_o people_n in_o righteousness_n and_o the_o prophet_n can_v testify_v that_o the_o lord_n be_v their_o righteousness_n who_o wrought_v all_o their_o work_n in_o they_o and_o to_o the_o true_a apostle_n christ_n be_v make_v wisdom_n righteousness_n sanctification_n so_o thou_o &_o you_o have_v show_v yourselves_o ignorant_a of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n state_n and_o quallification_n and_o what_o sin_n or_o sin_n they_o all_o have_v which_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o be_v not_o free_v from_o before_o death_n be_v not_o yet_o prove_v by_o any_o of_o you_o who_o be_v find_v in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o old_a accuser_n of_o the_o brethren_n pr._n sin_n be_v remain_v in_o part_n in_o all_o the_o faculty_n of_o god_n child_n etc._n etc._n except_o you_o have_v make_v appear_v that_o paul_n will_n and_o affection_n and_o mind_n be_v perfect_o against_o sin_n some_o stain_n and_o inclination_n to_o sin_n by_o the_o contrary_a corruption_n still_o remain_v in_o some_o degree_n in_o his_o will_n mind_n and_o affection_n etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o be_v a_o sad_a accusation_n against_o all_o god_n child_n again_o and_o what_o be_v this_o but_o a_o plead_n for_o sin_n and_o tend_v to_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o evil_a doer_n what_o all_o the_o faculty_n of_o god_n child_n have_v sin_n and_o corruption_n in_o they_o the_o priest_n be_v wont_a to_o tell_v of_o a_o regenerate_v part_n what_o part_n be_v it_o no_o faculty_n clean_a sad_a news_n thus_o to_o accuse_v paul_n will_n mind_n and_o affection_n as_o have_v
for_o say_v the_o cause_n of_o sum_n condemnation_n be_v their_o reject_v the_o light_n and_o their_o disobedience_n stubborness_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n language_n as_o may_v be_v prove_v be_v large_a for_o the_o fault_n be_v not_o to_o be_v lay_v upon_o god_n but_o upon_o man_n for_o his_o disobedience_n when_o he_o be_v consume_v because_o of_o iniquity_n which_o be_v stubborness_n rebellion_n etc._n etc._n for_o god_n will_v not_o the_o death_n of_o sinner_n but_o rather_o their_o return_n that_o they_o may_v live_v and_o o_o man_n thy_o destruction_n be_v of_o thyself_o but_o thy_o help_n be_v of_o i_o say_v the_o lord_n so_o as_o god_n be_v clear_a when_o he_o judge_n now_o we_o can_v thank_v god_n without_o boast_v that_o he_o have_v show_v such_o love_n mercy_n and_o good_a will_n in_o christ_n unto_o we_o and_o christ_n that_o he_o have_v show_v we_o power_n life_n and_o sufficiency_n in_o himself_o both_o to_o believe_v obey_v and_o give_v diligence_n and_o the_o name_n of_o god_n we_o may_v praise_v for_o all_o his_o mercy_n and_o blessing_n he_o attend_v we_o withal_o in_o the_o way_n whereunto_o he_o have_v call_v we_o and_o indeed_o all_o nation_n be_v call_v to_o praise_v the_o lord_n which_o if_o all_o do_v not_o the_o fault_n be_v not_o god_n nor_o to_o be_v charge_v upon_o he_o or_o his_o free_a grace_n but_o they_o that_o reject_v it_o and_o have_v treasure_v up_o unto_o themselves_o wrath_n against_o the_o day_n of_o wrath_n and_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n they_o that_o count_v god_n a_o hard_a master_n and_o they_o that_o blaspheme_v against_o he_o in_o their_o torment_n and_o anguish_n be_v but_o the_o slothful_a servant_n and_o such_o as_o have_v not_o receive_v the_o truth_n in_o the_o love_n of_o it_o but_o have_v have_v pleasure_n in_o their_o unrighteousness_n and_o thereby_o have_v incur_v displeasure_n from_o the_o righteous_a god_n who_o severity_n follow_v on_o they_o that_o reject_v his_o love_n and_o goodwill_n so_o these_o have_v not_o the_o light_n as_o bright_a shine_a as_o we_o these_o be_v condemn_v from_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o from_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o power_n priest_n how_o come_v it_o that_o there_o be_v none_o among_o all_o these_o person_n throughout_o the_o nation_n where_o the_o scripture_n have_v never_o be_v hear_v that_o have_v write_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o against_o the_o paganish_a worship_n &_o c._n traveller_n shall_v have_v give_v some_o account_n of_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ._n as_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o only_o the_o cause_n of_o life_n faith_n and_o salvation_n according_a to_o thy_o former_a stuff_n but_o of_o all_o write_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n etc._n etc._n then_o what_o be_v the_o cause_n and_o ground_n of_o scripture_n however_o it_o appear_v thou_o be_v no_o great_a traveller_n nor_o haste_n have_v much_o acquaintance_n with_o such_o traveller_n as_o we_o know_v have_v give_v account_n of_o more_o christianity_n among_o divers_a of_o the_o heathen_a that_o have_v not_o scripture_n then_o be_v among_o many_o in_o england_n and_o scotland_n profess_v christianity_n beside_o we_o find_v in_o divers_a of_o the_o heathen_n so_o call_v their_o write_n many_o thing_n both_o moral_a and_o divine_a both_o favour_v of_o christianity_n and_o of_o some_o spiritual_a sense_n several_a of_o they_o have_v of_o the_o nature_n and_o life_n of_o christianity_n which_o in_o itself_o be_v against_o all_o idolatry_n of_o pagan_n and_o other_o though_o not_o in_o your_o borrow_a term_n and_o expression_n of_o religion_n and_o christianity_n and_o further_o why_o shall_v the_o apostle_n make_v use_v of_o some_o of_o the_o heathen_n expression_n and_o gentile_n experience_n for_o proof_n if_o they_o have_v no_o tendence_n to_o christianity_n pr._n but_o the_o best_a of_o those_o nation_n and_o wise_a be_v the_o great_a enemy_n to_o the_o gospel_n answ._n 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