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but_o must_v needs_o denote_v a_o reality_n of_o heresy_n in_o the_o doctrine_n 120._o but_o first_o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o in_o the_o example_n which_o i_o bring_v the_o aduerbe_n as_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v relation_n to_o two_o diverse_a subject_n or_o person_n for_o it_o may_v be_v refer_v to_o one_o and_o the_o same_o subject_a or_o person_n as_o if_o one_o shall_v be_v blame_v for_o not_o love_v his_o brother_n or_o for_o not_o hate_v the_o devil_n he_o may_v very_o well_o answer_v and_o say_v in_o truth_n i_o love_v he_o as_o my_o brother_n or_o i_o hate_v he_o as_o the_o devil_n where_o the_o aduerbe_n as_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o matter_n do_v signify_v a_o reality_n of_o brotherhood_n and_o a_o true_a devil_n and_o not_o only_o a_o similitude_n or_o a_o equality_n by_o the_o way_n of_o comparison_n and_o therefore_o to_o know_v when_o the_o aduerbe_n as_o do_v denote_v a_o reality_n and_o not_o a_o similitude_n we_o must_v regard_v the_o matter_n to_o which_o it_o 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the_o confutation_n of_o his_o first_o and_o best_a answer_n 94._o but_o first_o as_o it_o appear_v also_o by_o the_o premise_n the_o express_a word_n of_o this_o clause_n according_a to_o their_o most_o usual_a and_o proper_a signification_n together_o with_o all_o other_o circumstance_n do_v clear_o prove_v that_o both_o part_n of_o that_o disiunctive_a proposition_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v abjure_v alike_o for_o that_o to_o make_v a_o conditional_a disiunctive_a proposition_n as_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o position_n abjure_v in_o this_o clause_n to_o be_v heretical_a it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o one_o part_n of_o the_o disjunction_n be_v heretical_a and_o that_o therefore_o both_o part_n of_o the_o disjunction_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v abjure_v alike_o as_o by_o the_o form_n of_o my_o adversary_n own_o example_n i_o have_v evident_o convince_v and_o therefore_o his_o premise_n do_v no_o way_n prove_v his_o conclusion_n in_o this_o point_n 94_o 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may_v fail_v the_o event_n of_o war_n be_v uncertain_a but_o the_o former_a by_o the_o adventurous_a boldness_n only_o of_o one_o villain_n may_v be_v effect_v together_o with_o the_o know_a practice_n of_o the_o late_a murder_n of_o the_o most_o christian_a king_n of_o france_n and_o the_o execrable_a conspiracy_n of_o the_o pouder-traytor_n which_o be_v the_o chief_a occasion_n of_o the_o ordain_v of_o this_o oath_n and_o therefore_o his_o majesty_n have_v neither_o more_o reason_n nor_o as_o much_o reason_n to_o condemn_v that_o part_n of_o this_o clause_n which_o concern_v the_o depose_n of_o prince_n be_v excommunicate_v or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n for_o heretical_a take_v heretical_a for_o that_o which_o import_v a_o plain_a manifest_a and_o confess_v heresy_n or_o falsehood_n clear_o repugnant_a to_o holy_a scripture_n as_o either_o he_o himself_o or_o i_o or_o any_o man_n else_o may_v have_v to_o condemn_v that_o part_n for_o heretical_a which_o concern_v the_o murder_n of_o such_o prince_n 95._o but_o to_o reduce_v mr._n fitzherbert_n whole_a discourse_n to_o a_o compendious_a form_n of_o argue_v that_o which_o he_o chief_o labour_v to_o prove_v against_o i_o in_o this_o chapter_n be_v that_o this_o position_n prince_n which_o be_v excommunicate_v or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v depose_v or_o murder_v by_o their_o subject_n or_o any_o other_o whatsoever_o â—s_v by_o the_o oath_n condemn_v for_o heretical_a in_o regard_n as_o well_o of_o the_o deposition_n of_o such_o prince_n as_o of_o the_o murder_n of_o they_o and_o this_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v by_o two_o way_n first_o by_o the_o common_a sense_n and_o understand_v of_o the_o word_n which_o do_v signify_v say_v he_o that_o both_o part_n aâ—e_v abjure_v alike_o to_o which_o purpose_n he_o bring_v four_o example_n of_o proposition_n which_o as_o you_o have_v see_v make_v nothing_o for_o he_o but_o be_v flat_a against_o he_o and_o he_o frame_v a_o oath_n of_o his_o own_o invention_n to_o parallel_v it_o with_o the_o oath_n ordain_v by_o his_o majesty_n which_o nevertheless_o be_v far_o different_a from_o it_o in_o sense_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o 96._o second_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v the_o same_o by_o his_o majesty_n meaning_n or_o intention_n which_o be_v say_v he_o that_o both_o part_n shall_v be_v abjure_v as_o heretical_a and_o this_o also_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v by_o two_o way_n first_o by_o the_o proper_a and_o common_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n by_o which_o his_o majesty_n intention_n be_v principal_o to_o be_v gather_v but_o this_o proof_n be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o former_a and_o therefore_o with_o the_o same_o facility_n it_o be_v deny_v as_o it_o be_v affirm_v for_o that_o the_o proper_a and_o usual_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n do_v not_o import_v that_o both_o part_n of_o the_o disjunction_n be_v of_o necessity_n to_o be_v abjure_v alike_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o conditional_a
deprive_v a_o prince_n be_v to_o take_v away_o by_o lawful_a sentence_n his_o regal_a authority_n and_o in_o this_o branch_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o pope_n but_o to_o depose_v a_o prince_n be_v to_o thrust_v he_o out_o of_o the_o possession_n of_o his_o kingdom_n and_o in_o this_o branch_n be_v refer_v to_o subject_n or_o any_o other_o whatsoever_o 113._o the_o falsehood_n therefore_o of_o the_o aforesaid_a position_n may_v be_v gather_v partly_o from_o holy_a scripture_n 22._o scripture_n mat._n 22._o render_v to_o caesar_n the_o thing_n which_o be_v caesar_n which_o precept_n be_v plain_o understand_v not_o only_o of_o render_v to_o caesar_n that_o which_o be_v caesar_n but_o also_o of_o not_o take_v away_o from_o he_o that_o which_o be_v he_o and_o which_o he_o lawful_o possess_v as_o also_o contrary_a wise_a the_o plain_a meaning_n of_o that_o precept_n of_o the_o decalogue_n thou_o shall_v not_o steal_v 20._o steal_v exod._n 20._o be_v not_o only_o that_o we_o must_v not_o take_v away_o unjust_o that_o thing_n which_o be_v our_o neighbour_n but_o also_o that_o we_o must_v render_v to_o he_o that_o which_o be_v his_o own_o and_o partly_o it_o may_v be_v gather_v from_o the_o most_o true_a principle_n of_o the_o divine_n and_o lawyer_n to_o wit_n that_o no_o man_n be_v to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o his_o lawful_a possession_n until_o the_o right_n of_o the_o adverse_a part_n be_v sufficient_o decide_v 114_o see_v therefore_o that_o this_o question_n concern_v the_o pope_n power_n to_o deprive_v prince_n be_v not_o as_o yet_o sufficient_o decide_v for_o that_o as_o yet_o the_o judge_n have_v not_o determine_v the_o controversy_n as_o trithemius_n 1106._o trithemius_n in_o chron._n monâ—st_n hâ—rsa_fw-la ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 1106._o well_o affirm_v and_o we_o also_o above_o 3_o above_o cap._n 3._o sec_fw-la 3_o have_v show_v so_o long_o as_o it_o be_v in_o question_n among_o catholic_n and_o probable_o dispute_v on_o both_o side_n whether_o the_o pope_n have_v such_o 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fitzherbert_n object_v thus_o thâ—s_v second_o answer_n say_v he_o 25._o he_o cap._n 4._o nu_fw-la 25._o be_v sufficient_o confute_v by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n or_o oath_n which_o as_o i_o have_v signify_v aught_o to_o be_v take_v &_o understand_v in_o thâ—ir_n most_o proper_a &_o clear_a sense_n in_o which_o respect_n the_o adverbe_n as_o be_v join_v to_o impious_a and_o heretical_a must_v needs_o denote_v and_o signify_v not_o a_o similitude_n nor_o yet_o a_o equality_n by_o the_o way_n of_o comparison_n but_o a_o reality_n of_o impiety_n and_o heresy_n in_o that_o doctrine_n for_o so_o no_o doubt_n do_v every_o man_n take_v it_o that_o read_v the_o say_a clause_n 116._o but_o to_o this_o it_o be_v answer_v first_o that_o m._n fitzherbert_n abuse_v his_o reader_n in_o corrupt_v and_o conceal_v those_o rule_n which_o i_o relate_v out_o of_o suarez_n and_o other_o for_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o word_n of_o every_o law_n and_o consequent_o of_o this_o oath_n for_o 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any_o injustice_n or_o like_o absurdity_n in_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o lawmaker_n they_o must_v be_v draw_v to_o a_o sense_n although_o improper_a wherein_o the_o law_n may_v be_v just_a and_o reasonable_a because_o this_o be_v presume_v to_o be_v the_o will_n of_o the_o lawmaker_n as_o it_o have_v be_v declare_v by_o many_o law_n in_o ff_n tit_n de_fw-fr legibus_fw-la for_o in_o a_o doubtful_a word_n of_o the_o law_n say_v the_o law_n that_o sense_n be_v rather_o to_o be_v choose_v which_o be_v void_a of_o all_o default_n especial_o see_v that_o by_o this_o the_o will_v also_o of_o the_o lawmaker_n may_v be_v gather_v for_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v presume_v that_o the_o lawmaker_n do_v intend_v to_o command_v any_o absurd_a or_o inconvenient_a thing_n unless_o the_o contrary_n do_v evident_o appear_v 117_o but_o if_o it_o chance_v say_v suarez_n 11._o suarez_n cap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 11._o that_o aâ—y_a word_n of_o the_o law_n have_v together_o many_o proper_a and_o usual_a signification_n than_o we_o must_v observe_v that_o rule_n which_o in_o all_o ambiguous_a and_o equivocal_a speech_n be_v wont_v prudent_o to_o be_v observe_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o law_n with_o other_o circumstance_n be_v diligent_o consider_v for_o by_o they_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n will_v be_v easy_o determine_v for_o the_o word_n must_v especial_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o matter_n according_a to_o that_o rule_n of_o the_o law_n juris_fw-la law_n leg._n quoties_fw-la ff_n de_fw-fr regulis_fw-la juris_fw-la whensoever_o the_o same_o speech_n have_v two_o sense_n let_v that_o especial_o be_v take_v which_o be_v more_o agreeable_a to_o the_o matter_n and_o therefore_o if_o the_o word_n be_v ambiguous_a or_o doubtful_a they_o must_v be_v draw_v to_o that_o sense_n as_o i_o say_v before_o which_o contain_v no_o injustice_n or_o absurdity_n and_o a_o benign_a and_o favourable_a interpretation_n if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o let_v be_v always_o to_o be_v prefer_v according_a to_o that_o approve_a rule_n of_o the_o law_n legibus_fw-la law_n leg._n benignius_fw-la ff_n de_fw-fr legibus_fw-la law_n be_v to_o be_v interpret_v in_o the_o more_o favourable_a sense_n that_o thereby_o their_o will_n and_o meaning_n may_v be_v conserve_v and_o doubtful_a speech_n as_o emanuel_n sa._n affirm_v 17._o affirm_v verbo_fw-la interpretatio_fw-la nu_fw-la 17._o be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o the_o better_a sense_n and_o which_o be_v more_o profitable_a to_o the_o speaker_n this_o and_o much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n do_v i_o there_o at_o large_a relate_v which_o my_o adversary_n here_o conceal_v and_o which_o if_o he_o have_v set_v down_o will_v plain_o have_v satisfy_v his_o chief_a exception_n by_o which_o contrary_a to_o the_o aforesaid_a rule_n he_o labour_v to_o draw_v the_o word_n of_o this_o oath_n which_o he_o may_v favourable_o and_o commodious_o expound_v to_o contain_v in_o his_o opinion_n a_o unlawful_a and_o inconvenient_a sense_n 118._o and_o from_o this_o which_o i_o have_v now_o relate_v it_o be_v answer_v second_o that_o the_o aduerbe_n as_o be_v a_o aduerbe_n of_o similitude_n do_v most_o proper_o most_o common_o and_o most_o usual_o denote_v a_o similitude_n or_o some_o equality_n by_o way_n of_o comparison_n and_o not_o a_o identity_n or_o reality_n and_o it_o sometime_o it_o do_v signify_v a_o identity_n or_o reality_n as_o many_o time_n it_o do_v although_o seldom_o in_o comparison_n of_o the_o other_o this_o be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o matter_n &_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o word_n or_o by_o force_n of_o the_o aduerbe_n of_o similitude_n as_o wherefore_o to_o know_v when_o the_o aduerbe_n as_o do_v signify_v a_o similitude_n and_o when_o a_o reality_n or_o identity_n we_o must_v regard_v the_o matter_n to_o which_o it_o be_v apply_v see_v therefore_o that_o this_o doctriâ—e_n or_o position_n that_o prince_n which_o be_v
this_o be_v his_o principal_a meaning_n and_o intention_n that_o we_o shall_v deal_v plain_o and_o sincere_o with_o he_o without_o any_o fraud_n guile_n mental_a evasion_n or_o secret_a reservation_n whatsoever_o 129_o and_o if_o it_o shall_v so_o fall_v out_o that_o we_o can_v be_v assure_v of_o his_o majesty_n meaning_n and_o intention_n when_o any_o difficulty_n concern_v the_o sense_n of_o any_o word_n or_o sentence_n contain_v in_o the_o oath_n shall_v arise_v than_o we_o must_v recurre_v to_o those_o general_a rule_n which_o divine_n &_o lawyer_n assign_v for_o the_o interpret_n of_o the_o word_n of_o every_o law_n for_o this_o we_o may_v with_o just_a reason_n presume_v to_o be_v the_o general_a intention_n of_o his_o majesty_n as_o also_o of_o every_o lawmaker_n and_o if_o perchance_o there_o be_v any_o catholic_a so_o scrupulous_a that_o by_o apply_v the_o aforesaid_a general_a rule_n to_o any_o ambiguous_a and_o doubtful_a word_n or_o sentence_n in_o the_o oath_n he_o can_v yet_o quiet_v his_o conscience_n yet_o he_o may_v avoid_v all_o danger_n of_o equivocate_a by_o public_o declare_v in_o what_o sense_n he_o take_v that_o word_n or_o sentence_n which_o have_v diverse_a proper_a and_o usual_a signification_n as_o by_o declare_v in_o what_o sense_n he_o take_v the_o aduerbe_n as_o both_o in_o the_o word_n impious_a and_o also_o in_o the_o word_n heretical_a and_o likewise_o in_o what_o sense_n he_o take_v the_o word_n heretical_a and_o so_o of_o other_o and_o this_o declaration_n will_v both_o avoid_v all_o danger_n of_o equivocate_a and_o also_o without_o doubt_n satisfy_v the_o magistrate_n so_o that_o his_o declaration_n be_v not_o know_v to_o be_v against_o his_o majesty_n meaning_n and_o intention_n 130_o and_o true_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o whereas_o the_o oath_n be_v by_o his_o majesty_n and_o the_o parliament_n propound_v and_o express_v in_o such_o manner_n of_o word_n that_o according_a to_o the_o approve_a rule_n assign_v by_o catholic_a 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