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A93655 The opening of Master Prynnes new book, called A vindication: or, light breaking out from a cloud of differences, or late controversies. Wherein are inferences upon the Vindication, and antiqueres to the queres; and by that, the way a little cleared to a further discovery of truth in a church-order, by a conference or discourse. / By John Saltmarsh, preacher at Brasteed in Kent. Published according to order. Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647. 1645 (1645) Wing S493; Thomason E305_22; ESTC R200328 25,183 50

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