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A09112 The vvarn-vvord to Sir Francis Hastinges wast-word conteyning the issue of three former treateses, the Watch-word, the Ward-word and the Wast-word (intituled by Sir Francis, an Apologie or defence of his Watch-word) togeather with certaine admonitions & warnings to thesaid [sic] knight and his followers. Wherunto is adioyned a breif reiection of an insolent, and vaunting minister masked with the letters O.E. who hath taken vpon him to wryte of thesame [sic] argument in supply of the knight. There go also foure seueral tables, one of the chapters, another of the controuersies, the third of the cheif shiftes, and deceits, the fourth of the parricular [sic] matters conteyned in the whole book. By N.D. author of the Ward-word. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19418; ESTC S114221 315,922 580

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promiser_n he_o now_o confident_o exact_v the_o promise_n which_o promise_n though_o it_o be_v of_o mercy_n yet_o now_o it_o be_v to_o be_v pay_v of_o justice_n etc._n etc._n for_o it_o be_v just_a that_o god_n shall_v pay_v whatsoever_o he_o owe_v and_o he_o owe_v whatsoever_o he_o have_v promise_v etc._n etc._n and_o of_o this_o justice_n it_o please_v god_n to_o make_v paul_n a_o partner_n 1069._o justitiae_fw-la paulum_fw-la deus_fw-la voluit_fw-la habere_fw-la consortem_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o coronae_fw-la faceret_fw-la promeritorem_fw-la bern._n pag._n 1069._o to_o the_o end_n he_o may_v make_v he_o also_o a_o deserver_n of_o his_o crown_n and_o in_o this_o he_o make_v he_o both_o partner_n of_o his_o justice_n and_o deserver_n of_o his_o crown_n when_o he_o vouchsafe_v to_o make_v he_o his_o helper_n or_o coadiutor_n in_o do_v good_a work_n whereunto_o his_o crown_n be_v promise_v &_o further_o he_o make_v he_o his_o coadiutor_n when_o he_o make_v he_o to_o consent_v to_o his_o 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receyve_v but_o pay_v that_o which_o thou_o have_v promise_v thus_o do_v write_v these_o holy_a father_n show_v how_o god_n become_v debiter_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o good_a work_n not_o by_o their_o own_o nature_n but_o by_o his_o own_o voluntary_a free_a promise_n and_o mercy_n yet_o deny_v they_o not_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o merit_n nor_o blaspheme_v it_o as_o our_o fond_a k._n do_v say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o proud_a presumption_n before_o god_n to_o put_v any_o opinion_n of_o merit_n to_o our_o work_n 19_o pag._n 19_o but_o you_o have_v hear_v out_o of_o the_o father_n how_o they_o do_v not_o only_o put_v opinion_n of_o merit_n in_o good_a work_n but_o do_v plain_o affirm_v and_o teach_v it_o and_o that_o it_o be_v due_a debt_n suppose_v god_n promise_v make_v to_o reward_v they_o whereof_o also_o it_o follow_v that_o albeit_o the_o say_n of_o s._n bernard_n be_v most_o true_a in_o the_o sense_n allege_v that_o our_o merit_n be_v the_o way_n to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o 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about_o this_o point_n which_o heretyk_n will_v never_o suffer_v their_o reader_n sincere_o to_o understand_v we_o shall_v come_v to_o examine_v what_o s_n r._n f._n repli_v to_o the_o discovery_n of_o all_o those_o cavil_n and_o falsehood_n wherein_o the_o warder_n take_v he_o trip_v they_o be_v four_o if_o you_o remember_v or_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o look_v back_o upon_o they_o to_o all_o which_o he_o answer_v no_o one_o word_n in_o particular_a but_o only_o this_o in_o general_a what_o say_v i_o more_o in_o my_o accusation_n about_o 〈…〉_o know_v to_o be_v true_a 〈…〉_o a_o general_a answer_n it_o 〈…〉_o he_o mean_v i_o know_v not_o 〈…〉_o he_o have_v a_o world_n of_o 〈…〉_o he_o may_v have_v allege_v 〈…〉_o we_o in_o all_o this_o world_n 〈…〉_o one_o of_o these_o four_o 〈…〉_o which_o in_o this_o place_n be_v 〈…〉_o his_o charge_n by_o the_o warder_n and_o so_o have_v save_v his_o honour_n in_o this_o behalf_n but_o have_v produce_v none_o after_o so_o much_o brag_v in_o his_o watchword_n and_o so_o much_o battery_n in_o the_o wardword_n now_o to_o come_v and_o cry_v again_o that_o he_o have_v a_o world_n with_o he_o when_o the_o time_n have_v be_v to_o have_v bring_v some_o forth_o be_v a_o pitiful_a plight_n for_o so_o honourable_a a_o knight_n to_o see_v himself_o in_o but_o what_o do_v he_o answer_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o particular_a think_v you_o to_o all_o these_o charge_n of_o untruth_n lay_v unto_o he_o but_o only_o that_o the_o whole_a world_n know_v his_o assertion_n to_o be_v true_a yes_o 69._o ibid._n pag._n 69._o for_o thus_o it_o follow_v in_o the_o same_o place_n the_o cath._n doctrine_n be_v as_o our_o champion_n say_v that_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n indulgence_n avayle_v not_o to_o remove_v mortal_a sin_n etc._n etc._n neither_o do_v the_o pardon_n remove_v the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n whatsoever_o your_o doctrine_n be_v in_o this_o point_n your_o practice_n be_v quite_o contrary_a etc._n etc._n mark_v here_o gentle_a 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though_o much_o be_v practise_v as_o to_o our_o grief_n we_o see_v from_o this_o he_o pass_v to_o allege_v certain_a old_a verse_n cite_v by_o kennitius_n as_o true_a a_o writer_n 〈…〉_o as_o he_o say_v in_o a_o stone_n in_o a_o 〈…〉_o the_o bituriges_n in_o aquitany_n 〈…〉_o nothing_o at_o all_o 〈…〉_o only_o exhort_v man_n to_o 〈…〉_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o by_o god_n and_o 〈…〉_o of_o scripture_n themselves_o 〈…〉_o our_o knight_n lack_v other_o 〈…〉_o they_o in_o against_o 〈◊〉_d some_o of_o they_o i_o shall_v allege_v hear_v for_o example_n sake_n 69._o 〈◊〉_d pag._n 69._o hic_fw-la des_fw-fr devotè_fw-fr coelestibus_fw-la associate_n mentes_n aegrotae_fw-la per_fw-la munera_fw-la sunt_fw-la tibi_fw-la lotae_fw-la ergo_fw-la veni_fw-la tote_fw-la gentes_fw-la à_fw-la sede_fw-la remotae_fw-la qui_fw-la datis_fw-la estote_fw-la certi_fw-la de_fw-la divite_fw-la dote_v hic_fw-la si_fw-la largè_fw-fr des_fw-fr in_o caelum_fw-la sit_fw-la tua_fw-la sedes_fw-la qui_fw-la serit_fw-la hic_fw-la parcè_fw-la parcè_fw-la comprendit_fw-la in_o arce_fw-la sir_n francis_n his_o translation_n give_v free_o here_o in_o heaven_n a_o place_n prepare_v your_o sickly_a soul_n by_o gift_n clean_o purge_v be_v come_v people_n then_o which_o dwell_v far_o from_o this_o place_n you_o that_o do_v give_v rest_v sure_a of_o much_o grace_n if_o thou_o give_v free_o here_o heaven_n be_v thy_o hire_n he_o that_o give_v little_a shall_v little_o there_o acquire_v these_o verse_n allege_v s_n r._n francis_n to_o make_v sport_n at_o indulgence_n but_o if_o you_o take_v away_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o latyn_a and_o poensy_n incident_a to_o that_o age_n they_o contain_v no_o absurdity_n at_o all_o but_o do_v set_v forth_o the_o force_n and_o virtue_n of_o alm_n in_o the_o very_a word_n almost_o that_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n for_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o day_n &_o dabitur_fw-la vobis_fw-la etc._n etc._n 〈…〉_o give_v unto_o you_o in_o 〈…〉_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n 〈…〉_o omne_fw-la 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