Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
sense_n prove_v scripture_n true_a 7,056 5 5.8469 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A39265 The Protestant resolved, or, A discourse shewing the unreasonableness of his turning Roman Catholick for salvation Ellis, Clement, 1630-1700.; Sherlock, William, 1641?-1707. 1688 (1688) Wing E569; ESTC R6293 60,365 84

There are 4 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

for_o her_o own_o authority_n it_o can_v i_o say_v be_v any_o thing_n else_o because_o the_o thing_n they_o be_v prove_v be_v that_o she_o alone_o be_v the_o one_o holy_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n and_o be_v it_o any_o thing_n else_o they_o will_v never_o discover_v it_o to_o we_o because_o they_o will_v thereby_o give_v we_o a_o unanswerable_a argument_n against_o what_o they_o will_v prove_v she_o to_o be_v for_o if_o they_o will_v show_v we_o any_o other_o church_n or_o church_n by_o the_o testimony_n whereof_o her_o authority_n may_v be_v prove_v we_o be_v thereby_o enable_v to_o prove_v she_o be_v not_o the_o only_a true_a church_n out_o of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n what_o then_o can_v this_o testimony_n be_v be_v it_o that_o of_o the_o first_o and_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n before_o popery_n be_v bring_v forth_o not_o so_o to_o be_v sure_a for_o popery_n be_v they_o say_v from_o the_o beginning_n and_o glori_v of_o her_o antiquity_n above_o all_o thing_n be_v it_o the_o testimony_n of_o all_o other_o in_o the_o world_n that_o profess_v christianity_n it_o can_v be_v for_o all_o these_o if_o not_o of_o her_o communion_n be_v heretic_n and_o in_o a_o state_n of_o damnation_n for_o deny_v her_o authority_n and_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o they_o to_o witness_v that_o to_o be_v which_o they_o deny_v to_o be_v yet_o be_v their_o testimony_n invalid_a because_o they_o confess_v themselves_o fallible_a and_o this_o point_n of_o faith_n can_v stand_v upon_o a_o fallible_a testimony_n by_o this_o it_o be_v very_o clear_a to_o i_o that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o christ_n if_o it_o be_v produce_v for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n own_o word_n and_o i_o never_o doubt_v but_o she_o have_v a_o good_a word_n for_o herself_o any_o more_o than_o i_o doubt_v lest_o it_o shall_v be_v think_v a_o good_a proof_n of_o her_o authority_n i_o have_v hear_v again_o much_o talk_v of_o universal_a tradition_n among_o romam_fw-la catholic_n but_o if_o they_o allege_v this_o for_o their_o church_n authority_n they_o give_v we_o only_o the_o same_o thing_n again_o in_o other_o word_n universal_a tradition_n can_v be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o that_o must_v be_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o so_o we_o be_v not_o advance_v one_o step_n far_o than_o we_o be_v before_o the_o credit_n we_o be_v to_o give_v unto_o universal_a tradition_n depend_v on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o we_o have_v not_o yet_o sound_a but_o be_v inquire_v after_o if_o father_n and_o council_n be_v bring_v in_o to_o witness_v this_o authority_n all_o the_o noise_n they_o make_v will_v prove_v but_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n cry_v herself_o up_o for_o the_o great_a diana_n of_o the_o world_n and_o thunder_a anathema_n to_o all_o that_o will_v not_o fall_v down_o and_o worship_v she_o will_v she_o abide_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o either_o father_n or_o council_n if_o they_o speak_v not_o what_o she_o have_v teach_v they_o or_o against_o what_o she_o hold_v or_o shall_v they_o be_v allow_v to_o over_o rule_v the_o oral_n and_o practical_a tradition_n of_o the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v council_n of_o any_o credit_n more_o than_o the_o pope_n confirmation_n give_v they_o and_o be_v single_a father_n of_o more_o credit_n than_o they_o if_o not_o we_o have_v yet_o no_o more_o but_o her_o own_o word_n for_o her_o own_o authority_n if_o they_o bring_v we_o scripture_n to_o prove_v this_o authority_n i_o must_v say_v that_o as_o we_o reverence_v father_n and_o council_n so_o we_o adore_v with_o tertullian_n the_o fullness_n of_o the_o scripture_n neither_o can_v we_o desire_v any_o better_a proof_n than_o its_o testimony_n yet_o when_o i_o consider_v how_o these_o man_n use_v the_o scripture_n i_o be_o at_o a_o stand_n to_o think_v how_o they_o can_v in_o good_a earnest_n produce_v it_o as_o a_o witness_n in_o this_o matter_n for_o after_o they_o have_v say_v almost_o all_o the_o ill_a they_o can_v of_o it_o call_z it_o imperfect_a insufficient_a obscure_a unsense_v they_o seem_v to_o ridicule_n both_o it_o and_o we_o when_o they_o bring_v it_o forth_o thus_o disable_v for_o a_o witness_n do_v not_o they_o tell_v we_o again_o and_o again_o that_o both_o the_o canon_n and_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n depend_v as_o to_o we_o on_o the_o authority_n and_o interpretation_n of_o their_o church_n and_o can_v its_o testimony_n then_o possible_o amount_v to_o any_o more_o than_o that_o church_n bare_a word_n do_v not_o they_o deny_v we_o a_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n whereby_o we_o shall_v discern_v for_o ourselves_o whether_o it_o speak_v fór_n or_o against_o their_o church_n authority_n and_o will_v they_o yet_o produce_v it_o to_o convince_v we_o of_o the_o authority_n by_o which_o alone_o we_o be_v both_o to_o receive_v and_o understand_v it_o it_o can_v be_v produce_v to_o convince_v we_o in_o our_o judgement_n for_o we_o be_v not_o allow_v any_o use_n of_o our_o judgement_n in_o the_o case_n it_o must_v be_v only_o to_o convince_v themselves_o that_o we_o be_v heretic_n and_o i_o dare_v say_v that_o may_v be_v do_v without_o the_o scripture_n as_o well_o as_o with_o it_o whilst_o their_o church_n must_v give_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o but_o because_o they_o know_v we_o magnify_v it_o they_o will_v produce_v it_o though_o i_o can_v see_v to_o what_o other_o end_n than_o to_o persuade_v we_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o trust_v too_o much_o to_o it_o or_o think_v it_o worth_a any_o thing_n after_o it_o have_v show_v we_o the_o true_a church_n it_o must_v be_v believe_v no_o long_o than_o it_o be_v authorize_v to_o speak_v by_o that_o authority_n which_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o it_o so_o that_o by_o show_v we_o that_o authority_n it_o lose_v all_o its_o own_o authority_n for_o ever_o for_o this_o say_v stapleton_n that_o god_n have_v command_v we_o to_o believe_v 15._o the_o church_n we_o do_v not_o hang_v our_o faith_n on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n as_o upon_o the_o proper_a and_o sole_a cause_n of_o this_o belief_n but_o partly_o on_o manifest_a scripture_n by_o which_o we_o be_v remit_v to_o the_o teach_n of_o the_o church_n partly_o on_o the_o creed_n etc._n etc._n this_o then_o be_v the_o end_n of_o produce_v the_o scripture_n that_o we_o may_v be_v convince_v by_o it_o that_o we_o be_v no_o long_o to_o learn_v of_o it_o after_o we_o be_v once_o bring_v by_o it_o to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o church_n authority_n but_o thenceforward_o be_v to_o depend_v whole_o upon_o the_o teach_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o which_o it_o remit_v we_o all_o the_o use_n then_o that_o we_o have_v of_o the_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v guide_v by_o it_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n though_o it_o can_v do_v so_o much_o for_o we_o neither_o but_o as_o that_o church_n guide_v it_o and_o have_v thank_v it_o for_o its_o kindness_n we_o be_v then_o to_o bid_v it_o good_a night_n now_o see_v manifest_a scripture_n be_v promise_v we_o to_o guide_v we_o to_o the_o roman_a church_n i_o think_v it_o reasonable_a to_o expect_v that_o they_o produce_v such_o scripture_n as_o be_v more_o manifest_a to_o we_o than_o their_o church_n authority_n which_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o they_o see_v it_o be_v by_o their_o evidence_n i_o be_o to_o be_v convince_v of_o that_o which_o as_o yet_o be_v unevident_a to_o i_o neither_o ought_v the_o sense_n of_o these_o manifest_a scripture_n depend_v upon_o the_o interpretation_n or_o authority_n of_o that_o church_n the_o authority_n whereof_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v as_o a_o thing_n to_o i_o not_o yet_o evident_a for_o so_o i_o shall_v be_v still_o but_o where_o i_o be_v before_o and_o instead_o of_o manifest_a scripture_n be_v shuffle_v off_o with_o the_o church_n bare_a word_n i_o mean_v with_o such_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n as_o i_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o receive_v but_o by_o that_o authority_n whereof_o i_o be_o yet_o at_o least_o in_o doubt_n now_o that_o there_o be_v indeed_o no_o such_o manifest_a scripture_n i_o be_o reasonable_o well_o assure_v beforehand_o i_o have_v read_v the_o scripture_n over_o and_o over_o and_o find_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n therein_o make_v of_o this_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o pope_n of_o rome_n or_o his_o supremacy_n be_v never_o once_o name_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o bible_n to_o the_o end_n nor_o can_v i_o meet_v with_o one_o syllable_n touch_v either_o the_o infallibility_n or_o jurisdiction_n of_o he_o or_o his_o council_n or_o of_o any_o kind_n of_o subjection_n due_a to_o
believe_v but_o this_o one_o point_n for_o when_o once_o this_o great_a gobbet_n be_v swallow_v down_o the_o passage_n will_v be_v so_o well_o open_v that_o all_o other_o point_n of_o faith_n either_o go_v down_o with_o it_o or_o will_v slip_v after_o it_o without_o the_o least_o strain_v or_o grutch_v the_o authority_n of_o god_n himself_o speak_v in_o scripture_n will_v be_v of_o no_o far_a consideration_n to_o we_o for_o that_o we_o must_v suppose_v to_o be_v include_v in_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n and_o whatsoever_o we_o shall_v thenceforward_a perceive_v to_o be_v the_o will_n of_o our_o mother_n we_o must_v without_o all_o scruple_n conclude_v it_o to_o be_v also_o the_o will_n of_o our_o father_n the_o representer_n have_v late_o tell_v we_o that_o though_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o word_n of_o our_o heavenly_a father_n may_v be_v the_o law_n yet_o the_o mother_n the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o judg._n have_v learn_v from_o her_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n we_o be_v oblige_v to_o submit_v to_o this_o and_o never_o presume_v on_o our_o own_o private_a sentiment_n however_o seem_o ground_v on_o reason_n and_o scripture_n to_o believe_v or_o preach_v any_o new_a doctrine_n opposite_a to_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o church_n and_o there_o be_v reason_n for_o this_o if_o it_o be_v true_a which_o he_o elsewhere_o tell_v we_o that_o a_o man_n may_v very_o 35._o easy_o frame_v as_o many_o creed_n as_o he_o please_v and_o make_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n speak_v what_o shall_v be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o his_o humour_n and_o suit_n best_o with_o his_o interest_n and_o find_v plain_a proof_n for_o all_o he_o mean_v 38._o in_o scripture_n the_o truth_n whereof_o as_o of_o all_o other_o point_n of_o doctrine_n stand_v as_o he_o say_v upon_o the_o same_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n tradition_n which_o if_o it_o fail_v in_o one_o leave_v no_o security_n in_o any_o this_o be_v indeed_o to_o advance_v the_o church_n to_o the_o very_a top-branch_n of_o all_o authority_n and_o to_o make_v the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o very_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n and_o as_o leaden_a a_o rule_n as_o any_o of_o that_o church_n ever_o think_v it_o see_v a_o man_n may_v form_v and_o work_v it_o into_o creed_n of_o all_o fashion_n and_o find_v plain_a proof_n in_o it_o for_o any_o odd_a humour_n or_o carnal_a and_o worldly_a interest_n this_o then_o as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v learn_v by_o he_o be_v the_o only_a way_n for_o i_o to_o be_v a_o thorough_a papist_n and_o a_o good_a catholic_n i_o must_v lay_v aside_o my_o reason_n and_o the_o scripture_n and_o heed_n no_o more_o what_o either_o of_o these_o tell_v i_o only_o i_o must_v have_v my_o ear_n open_a to_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v whole_o at_o her_o teach_n and_o command_n and_o i_o shall_v be_v safe_a enough_o upon_o the_o most_o serious_a consideration_n of_o the_o character_n which_o the_o papist_n be_v please_v to_o give_v we_o of_o himself_o i_o can_v find_v what_o it_o be_v for_o which_o they_o of_o that_o church_n be_v so_o severe_o bend_v against_o we_o protestant_n save_v only_o that_o we_o will_v not_o like_o tame_a animal_n without_o any_o understanding_n of_o our_o own_o learn_v to_o come_v and_o go_v at_o a_o whistle_n or_o trot_v on_o the_o road_n as_o we_o be_v drive_v and_o stoop_v to_o take_v on_o our_o back_n whatever_o load_v it_o shall_v please_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o lay_v upon_o we_o confess_v she_o to_o have_v absolute_a and_o uncontrollable_a authority_n over_o our_o faith._n the_o stand_v out_o against_o the_o catholic_n church_n make_v man_n heretic_n and_o without_o err_v against_o this_o no_o man_n be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n say_v the_o jesuit_n fisher_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o certain_a question_n propound_v to_o he_o by_o king_n james_n i._o this_o then_o be_v the_o only_a heresy_n to_o disow_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a for_o that_o he_o call_v the_o catholic_n church_n again_o say_v he_o one_o fundamental_a error_n of_o the_o protestant_n be_v their_o deny_v the_o primacy_n of_o st._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n the_o foundation_n which_o christ_n lay_v of_o his_o church_n necessary_a for_o the_o perpetual_a government_n thereof_o and_o again_o he_o that_o forsake_v the_o church_n put_v himself_o into_o a_o dead_a and_o damnable_a state_n and_o may_v have_v all_o thing_n beside_o salvation_n and_o eternal_a life_n bellarmine_n speak_v out_o and_o tell_v we_o very_o plain_o no_o man_n can_v though_o he_o will_v be_v subject_a to_o christ_n and_o communicate_v 5._o with_o the_o celestial_a church_n that_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o pope_n if_o then_o we_o believe_v this_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o believe_v all_o and_o if_o we_o believe_v not_o this_o we_o believe_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o the_o papist_n account_n or_o to_o any_o better_a purpose_n than_o to_o our_o own_o damnation_n so_o that_o without_o this_o belief_n our_o faith_n shall_v never_o pass_v for_o a_o entire_a faith_n and_o when_o we_o once_o believe_v this_o it_o shall_v never_o be_v any_o more_o question_v whether_o it_o be_v entire_a or_o no._n now_o it_o seem_v a_o very_a hard_a matter_n to_o believe_v this_o great_a point_n of_o faith_n till_o very_o good_a reason_n be_v give_v we_o for_o it_o and_o yet_o it_o shall_v seem_v the_o want_n of_o such_o reason_n will_v not_o excuse_v we_o from_o be_v heretic_n and_o in_o a_o state_n of_o damnation_n no_o not_o though_o we_o be_v never_o so_o ready_a to_o believe_v it_o when_o we_o shall_v have_v reason_n give_v we_o for_o it_o for_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n we_o be_v tell_v who_o think_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o other_o stand_v so_o affect_v that_o he_o will_v think_v the_o contrary_a if_o he_o be_v convince_v by_o argument_n or_o if_o the_o matter_n be_v propound_v to_o he_o by_o a_o learned_a man._n and_o on_o the_o contrary_a if_o we_o do_v believe_v this_o we_o can_v hardly_o be_v heretic_n whatever_o error_n we_o believe_v or_o this_o belief_n draw_v we_o into_o for_o if_o a_o rustic_a say_v cardinal_n tolet_n believe_v his_o bishop_n about_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n teach_v 3._o he_o some_o heretical_a doctrine_n he_o merit_v by_o believe_v although_o it_o be_v a_o error_n so_o weighty_a a_o point_n be_v this_o of_o believe_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o ground_v our_o entire_a faith_n upon_o it_o that_o i_o perceive_v i_o be_o concern_v above_o all_o thing_n to_o examine_v it_o thorough_o and_o this_o i_o shall_v have_v fit_a opportunity_n to_o do_v now_o i_o be_o come_v to_o the_o second_o thing_n propound_v sect_n ii_o hitherto_o i_o have_v be_v consider_v what_o ground_n i_o have_v to_o hope_v for_o salvation_n as_o i_o be_o a_o protestant_n and_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o be_o now_o in_o the_o next_o place_n to_o inquire_v whether_o i_o can_v find_v any_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v put_v i_o into_o a_o more_o hopeful_a way_n to_o it_o shall_v i_o turn_v papist_n and_o be_v of_o her_o communion_n now_o see_v i_o have_v already_o find_v that_o the_o great_a reason_n why_o we_o be_v hold_v uncapable_a of_o salvation_n as_o now_o we_o be_v be_v this_o that_o we_o have_v no_o entire_a faith_n and_o the_o defect_n in_o our_o faith_n be_v this_o that_o we_o believe_v not_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o roman_a faith_n and_o that_o which_o make_v it_o necessary_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v all_o those_o article_n be_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n that_o be_v as_o they_o interpret_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o declare_v and_o define_v what_o thing_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o salvation_n of_o christian_n i_o perceive_v i_o have_v no_o more_o to_o do_v for_o my_o full_a satisfaction_n in_o the_o present_a inquiry_n but_o to_o consider_v what_o reason_n i_o can_v have_v for_o the_o own_n and_o submit_v to_o this_o authority_n and_o to_o discern_v this_o i_o think_v this_o method_n fit_a to_o be_v take_v i_o will_v inquire_v into_o three_o thing_n i._n what_o thing_n be_v imply_v in_o that_o submission_n to_o this_o authority_n which_o be_v require_v of_o i_o ii_o what_o the_o ground_n and_o reason_n be_v whereon_o this_o authority_n be_v found_v and_o which_o shall_v persuade_v i_o to_o submit_v iii_o where_o this_o authority_n may_v be_v find_v and_o to_o who_o i_o must_v submit_v and_o this_o be_v all_o i_o think_v that_o i_o need_v to_o do_v for_o i_o can_v never_o think_v fit_a to_o submit_v my_o faith_n and_o conscience_n and_o to_o trust_v my_o salvation_n to_o a_o authority_n which_o either_o require_v of_o i_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v
have_v the_o least_o zeal_n for_o god_n honour_n i_o be_o very_o oerswade_v that_o the_o good_a language_n they_o bestow_v upon_o the_o scripture_n have_v keep_v more_o out_o of_o their_o church_n than_o ever_o their_o argument_n yet_o win_v i_o will_v not_o now_o take_v notice_n of_o those_o too_o well_o know_v encomium_n bestow_v upon_o it_o by_o some_o of_o their_o communion_n call_v it_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n a_o leaden_a rule_n a_o dead_a letter_n unsense_v character_n and_o i_o be_o ashamed_a to_o say_v what_o more_o i_o shall_v only_o observe_v what_o be_v ordinary_o teach_v we_o and_o endeavour_v with_o much_o art_n to_o be_v prove_v by_o their_o best_a most_o modest_a and_o general_o approve_a author_n as_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o necessary_a that_o it_o have_v no_o authority_n as_o to_o we_o but_o from_o the_o church_n that_o it_o be_v a_o imperfect_a a_o insufficient_a rule_n that_o it_o be_v a_o obscure_a book_n and_o final_o a_o very_a dangerous_a one_o to_o be_v read_v by_o the_o people_n i_o know_v very_o well_o that_o the_o representer_n and_o other_o of_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o papist_n believe_v it_o damnable_a in_o any_o one_o to_o think_v speak_v or_o to_o do_v any_o thing_n irreverent_o towards_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o he_o hold_v it_o in_o the_o high_a veneration_n of_o all_o man_n live_v i_o know_v also_o that_o most_o of_o they_o even_o whilst_o they_o be_v industrious_o prove_v all_o that_o i_o but_o now_o say_v do_v yet_o labour_v to_o mollify_v and_o sweeten_v their_o own_o harsh_a expression_n which_o they_o know_v must_v needs_o grate_v the_o ear_n of_o all_o pious_a person_n i_o be_o also_o very_o persuade_v that_o many_o papist_n have_v a_o very_a venerable_a esteem_n for_o the_o scripture_n and_o be_v not_o a_o little_a trouble_v to_o hear_v it_o reproachful_o use_v and_o yet_o i_o can_v see_v that_o high_a veneration_n for_o it_o or_o that_o they_o speak_v not_o very_o irreverent_o of_o it_o who_o speak_v no_o worse_o of_o it_o than_o the_o representer_n himself_o have_v teach_v they_o viz._n that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o be_v read_v general_o of_o all_o without_o licence_n though_o he_o give_v this_o very_a good_a reason_n for_o it_o lest_o they_o shall_v no_o long_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n or_o in_o his_o own_o word_n no_o authority_n leave_v by_o christ_n to_o which_o they_o be_v to_o submit_v as_o though_o man_n may_v be_v teach_v by_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v disobedient_a to_o any_o authority_n which_o christ_n have_v set_v up_o in_o his_o church_n i_o can_v see_v any_o great_a veneration_n he_o have_v to_o the_o scripture_n in_o say_v they_o allow_v a_o restraint_n upon_o the_o read_n of_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o prevent_n of_o a_o blind_a ignorant_a presumption_n or_o the_o cast_n of_o the_o holy_a to_o dog_n or_o pearl_n to_o swine_n such_o too_o be_v his_o respect_n for_o christian_n that_o he_o have_v no_o other_o assurance_n that_o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o by_o the_o authority_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n that_o almost_o every_o text_n of_o the_o bible_n and_o even_o those_o that_o concern_v the_o most_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a point_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n may_v be_v interpret_v several_a way_n and_o make_v to_o signify_v thing_n contrary_a to_o one_o another_o that_o it_o be_v altogether_o silent_a without_o discover_v which_o of_o all_o those_o sense_n be_v that_o intend_a by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o lead_v to_o truth_n and_o which_o be_v erroneous_a and_o antichristian_a that_o a_o man_n may_v frame_v as_o many_o creed_n as_o he_o please_v and_o make_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n speak_v what_o shall_v be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o his_o humour_n and_o suit_n best_o with_o his_o interest_n and_o find_v plain_a proof_n for_o all_o that_o it_o alone_o can_v be_v no_o rule_n of_o faith_n to_o any_o private_a or_o particular_a person_n certain_o they_o who_o talk_v of_o the_o scripture_n at_o this_o rate_n have_v not_o the_o high_a veneration_n for_o it_o of_o all_o man_n live_v they_o that_o say_v and_o labour_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o necessary_a may_v well_o be_v suppose_v to_o think_v that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v do_v well_o enough_o without_o it_o and_o though_o to_o lessen_v the_o odiousness_n of_o this_o assertion_n they_o be_v force_v to_o confess_v it_o be_v a_o lie_n without_o the_o help_n of_o some_o such_o mental_a reservation_n as_o this_o so_o that_o god_n can_v not_o if_o he_o please_v preserve_v his_o truth_n among_o man_n some_o other_o way_n than_o by_o write_v it_o yet_o do_v not_o this_o speak_v in_o they_o the_o like_a veneration_n for_o the_o scripture_n as_o protestant_n have_v who_o down-right_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v necessary_a and_o it_o must_v needs_o sound_v ill_a to_o say_v that_o the_o alwise_a god_n have_v be_v very_o careful_a to_o leave_v and_o preserve_v in_o his_o church_n a_o unnecessary_a thing_n yea_o it_o be_v altogether_o as_o absurd_a to_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v not_o necessary_a because_o god_n can_v if_o it_o have_v seem_v good_a to_o he_o have_v preserve_v his_o church_n and_o faith_n without_o it_o as_o it_o will_v be_v to_o say_v that_o plough_v and_o sow_v or_o eat_v and_o drink_v be_v not_o necessary_a because_o god_n can_v if_o he_o please_v make_v the_o ground_n bring_v forth_o without_o the_o one_o and_o preserve_v man_n life_n without_o the_o other_o nor_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v that_o any_o man_n upon_o this_o account_n only_o will_v venture_v to_o say_v and_o attempt_v to_o prove_v the_o scripture_n not_o to_o be_v necessary_a in_o a_o sense_n wherein_o no_o man_n ever_o affirm_v it_o if_o he_o be_v not_o so_o zealous_o bend_v upon_o lessen_v the_o esteem_n which_o we_o have_v for_o it_o that_o he_o will_v choose_v rather_o to_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n and_o dispute_v against_o no_o body_n than_o to_o be_v silent_a and_o say_v nothing_o that_o sound_v ill_a of_o it_o and_o that_o he_o think_v it_o needful_a for_o the_o end_n of_o his_o church_n so_o to_o do_v in_o like_a manner_n when_o they_o contend_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v from_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n whereof_o at_o every_o turn_n they_o be_v forward_o enough_o to_o mind_v we_o they_o be_v force_v again_o to_o make_v some_o abatement_n to_o make_v it_o seem_v a_o truth_n it_o be_v true_a they_o say_v that_o consider_v in_o itself_o alone_o it_o have_v its_o authority_n from_o god_n whereby_o they_o can_v mean_v no_o more_o but_o that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o but_o in_o relation_n to_o we_o it_o have_v its_o authority_n from_o the_o church_n now_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v what_o any_o man_n can_v understand_v proper_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o its_o relation_n to_o we_o or_o the_o power_n it_o have_v to_o command_v our_o faith_n in_o it_o and_o obedience_n to_o it_o as_o the_o word_n of_o god._n and_o if_o it_o have_v all_o this_o power_n from_o the_o church_n as_o be_v confident_o affirm_v then_o though_o itself_o be_v of_o god_n yet_o all_o its_o authority_n be_v from_o the_o church_n and_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v true_a which_o be_v say_v by_o one_o of_o they_o that_o it_o be_v of_o no_o more_o authority_n than_o livy_n or_o aesop_n aesop_n s_z fable_n without_o the_o church_n declaration_n thus_o be_v the_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n make_v to_o depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n and_o all_o our_o faith_n be_v no_o more_o but_o humane_a faith_n rest_v upon_o humane_a testimony_n and_o if_o the_o authority_n which_o it_o have_v to_o oblige_v we_o be_v from_o the_o church_n i_o will_v know_v by_o what_o authority_n it_o do_v oblige_v the_o church_n it_o be_v not_o sure_a by_o any_o authority_n from_o she_o for_o than_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o church_n may_v not_o choose_v whether_o she_o will_v receive_v it_o or_o no_o whilst_o yet_o i_o think_v that_o it_o be_v only_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o she_o can_v pretend_v to_o be_v a_o church_n and_o to_o have_v any_o authority_n at_o all_o however_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o that_o they_o who_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v for_o the_o church_n sake_n have_v not_o so_o high_a a_o veneration_n either_o for_o it_o or_o the_o author_n of_o it_o as_o they_o who_o say_v it_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v for_o god_n sake_n and_o in_o the_o next_o place_n whether_o we_o who_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v a_o perfect_a and_o sufficient_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n contain_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n or_o they_o
reason_n he_o deny_v that_o any_o reason_n can_v convince_v i_o because_o it_o be_v plain_a they_o can_v convince_v i_o before_o i_o have_v judge_v of_o they_o and_o this_o i_o must_v do_v by_o my_o private_a judgement_n or_o by_o nothing_o for_o i_o have_v no_o other_o but_o here_o i_o be_o tell_v we_o be_v allow_v to_o make_v use_n of_o our_o reason_n to_o find_v out_o the_o true_a church_n which_o may_v infallible_o guide_v we_o into_o all_o save_a truth_n all_o that_o be_v require_v of_o we_o be_v this_o that_o when_o we_o have_v once_o find_v this_o true_a church_n we_o presume_v no_o long_o to_o judge_n for_o ourselves_o but_o captivate_v our_o reason_n to_o the_o infallible_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n this_o be_v something_o and_o yet_o it_o seem_v but_o extort_a from_o they_o to_o make_v a_o little_a more_o plausible_a what_o to_o i_o seem_v one_o of_o the_o great_a piece_n of_o folly_n in_o the_o world_n i_o mean_v the_o attempt_n of_o convince_a man_n by_o reason_n who_o must_v not_o be_v allow_v to_o judge_n of_o the_o reason_n whereby_o they_o must_v be_v convince_v i_o find_v reason_n by_o a_o traditionary_a papist_n compare_v to_o a_o dim-sighted_a man_n who_o use_v his_o reason_n to_o find_v a_o trusty_a friend_n to_o lead_v he_o in_o the_o twilight_n and_o then_o rely_v on_o his_o guidance_n rational_o without_o use_v his_o own_o reason_n at_o all_o about_o the_o way_n itself_o thus_o be_v we_o allow_v reason_n to_o find_v out_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n our_o sure_a friend_n to_o guide_v we_o and_o on_o who_o guidance_n we_o must_v rational_o rely_v after_o we_o have_v captivate_v our_o reason_n to_o she_o and_o for_o her_o sake_n have_v resolve_v to_o use_v it_o no_o more_o but_o now_o if_o this_o reason_n which_o be_v to_o direct_v we_o to_o our_o guide_n be_v such_o a_o dim-sighted_a thing_n and_o as_o we_o hear_v before_o hoodwinked_a too_o so_o that_o whilst_o we_o follow_v it_o we_o can_v have_v no_o more_o hope_n than_o only_o that_o we_o may_v possible_o stumble_v into_o the_o catholic_n church_n who_o will_v secure_v we_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o in_o this_o twilight_n mistake_v a_o treacherous_a enemy_n for_o a_o trusty_a friend_n and_o then_o what_o shall_v we_o gain_v by_o our_o rational_a reliance_n on_o he_o a_o dim-sighted_a man_n in_o the_o twilight_n may_v easy_o mistake_v one_o thing_n for_o another_o else_o shall_v he_o not_o much_o need_n a_o trusty_a guide_n and_o why_o he_o may_v not_o mistake_v his_o guide_n as_o well_o as_o his_o way_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o know_v but_o that_o i_o may_v be_v satisfy_v how_o much_o i_o gain_v by_o this_o liberal_a concession_n to_o use_v my_o reason_n and_o private_a judgement_n in_o inquire_v after_o the_o true_a church_n i_o will_v a_o little_a consider_v how_o the_o papist_n be_v wont_a to_o talk_v with_o i_o when_o he_o will_v persuade_v i_o to_o take_v his_o church_n for_o my_o only_a sure_a guide_n first_o he_o tell_v i_o there_o be_v but_o one_o true_a faith_n and_o then_o that_o this_o faith_n must_v be_v hold_v entire_o next_o that_o this_o entire_a faith_n be_v nowhere_o to_o be_v find_v but_o in_o the_o true_a church_n after_o this_o he_o begin_v again_o and_o tell_v i_o christ_n have_v a_o church_n upon_o earth_n that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o true_a church_n that_o out_o of_o it_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n and_o last_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o no_o other_o be_v that_o one_o true_a church_n out_o of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n and_o till_o we_o have_v find_v that_o it_o be_v so_o he_o will_v give_v we_o leave_v to_o judge_n for_o ourselves_o and_o i_o will_v thank_v he_o for_o this_o kindness_n if_o he_o will_v allow_v i_o to_o enjoy_v the_o benefit_n of_o it_o and_o to_o make_v any_o use_n of_o it_o otherwise_o it_o will_v look_v but_o like_o a_o mockery_n i_o desire_v therefore_o some_o clear_a convince_a evidence_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o only_a true_a church_n he_o can_v to_o this_o purpose_n produce_v the_o consent_n of_o all_o christian_n for_o two_o part_n in_o three_o deny_v it_o therefore_o he_o give_v i_o a_o great_a many_o mark_n or_o sign_n sometime_o more_o sometime_o few_o whereby_o the_o only_a true_a church_n must_v be_v know_v from_o other_o and_o spend_v a_o great_a many_o word_n in_o show_v i_o how_o they_o agree_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o no_o other_o that_o wherein_o i_o will_v next_o have_v same_o satisfaction_n be_v suppose_v that_o all_o his_o mark_n agree_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o no_o other_o how_o i_o may_v know_v that_o these_o be_v indeed_o the_o certain_a and_o incommunicable_a mark_n and_o propriety_n of_o the_o only_a true_a church_n to_o prove_v this_o he_o betake_v himself_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o bring_v i_o thence_o some_o text_n whereby_o he_o say_v they_o be_v clear_o prove_v to_o be_v so_o i_o now_o with_o a_o very_a hearty_a and_o sincere_a desire_n to_o learn_v the_o truth_n and_o with_o all_o diligent_a use_n of_o such_o help_n as_o i_o can_v come_v by_o read_v and_o consider_v all_o these_o text_n and_o can_v discern_v in_o they_o any_o evidenee_n at_o all_o of_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v and_o therefore_o think_v it_o reasonable_a yet_o to_o call_v for_o some_o clear_a proof_n but_o now_o when_o it_o be_v come_v to_o this_o i_o present_o find_v that_o his_o liberal_a concession_n to_o make_v use_n of_o my_o reason_n and_o private_a judgement_n to_o find_v out_o the_o true_a church_n amount_v to_o no_o more_o than_o i_o at_o first_o suspect_v that_o be_v just_a nothing_o for_o here_o he_o retire_v to_o his_o principle_n of_o porery_n that_o i_o be_v a_o private_a person_n ought_v not_o to_o judge_n for_o myself_o what_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o those_o text_n of_o scripture_n but_o must_v submit_v my_o reason_n and_o judgement_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n yea_o even_o before_o i_o have_v find_v the_o church_n and_o without_o any_o dispute_n receive_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n from_o her_o alone_a thus_o he_o recal_n at_o once_o all_o that_o he_o have_v allow_v and_o undo_v again_o whatsoever_o he_o have_v be_v adoing_o to_o persuade_v i_o to_o his_o communion_n he_o be_v give_v i_o reason_n which_o may_v convince_v i_o in_o my_o judgement_n and_o these_o at_o length_n resolve_v all_o into_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o of_o this_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n i_o must_v not_o judge_n and_o therefore_o by_o it_o i_o can_v be_v convince_v of_o any_o thing_n but_o this_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v resolve_v to_o be_v mistress_n of_o all_o christian_n and_o think_v it_o enough_o to_o convince_v we_o that_o she_o be_v so_o if_o whilst_o she_o set_v some_o of_o her_o son_n to_o hold_v we_o up_o in_o empty_a talk_n of_o scripture_n and_o reason_n to_o no_o purpose_n she_o step_v out_o from_o behind_o the_o curtain_n say_v believe_v it_o i_o be_o she_o now_o i_o can_v possible_o see_v whatever_o other_o may_v do_v for_o i_o keep_v yet_o to_o my_o protestant_a principle_n of_o judge_v for_o no_o man_n but_o myself_o how_o i_o can_v embrace_v popery_n upon_o any_o conviction_n from_o papist_n and_o i_o fear_v i_o must_v either_o take_v it_o without_o any_o reason_n for_o it_o or_o not_o at_o all_o if_o i_o can_v know_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v the_o only_a true_a church_n but_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o if_o i_o can_v understand_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n till_o i_o receive_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o it_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o if_o i_o can_v take_v that_o for_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o it_o upon_o her_o declaration_n of_o it_o so_o to_o be_v unless_o move_v by_o her_o authority_n i_o must_v be_v persuade_v to_o do_v the_o most_o unreasonable_a thing_n in_o the_o world_n to_o my_o think_n to_o believe_v a_o church_n to_o be_v the_o only_a true_a church_n for_o her_o own_o authority_n which_o i_o yet_o know_v no_o more_o than_o i_o do_v she_o to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n which_o it_o be_v all_o along_o suppose_v i_o do_v not_o know_v at_o all_o this_o i_o think_v not_o only_o unreasonable_a but_o impossible_a i_o must_v needs_o confess_v myself_o very_o hard_o to_o be_v persuade_v of_o the_o tender_a goodness_n of_o that_o mother_n who_o lest_o her_o child_n shall_v get_v hurt_v by_o the_o dimness_n of_o their_o sight_n will_v needs_o pull_v out_o their_o eye_n and_o keep_v they_o in_o her_o pocket_n till_o she_o have_v teach_v they_o to_o use_v they_o better_o i_o be_o very_o loath_a to_o part_v with_o my_o reason_n how_o dim-sighted_a soever_o because_o