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little_a on_o what_o he_o assert_n when_o he_o so_o bold_o aver_v that_o the_o sense_n of_o a_o change_n of_o person_n between_o christ_n and_o we_o must_v be_v that_o we_o be_v change_v for_o he_o so_o as_o to_o die_v for_o his_o sin_n never_o do_v a_o socinus_n a_o crellius_n or_o any_o rash_a english_a unitarian_n charge_v this_o phrase_n and_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o reform_a with_o more_o than_o blasphemy_n but_o 3._o where_o be_v the_o man_n that_o ever_o give_v such_o a_o sense_n of_o this_o phrase_n the_o learned_a witsius_n be_v persuade_v that_o never_o any_o one_o who_o understand_v divinity_n no_o not_o a_o man_n in_o his_o wit_n do_v ever_o dream_n of_o such_o a_o permutation_n of_o person_n as_o that_o which_o place_n the_o saviour_n among_o the_o save_v iren._n animad_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 8._o and_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o crellius_n though_o he_o fasten_v a_o wrong_a sense_n upon_o the_o word_n surrogation_n it_o be_v not_o such_o a_o blasphemous_a one_o for_o when_o he_o say_v there_o be_v not_o a_o proper_a surrogation_n in_o christ_n die_v for_o we_o it_o be_v say_v he_o because_o a_o proper_a surrogation_n must_v be_v such_o a_o commutation_n of_o person_n that_o the_o substitute_v person_n be_v in_o all_o respect_n to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o state_n wherein_o the_o other_o be_v and_o if_o it_o refer_v to_o suffering_n than_o it_o be_v when_o one_o suffer_v the_o very_a same_o which_o the_o other_o be_v to_o suffer_v he_o be_v immediate_o deliver_v by_o the_o other_o suffering_n but_o in_o answer_n unto_o crellius_n it_o be_v clear_v that_o to_o endure_v the_o same_o punishment_n in_o all_o respect_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o a_o proper_a surrogation_n that_o if_o david_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o worcester_n have_v it_o have_v obtain_v his_o wish_n that_o he_o have_v die_v for_o his_o son_n absolom_n it_o have_v not_o be_v necessary_a in_o order_n to_o his_o son_n escape_v that_o he_o have_v hang_v by_o the_o hair_n of_o his_o head_n as_o his_o son_n but_o his_o death_n though_o in_o other_o circumstance_n have_v be_v sufficient_a and_o therefore_o when_o the_o lawyer_n say_v subrogatum_fw-la sapit_fw-la naturam_fw-la ejus_fw-la in_fw-la cujus_fw-la locum_fw-la subrogatur_fw-la coverruvias_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v secundum_fw-la primordiaâ—em_fw-la naturam_fw-la non_fw-la secundum_fw-la accidentalem_fw-la from_o whence_o it_o appear_v that_o all_o circumstance_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o surrogation_n but_o that_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o punishment_n remain_v discourse_n of_o christ_n suff_v 〈◊〉_d p._n 324._o but_o where_o be_v the_o man_n who_o at_o any_o time_n fancy_v that_o a_o commutation_n of_o person_n between_o christ_n aâ—â—_n we_o must_v signify_v that_o as_o christ_n suffer_v for_o we_o 〈◊〉_d we_o suffer_v for_o christ_n there_o be_v a_o commutation_n between_o a_o surety_n and_o the_o debtor_n which_o be_v when_o the_o surety_n sustain_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o be_v apply_v to_o person_n it_o signify_v the_o come_n of_o one_o into_o the_o room_n and_o place_n of_o another_o by_o succession_n thus_o archelaus_n be_v say_v to_o reign_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o herod_n that_o be_v he_o succeed_v herod_n in_o the_o throne_n socinus_n when_o press_v dare_v not_o deny_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o many_o do_v signify_v a_o commutation_n we_o be_v debitores_fw-la mortis_fw-la from_o this_o debt_n we_o be_v discharge_v by_o christ_n give_v somewhat_o to_o give_v somewhat_o that_o by_o it_o we_o may_v be_v discharge_v be_v to_o pay_v or_o satisfy_v this_o phrase_n therefore_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o give_v for_o many_o do_v always_o signify_v a_o true_a commutation_n not_o a_o metaphorical_a one_o as_o socinus_n without_o any_o precedent_n affirm_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o do_v necessary_o denote_v a_o commutation_n grot._n de_fw-fr satis_fw-la cap._n 9_o here_o be_v not_o a_o 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