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A67648 Dr. Stillingfleet still against Dr. Stillingfleet, or, The examination of Dr. Stillingfleet against Dr. Stillingfleet examined by J.W. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1675 (1675) Wing W910; ESTC R34719 108,236 297

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acknowledge_v his_o commission_n and_o god_n broad_a seal_n viz._n evident_a miracle_n wrought_v by_o he_o when_o in_o a_o full_a assembly_n they_o affirm_v joan_n 11._o hic_fw-la homo_fw-la multa_fw-la signa_fw-la facit_fw-la this_o man_n christ_n work_v many_o miracle_n and_o certain_o such_o a_o public_a attestation_n as_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o countenance_n and_o acknowledge_v his_o commission_n though_o out_o of_o obstinacy_n they_o will_v not_o submit_v to_o his_o doctrine_n as_o pilate_n declare_v our_o saviour_n to_o be_v innocent_a and_o guiltless_a yet_o out_o of_o fear_n lest_o he_o shall_v disgust_v caesar_n condemn_v he_o to_o death_n i_o can_v omit_v here_o the_o two_o famous_a yet_o contradictory_n revelation_n which_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v make_v to_o st._n bridgit_n and_o st._n catherine_n concern_v the_o immaculate_a conception_n of_o our_o bless_a lady_n to_o st._n bridgit_n that_o she_o be_v conceive_v without_o original_a sin_n to_o st._n catherine_n that_o she_o be_v conceive_v with_o original_a sin_n dr._n st._n scarce_o publish_v a_o book_n wherein_o he_o do_v not_o insert_v these_o revelation_n pretend_v thereby_o to_o blow_v up_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o she_o canonize_v for_o saint_n both_o st._n bridgit_n and_o st._n catherine_n and_o approve_v their_o revelation_n and_o consequent_o something_o that_o be_v false_a as_o necessary_o one_o of_o the_o forementioned_a revelation_n must_v be_v particular_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v hence_o against_o i_o that_o submission_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o a_o rule_n to_o judge_v fanaticisme_n by_o for_o both_o these_o revelation_n be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o yet_o one_o of_o they_o be_v false_a and_o therefore_o fanatical_a and_o one_o of_o those_o saint_n either_o be_v deceive_v or_o go_v about_o to_o deceive_v and_o by_o consequence_n be_v a_o fanatic_a see_v the_o dr._n pag._n 61_o 62._o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o dr._n have_v never_o yet_o show_v that_o