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to_o witâ—_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la do_v work_n &_o convert_v breaâ—_n and_o wine_n into_o flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o prove_v the_o same_o by_o many_o other_o example_n of_o scripture_n sermo_n christi_n say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d nihilo_fw-la facere_fw-la initiantur_fw-la â—nd_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la non_fw-la potâ—st_fw-la ea_fw-la quâ—_n sunt_fw-la in_o id_fw-la mutare_fw-la quae_fw-la â—n_fw-la erant_fw-la the_o speech_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v able_a to_o make_v of_o nothing_o that_o which_o be_v not_o before_o shall_v it_o not_o be_v able_a to_o change_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v before_o into_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o and_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la ergo_fw-la sermo_fw-la christi_fw-la hoc_fw-la conficit_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la 4._o qui_fw-la sermo_fw-la nempè_fw-la be_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o speech_n of_o christ_n do_v make_v this_o sacrament_n
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