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A34077 The plausible arguments of a Romish priest answered by an English Protestant seasonable and useful for all Protestant families. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1686 (1686) Wing C5481; ESTC R16555 28,548 65

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we_o must_v take_v our_o notion_n of_o it_o from_o scripture_n and_o from_o christ_n who_o institute_v it_o and_o he_o bid_v we_o do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o he_o luk._n xxii_o 19_o and_o s._n paul_n do_v not_o say_v it_o be_v the_o lord_n death_n but_o the_o show_v forth_o of_o his_o death_n 1_o cor._n xi_o 26._o yea_o he_o make_v this_o the_o main_a difference_n between_o the_o legal_a sacrifice_n and_o that_o of_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n that_o they_o be_v often_o offer_v but_o he_o be_v only_o to_o be_v offer_v once_o and_o by_o that_o one_o offer_v have_v perfect_o satisfy_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n hebr._n ix_o 25_o 26._o and_o chap._n x._o 14._o so_o that_o this_o sacrament_n be_v certain_o a_o