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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A80821	Innocency vindicated: in answer to a pamphlet entituled A few words to Nath. Coleman's epistle, &c. ... Published for clearing the truth, not out of love to, or desire of contention.	Crisp, Thomas, 17th cent.	1683 (1683)	Wing C6951A; ESTC R174309	19,292	16

come and buy of me They add in pag. 8. Which went before old Israel and in pag. 12. leave out these words of N. C. Which Shines in all in your Hearts and Consciences c. For by these words it is evident N. C. could not mean as they say that visible Cloud and Fire visible to the outward eye but the invisible to the carnal Eye that they look with Light or Spirit of Christ which as N. C. truly says shines in all their Hearts and Consciences And for all these Inquisitors do so often call it new Doctrine and for Scripture yet they have not by Scripture proved it new or unsound for in Scripture Christ is termed a Door a Vine c. which are but Metaphors and not that he is strictly such So is N. C's meaning as is evident from his following words by them left out for by Cloud by Day and Pillar by Night is meant only the Certainty or Visibility of this Dispensation of Christs Light and not that Dispensation or appearance that was visible to old Israel in the Winderness For although that Dispensation had differing appearances as a Cloud Fire yet it is not to be taken as two different things but one and the same that appeared by day and night And if you had lived in those days when the Apostle said of the Rock that followed Israel that it was Christ surely you would have termed it New and Vnsound Doctrine and called for plain Scripture to prove it for the Light may as properly be termed The Pillar of Fire or Cloud that shines in all his Peoples Hearts as the Rock was Christ Pag. 8. Again you pervert N. C. his words in pag. 6. he speaks of some that act and not from the Guidance of Gods Spirit he advises them to take heed that they provoke not the Lord and they perished from the Knowledge of him in their own particulars for says he for want of that i. e. the knowledge of him in their own particulars the People perished in all Generations But you cite not his words truly but forge a Sentence of your own saying to N. C. Thou speaking of the Knowledge of God sayest say you for want of that the People perish But you mention not N. C's words which shew what Knowledge he means Viz. The Knowledge of God in their own particulars but you perversly say This Complaint was made by the Lord through his Prophets but it was when the Priests Lips should keep the Peoples Knowledge But you care not to admit it to be the State of People now for it seems not your Interest that People should know the Lord in their own particulars but G. F. and you of the Second-days Meeting which is the Knowledge N. C. saith they perish for want of although you Forger-like leave those words out and pervert his meaning as if he meant natural and common Knowledge as Men as is evident by your following words saying What thinkest thou if those Men perish will it be for want of Knowledge or for want of Obedience Hereby insinua●ing as if N. C. preferred Knowledge before Obedience But know you new Lords that in Scripture sence Disobedience is taken for Ignorance or not knowing as in that Prophet cited by you it is said Israel followed her Lovers and forgot me And again Ephraim Provoked him with High Places therefore shall his Blood be poured upon him Also it is said Samaria shall be Desolate for she hath rebelled against the Lord. By these it is evident that People were punisht for Disobedience and Rebellion and not for want of knowing their Duty for they could not properly be said to have forgot God unless they had had the Knowledge of God and you abuse the Scripture to infer as if those People in Hosea's Days were so ignorant for he said My God will cast them away because they did not obey him And for all that you make so much difference between then and now as if their Knowledge was to come from the Priests yet Moses directed them to the same Word of Faith as the Apostles preacht and not to the Priests Lips without saying The Word is nigh in the Heart and Mouth c. Also the Apostle says of the Gentiles Romans first Because when they knew God they glorifyed him not as God wherefore God gave them up to their Hearts Lusts Whereby 't is evident that not only the Jews but the Gentiles also perisht for want of Obedience and not for want of Knowledge and the Caution as worded by N. C. is very proper for this Generation although you put it off to past Ages for Christ said It was Eternal Life to know God and Jesus Christ whom he had sent And it is not for want of this i. e. eternal Life that the People perish now but in your esteem the people perish for want of obeying your Laws of Womens-Meetings apart from Men and they to have power to examine Men twice before they marry or else not to Suffer or Permit say you Marriages and for not conforming to such your new invented Laws you have the Impudence to defame and unchristian People for should the Knowledge of the Lord in their own particulars be increased then you G. W. c. Shrine-Makers your Craft by which you have gotten much Gain will be in danger In your Postscript pag. 11. You cite N. C's words from his 2d page Viz. The Kingdom of God comes not in Outward Observations but is felt within therefore all gather in from that which would draw out the Mind from God to observe days c. But as you are inwardly drawn by the Truth in your own particulars Then in your 12th page you say to N. C. May the People of God have their Mind by the Truth in their own particulars inwardly drawn from God c. And you go on and say What RANTING Doctrine is herse asserted that the Trtuh may draw Peoples Minds off from God c. You have saved me the proving your Doctrine Babylonish and Ranting for you have confessed it but I shall prove this Doctrine not N. C's but yours for he says not so nor is it deducible from his words for his words be sound he warns Friends from THAT which would draw the Mind from God he doth not say nor mean the THAT which would draw the Mind from God is the Truth for that cannot be but N. C's words do imply that there is such a Principle or Spirit which he terms THAT even that of yours which leads you thus to bely him and pervert his words and falsly accuse your Brethren and would compell them to fall down and worship your great Idol and you do by your practice teach that unless People will be circumcised with G. F's Circumcision and keep his and your Laws they cannot be saved this is the THAT which N. C. warns from which you call the Spirit of God and Truth and which drew out their Minds to that erronious

shew that your Babel Spirit is confounded at the weight of N. C's sound Testimony but your quarrel is because he terms them Gods Children c. For say you Those words MAY BE clearly imply they are not yet Also you say Are the Children of God still in Vnbelief c. But N. C. did not say they were in Unbelief c. But had you been imployed by the Spirit of Charity and Humility that would have imployed you better than thus to strive about words whereof cometh Envy c. And although Gods Children are not properly and strictly to be said to be in Darkness and Unbelief yet we find Peter term them he wrote to the Elect according to the foreknowledge of God begotten of God into a lively hope to an Inheritance uncorruptable reserved in Heaven saith he for you Yet to them he also says Let none of you suffer as a Murtherer c. Also to those he termed HOLY BRETHREN and in whom it is said The Word of God did abide yet they are bid Not to love the World c. Harden not their Hearts c. Many Instances may be given from Scripture that sufficiently clear N. C. from you Charge him with Viz. his Confusion c. But your confused Babylonish Spirit of Strife might have said to the Apostles What Can the Elect of God be Murderers c. What Confusion is here But if you regard not the Scriptures methinks you should have regard to your Master G. F. for he hath said to some You are manifestly declared to be the Epistle of Christ wrote with the Spirit of the Living God which not shall or will but hath given you Life saith he and will bring you to the City of the Living God These are as high Titles as N. C's and given to them that were then in Errour which is not the way of Light but rather of Darkness which you say is the way of the Wicked But they could sacrifice all Spirituals and Temporals to this Spirit of Pride and Envy of G. F's and term it as you do the Spirit of God And surely notwithstanding these were such HIGH GROWN CHRISTIANS with G. F. yet their State as well as many more among you need such Counsel as N. C's is that you term Confusion Viz. Believe in the Light c. Now you have herein shewed yourselves partial and respectors of Persons and are found doing the same things your selves that you condemn N. C. for and therein do appear not Ministers of Christ but false Apostles and evil Workers for what harm is there in saying to any Believe in the Light for how oft said Christ to Peter Lovest thou me And the same Judgment you have given against N. C. G. F. is under for the same you meet to others you shall have And your Unrighteousness is further manifest in that you so oft call for plain Scripture to prove But then did you as you ought you would have proved by plain Scripture this Counsel of N. C's to be Coufusion but that you cannot do but abuse and pervert his words in your 5th pag. where you cite a few of his words saying God is feeding his Flock with the Bread of Knowledge This is but part of N. C's Sentence for you leave off at the word Knowledge where there is not the least stop yet N. C's Sentence is in his 2d pag. thus Whom he is feeding with the Bread of Knowledge and Understanding of those things belonging to your Everlasting Peace These ten last words you leave on t And indeed the words neither sound Doctrine nor good sense as they wicked Atheist-like cite them their own term And that so you may abuse the Reader as well as belye N. C. you mention not from what page in his Book you cite those words your old trick but having forged a Sentence then you call on N. C. for Scripture to prove it and abuse the Scripture also for you say in page 6. God commanded Adam that he should not eat of the Tree of Knowledge You leave out THE there and also those words next adjoyning to Knowledge Viz. of Good and Evil that thereby you might run down Knowledge and nurse up Ignorance By thy Complexion O Babel it is easie to guess whose Daughter thou art Out of thy own mouth art thou condemned for you term T. C. wicked Atheist for leaving out some superfluous words in the Sentence and not material to the Matter but for your Prof that N. C's is as you say new Doctrine you say Christ is the Bread of Life Well N. C. never said to the contrary But Christ said To know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent is eternal Life And this KNOWLEDGE of Christ is Meat indeed and I think may be fed on by the true Christians altho dispised by you and is not as I know of any where forbid by God and it is wrote He was to give Knowledge of Salvation unto his People c. This is plain Scripture but it seems is New Doctrine to you New Spiritual Lords of G. F's Conclave And this is the Knowledge and not the TREE of Knowledge forbid by God as you would perversly insinuate that N. C. means and seeing this is to you New Doctrine Viz. That God is feeding his Flock with the Knowledge of those Things which belong to their Everlasting Peace It is evident yours is another Gospel than the Scripture declares of therefore you to be accurst also your Forgery is manifest in this Passage for N. C. doth not say God is feeding with the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Fvil forbid Adam but he says with the knowledge of those things belonging to their everlasting Peace and I think there is not much difference in substance between N. C's term of Feeding and that in the Scripture afore cited of giving and that also of Salvation and N. C's term everlasting Peace And therefore although you impudently term N. C. Fool and Novice pag. 12. yet you appear more like such than he also by your continuing your Pervertion on N. C's sound words In his third page he says All fear Him i. e. God who says N. C. is able to cast into HELL FIRE where i. e. in Hell the Fire never goeth out but remains for ever on the Minds of such as disobey the Truth which is the earnest of their everlasting Misery that is their Portion for ever Then you begin to cavil and query in page 6 and 7. If any should be prevailed on to disobey the Truth say you is there no way for their Restoration c. Will not that Faith that he i. e. God is Author of procure no relief I answer that in HELL as N. C. says where the Fire never goeth out there is no way for their Restoration nor no Relief and that I will prove by Scripture The Wicked and all that forget God shall be cast into Hell where their Worm never dyeth Also the

gives the final Determination of Matters of Religion and that only in the Conscience of every Christian to himself This was and is sound Protestancy But perhaps that may not be for your Advancement now to appear such but rather on the contrary Believe as the Church believes that is more likely to advance G. W. to G. F's Place of Chief or Arch-bishop of all your Party and then why may not your Father allow the Order of St. George as well as of St. Francis c. You cannot assume a more seeming harmless Title than your Brethren the Jesuits have Viz. The Order of Jesus Pag. 13. They say to N. C. Thou warns Gods People not to joyn to any Form And then they perversly paraphrase on this their Forgery and say Though the Apostle exhorted to turn from those that had the Form of Godliness and not the Power yet say you I never read that he exhorted not to joyn to any Form Hereby rendring N. C's words in general against any Forms without exception when as N. C's words have in the same Sentence an Exception Viz. But as you are led by the Pillar of Cloud by Day and Fire by Night which shines in all your Hearts says N. C. Now these 24 words they leave out and take no notice of in this Forgery to make him appear against any or all Form when as it is evident by the following words N. C. admits that they may be led into some Forms by that Light which shines in their Hearts c. which he there metaphorically terms a Pillar of Fire or Cloud which terms be not strictly but figuratively used there as G. W. says of the Titles of their Books and I cannot express the greatness of their Envy and Falseness in this for in their using this one sentence of N. C. pag. 4. they 1st in their 8th page add in words and then here in the 12th page leave out words to pervert N. C's words and render him as preaching another Ministration than Christ and also to preach up a Visible Cloud to the Outward Eye and that Cloud and Pillar which appeared to Old Israel and now also for fear that their Wickedness should be manifest in these absurd Forgeries on N. C. they have another Forgery from the same Sentence that N. C. counsels God's People against any i. e. all Forms All which be their own Forgeries and not N. C's words nor sence for by this their way of dealing one may undertake to prove or disprove what they please nay one may charge Christ himself with saying that which was not true for he said Those whom thou hast given me none is lost but the Son of Perdition Now if one should cite only those first words Viz. Of those which thou hast given me none is lost and leave out these latter words Viz. but the Son of Perdition as they do by N. C. then the sence is quite altered and those words a general affirmation that none was lost when as the Son of Perdition was lost Thus wicked Atheist-like do these People abuse and forge false Sentences and render them N. C's and then for a further blind to their Wickedness in pag. 13. they bring in N. C's words But as you are led by the Pillar c. And then query in pag. 13. May they by this Pillar be drawn from the Guidance of God's Spirit within them c. And again in the same 13th page you again set up your Inquisition Office and say to N. C. Dost thou believe that this Pillar will lead from the Spirit of God within c. I say there is no ground from N. C's words for this Query for he never said they may but as I have said before by Pillar he means Spirit and that they be but one although differing Appellations as many more are given in Scripture to God as Fire Love c. yet but one and as I said those terms of Pillar of Fire and Cloud be but figuratively and not strictly and N. C. means but one and not two distinct Principles but the Pillar the Spirit and the Spirit the Pillar and that cannot draw from its self for God is not devided And had N. C. expressed that Pillar and Cloud that appeared to Old Israel which you seem by your Query to say was visible to the Outward Eye pag. 8. yet it is absurd if not Blasphemy to suppose that could or would lead from God but N. C's words of Exception which follow viz. but c. do as I aforesaid manifest his Christian Charity in that he doth not condemn or advise against all Forms in general but allow that some may be led into some Outward Observations by the Pillar or Spirit and this you could not but know If You had quite deserted Christianity had not you also abandoned Morality and for that you seem in your 13th page to blame N. C. saying to him Thou seems to make the Pillar of Fire and the Spirit two differing things But this also is proved false for N. C. means but one by those two as is aforesaid but you seem to make them two differing things in your 8th page saying Doth not God by his Light and not by that Pillar Old Israel followed shine into Mens Hearts c. Also again in the 12th page you blame N. C. for preaching up the Pillar c. to lead out of Transgression which say you is the Work of Christ in this Gospel day By these words giving cause to think that you do not believe it was Christ's Work in former days to lead out of Transgression but your perverse Spirit is here manifest in that you seem to blame N. C. for what you do your selves Viz. seem to make the Spirit and Pillar two differing things Hereby you bring your selves under that Judgment Viz. condemning another and do the same thing And although you so despise N. C. and his good Counsel for supposing any whom he terms Gods People to be in a State that hath any Night as is evident from your Saying in page 13. Why dost thou direct the Sons of Zion to follow the Pillar of Fire by Night c. And then you say Paul said You are all Children of the Light you are not of the Night Yet among you are evil Works which are of the Night and therefore you are not yet in that Jerusalem you speak of where you say There is no Night Pag. 14. You say The Lord grant that they i. e. his People may know Jesus to put them forth of all that is contrary to his Mind Hereby you seem to admit they may be in that which is contrary to his Mind the which in your 8th page you seem to condemn N.C. for as strange Doctrine because he exhorts as you say The Children of God to believe in the Light c. and then you say Are the Children of God still in Vnbelief c. And yet now in your 14th page you seem to admit they