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demonstration_n not_o of_o our_o faith_n as_o catholic_n have_v hitherto_o understand_v it_o but_o as_o now_o change_v quite_o the_o notion_n of_o the_o mystery_n he_o be_v please_v to_o understand_v it_o of_o which_o we_o shall_v see_v more_o hereafter_o sect._n 26._o why_o then_o shall_v we_o wonder_v at_o the_o issue_n of_o this_o brain_n what_o shall_v we_o wonder_v at_o these_o production_n which_o out_o of_o a_o absolute_o erroneous_a method_n be_v hatch_v and_o bring_v to_o light_v it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o a_o most_o exotic_a philosophy_n be_v presuppose_v a_o equal_o or_o more_o exotic_a divinity_n be_v build_v upon_o it_o a_o little_a error_n in_o the_o beginning_n prove_v a_o great_a one_o in_o the_o last_o end_n the_o attempt_n to_o square_a theology_n to_o i_o know_v nor_o what_o pretend_v demonstration_n have_v wrought_v this_o destruction_n nor_o need_v we_o the_o help_n of_o divinity_n our_o own_o experience_n and_o reason_n sufficient_o evince_v and_o discover_v this_o method_n to_o be_v ruinous_a there_o be_v no_o man_n who_o have_v make_v even_o a_o moderate_a progress_n in_o science_n but_o be_v sufficient_o convince_v how_o weak_a how_o feeble_a our_o understanding_n be_v they_o be_v but_o novice_n in_o science_n who_o be_v puff_v into_o a_o vanity_n as_o if_o they_o be_v even_o now_o become_v master_n the_o better_a proficient_n they_o grow_v the_o more_o daily_o and_o hourly_a do_v they_o clear_o discover_v their_o own_o ignorance_n let_v we_o consider_v it_o in_o particular_a there_o be_v no_o knowledge_n so_o certain_a so_o connatural_a to_o our_o undexrstanding_n as_o that_o of_o quantity_n the_o object_n of_o mathematics_n and_o yet_o all_o the_o wit_n of_o man_n that_o ever_o yet_o have_v be_v in_o the_o world_n come_v so_o far_o short_a of_o the_o discovery_n that_o million_o of_o problem_n may_v yet_o be_v propose_v which_o no_o man_n can_v solve_v and_o now_o as_o to_o our_o knowledge_n of_o natural_a body_n it_o be_v far_o 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with_o which_o we_o touch_v and_o taste_v what_o will_v our_o knowledge_n amount_v to_o in_o separate_a substance_n in_o soul_n in_o angel_n in_o god_n himself_o the_o true_a ground_n of_o this_o our_o ignorance_n be_v this_o that_o our_o understanding_n in_o our_o present_a state_n of_o mortality_n be_v only_o natural_o movable_a from_o our_o fancy_n which_o depend_v whole_o on_o the_o weak_a report_n draw_v from_o our_o sense_n we_o have_v not_o in_o this_o state_n without_o revelation_n any_o other_o notion_n but_o such_o as_o be_v abstract_v from_o sensible_a object_n so_o that_o the_o peculiar_a property_n of_o abstract_a substance_n since_o we_o be_v not_o now_o possess_v of_o the_o peculiar_a essential_a notion_n of_o they_o can_v not_o now_o by_o we_o natural_o be_v know_v and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o find_v ourselves_o so_o feeble_a in_o thing_n the_o most_o obvious_a even_o to_o our_o sense_n all_o the_o wise_a man_n of_o the_o world_n have_v ever_o be_v strike_v dumb_a and_o ravish_v in_o the_o consideration_n of_o that_o omnipotent_a hand_n which_o build_v both_o we_o to_o honour_v and_o love_v he_o and_o they_o for_o our_o use_n to_o that_o end_n so_o that_o where_o his_o authority_n be_v engage_v as_o certain_o it_o be_v in_o all_o thing_n that_o apperrain_n to_o faith_n we_o abase_v our_o pry_n proud_a curiosity_n and_o square_v our_o weak_a apprehension_n to_o they_o and_o not_o these_o stupendous_a supernatural_a mystery_n to_o our_o creep_a grovel_a apprehension_n of_o nature_n it_o be_v then_o upon_o this_o mistake_n that_o this_o new_a purgatory_n come_v to_o light_v it_o be_v one_o and_o but_o one_o of_o a_o thousand_o of_o those_o unheard_a of_o production_n this_o new_a philosophical_a theology_n be_v stuff_v with_o i_o can_v give_v my_o reader_n many_o instance_n of_o doctrine_n he_o never_o yet_o not_o indeed_o the_o world_n be_v acquaint_v with_o but_o i_o will_v conclude_v with_o that_o very_a doctrine_n because_o it_o offer_v itself_o as_o near_o ally_v to_o this_o our_o present_a subject_n with_o which_o he_o conclude_v his_o demonstrative_a divinity_n it_o be_v concerning_o the_o damn_a soul_n for_o we_o have_v not_o only_o a_o poetical_a purgatory_n he_o have_v also_o furnish_v we_o with_o a_o most_o romancical_a hell_n and_o who_o can_v but_o smile_v to_o think_v of_o those_o ridiculous_a mimic_n posture_n he_o fancy_v of_o horse-courser_n dancer_n fencer_n bowler_n and_o all_o other_o brutal_n attempt_v now_o in_o hell_n in_o all_o their_o several_a posture_n those_o very_a pleasure_n in_o which_o they_o constitute_v their_o final_a end_n in_o this_o life_n xi_o thus_o then_o of_o those_o soul_n he_o conclude_v their_o misery_n say_v he_o depend_v on_o their_o present_a perverseness_n so_o that_o if_o they_o themselves_o will_v they_o may_v even_o yet_o be_v happy_a out_o of_o the_o force_n and_o series_n of_o nature_n of_o which_o they_o be_v part_n nothing_o better_a to_o wit_v then_o to_o be_v damn_v can_v happpen_v to_o they_o neither_o to_o all_o of_o they_o in_o general_a nor_o to_o any_o one_o of_o they_o in_o particular_a and_o least_o nature_n or_o god_n shall_v escape_v this_o fatal_a doctrine_n he_o add_v and_o even_o nature_n and_o god_n himself_o shall_v have_v be_v worse_o if_o they_o have_v be_v otherwise_o deal_v with_o pagan_a fatality_n out_o of_o the_o force_n and_o series_n of_o nature_n nothing_o better_a can_v happen_v to_o judas_n then_o to_o be_v damn_v and_o if_o he_o have_v not_o be_v so_o god_n have_v cease_v to_o be_v god_n as_o so_o forsooth_o wisdom_n be_v justify_v against_o her_o child_n thus_o he_o conclude_v his_o prodigious_a theology_n sect._n 27._o and_o now_o i_o hope_v my_o reader_n have_v some_o light_n of_o the_o method_n and_o genius_n of_o this_o our_o great_a master_n and_o his_o new_a school_n it_o will_v give_v he_o a_o introduction_n into_o the_o further_a discovery_n of_o
principle_n and_o consequence_n to_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v no_o error_n no_o ignorance_n no_o succession_n in_o separate_a substance_n now_o in_o their_o present_a state_n of_o separation_n how_o inconsequent_a be_v it_o as_o he_o there_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o be_v now_o just_a that_o as_o to_o their_o affection_n which_o this_o state_n of_o union_n with_o their_o body_n and_o mortality_n make_v they_o what_o a_o frivolous_a discourse_n he_o introduce_v argue_v in_o the_o same_o 17_o acc._n as_o a_o embriâ—_z say_v he_o or_o seminal_a mushroom_n delineate_v a_o future_a man_n so_o the_o thought_n and_o affection_n of_o this_o life_n design_n by_o their_o impression_n the_o future_a condition_n of_o the_o soul_n so_o that_o death_n produce_v such_o a_o entity_n as_o from_o the_o man_n so_o dispose_v be_v natural_o producible_a thus_o to_o remain_v till_o resurrection_n for_o this_o have_v no_o connexion_n with_o the_o precedent_a doctrine_n of_o the_o immutability_n of_o soul_n in_o the_o state_n of_o separation_n if_o we_o shall_v suppose_v that_o there_o be_v no_o variety_n in_o they_o no_o succession_n in_o that_o single_a state_n of_o separation_n how_o will_v it_o follow_v there_o be_v no_o change_n of_o affection_n in_o these_o two_o and_o those_o so_o different_a state_n of_o separation_n and_o union_n beside_o sir_n if_o the_o antecedent_n of_o this_o his_o argument_n reach_v home_o to_o his_o purpose_n it_o be_v a_o position_n destructive_a of_o all_o christianity_n if_o this_o embryo_n or_o seminal_a mushroom_n delineate_v the_o future_a man_n if_o the_o soul_n be_v such_o as_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o matter_n exact_v and_o determine_v it_o to_o be_v as_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v at_o the_o first_o infusion_n into_o the_o body_n and_o remain_v so_o or_o else_o he_o tell_v we_o nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n our_o liberty_n be_v destroy_v there_o remain_v no_o hope_n that_o these_o his_o determination_n by_o the_o matter_n or_o body_n shall_v be_v change_v by_o education_n by_o virtue_n shall_v be_v correct_v by_o grace_n since_o then_o this_o his_o doctrine_n be_v absolute_o false_a and_o since_o soul_n in_o truth_n by_o the_o assistance_n of_o divine_a grace_n do_v perfect_o overcome_v even_o whilst_o in_o their_o body_n what_o they_o contract_v or_o be_v determâ—nod_n by_o their_o body_n as_o our_o holy_a faith_n teach_v how_o excellent_o be_v it_o conclude_v that_o soul_n now_o in_o separation_n do_v not_o correct_v what_o be_v in_o they_o by_o the_o commerce_n of_o that_o unworthy_a clay_n which_o before_o enclose_v they_o and_o how_o will_v it_o not_o be_v as_o well_o or_o more_o effectual_o conclude_v that_o soul_n at_o their_o reunion_n too_o pass_v now_o from_o separation_n to_o union_n as_o well_o as_o before_o from_o union_n to_o separation_n carry_v with_o they_o their_o unchangeable_a affection_n and_o so_o never_o get_v out_o of_o his_o purgatory_n neither_o before_o nor_o at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n by_o these_o short_a reflection_n my_o reader_n will_v easy_o observe_v how_o far_o these_o adamantin_a unshakeable_a ground_n fall_v short_a of_o that_o so_o much_o boast_v evidence_n even_o of_o truth_n some_o of_o they_o be_v most_o perfect_a falsehood_n the_o rest_n groundless_a uncertain_a dream_v assertion_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v such_o as_o shall_v serve_v the_o levity_n of_o some_o man_n to_o abandon_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n and_o upon_o these_o shall_v be_v errect_v a_o new_a modled_a purgatory_n as_o upon_o other_o the_o like_a they_o have_v build_v we_o a_o whole_a new_a faithless_a religion_n of_o which_o they_o be_v so_o fond_o enamour_a and_o peremptory_a that_o now_o they_o bold_o pronounce_v the_o hither_o to_o receive_a faith_n of_o the_o church_n proceed_v out_o of_o ignorance_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o separate_a substance_n sect._n 35._o but_o to_o conclude_v my_o adversary_n and_o our_o business_n if_o this_o his_o position_n be_v true_a that_o no_o soul_n be_v deliver_v out_o of_o purgatory_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n what_o serve_v for_o all_o our_o devotion_n prayer_n alm_n offering_n do_v the_o holy_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n which_o the_o church_n have_v define_v to_o be_v propitiatory_a even_o for_o the_o dead_a avail_v those_o distress_a soul_n nothing_o at_o all_o no_o my_o adversary_n dare_v not_o as_o yet_o venture_v upon_o this_o the_o council_n be_v so_o clear_a so_o home_o to_o this_o point_n his_o credit_n be_v ruin_v if_o he_o shall_v attempt_v to_o deny_v it_o his_o new_a purgatory_n then_o must_v be_v furnish_v with_o some_o new_a way_n by_o which_o our_o endeavour_n may_v be_v beneficial_a to_o those_o poor_a soul_n or_o else_o no_o catholic_n ear_n can_v be_v open_a to_o his_o new_a divinity_n be_v it_o perhaps_o the_o intermit_n at_o some_o time_n or_o abate_v of_o the_o fury_n of_o their_o torment_n o_o no_o this_o doctrine_n find_v no_o admission_n in_o his_o school_n his_o indivisible_a duration_n admit_v of_o no_o intermission_n and_o where_o the_o soul_n by_o she_o now_o unchangeable_a affection_n be_v she_o own_o executioner_n no_o alloy_n or_o abatement_n of_o torment_n can_v be_v hope_v for_o till_o reunior_fw-la what_o then_o perhaps_o shall_v our_o prayer_n be_v of_o force_n to_o obtain_v their_o release_n o_o no_o this_o the_o least_o of_o all_o it_o be_v against_o all_o their_o demonstration_n and_o therefore_o be_v reserve_v to_o his_o new_a changeable_a state_n at_o the_o resurrection_n what_o then_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o all_o our_o tear_n and_o prayer_n what_o benefit_n do_v separate_a soul_n receive_v by_o they_o this_o and_o only_o this_o that_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n be_v hasten_v by_o they_o and_o be_v this_o all_o yes_o true_o this_o be_v all_o our_o new_a system_n of_o purgatory_n can_v admit_v of_o as_o to_o the_o assist_n of_o the_o soul_n detain_v in_o it_o but_o what_o if_o this_o accelerate_v the_o 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