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A54154 The invalidity of John Faldo's vindication of his book, called Quakerism no Christianity being a rejoynder in defence of the answer, intituled, Quakerism a new nick-name for old Christianity : wherein many weighty Gospel-truths are handled, and the disingenuous carriage of by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1305; ESTC R24454 254,441 450

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shadow_n vanish_v etc._n etc._n p._n 326._o i_o dare_v not_o offer_v at_o any_o method_n in_o the_o whole_a nor_o at_o any_o connection_n in_o the_o part_n for_o i_o find_v that_o all_o the_o curious_a dichotomzer_n do_v but_o dream_v and_o play_v with_o the_o scripture_n feed_v themselves_o with_o fancy_n and_o not_o truth_n for_o sure_o i_o be_o the_o only_a method_n that_o holy_a man_n of_o old_a observe_v be_v to_o speak_v as_o they_o be_v move_v by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n there_o be_v many_o exposition_n on_o this_o place_n which_o i_o will_v not_o trouble_v you_o withal_o for_o man_n speak_v according_a to_o man_n but_o the_o scripture_n be_v write_v by_o god_n spirit_n dictate_v by_o his_o own_o finger_n we_o must_v therefore_o labour_v to_o find_v out_o what_o be_v god_n mind_n in_o the_o scripture_n whatever_o man_n say_v pag._n 369._o 370._o chap._n v._n of_o true_a and_o false_a prayer_n he_o pretend_v in_o this_o chapter_n which_o contain_v not_o a_o page_n to_o refute_v 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place_n be_v in_o the_o second_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n chap._n 5._o 21._o for_o he_o have_v make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o who_o know_v no_o sin_n that_o be_v he_o be_v make_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o remit_v or_o pass_v over_o of_o the_o sin_n that_o be_v pass_v for_o such_o as_o repent_v and_o believe_v that_o they_o may_v be_v make_v the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n or_o rather_o account_v righteous_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n as_o if_o they_o have_v never_o commit_v sin_n by_o not_o impute_v or_o forgive_n the_o sin_n that_o be_v pass_v this_o sense_n the_o two_o foregoing_a verse_n confirm_v to_o wit_n that_o god_n be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_n the_o world_n unto_o himself_o not_o impute_v their_o trespass_n unto_o they_o and_o have_v commit_v unto_o they_o the_o word_n of_o of_o reconciliation_n now_o than_o we_o be_v ambassador_n for_o christ_n as_o though_o god_n do_v beseeeh_a you_o through_o we_o we_o pray_v you_o in_o christ_n stead_n that_o you_o will_v be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n verse_n 19_o 20._o agree_v with_o rom._n 3._o 25._o who_o god_n have_v set_v forth_o to_o be_v a_o propitiation_n through_o faith_n in_o his_o blood_n to_o declare_v his_o righteousness_n for_o the_o remission_n or_o pass_v over_o of_o sin_n that_o be_v past_a through_o the_o forbearance_n of_o god_n which_o be_v neither_o a_o rigid_a satisfaction_n for_o nor_o a_o justification_n from_o sin_n that_o be_v past_a present_a and_o to_o come_v as_o a_o late_a shallow_a writer_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o hartford_n self-confuting_a pamphlet_n idle_o and_o false_o call_v the_o quaker_n convert_v will_v have_v we_o believe_v but_o a_o acquit_v from_o or_o remit_v of_o past_a sin_n upon_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n which_o make_v up_o that_o only_a imputative_a righteousness_n that_o the_o scripture_n hold_v forth_o or_o we_o can_v allow_v of_o the_o scripture_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o doctrine_n which_o make_v up_o complete_a justification_n be_v such_o as_o these_o keep_v thou_o far_o from_o a_o false_a matter_n &_o the_o innocent_a &_o righteous_a slay_v thou_o not_o for_o i_o will_v not_o justify_v the_o wicked_a exod._n 23._o i._o lord_n who_o shall_v abide_v in_o thy_o tabernacle_n who_o shall_v dwell_v in_o thy_o holy_a hill_n he_o that_o walk_v upright_o and_o work_v righteousness_n and_o speak_v the_o truth_n in_o his_o heart_n psalm_n 15._o 1_o 2._o when_o a_o righteous_a man_n turn_v away_o from_o his_o righteousness_n for_o his_o iniquity_n that_o he_o have_v do_v shall_v he_o die_v again_o when_o the_o wicked_a man_n turn_v away_o from_o his_o wickedness_n and_o do_v that_o which_o be_v lawful_a or_o right_o he_o shall_v save_v his_o soul_n ezek._n 18._o 26_o 27._o not_o every_o one_o that_o say_v unto_o i_o lord_n lord_n shall_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o he_o that_o do_v the_o will_n of_o my_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n math._n 7._o 21._o unless_o 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nay_o the_o evangelist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v so_o much_o as_o to_o mention_v any_o thing_n of_o his_o manifestation_n in_o flesh_n and_o if_o we_o will_v believe_v j._n faldo_n the_o verse_n concern_v the_o word_n creator_n and_o not_o redeemer_n which_o he_o stint_v to_o his_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n see_v pag._n 89._o but_o by_o his_o interpretation_n that_o be_v not_o relative_a to_o his_o appearance_n in_o the_o flesh_n but_o to_o the_o word_n which_o be_v with_o god_n and_o be_v god_n as_o p._n 84._o and_o so_o the_o spanish_a translation_n have_v it_o that_o word_n be_v the_o true_a light_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o either_o the_o word_n be_v not_o before_o that_o appearance_n or_o if_o it_o be_v be_v that_o true_a light_n that_o true_a light_n be_v before_o that_o appearance_n therefore_o mankind_n may_v very_o well_o be_v say_v to_o have_v always_o be_v enlighten_v by_o that_o light_n or_o that_o the_o word_n shall_v be_v before_o that_o appearance_n and_o that_o true_a 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his_o paragraph_n i_o will_v contract_v my_o answer_n and_o give_v his_o reply_n he_o make_v the_o word_n to_o be_v the_o write_a law_n statute_n and_o commandment_n give_v by_o moses_n his_o first_o book_n p._n 94._o i_o answer_v it_o can_v not_o be_v so_o understand_v for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o about_o they_o but_o about_o the_o commandment_n of_o commandment_n and_o word_n of_o word_n which_o he_o resolve_v thus_o let_v none_o say_v who_o shall_v ascend_v descend_v or_o go_v beyond_o the_o sea_n to_o fetch_v the_o great_a word_n and_o conmandment_n but_o the_o word_n be_v very_o nigh_o thou_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v the_o innermost_a part_n of_o man_n whereinto_o the_o outward_a commandment_n can_v never_o come_v beside_o without_o the_o word_n nigh_o in_o the_o heart_n there_o can_v be_v no_o conviction_n upon_o the_o conscience_n etc._n etc._n reply_v p._n 82_o 83._o w._n p._n pu●s_v to_o fetch_v the_o great_a word_n and_o 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