Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	ghost_n	holy_a	scripture_n	5,819	5	6.0509	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A00430	Catholique traditions. Or A treatise of the beliefe of the Christians of Asia, Europa, and Africa, in the principall controuersies of our time In fauour of the louers of the catholicke trueth, and the peace of the Church. Written in French by Th. A.I.C. and translated into English, by L.O.; Tradition catholique. English	Eudes, Morton.; Owen, Lewis, 1572-1633.	1609 (1609)	STC 10561; ESTC S101746	137,760	254

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question_n xvii_o whether_o the_o pope_n or_o any_o other_o can_v give_v indulgence_n or_o pardon_n to_o deliver_v man_n from_o temporal_a punishment_n the_o east_n church_n ieremie_n patriarch_n gener._n resp_n all_o these_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v free_o for_o god_n cause_n and_o not_o for_o any_o hope_n of_o gain_n consider_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o agreeable_a to_o god_n than_o that_o sacranus_fw-la 2_o the_o moscovite_n do_v condemn_v order_n blessing_n priesthood_n prayer_n fast_n indulgence_n jubile_n and_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o all_o that_o which_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o rome_n do_v dispense_v with_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o key_n in_o like_a manner_n they_o mock_v at_o the_o obedience_n and_o authority_n ecclesiastical_a and_o yield_v no_o more_o to_o excommunication_n then_o to_o indulgence_n the_o church_n of_o the_o