Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sense_n	father_n	son_n	word_n	4,740	5	4.9419	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65863	The divinity of Christ and unity of the three that bear record in heaven with the blessed end and effects of Christ's appearance, coming in the flesh, suffering and sacrifice for sinners, confessed and vindicated, by his followers, called Quakers : and the principal matters in controversie, between them, and their present opposers (as Presbyterians, Independants, &c.) considered and resolved, according to the scriptures of truth, and more particularly to remove the aspersions ... cast upon the ... Quakers ... in several books, written by Tho. Vincent, Will. Madox, their railing book, stil'd The foundation, &c, Tho. Danson, his Synopsis, John Owen, his Declaration / which are here examin'd and compared by G.W. ... ; as also, a short review of several passages of Edward Stillingfleet's ... in his discourse of the sufferings of Christ's and sermon preached before the King, wherein he flatly contradicts the said opposers.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1669 (1669)	Wing W1925; ESTC R19836	166,703	202

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holye_n signify_v three_o person_n the_o other_o viz._n j.o._n say_v they_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o son_n who_o be_v but_o one._n this_o doctor_n owen_n shall_v correct_v his_o brother_n vincent_n t.u._n the_o son_n be_v eternal_a this_o generation_n must_v be_v eternal_a the_o personal_a property_n of_o the_o son_n be_v to_o be_v beget_v pag._n 36._o contr._n t._n v._o they_o be_v three_o distinct_a person_n from_o their_o distinct_a personal_a act_n contradiction_n again_o infiniteness_n be_v not_o applicable_a to_o the_o three_o distinct_a personallity_n pag._n 45._o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v god_n be_v infinite_a in_o power_n in_o wisdom_n and_o goodness_n and_o eternal_a pag._n 30._o obs._n here_o manifest_a contradiction_n to_o himself_o show_v itself_o as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v that_o either_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v eternal_a and_o yet_o not_o infinite_a or_o else_o that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v eternal_a be_v not_o a_o person_n distinct_a from_o god_n if_o a_o person_n be_v not_o infinite_a but_o yet_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v infinite_a in_o power_n wisdom_n goodness_n etc._n etc._n how_o ever_o these_o can_v be_v reconcile_v i_o leave_v to_o the_o ingenious_a to_o judge_v t._n v._o the_o father_n word_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v three_o subsistence_n pag._n 13.43_o not_o three_o substance_n pag._n 13._o they_o be_v three_o distinct_a subsistent_n pag._n 27._o a_o person_n be_v one_o individual_a subsistent_n rather_o t.d._n pag._n 2._o obs._n here_o they_o be_v now_o put_v to_o it_o what_o to_o call_v they_o be_v not_o three_o substance_n as_o t._n v._o say_v they_o call_v they_o three_o subsistence_n but_o now_o it_o must_v be_v subsistent_n rather_o but_o then_o in_o contradiction_n to_o both_o doctor_n owen_n say_v contradict_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v a_o substance_n a_o personal_a subsistence_n what_o differ_v now_o between_o substance_n and_o subsistence_n t._n d._n what_o the_o scripture_n have_v reveal_v to_o we_o concern_v that_o distinction_n in_o the_o godhead_n can_v be_v apprehend_v under_o any_o other_o notion_n or_o resemblance_n which_o therefore_o we_o attribute_v to_o god_n pag._n 3._o we_o know_v not_o what_o to_o call_v those_o three_o but_o person_n contr._n t.d._n of_o the_o father_n word_n and_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n from_o 1_o joh._n 1.7_o now_o all_o witness_n proper_o so_o call_v be_v person_n pag._n 5._o then_o these_o witness_n must_v needs_o be_v distinct_a pag._n 7._o obs._n why_o be_v not_o that_o scripture_n produce_v all_o this_o while_n if_o there_o be_v such_o as_o reveal_v your_o distinction_n and_o notion_n of_o person_n in_o god_n and_o why_o do_v you_o not_o know_v what_o to_o call_v those_o three_o in_o heaven_n but_o person_n when_o t.d._n know_v how_o to_o call_v they_o witness_n what_o ignorance_n and_o contradiction_n be_v here_o t._n v._o from_o matth._n 3.16_o 17._o herein_o be_v a_o distinction_n of_o all_o the_o three_o person_n the_o son_n clothe_v in_o flesh_n the_o spirit_n in_o the_o shape_n of_o a_o dove_n the_o father_n in_o the_o voice_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 34._o contr._n w.m._n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a nature_n be_v three_o person_n coessential_a coequal_a coeternal_a pag._n 29._o contr._n t.u._n the_o son_n be_v eternal_a his_o generation_n must_v be_v eternal_a the_o personal_a property_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o proceed_v from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n pag._n 36._o obs._n quest._n but_o be_v christ_n be_v clothe_v with_o flesh_n or_o the_o spirit_n appear_v in_o the_o shape_n of_o a_o dove_n or_o be_v send_v from_o eternity_n be_v these_o pertinent_a proof_n of_o their_o distinct_a personality_n which_o be_v reckon_v coeternal_a etc._n etc._n and_o whither_o or_o to_o who_o be_v the_o spirit_n send_v from_o eternity_n t.u._n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n which_o w.p._n do_v deny_v pag._n 32._o his_o denial_n of_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n be_v plain_a pag._n 28._o contr._n t.u._n the_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n be_v not_o deny_v by_o the_o adversary_n i_o have_v to_o do_v withal_o pag._n 28._o obs._n so_o here_o the_o same_o person_n that_o be_v accuse_v for_o deny_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o these_o latter_a word_n clear_v as_o not_o deny_v that_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n and_o to_o be_v sure_a he_o do_v confess_v the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o the_o spirit_n to_o be_v one_o be_v one_o divine_a substance_n and_o so_o one_o god_n t._n v._o the_o son_n be_v god_n coessential_a coequal_a coeternal_a with_o the_o father_n christ_n be_v infinite_a in_o power_n wisdom_n and_o goodness_n eternal_a pag._n 29_o 30._o t._n v._o in_o regard_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n the_o jew_n speak_v truth_n joh._n 8.57_o thou_o be_v not_o yet_o fifty_o year_n old_a as_o he_o be_v a_o son_n of_o abraham_n and_o bear_v many_o generation_n after_o he_o pag._n 31._o obs._n quest._n and_o be_v not_o he_o a_o person_n as_o he_o be_v a_o son_n 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