my_o point_n pr._n i_o leave_v you_o to_o try_v your_o skill_n upon_o they_o the_o first_o shall_v be_v from_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n incarnation_n and_o i_o hope_v this_o will_v not_o hold_v against_o the_o trinity_n and_o those_o argument_n which_o they_o bring_v to_o prove_v christ_n incarnate_a do_v overthrow_n transubstantiation_n effectual_o so_o that_o either_o we_o must_v make_v the_o father_n to_o reason_n very_o ill_o against_o heretic_n or_o if_o their_o argument_n be_v good_a it_o be_v impossible_a they_o shall_v believe_v transubstantiation_n for_o can_v you_o suppose_v that_o any_o can_v believe_v it_o who_o shall_v not_o bare_o assert_v but_o make_v the_o force_n of_o a_o argument_n to_o lie_v in_o this_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n do_v not_o remain_v after_o consecration_n and_o this_o i_o now_o prove_v not_o from_o any_o slight_a inconsiderable_a author_n but_o from_o some_o of_o the_o great_a man_n in_o the_o church_n in_o their_o time_n i_o begin_v with_o st._n chrysostom_n who_o epistle_n to_o coesarius_n be_v at_o last_o bring_v to_o light_n by_o a_o learned_a person_n of_o the_o roman_a communion_n who_o make_v no_o question_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o it_o and_o faith_n the_o latin_a translation_n which_o only_o he_o can_v find_v entire_a be_v about_o five_o hundred_o year_n old_a but_o he_o have_v so_o confirm_v it_o by_o the_o greek_a fragment_n of_o it_o quote_v by_o ancient_a greek_a author_n that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o suspicion_n leave_v concern_v it_o p._n what_o mean_v all_o this_o ado_n before_o you_o come_v to_o the_o point_n pr._n because_o this_o epistle_n have_v be_v former_o so_o confident_o deny_v to_o be_v st._n chrysostom_n and_o such_o care_n be_v late_o take_v to_o suppress_v it_o p._n but_o what_o will_v you_o do_v with_o it_o now_o you_o have_v it_o pr._n i_o will_v tell_v you_o present_o this_o epistle_n be_v write_v by_o he_o for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o caesarius_n a_o monk_n who_o be_v in_o danger_n of_o be_v seduce_v by_o the_o apollinarist_n p._n what_o have_v we_o to_o do_v with_o the_o apollinarist_n do_v you_o think_v all_o hard_a word_n be_v akin_a and_o so_o the_o affinity_n rise_v between_o apollinarist_n and_o transubstantiation_n pr._n you_o shall_v find_v it_o come_v near_o the_o matter_n than_o you_o imagine_v for_o those_o heretic_n deny_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o human_a nature_n of_o christ_n after_o the_o union_n and_o say_v that_o the_o property_n of_o it_o do_v then_o belong_v to_o the_o divine_a nature_n as_o appear_v by_o that_o very_a epistle_n p._n and_o what_o of_o all_o this_o do_v we_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n human_a nature_n pr._n no_o but_o i_o pray_v observe_v the_o force_n of_o his_o parallel_n he_o be_v prove_v that_o each_o nature_n in_o christ_n contain_v its_o property_n for_o say_v he_o as_o fecerunt_fw-la before_o consecration_n we_o call_v it_o bread_n but_o after_o it_o by_o divine_a grace_n sanctify_v it_o through_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o priest_n it_o be_v no_o long_o call_v bread_n but_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n although_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v in_o it_o and_o it_o do_v not_o become_v two_o body_n but_o one_o body_n of_o christ_n so_o here_o the_o divine_a nature_n be_v join_v to_o the_o human_a they_o both_o make_v one_o son_n and_o one_o person_n p._n and_o what_o do_v you_o infer_v from_o hence_o pr._n nothing_o more_o but_o that_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n do_v as_o certain_o remain_v after_o consecration_n as_o the_o nature_n of_o christ_n do_v after_o the_o union_n p._n hold_v a_o little_a for_o the_o author_n of_o the_o single_a sheet_n say_v that_o the_o father_n by_o nature_n and_o substance_n do_v often_o 23._o mean_v no_o more_o than_o the_o natural_a quality_n or_o visible_a appearance_n of_o thing_n and_o why_o may_v not_o st._n chrysostom_n mean_v so_o here_o pr._n i_o say_v it_o be_v impossible_a he_o shall_v for_o all_o the_o dispute_n be_v about_o the_o substance_n and_o not_o about_o the_o quality_n as_o appear_v by_o that_o very_a epistle_n for_o those_o heretic_n grant_v that_o christ_n have_v all_o the_o property_n of_o a_o body_n leave_v still_o they_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o christ_n can_v suffer_v but_o they_o say_v the_o property_n of_o a_o body_n after_o the_o union_n belong_v to_o the_o divine_a nature_n the_o human_a nature_n be_v swallow_v up_o by_o the_o union_n and_o therefore_o st._n chrysostom_n by_o nature_n must_v understand_v substance_n and_o not_o quality_n or_o else_o he_o do_v by_o no_o mean_n prove_v that_o which_o he_o aim_v at_o so_o that_o st._n chrysostom_n do_v manifest_o assert_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v after_o consecration_n p._n but_o do_v not_o st._n chrysostom_n suppose_v then_o that_o upon_o consecration_n the_o bread_n be_v unite_v to_o the_o divinity_n as_o the_o human_a nature_n be_v to_o the_o divine_a else_o what_o parallel_n can_v he_o make_v pr._n i_o will_v deal_v free_o with_o you_o by_o declare_v that_o not_o st._n chrysostom_n only_o but_o many_o other_o of_o the_o father_n do_v own_o the_o bread_n after_o consecration_n to_o be_v make_v the_o real_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o not_o in_o your_o sense_n by_o change_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n into_o that_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n but_o by_o a_o mystical_a union_n cause_v by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n whereby_o the_o bread_n become_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o that_o be_v which_o be_v conceive_v in_o the_o womb_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin._n but_o this_o be_v quite_o another_o thing_n from_o transubstantiation_n and_o the_o church_n of_o england_n own_v that_o after_o consecration_n the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n p._n but_o although_o this_o be_v not_o transubstantiation_n it_o may_v be_v something_o as_o hard_a to_o believe_v or_o understand_v pr._n by_o no_o mean_n for_o all_o the_o difficulty_n relate_v to_o the_o take_v away_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o property_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v remove_v by_o this_o hypothesis_n p._n let_v we_o then_o keep_v to_o our_o point_n but_o methinks_v this_o be_v but_o a_o slender_a appearance_n yet_o st._n chrysostom_n stand_v alone_o for_o all_o that_o i_o see_v pr._n have_v but_o a_o little_a patience_n and_o you_o shall_v see_v more_o of_o his_o mind_n present_o but_o i_o must_v first_o tell_v you_o that_o the_o eutychian_o afterward_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n for_o follow_v this_o doctrine_n of_o apollinaris_n and_o 5._o that_o council_n define_v that_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o two_o nature_n in_o christ_n be_v not_o destroy_v by_o the_o union_n but_o that_o their_o property_n be_v preserve_v distinct_a and_o concur_v to_o one_o person_n and_o against_o these_o the_o other_o father_n dispute_v just_a as_o st._n chrysostom_n have_v do_v before_o against_o the_o apollinarist_n theodoret_n bring_v the_o same_o instance_n and_o he_o affirm_v express_o that_o the_o nature_n 2._o of_o the_o element_n be_v not_o change_v that_o they_o do_v not_o lose_v their_o proper_a nature_n but_o remain_v in_o their_o former_a substance_n figure_n and_o form_n and_o may_v be_v see_v and_o touch_v as_o before_o still_o this_o be_v not_o to_o prove_v any_o accidental_a quality_n but_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o remain_v p._n but_o be_v not_o theodoret_n a_o man_n of_o suspect_a faith_n in_o â—he_n church_n and_o therefore_o no_o great_a matter_n can_v be_v make_v of_o his_o testimony_n pr._n yield_v it_o then_o to_o we_o and_o see_v if_o we_o do_v not_o clear_a theodoret_n but_o your_o own_o learned_a man_n never_o question_v he_o as_o to_o this_o matter_n at_o least_o and_o the_o ancient_a church_n have_v vindicate_v his_o reputation_n and_o he_o say_v no_o more_o than_o st._n chrysostom_n before_o he_o and_o other_o of_o great_a esteem_n â—fter_o he_o p._n who_o be_v they_o pr._n what_o say_v you_o to_o a_o pope_n who_o you_o account_v head_n of_o the_o church_n pope_n gelasius_n write_v against_o the_o same_o heretic_n produce_v the_o same_o example_n and_o he_o express_o say_v the_o substance_n 4._o of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v not_o cease_v p._n i_o think_v i_o shall_v find_v you_o trip_v here_o you_o put_v a_o fob-head_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o we_o for_o the_o author_n of_o the_o single_a sheet_n say_v this_o be_v another_o gelasius_n as_o be_v prove_v 20._o at_o large_a by_o bellarmin_n pr._n in_o truth_n i_o be_o ashamed_a of_o the_o ignorance_n of_o such_o small_a author_n who_o will_v be_v meddle_v with_o thing_n they_o understand_v not_o for_o this_o writer_n since_o bellarmin_n time_n have_v be_v evident_o prove_v from_o testimony_n of_o
more_o be_v without_o a_o subject_a than_o water_n without_o 14._o moisture_n or_o fire_n without_o heat_n or_o a_o stone_n without_o hardness_n which_o be_v so_o join_v together_o that_o they_o can_v be_v separate_v methodius_n confute_v origen_n fancy_n about_o the_o soul_n have_v 234._o the_o shape_n of_o a_o body_n without_o the_o substance_n because_o the_o shape_n and_o the_o body_n can_v be_v separate_v from_o each_o other_o st._n augustin_n prove_v the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n from_o hence_o because_o mere_a accident_n can_v never_o be_v separate_v from_o 13._o the_o body_n so_o as_o the_o mind_n be_v by_o abstraction_n and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v a_o monstrous_a absurd_a doctrine_n to_o suppose_v that_o who_o nature_n be_v to_o be_v in_o a_o subject_a to_o be_v capable_a of_o subsist_v without_o it_o claudianus_n mamertus_n prove_v that_o the_o soul_n can_v not_o be_v in_o 3._o the_o body_n as_o its_o subject_a for_o than_o it_o can_v not_o subsist_v when_o the_o body_n be_v destroy_v p._n i_o hope_v you_o have_v now_o do_v with_o this_o three_o argument_n pr._n yes_o and_o i_o shall_v wait_v your_o own_o time_n for_o a_o answer_n i_o go_v on_o to_o a_o four_o and_o that_o be_v from_o the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n assert_v and_o allow_v by_o the_o father_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n p._n i_o expect_v this_o before_o now_o for_o as_o the_o author_n of_o the_o single_a sheet_n observe_v this_o be_v the_o cock-argument_n of_o one_o of_o the_o light_n of_o your_o church_n and_o it_o so_o far_o resemble_v the_o light_n that_o like_o it_o it_o make_v a_o glare_a show_n but_o go_v to_o grasp_v it_o and_o you_o find_v nothing_o in_o your_o hand_n pr._n then_o it_o be_v plain_a our_o sense_n be_v deceive_v p._n not_o as_o to_o transubstantiation_n for_o he_o believe_v more_o of_o his_o sense_n than_o we_o do_v for_o his_o eye_n tell_v he_o there_o be_v the_o colour_n of_o bread_n and_o he_o assent_v to_o they_o his_o tongue_n that_o it_o have_v the_o taste_n of_o bread_n and_o he_o agree_v to_o it_o and_o so_o for_o his_o smell_a and_o feel_v but_o then_o he_o have_v a_o notable_a fetch_n in_o his_o conclusion_n viz._n that_o his_o ear_n tell_v he_o from_o the_o word_n speak_v by_o christ_n himself_o that_o it_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o he_o believe_v these_o too_o be_v not_o here_o one_o sense_n more_o than_o you_o believe_v and_o yet_o you_o will_v persuade_v the_o world_n that_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v our_o sense_n pr._n this_o be_v admirable_a stuff_n but_o it_o must_v be_v tender_o deal_v with_o for_o i_o pray_v what_o do_v he_o mean_v when_o he_o say_v he_o believe_v from_o christ_n own_o word_n that_o it_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n what_o be_v this_o it_o be_v it_o the_o accident_n he_o speak_v of_o before_o be_v those_o accident_n than_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v it_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n but_o that_o be_v not_o discern_v by_o the_o sense_n he_o say_v and_o if_o it_o be_v will_v he_o say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n if_o neither_o of_o these_o than_o his_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n signify_v nothing_o for_o there_o can_v be_v no_o sense_n of_o it_o p._n however_o he_o show_v that_o we_o who_o believe_v transubstantiation_n do_v not_o renounce_v our_o sense_n as_o you_o common_o reproach_v we_o for_o we_o believe_v all_o that_o our_o sense_n represent_v to_o we_o which_o be_v only_o the_o outward_a appearance_n for_o as_o he_o well_o observe_v if_o your_o eye_n see_v the_o substance_n of_o thing_n they_o be_v most_o extraordinary_a one_o and_o better_a than_o we_o for_o our_o part_n we_o see_v no_o far_o than_o the_o colour_n or_o figure_n etc._n etc._n of_o thing_n which_o be_v only_a accident_n and_o the_o entire_a object_n of_o that_o sense_n pr._n be_v there_o no_o difference_n between_o the_o perception_n of_o sense_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n we_o grant_v that_o the_o perception_n of_o our_o sense_n go_v no_o far_a than_o to_o the_o outward_a accident_n but_o that_o perception_n afford_v such_o a_o evidence_n by_o which_o the_o mind_n do_v pass_v judgement_n upon_o the_o thing_n represent_v by_o the_o outward_a sense_n i_o pray_v tell_v i_o have_v you_o any_o certainty_n there_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o a_o material_a substance_n in_o the_o world_n p._n yes_o pr._n whence_o come_v the_o certainty_n of_o the_o substance_n since_o your_o sense_n can_v discover_v it_o do_v we_o live_v among_o nothing_o but_o accident_n or_o can_v we_o know_v nothing_o beyond_o they_o p._n i_o grant_v we_o may_v know_v in_o general_a that_o there_o be_v such_o thing_n as_o substance_n in_o the_o world._n pr._n but_o can_v we_o not_o know_v the_o difference_n of_o one_o substance_n from_o another_o by_o our_o sense_n as_o for_o instance_n can_v we_o not_o know_v a_o man_n from_o a_o horse_n or_o a_o elephant_n from_o a_o mouse_n or_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n from_o a_o church_n or_o do_v we_o only_o know_v there_o be_v such_o and_o such_o accident_n belong_v to_o every_o one_o of_o these_o but_o our_o sense_n be_v not_o so_o extraprdinary_a to_o discover_v the_o substance_n under_o they_o i_o pray_v answer_v i_o one_o question_v do_v you_o ever_o keep_v lend_v p._n what_o a_o strange_a question_n be_v this_o do_v you_o not_o tell_v i_o you_o will_v avoid_v impertinency_n pr._n this_o be_v none_o i_o assure_v you_o p._n then_o i_o answer_v i_o think_v myself_o oblige_v to_o keep_v it_o pr._n then_o you_o think_v yourself_o bind_v to_o abstain_v from_o flesh_n and_o to_o eat_v fish._n p._n what_o of_o all_o that_o pr._n be_v it_o the_o substance_n of_o flesh_n you_o abstain_v from_o or_o only_o the_o accident_n of_o it_o p._n the_o substance_n pr._n and_o do_v you_o know_v the_o difference_n between_o the_o substance_n of_o flesh_n and_o fish_n by_o your_o taste_n p._n yes_o pr._n then_o you_o have_v a_o extraordinary_a taste_n which_o go_v to_o the_o very_a substance_n p._n but_o this_o be_v off_o from_o our_o business_n which_o be_v about_o the_o father_n and_o not_o our_o own_o judgement_n about_o the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n pr._n i_o be_o ready_a for_o you_o upon_o that_o argument_n and_o i_o only_o desire_v to_o know_v whether_o you_o think_v the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n sufficient_a as_o to_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n where_o it_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v present_a p._n by_o no_o mean_n for_o than_o we_o can_v not_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v present_a where_o we_o can_v perceive_v it_o pr._n but_o the_o father_n do_v assert_v the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n to_o be_v sufficient_a as_o to_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n so_o irenoeus_n 238._o tertullian_n epiphanius_n hilary_n and_o st._n augustin_n i_o will_v produce_v their_o word_n at_o length_n if_o you_o desire_v they_o p._n it_o will_v be_v but_o lose_v labour_n since_o we_o deny_v not_o as_o cardinal_z bellarmin_n well_o say_v the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n to_o be_v a_o good_a positive_a evidence_n but_o not_o a_o negative_a i._n e._n that_o it_o be_v a_o 14._o body_n which_o be_v handle_v and_o feel_v and_o see_v but_o not_o that_o it_o be_v no_o body_n which_o be_v not_o pr._n very_o well_o and_o i_o pray_v then_o what_o become_v of_o your_o single_a sheet_n man_n who_o so_o confident_o deny_v sense_n to_o be_v good_a positive_a evidence_n as_o to_o a_o real_a body_n but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o outward_a appearance_n p._n you_o mistake_v he_o for_o he_o say_v we_o be_v to_o believe_v our_o sense_n where_o they_o be_v not_o indispose_v and_o no_o divine_a revelation_n intervene_v which_o we_o believe_v there_o do_v in_o this_o case_n and_o therefore_o unless_o the_o father_n speak_v of_o the_o sacrament_n we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o regard_v their_o testimony_n in_o this_o matter_n but_o we_o have_v strong_a evidence_n against_o you_o from_o the_o father_n for_o they_o say_v we_o be_v not_o to_o rely_v on_o the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n as_o to_o the_o sacrament_n so_o st._n cyril_n st._n chrysostom_n and_o st._n ambrose_n pr._n i_o be_o glad_a you_o offer_v any_o thing_n which_o deserve_v to_o be_v consider_v but_o have_v you_o already_o forget_v bellarmin_n rule_n that_o sense_n may_v be_v a_o good_a positive_a evidence_n but_o not_o a_o negative_a i._n e._n it_o may_v discover_v what_o be_v present_a as_o a_o body_n but_o not_o what_o be_v not_o and_o can_v be_v so_o present_a viz._n the_o invisible_a grace_n which_o go_v along_o with_o it_o and_o as_o to_o this_o the_o father_n may_v well_o say_v we_o be_v not_o to_o trust_v our_o sense_n p._n this_o be_v make_v a_o
interpretation_n for_o they_o pr._n no_o such_o matter_n it_o be_v the_o proper_a and_o genuine_a sense_n of_o their_o word_n as_o will_v appear_v from_o hence_o 1._o they_o assert_v the_o very_a same_o as_o to_o the_o chrism_n and_o baptism_n which_o they_o do_v as_o to_o the_o eucharist_n 9_o 2._o that_o which_o they_o say_v our_o sense_n can_v reach_v be_v something_o of_o a_o spiritual_a nature_n and_o not_o a_o body_n and_o here_o the_o case_n be_v extreme_o different_a from_o the_o judgement_n of_o sense_n as_o to_o a_o material_a substance_n and_o if_o you_o please_v i_o will_v evident_o prove_v from_o the_o father_n that_o that_o wherein_o they_o exclude_v the_o judgement_n of_o sense_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v something_o whole_o spiritual_a and_o immaterial_a p._n no_o no_o we_o have_v be_v long_o enough_o upon_o the_o father_n unless_o their_o evidence_n be_v more_o certain_a one_o way_n or_o other_o for_o my_o part_n i_o believe_v on_o the_o account_n of_o divine_a revelation_n in_o this_o matter_n this_o be_v my_o body_n here_o i_o stick_v and_o the_o father_n agree_v with_o we_o herein_o that_o christ_n word_n be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v in_o a_o figurative_a sense_n pr._n the_o contrary_n have_v be_v so_o plain_o prove_v in_o a_o late_a excellent_a discourse_n of_o transubstantiation_n that_o i_o wonder_v none_o of_o your_o party_n have_v yet_o undertake_v to_o answer_v it_o but_o they_o write_v on_o as_o if_o no_o such_o treatise_n have_v appear_v i_o shall_v therefore_o wave_v all_o the_o proof_n that_o be_v there_o produce_v till_o some_o tolerable_a answer_n be_v give_v to_o they_o p._n methinks_v you_o have_v take_v a_o great_a liberty_n of_o talk_v about_o the_o father_n as_o though_o they_o be_v all_o on_o your_o side_n but_o our_o late_a author_n assure_v we_o to_o the_o contrary_a and_o i_o hope_v i_o may_v now_o make_v use_n of_o they_o to_o show_v that_o transubstantiation_n be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n pr._n with_o all_o my_o heart_n i_o even_o long_o to_o hear_v what_o they_o can_v say_v in_o a_o matter_n i_o think_v so_o clear_a on_o our_o side_n p._n well_o sir_n i_o begin_v with_o the_o consensus_fw-la veterum_fw-la write_v by_o one_o that_o profess_v himself_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n pr._n make_v what_o you_o can_v of_o he_o now_o you_o have_v he_o but_o i_o will_v meddle_v with_o no_o personal_a thing_n i_o desire_v to_o hear_v his_o argument_n p._n what_o say_v you_o to_o r._n selomo_n interpret_n the_o 72._o psal._n v._n 16._o of_o wafer_n in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o messiah_n to_o r._n moses_n 23._o haddarsan_n on_o gen._n 39_o 1._o and_o on_o psal._n 136._o 25_o to_o r._n cahana_n on_o gen._n 49._o 1._o who_o be_v long_o before_o the_o nativity_n of_o christ_n r._n johai_n on_o numb_a 28._o 2._o and_o to_o r._n judas_n who_o be_v many_o year_n before_o christ_n come_v pr._n can_v you_o hold_v your_o countenance_n when_o you_o repeat_v these_o thing_n but_o any_o thing_n must_v pass_v from_o a_o new_a convert_n what_o think_v you_o of_o r._n cahana_n and_o r._n judas_n who_o live_v so_o long_o before_o our_o saviour_n when_o we_o know_v that_o the_o jew_n have_v no_o write_n preserve_v near_o to_o our_o saviour_n time_n beside_o the_o bible_n and_o some_o say_v the_o paraphrast_n upon_o it_o i_o will_v have_v be_v glad_a to_o have_v see_v these_o testimony_n take_v from_o their_o original_a author_n and_o not_o from_o galatinus_n who_o be_v know_v to_o have_v be_v a_o notorious_a plagiary_n as_o to_o the_o main_a of_o his_o book_n and_o of_o little_a or_o no_o credit_n as_o to_o the_o rest_n but_o it_o be_v ridieulous_a to_o produce_v the_o testimony_n of_o jewish_a rabbin_n for_o transubstantiation_n when_o it_o be_v so_o well_o know_v that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o their_o great_a objection_n against_o christianity_n as_o teach_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o joseph_n albo_n and_o other_o but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o christian_a father_n p._n will_v not_o you_o let_v a_o man_n show_v a_o little_a jewish_a learning_n upon_o occasion_n but_o if_o you_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o the_o father_n you_o shall_v have_v enough_o of_o they_o for_o i_o have_v a_o large_a catalogue_n of_o they_o to_o produce_v from_o the_o consensus_fw-la veterum_fw-la nubes_fw-la testium_fw-la and_o the_o single_a sheet_n which_o general_o agree_v pr._n with_o coccius_n or_o bellarmin_n you_o mean_v but_o before_o you_o produce_v they_o i_o pray_v tell_v i_o what_o you_o intend_v to_o prove_v by_o they_o p._n the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n pr._n as_o to_o what_o p._n what_o have_v we_o be_v about_o all_o this_o while_n pr._n transubstantiation_n will_v you_o prove_v that_o p._n why_o do_v you_o suspect_v i_o before_o i_o begin_v pr._n i_o have_v some_o reason_n for_o it_o let_v we_o first_o agree_v what_o we_o mean_v by_o it_o do_v you_o mean_v the_o same_o which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v by_o it_o in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n p._n what_o can_v we_o mean_v else_o pr._n let_v we_o first_o see_v what_o that_o be_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n declare_v that_o the_o same_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n be_v real_o true_o and_o substantial_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n after_o consecration_n under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n say_v it_o be_v the_o very_a body_n which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n and_o sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god._n 2._o that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n after_o consecration_n lose_v their_o proper_a substance_n and_o be_v change_v into_o that_o very_a substance_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n and_o a_o anathema_n be_v denounce_v against_o those_o who_o affirm_v the_o contrary_n now_o if_o you_o please_v proceed_v to_o your_o proof_n p._n i_o begin_v with_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n of_o st._n peter_n st._n 27._o james_n and_o st._n matthew_n pr._n be_v you_o in_o earnest_n p._n why_o what_o be_v the_o matter_n pr._n do_v not_o you_o know_v that_o these_o be_v reject_v as_o supposititious_a by_o your_o own_o writer_n and_o a_o very_a late_a and_o learned_a dr._n of_o the_o sorbon_n have_v give_v full_a and_o clear_a evidence_n 1686._o of_o it_o p._n suppose_v they_o be_v yet_o they_o may_v be_v of_o antiquity_n enough_o to_o give_v some_o competent_a testimony_n as_o to_o tradition_n pr._n no_o such_o matter_n for_o he_o prove_v st._n peter_n be_v liturgy_n to_o be_v late_a than_o the_o sacramentary_a of_o st._n gregory_n and_o so_o can_v prove_v nothing_o for_o the_o first_o 600_o year_n and_o the_o aethiopic_a 22._o liturgy_n or_o st._n matthew'_v he_o show_v to_o be_v very_o late_o that_o of_o st._n james_n he_o think_v to_o have_v be_v some_o time_n before_o the_o five_o general_a council_n but_o by_o no_o mean_n to_o have_v be_v st._n 23._o james_n p._n what_o think_v you_o of_o the_o act_n of_o st._n andrew_n and_o what_o he_o say_v therein_o about_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n 30._o pr._n i_o think_v he_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n but_o i_o be_o ashamed_a to_o find_v one_o who_o have_v so_o long_o be_v a_o minister_n in_o this_o church_n so_o extreme_o ignorant_a as_o to_o bring_v these_o for_o good_a authority_n which_o be_v reject_v with_o scorn_n by_o all_o man_n of_o learning_n and_o ingenuity_n among_o you_o p._n i_o be_o afraid_a you_o grow_v angry_a pr._n i_o confess_v ignorance_n and_o confidence_n together_o be_v very_a provoke_a thing_n especial_o when_o a_o man_n in_o year_n pretend_v to_o leave_v our_o church_n on_o such_o pitiful_a ground_n p._n but_o he_o do_v produce_v better_a authority_n pr._n if_o he_o do_v they_o be_v not_o to_o his_o purpose_n p._n that_o must_v be_v try_v what_o say_v you_o to_o ignatius_n i_o hope_v you_o allow_v his_o epistle_n pr._n i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n but_o what_o say_v he_o p._n he_o say_v that_o some_o heretic_n than_o will_v not_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n and_o oblation_n because_o they_o will_v not_o confess_v the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ._n and_o this_o be_v 109._o produce_v by_o both_o author_n pr._n the_o person_n ignatius_n speak_v of_o be_v such_o as_o deny_v christ_n to_o have_v any_o true_a body_n and_o therefore_o do_v forbear_v the_o eucharist_n because_o it_o be_v say_v to_o be_v his_o body_n and_o in_o what_o ever_o sense_n it_o be_v take_v it_o still_o suppose_a that_o which_o they_o deny_v viz._n that_o he_o have_v a_o true_a body_n for_o if_o it_o be_v figurative_o understand_v it_o be_v as_o contrary_a to_o their_o doctrine_n as_o if_o it_o be_v literal_o for_o a_o figure_n must_v
god._n but_o those_o who_o consider_v and_o know_v what_o god_n be_v and_o what_o he_o must_v be_v if_o he_o be_v god_n will_v find_v far_o great_a difficulty_n in_o make_v man_n to_o be_v god_n than_o in_o believe_v god_n to_o be_v make_v man._n for_o this_o imply_v no_o great_a difficulty_n than_o mere_o as_o to_o our_o conception_n how_o a_o infinite_a be_v can_v be_v so_o unite_v to_o a_o finite_a as_o to_o become_v one_o person_n which_o imply_v no_o repugnancy_n but_o only_o some_o thing_n above_o our_o capacity_n to_o comprehend_v and_o we_o confess_v ourselves_o puzzle_v in_o the_o manner_n of_o conceive_v how_o a_o finite_a spitit_fw-la which_o can_v pass_v through_o a_o body_n can_v be_v so_o unite_v to_o it_o as_o to_o make_v a_o man_n by_o that_o union_n yet_o we_o all_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o but_o to_o suppose_v a_o creature_n capable_a of_o be_v make_v god_n be_v to_o overthrow_v the_o essential_a difference_n between_o god_n and_o his_o creature_n and_o the_o infinite_a distance_n between_o they_o which_o be_v of_o very_o pernicious_a consequence_n as_o to_o the_o great_a end_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n which_o be_v to_o reform_v the_o world_n and_o to_o restore_v the_o distinction_n between_o god_n and_o his_o creature_n which_o by_o the_o prevalency_n of_o idolatry_n be_v almost_o lose_v in_o the_o world_n the_o supreme_a god_n be_v hardly_o discern_v in_o such_o a_o crowd_n of_o create_a and_o fictitious_a gods._n and_o this_o very_a argument_n be_v enough_o to_o turn_v my_o stomach_n against_o socinianism_n or_o arianism_n p._n i_o have_v think_v all_o man_n of_o sense_n among_o you_o have_v be_v socinian_o i_o have_v often_o hear_v they_o charge_v with_o be_v so_o pr._n you_o see_v how_o gross_o you_o be_v deceive_v notwithstanding_o your_o pretence_n to_o infallibility_n i_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o any_o deep_a reach_n but_o i_o see_v reason_n enough_o to_o be_v no_o socinian_n p._n let_v we_o return_v to_o our_o matter_n in_o hand_n what_o say_v you_o to_o those_o text_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o those_o before_o mention_v which_o relate_v to_o the_o unity_n between_o father_n and_o son_n pr._n what_o text_n do_v you_o mean_v p._n what_o say_v you_o to_o joh._n 10._o from_o the_o 30._o to_o the_o 39_o pr._n i_o wonder_v what_o it_o be_v produce_v for_o p._n it_o be_v say_v joh._n 10._o 30._o i_o and_o my_o father_n be_v one_o now_o it_o be_v high_o unreasonable_a to_o interpret_v these_o word_n literal_o because_o of_o those_o which_o follow_v pr._n how_o do_v that_o appear_v for_o v_o 31._o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o jew_n take_v up_o stone_n to_o stone_n he_o which_o show_v that_o they_o look_v on_o he_o as_o speak_v blasphemy_n but_o what_o blasphemy_n be_v it_o for_o christ_n to_o declare_v a_o unity_n of_o consent_n between_o he_o and_o his_o father_n which_o in_o truth_n be_v nothing_o but_o do_v his_o father_n will_n therefore_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o jew_n do_v apprehend_v more_o in_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o they_o explain_v themselves_o v_o 33._o what_o they_o understand_v by_o they_o because_o that_o thou_o be_v a_o man_n make_v thyself_o god._n which_o show_v that_o they_o think_v not_o a_o unity_n of_o consent_n but_o of_o nature_n be_v mean_v p._n but_o christ_n answer_n show_v that_o he_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o god_n by_o office_n and_o not_o by_o nature_n v_o 34._o jesus_n answer_v they_o be_v it_o not_o write_v in_o your_o law_n i_o say_v you_o be_v god_n pr._n i_o pray_v go_v on_o and_o see_v how_o christ_n argue_v v_o 35_o 36._o if_o he_o call_v they_o god_n unto_o who_o the_o word_n of_o god_n come_v and_o the_o scripture_n can_v be_v break_v say_v you_o of_o he_o who_o the_o father_n have_v send_v into_o the_o world_n thou_o blaspheme_v because_o i_o say_v i_o be_o the_o son_n of_o god_n p._n this_o only_a show_n that_o christ_n have_v great_a reason_n to_o be_v call_v god_n but_o not_o that_o he_o be_v so_o by_o nature_n pr._n i_o pray_v go_v on_o still_o v_o 37_o 38._o if_o i_o do_v not_o the_o work_v of_o my_o father_n believe_v i_o not_o but_o if_o i_o do_v though_o you_o believe_v not_o i_o believe_v the_o work_n that_o you_o may_v know_v and_o believe_v that_o the_o father_n be_v in_o i_o and_o i_o in_o he_o p._n be_v it_o not_o say_v elsewhere_o that_o he_o that_o keep_v his_o commandment_n dwell_v in_o he_o and_o he_o in_o he_o 1_o joh._n 3._o 24._o will_v you_o hence_o infer_v a_o unity_n of_o nature_n between_o christ_n and_o believer_n pr._n i_o do_v not_o lay_v the_o weight_n on_o the_o phrase_n but_o as_o it_o be_v the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o dispute_n between_o christ_n and_o the_o jew_n and_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o this_o be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o three_o conference_n between_o christ_n and_o the_o jew_n upon_o this_o argument_n the_o first_o be_v john_n 5._o and_o then_o from_o christ_n saying_n the_o father_n work_v hitherto_o and_o i_o work_v v_o 17._o the_o jew_n infer_v v_o 18._o that_o he_o make_v himself_o equal_a with_o god._n in_o the_o second_o conference_n john_n 8._o he_o say_v before_o abraham_n be_v i_o be_o v_o 58._o and_o then_o the_o jew_n take_v up_o stone_n to_o cast_v at_o he_o after_o this_o follow_v this_o three_o conference_n john._n 10._o and_o this_o run_v again_o into_o the_o same_o point_n that_o he_o be_v a_o man_n make_v himself_o god._n and_o these_o conference_n be_v all_o public_a in_o or_o near_o the_o temple_n and_o this_o last_o be_v in_o solomon_n porch_n john_n 10._o 23._o a_o place_n of_o great_a resort_n and_o near_o the_o place_n where_o the_o sanhedrim_n sit_v who_o be_v the_o judge_n in_o the_o case_n of_o blasphemy_n now_o the_o force_n of_o my_o argument_n from_o hence_o lie_v in_o these_o thing_n 1._o that_o christ_n certain_o know_v that_o the_o jew_n do_v think_v by_o his_o discourse_n that_o he_o make_v himself_o equal_a with_o god._n 2._o that_o if_o it_o be_v not_o true_a it_o be_v notorious_a blasphemy_n and_o so_o esteem_v by_o the_o jew_n 3._o that_o such_o a_o mistake_n ought_v to_o have_v be_v present_o correct_v and_o in_o the_o plain_a manner_n as_o we_o find_v it_o be_v do_v by_o st._n paul_n when_o the_o man_n of_o lystra_n say_v the_o god_n be_v come_v down_o to_o we_o in_o the_o likeness_n of_o man_n for_o he_o run_v in_o present_o among_o they_o and_o say_v we_o be_v man_n of_o like_a passion_n with_o you_o act_v 14._o 11_o 15._o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o i_o to_o think_v that_o if_o christ_n have_v know_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o mere_a man_n he_o will_v have_v suffer_v the_o jew_n to_o have_v run_v away_o with_o such_o a_o mistake_n as_o this_o without_o give_v they_o the_o clear_a and_o plain_a information_n whereas_o in_o all_o his_o answer_n he_o vindicate_v himself_o and_o endeavour_n rather_o to_o fasten_v those_o impression_n upon_o they_o as_o appear_v by_o this_o conclusion_n of_o the_o last_o conference_n that_o you_o may_v know_v and_o believe_v that_o the_o father_n be_v in_o i_o and_o i_o in_o he_o do_v this_o look_n like_o correct_v a_o dangerous_a mistake_n in_o the_o jew_n and_o be_v it_o not_o rather_o a_o justification_n of_o that_o sense_n which_o they_o take_v his_o word_n in_o and_o in_o the_o first_o conference_n john_n 5._o our_o saviour_n be_v so_o far_o from_o do_v as_o st._n paul_n do_v that_o he_o challenge_v divine_a honour_n as_o due_a to_o himself_o that_o all_o man_n shall_v honour_v the_o son_n as_o they_o honour_v the_o father_n v_o 23._o from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o christ_n must_v be_v charge_v as_o one_o who_o be_v a_o mere_a man_n do_v affect_v divine_a honour_n or_o else_o that_o be_v god_n as_o well_o as_o man_n he_o look_v on_o it_o as_o just_o due_a to_o he_o i_o pray_v tell_v i_o what_o sense_n do_v your_o friend_n the_o socinian_o make_v of_o those_o word_n of_o st._n paul_n phil._n 2._o 6_o 7._o who_o be_v in_o the_o form_n of_o god_n think_v it_o not_o robbery_n to_o be_v equal_a with_o god_n but_o make_v himself_o of_o no_o reputation_n etc._n etc._n p._n the_o sense_n they_o give_v be_v this_o that_o he_o do_v not_o make_v a_o show_n or_o ostentation_n of_o his_o own_o greatness_n but_o studious_o conceal_v it_o and_o therein_o show_v his_o great_a humility_n pr._n but_o be_v there_o any_o greatness_n like_o that_o of_o divine_a honour_n and_o yet_o this_o he_o challenge_v to_o himself_o p._n but_o he_o know_v what_o the_o father_n design_v he_o for_o and_o so_o speak_v those_o thing_n by_o way_n of_o prediction_n pr._n he_o know_v
be_v all_o thing_n and_o we_o in_o he_o and_o one_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n by_o who_o be_v all_o thing_n and_o we_o by_o he_o and_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o strong_a hold_n of_o the_o socinian_o but_o two_o consideration_n will_v take_v off_o the_o seem_a force_n of_o it_o 1._o that_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o dispute_n with_o the_o gentile_a idolater_n concern_v who_o he_o speak_v v_o 4_o 5._o do_v utter_o deny_v any_o divinity_n in_o the_o being_n they_o worship_v instead_o of_o god_n when_o he_o say_v a_o idol_n be_v nothing_o in_o the_o world_n and_o that_o there_o be_v none_o other_o god_n but_o one_o he_o know_v very_o well_o that_o they_o worship_v many_o v_o 5._o as_o there_o be_v god_n many_o and_o lord_n many_o among_o they_o but_o unto_o we_o christian_n there_o be_v but_o one_o god_n and_o one_o lord_n i._n e._n we_o have_v but_o one_o supreme_a god_n to_o who_o we_o give_v divine_a worship_n and_o instead_o of_o the_o multitude_n of_o mediator_n we_o have_v but_o one_o mediator_n and_o so_o his_o design_n be_v in_o opposition_n to_o their_o many_o god_n to_o assert_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n not_o so_o as_o to_o exclude_v a_o distinction_n of_o person_n but_o thereby_o to_o exclude_v other_o god_n as_o the_o proper_a object_n of_o worship_n and_o the_o unity_n of_o a_o mediator_n in_o opposition_n to_o their_o many_o lord_n 2._o that_o if_o this_o place_n exclude_v christ_n from_o the_o unity_n of_o nature_n with_o god_n it_o do_v exclude_v he_o from_o be_v the_o object_n of_o divine_a worship_n for_o it_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o god_n but_o one_o therefore_o no_o creature_n can_v be_v make_v god_n and_o to_o we_o there_o be_v but_o one_o god_n the_o father_n therefore_o the_o son_n can_v be_v god._n if_o therefore_o the_o name_n lord_n be_v take_v in_o opposition_n to_o god_n than_o christ_n can_v be_v god_n in_o any_o sense_n for_o we_o must_v have_v but_o one_o god_n but_o the_o plain_a meaning_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v that_o by_o one_o lord_n he_o mean_v one_o mediator_n by_o who_o alone_o we_o have_v in_o this_o new_a frame_n of_o thing_n by_o the_o gospel_n access_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n the_o three_o place_n 1_o cor._n 15._o 27_o 28._o speak_v plain_o of_o christ_n kingdom_n as_o mediator_n the_o four_o place_n rev._n 3._o 12._o where_o christ_n speak_v several_a time_n of_o my_o god_n prove_v no_o more_o than_o his_o word_n on_o the_o cross_n my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o for_o sure_o christ_n may_v own_v a_o particular_a relation_n to_o god_n and_o interest_n in_o he_o as_o he_o be_v in_o human_a nature_n without_o overthrow_v the_o divine_a nature_n in_o he_o p._n but_o he_o own_v that_o though_o he_o be_v to_o be_v our_o judge_n he_o know_v not_o the_o time_n mark_v 13._o 32._o which_o seem_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o divine_a nature_n which_o know_v all_o thing_n pr._n the_o son_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v christ_n as_o endue_v with_o a_o human_a soul_n when_o he_o be_v upon_o earth_n which_o can_v not_o understand_v a_o secret_a so_o much_o out_o of_o the_o reach_n of_o man_n understanding_n without_o immediate_a revelation_n but_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a by_o virtue_n of_o the_o union_n of_o both_o nature_n that_o the_o divine_a nature_n shall_v communicate_v to_o the_o human_a soul_n of_o christ_n all_o divine_a mystery_n but_o as_o the_o human_a body_n be_v notwithstanding_o subject_a to_o passion_n and_o infirmity_n incident_a to_o it_o so_o the_o human_a soul_n may_v continue_v ignorant_a of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n in_o this_o state_n both_o to_o let_v we_o know_v how_o great_a that_o secret_a be_v and_o that_o christ_n have_v the_o proper_a capacity_n of_o a_o human_a soul_n which_o can_v not_o extend_v to_o such_o thing_n without_o divine_a revelation_n p._n there_o be_v one_o argument_n more_o which_o seem_v to_o prove_v christ_n divinity_n and_o do_v not_o viz._n the_o make_n of_o all_o thing_n visible_a and_o invisible_a be_v attribute_v to_o he_o john_n 1._o 3._o heb._n 1._o 10._o col._n 1._o 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o pr._n now_o i_o confess_v this_o do_v more_o than_o seem_v to_o i_o to_o be_v a_o very_a strong_a argument_n and_o that_o for_o this_o reason_n the_o apostle_n say_v the_o invisible_a thing_n of_o he_o from_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v clear_o see_v be_v understand_v by_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v make_v even_o his_o eternal_a power_n and_o godhead_n rom._n 1._o 20._o be_v this_o argument_n of_o the_o apostle_n good_a or_o not_o p._n no_o doubt_v it_o be_v pr._n then_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v a_o invincible_a proof_n of_o the_o true_a god._n p._n what_o follow_v pr._n then_o if_o the_o make_n of_o all_o thing_n be_v attribute_v to_o christ_n he_o must_v be_v true_a god_n but_o this_o be_v plain_a in_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o which_o the_o make_n of_o all_o thing_n be_v as_o clear_o attribute_v to_o the_o son_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o father_n all_o thing_n say_v st._n john_n be_v make_v by_o he_o and_o without_o he_o be_v not_o any_o thing_n make_v that_o be_v make_v john_n 1._o 3._o for_o by_o he_o be_v all_o thing_n create_v say_v st._n paul_n that_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o that_o be_v in_o earth_n visible_a and_o invisible_a whether_o they_o be_v throne_n or_o dominion_n or_o principality_n or_o power_n all_o thing_n be_v create_v by_o he_o and_o for_o he_o col._n 1._o 16._o thou_o lord_n in_o the_o begin_n have_v lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o the_o heaven_n be_v the_o work_n of_o thy_o hand_n heb._n 1._o 10._o now_o compare_v these_o expression_n with_o those_o wherein_o the_o creation_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o father_n the_o world_n be_v say_v to_o be_v make_v by_o bim_n rom._n 1._o 20._o that_o he_o have_v create_v all_o thing_n rev._n 4._o 11._o that_o of_o he_o and_o for_o he_o and_o to_o he_o be_v all_o thing_n rom._n 11._o 36._o and_o let_v any_o impartial_a mind_n discern_v the_o difference_n therefore_o we_o have_v as_o much_o reason_n from_o scripture_n to_o believe_v christ_n to_o be_v god_n as_o we_o have_v from_o the_o creation_n of_o thing_n to_o believe_v a_o god._n p._n but_o you_o do_v not_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o different_a expression_n in_o scripture_n concern_v the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n all_o thing_n be_v say_v to_o be_v of_o the_o father_n and_o by_o the_o son_n 1_o cor._n 8._o 6._o and_o that_o the_o father_n create_v all_o thing_n by_o jesus_n christ_n eph._n 3._o 9_o which_o prove_v no_o more_o than_o that_o the_o son_n be_v god_n instrument_n in_o the_o creation_n pr._n what_o do_v you_o mean_v by_o god_n instrument_n in_o the_o creation_n do_v you_o think_v one_o creature_n can_v create_v another_o how_o then_o can_v the_o creation_n prove_v a_o infinite_a power_n if_o you_o believe_v the_o instrument_n uncreated_a than_o you_o must_v assert_v he_o to_o be_v true_a god_n by_o nature_n and_o then_o we_o have_v all_o we_o desire_v p._n but_o the_o socinian_o do_v not_o like_o this_o answer_n of_o the_o arian_n and_o therefore_o they_o interpret_v these_o place_n of_o the_o state_n of_o thing_n under_o the_o gospel_n and_o not_o of_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o world._n pr._n they_o have_v not_o one_o jot_n mend_v the_o matter_n for_o 1._o where_o the_o new_a creation_n be_v speak_v of_o some_o circumstance_n be_v add_v which_o limit_v the_o sense_n to_o it_o as_o when_o st._n paul_n say_v we_o be_v create_v in_o christ_n jesus_n unto_o good_a work_n that_o we_o shoul_n walk_v in_o they_o eph._n 2._o 10._o who_o can_v possible_o understand_v this_o of_o the_o old_a creation_n and_o so_o if_o any_o man_n be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n he_o be_v a_o new_a creature_n 2_o cor._n 5._o 17._o but_o in_o the_o other_o place_n the_o same_o expression_n be_v use_v which_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o old_a creation_n without_o limitation_n from_o circumstance_n or_o from_o the_o context_n and_o occasion_n of_o they_o 2._o there_o be_v some_o thing_n say_v to_o be_v create_v by_o christ_n jesus_n which_o can_v relate_v to_o the_o new_a creation_n for_o by_o he_o be_v all_o thing_n create_v that_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o that_o be_v in_o earth_n visible_a and_o invisible_a whether_o they_o be_v throne_n or_o dominion_n or_o principality_n or_o power_n col._n 1._o 16._o how_o be_v these_o create_v by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n when_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o the_o proper_a mean_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n upon_o repentance_n and_o the_o renew_n and_o sanctifi_a grace_n of_o god_n p._n but_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o
pr._n then_o be_v extend_v and_o divisible_a be_v the_o natural_a and_o essential_a property_n of_o a_o body_n and_o therefore_o to_o suppose_v a_o body_n not_o to_o be_v extend_v and_o divisible_a be_v to_o suppose_v it_o not_o to_o be_v a_o body_n which_o be_v a_o plain_a contradiction_n p._n you_o be_v to_o distinguish_v between_o the_o intrinsecal_n quantity_n which_o be_v a_o inseparable_a property_n of_o a_o body_n and_o the_o extrinsical_a relation_n it_o have_v to_o a_o place_n pr._n intrinsical_a quantity_n without_o relation_n to_o place_n be_v intrinsical_v nonsense_n for_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o extend_a part_n to_o have_v no_o relation_n to_o place_n p._n by_o relation_n to_o place_n i_o mean_v when_o the_o part_n of_o a_o body_n answer_v to_o the_o part_n of_o a_o place_n but_o by_o intrinsecal_n quantity_n i_o mean_v that_o there_o be_v the_o real_a order_n and_o proportion_n of_o part_n in_o the_o body_n itself_o but_o it_o do_v not_o fill_v up_o the_o place_n pr._n then_o you_o do_v suppose_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o have_v all_o the_o distinct_a part_n of_o a_o body_n with_o their_o due_a order_n and_o proportion_n but_o to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n after_o a_o indivisible_a manner_n p._n why_o not_o pr._n do_v you_o think_v it_o possible_a for_o the_o real_a and_o entire_a body_n of_o a_o man_n to_o be_v crowd_v into_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o wafer_n with_o all_o the_o difference_n of_o its_o part_n so_o that_o no_o true_a part_n of_o the_o body_n be_v miss_v p._n yes_o by_o divine_a power_n pr._n do_v you_o think_v a_o far_o less_o thing_n possible_a than_o that_o viz._n that_o a_o man_n head_n and_o shoulder_n and_o arm_n shall_v be_v contain_v entire_a and_o distinct_a under_o the_o nail_n of_o his_o little_a finger_n p._n why_o not_o pr._n then_o why_o may_v not_o the_o great_a body_n be_v within_o the_o least_o why_o may_v not_o a_o elephant_n be_v catch_v in_o a_o mousetrap_n and_o a_o rhinoceros_n be_v put_v into_o a_o snuff-box_n for_o either_o there_o be_v a_o repugnancy_n in_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n for_o a_o great_a body_n to_o be_v within_o a_o less_o or_o there_o be_v not_o if_o not_o than_o these_o mention_a instance_n be_v possible_a if_o there_o be_v than_o the_o supposition_n of_o divine_a power_n can_v give_v no_o relief_n unless_o you_o suppose_v that_o god_n can_v do_v thing_n repugnant_a in_o themselves_o i._n e._n that_o he_o can_v do_v thing_n which_o can_v be_v do_v but_o i_o pray_v tell_v i_o if_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v by_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o wafer_n with_o all_o its_o part_n in_o their_o due_a order_n than_o the_o head_n must_v be_v distant_a from_o the_o foot_n and_o all_o other_o organ_n in_o their_o proper_a place_n but_o this_o can_v possible_o be_v suppose_v where_o there_o be_v no_o measure_n of_o distance_n as_o place_n be_v and_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v in_o a_o point_n p._n i_o say_v again_o there_o be_v the_o just_a order_n of_o part_n consider_v in_o themselves_o but_o not_o with_o respect_n to_o place_n pr._n then_o it_o be_v impossible_a there_o shall_v be_v any_o distance_n without_o which_o it_o be_v impossible_a there_o shall_v be_v the_o order_n of_o part_n in_o a_o human_a body_n thus_o there_o be_v a_o repugnancy_n in_o the_o very_a supposition_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o the_o wafer_n though_o there_o be_v but_o one_o single_a wafer_n but_o when_o to_o this_o we_o add_v that_o it_o be_v equal_o thus_o present_a in_o thousand_o of_o wafer_n at_o what_o distance_n of_o place_n soever_o the_o absurdity_n do_v increase_v and_o multiply_v so_o fast_o upon_o we_o that_o it_o be_v hardly_o possible_a to_o imagine_v any_o thing_n concern_v a_o body_n which_o do_v imply_v more_o than_o this_o do_v as_o that_o one_o and_o the_o same_o body_n shall_v be_v indivisible_o present_a in_o many_o place_n where_o it_o must_v be_v divide_v from_o itself_o by_o so_o many_o body_n interpose_v so_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o apprehend_v how_o two_o body_n can_v be_v divide_v from_o one_o another_o more_o effectual_o than_o such_o a_o body_n must_v be_v from_o itself_o if_o it_o be_v present_a in_o many_o place_n at_o once_o p._n i_o pray_v stop_v here_o for_o reckon_v up_o as_o many_o absurdity_n as_o you_o will_v they_o be_v all_o but_o the_o effect_n of_o carnal_a reason_n and_o we_o must_v captivate_v our_o understanding_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o faith._n pr._n then_o it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n to_o argue_v any_o far_a on_o the_o point_n of_o reason_n and_o i_o think_v you_o design_v this_o for_o one_o part_n of_o your_o parallel_n p._n so_o i_o do_v and_o i_o still_o say_v there_o be_v thing_n as_o hard_o to_o make_v out_o about_o the_o trinity_n which_o you_o have_v not_o yet_o take_v notice_n of_o pr._n i_o pray_v let_v we_o hear_v they_o that_o we_o may_v put_v a_o end_n to_o this_o discourse_n p._n what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o one_o and_o the_o same_o nature_n be_v in_o three_o distinct_a person_n which_o bellarmin_n say_v be_v more_o wonderful_a than_o that_o one_o body_n shall_v be_v in_o many_o place_n because_o the_o nature_n be_v identify_v with_o the_o person_n but_o the_o body_n be_v not_o so_o with_o the_o place_n in_o which_o it_o be_v present_a if_o therefore_o the_o same_o nature_n be_v not_o divide_v from_o itself_o in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n how_o much_o more_o easy_o may_v one_o body_n be_v present_a in_o several_a place_n and_o not_o be_v divide_v from_o itself_o pr._n it_o be_v strange_a neither_o bellarmin_n nor_o you_o shall_v discern_v the_o difference_n for_o the_o reason_n why_o a_o body_n must_v be_v divide_v from_o itself_o be_v in_o several_a place_n be_v because_o it_o be_v finite_a and_o there_o be_v no_o penetration_n of_o dimension_n in_o body_n the_o interpose_v of_o other_o body_n must_v needs_o divide_v the_o same_o body_n in_o distant_a place_n but_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o same_o divine_a nature_n may_v be_v in_o several_a person_n be_v because_o it_o be_v infinite_a and_o therefore_o nothing_o can_v bound_v or_o discontinue_v it_o p._n you_o have_v talk_v much_o of_o contradiction_n be_v there_o any_o great_a about_o transubstantiation_n than_o that_o of_o eternal_a generation_n of_o the_o son_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o proper_a generation_n than_o you_o can_v infer_v from_o it_o that_o the_o son_n be_v of_o the_o same_o substance_n with_o the_o father_n if_o it_o be_v than_o it_o must_v be_v a_o proceed_n from_o not_o be_v to_o be_v and_o so_o a_o eternal_a generation_n be_v a_o contradiction_n pr._n it_o be_v a_o rule_n in_o common_a reason_n that_o all_o attribute_n must_v be_v understand_v according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o therefore_o if_o the_o subject_a here_o speak_v of_o be_v of_o such_o a_o nature_n as_o to_o be_v uncapable_a of_o proceed_v from_o not_o be_v to_o be_v than_o whatever_o be_v affirm_v of_o it_o must_v be_v so_o understand_v as_o not_o to_o destroy_v its_o nature_n the_o term_n of_o generation_n alone_o be_v not_o it_o may_v be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v the_o son_n coessential_a with_o the_o father_n because_o it_o may_v have_v be_v use_v improper_o and_o metaphorical_o but_o when_o from_o the_o scripture_n it_o otherwise_o appear_v that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v the_o word_n be_v in_o the_o begin_n with_o god_n and_o be_v god_n john_n 1._o 1._o and_o we_o soon_o after_o find_v he_o call_v the_o only_o beget_v of_o the_o father_n ver._n 14._o and_o the_o only_o beget_v son_n ver._n 18._o we_o have_v reason_n to_o infer_v from_o hence_o his_o eternal_a generation_n which_o must_v not_o be_v understand_v in_o such_o a_o mean_a sense_n as_o be_v agreeable_a to_o creature_n but_o as_o it_o be_v consistent_a with_o the_o essential_a attribute_n of_o god_n of_o which_o necessary_a existence_n be_v one_o so_o that_o by_o eternal_a generation_n no_o more_o can_v be_v mean_v than_o such_o a_o emanation_n of_o the_o son_n from_o the_o father_n as_o do_v suppose_v they_o to_o have_v the_o same_o nature_n and_o coexistence_n which_o be_v best_a represent_v by_o the_o ray_n of_o the_o sun_n come_v from_o the_o fountain_n of_o light_n if_o they_o be_v permanent_a and_o not_o successive_a p._n what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o incarnation_n be_v it_o not_o more_o wonderful_a as_o bellarmin_n observe_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v one_o hypostasis_fw-la in_o two_o nature_n than_o one_o body_n in_o two_o place_n since_o the_o union_n be_v great_a between_o the_o hypostasis_fw-la and_o the_o nature_n than_o between_o the_o body_n and_o the_o place_n it_o be_v
reason_n they_o bring_v place_n out_o of_o popular_a discourse_n intend_v to_o heighten_v the_o people_n devotion_n and_o never_o compare_v they_o with_o those_o principle_n which_o they_o assert_v when_o they_o come_v to_o reason_v which_o will_v plain_o show_v their_o other_o expression_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o a_o mystical_a and_o figurative_a sense_n but_o i_o pray_v tell_v i_o do_v you_o think_v the_o father_n have_v no_o distinct_a notion_n of_o a_o body_n and_o spirit_n and_o the_o essential_a property_n of_o both_o p._n yes_o doubtless_o pr._n suppose_v then_o they_o make_v those_o to_o lie_v in_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n do_v you_o think_v than_o they_o can_v hold_v it_o to_o be_v so_o present_a and_o if_o they_o do_v not_o they_o can_v not_o believe_v transubstantiation_n p._n very_o true_a pr._n what_o think_v you_o then_o of_o st._n augustin_n who_o make_v it_o impossible_a for_o a_o body_n to_o be_v without_o its_o dimension_n and_o extension_n of_o part_n but_o you_o assert_v a_o body_n may_v be_v without_o they_o or_o else_o it_o can_v be_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n as_o you_o say_v it_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n p._n i_o pray_v show_v that_o st._n augustin_n make_v it_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o body_n to_o be_v otherwise_o pr._n he_o say_v that_o all_o body_n how_o gross_a or_o subtle_a soever_o they_o be_v can_v never_o be_v all_o every_o where_o i._n e._n can_v volusian_n be_v indivisible_o present_a after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n but_o must_v be_v extend_v according_a to_o their_o several_a part_n and_o whether_o great_a or_o little_a must_v take_v up_o a_o space_n and_o so_o fill_v the_o place_n that_o it_o can_v be_v all_o in_o any_o one_o part._n be_v this_o possible_a to_o be_v reconcile_v with_o your_o notion_n of_o a_o body_n be_v present_a after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n p._n to_o be_v present_a after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n be_v with_o we_o to_o be_v so_o present_a as_o not_o to_o be_v extend_v and_o to_o be_v whole_a in_o every_o part_n pr._n but_o this_o st._n augustin_n say_v no_o body_n can_v be_v and_o not_o only_o there_o but_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v take_v away_o dimension_n from_o body_n and_o they_o be_v no_o long_a body_n and_o that_o a_o great_a part_n take_v up_o a_o great_a space_n and_o a_o lesser_a a_o less_o and_o must_v be_v always_o less_o in_o the_o part_n than_o in_o the_o 166._o whole_a p._n but_o he_o speak_v of_o extension_n in_o itself_o and_o not_o with_o respect_n to_o place_n pr._n that_o be_v of_o extension_n that_o be_v not_o extend_v for_o if_o it_o be_v it_o must_v have_v respect_n to_o place_n but_o nothing_o can_v be_v plain_o than_o that_o st._n augustin_n do_v speak_v with_o respect_n to_o place_n and_o he_o elsewhere_o say_v that_o every_o body_n must_v have_v place_n and_o be_v extend_v in_o it_o 51._o p._n but_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v this_o of_o the_o sacrament_n pr._n but_o he_o speak_v it_o of_o all_o body_n wheresoever_o present_a and_o he_o do_v not_o except_o the_o sacrament_n which_o he_o will_v certain_o have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v believe_v as_o you_o do_v concern_v it_o p._n st._n augustin_n may_v have_v particular_a opinion_n in_o this_o as_o he_o have_v in_o other_o thing_n pr._n so_o far_o from_o it_o that_o i_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o this_o be_v the_o general_a sense_n of_o the_o father_n st._n gregory_n nazianzen_n say_v that_o the_o nature_n of_o body_n require_v that_o they_o have_v figure_n and_o shape_n and_o may_v be_v touch_v and_o see_v and_o circumscribe_v trin._n st._n cyril_n of_o alexandria_n say_v that_o if_o god_n himself_o be_v a_o body_n he_o must_v be_v liable_a to_o the_o property_n of_o body_n and_o he_o must_v be_v in_o a_o place_n as_o body_n be_v and_o all_o those_o father_n who_o prove_v that_o god_n can_v be_v a_o body_n do_v it_o from_o such_o argument_n as_o show_v that_o they_o know_v nothing_o of_o a_o body_n be_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n for_o then_o the_o force_n of_o their_o argument_n be_v lose_v which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o essential_a property_n of_o a_o body_n such_o as_o extension_n divisibility_n and_o circumscription_n but_o if_o a_o body_n may_v be_v without_o these_o than_o god_n may_v be_v a_o body_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o spirit_n and_o so_o the_o spirituality_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n will_v be_v take_v away_o p._n i_o never_o hear_v these_o argument_n before_o and_o must_v take_v some_o time_n to_o consider_v pr._n the_o soon_o the_o better_a and_o i_o be_o sure_a if_o you_o do_v you_o will_v repent_v be_v a_o new_a convert_n but_o i_o have_v yet_o something_o to_o add_v to_o this_o argument_n viz._n that_o those_o who_o have_v state_v the_o difference_n between_o body_n and_o spirit_n have_v make_v extension_n and_o take_v up_o a_o place_n and_o divisibility_n necessary_a 14._o to_o the_o very_o be_v of_o a_o body_n and_o that_o what_o be_v not_o circumscribe_v be_v incorporeal_a p._n methinks_v your_o argument_n run_v out_o to_o a_o great_a length_n i_o pray_v bring_v they_o into_o a_o less_o compass_n pr._n i_o proceed_v to_o a_o three_o argument_n from_o the_o father_n which_o will_v not_o take_v up_o much_o time_n and_o that_o be_v that_o the_o father_n know_v nothing_o of_o the_o subsistence_n of_o accident_n without_o their_o substance_n without_o which_o transubstantiation_n can_v be_v maintain_v and_o therefore_o in_o the_o roman_a school_n the_o possibility_n of_o accident_n subsist_v without_o their_o subject_n be_v defend_v but_o on_o the_o contrary_a maximus_n one_o of_o the_o elder_a 22._o of_o the_o father_n who_o live_v in_o the_o second_o century_n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o accident_n to_o be_v in_o their_o substance_n st._n basil_n say_v nature_n do_v not_o bear_v a_o distinction_n between_o body_n and_o figure_n although_o reason_n make_v one_o 43._o isidore_n pâ—lusiota_n say_v that_o quality_n can_v be_v without_o substance_n 72._o gregory_n nyssen_n that_o figure_n can_v be_v without_o body_n and_o 24._o that_o a_o body_n can_v be_v conceive_v without_o quality_n and_o that_o if_o we_o take_v away_o colour_n and_o quantity_n and_o resistance_n the_o whole_a notion_n of_o a_o body_n be_v destroy_v take_v away_o space_n from_o body_n say_v st._n augustin_n and_o they_o can_v be_v no_o where_o and_o if_o they_o can_v be_v no_o where_o they_o can_v be_v and_o so_o he_o say_v if_o we_o 9_o take_v away_o body_n from_o their_o quality_n and_o in_o plain_a term_n that_o no_o quality_n as_o colour_n or_o form_n can_v remain_v without_o their_o subject_n and_o that_o no_o accident_n can_v be_v without_o their_o subject_n be_v in_o 12._o general_n affirm_v by_o isidore_n hispalensis_n boethius_n damascen_n and_o other_o who_o give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o philosophy_n of_o the_o ancient_n p._n all_o this_o proceed_v upon_o the_o old_a philosophy_n of_o accident_n what_o if_o there_o be_v none_o at_o all_o pr._n what_o then_o make_v the_o same_o impression_n on_o our_o sense_n when_o the_o substance_n be_v go_v as_o when_o it_o be_v there_o be_v there_o a_o perpetual_a miracle_n to_o deceive_v our_o sense_n but_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o maintain_v transubstantiation_n as_o it_o be_v define_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n without_o accident_n they_o may_v hold_v some_o other_o doctrine_n in_o the_o place_n of_o it_o but_o they_o can_v hold_v that_o and_o that_o other_o doctrine_n will_v be_v as_o impossible_a to_o be_v understand_v for_o if_o once_o we_o suppose_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o place_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n which_o appear_v to_o our_o sense_n to_o be_v bread_n still_o then_o suppose_v there_o be_v no_o accident_n the_o body_n of_o a_o man_n must_v make_v the_o same_o impression_n on_o our_o sense_n which_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n do_v which_o be_v so_o horrible_a a_o absurdity_n that_o the_o philosophy_n of_o accident_n can_v imply_v any_o great_a than_o it_o so_o that_o the_o new_a transubstantiator_n have_v as_o good_a return_n to_o the_o old_a mumpsimus_n of_o accident_n p._n i_o suppose_v you_o have_v now_o do_v with_o this_o argument_n pr._n no_o i_o have_v something_o far_a to_o say_v about_o it_o which_o be_v that_o the_o father_n do_v not_o only_o assert_v that_o accident_n can_v be_v without_o their_o subject_n but_o they_o confute_v heretic_n on_o that_o supposition_n which_o show_v their_o assurance_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o irenoeus_n overthrow_v the_o valentinian_n conjugation_n because_o truth_n can_v no_o
table_n as_o a_o sacrifice_n slay_v for_o we_o thou_o swear_v upon_o the_o holy_a table_n where_o christ_n lie_v slay_v when_o thou_o see_v our_o lord_n lie_v on_o the_o table_n and_o the_o priest_n 3._o pray_v and_o the_o bystander_n purple_v with_o his_o blood._n see_v the_o love_n of_o christ_n he_o do_v not_o only_o suffer_v himself_o to_o be_v see_v by_o those_o who_o desire_v it_o but_o to_o be_v touch_v and_o eat_v and_o our_o tooth_n to_o be_v fix_v in_o his_o flesh._n 45._o now_o these_o expression_n be_v on_o all_o side_n grant_v to_o be_v literal_o absurd_a and_o impossible_a and_o therefore_o we_o must_v say_v of_o he_o as_o bonaventure_n once_o say_v of_o s._n augustin_n plus_fw-fr dicit_fw-la sanctus_fw-la &_o minus_fw-la vult_fw-la intelligi_fw-la we_o must_v make_v great_a allowance_n for_o such_o expression_n or_o you_o must_v hold_v a_o capernaitical_a sense_n and_o it_o be_v deny_v by_o yourselves_o that_o christ_n be_v actual_o slay_v upon_o the_o altar_n and_o therefore_o you_o yield_v that_o such_o expression_n be_v to_o be_v figurative_o understand_v 2._o that_o he_o le_fw-fr we_o fall_v many_o thing_n in_o such_o discourse_n which_o do_v give_v light_n to_o the_o rest_n as_o 1._o that_o flesh_n be_v improper_o take_v when_o apply_v to_o the_o eucharist_n 5._o 2._o he_o call_v the_o sacrament_n the_o mystical_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n 5._o 3._o that_o the_o eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v literal_o but_o spiritual_o joh._n 4._o he_o oppose_v christ_n sacramental_a presence_n and_o real_a hebr._n corporal_a presence_n to_o each_o other_o 5._o he_o still_o exhort_v the_o communicants_a to_o look_v upward_o towards_o heaven_n and_o now_o if_o you_o lay_v these_o thing_n together_o this_o eloquent_a father_n will_v not_o with_o all_o his_o flight_n come_v near_o to_o transubstantiation_n p._n no_o in_o one_o place_n he_o assert_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n to_o be_v lose_v 6._o pr._n thanks_o to_o the_o latin_a translator_n for_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o critic_n observe_v do_v not_o signify_v to_o destroy_v but_o to_o refine_v and_o purify_v a_o substance_n but_o i_o do_v not_o rely_v upon_o this_o for_o the_o plain_a answer_n be_v that_o s._n chrysostom_n do_v not_o there_o speak_v of_o the_o element_n upon_o consecration_n but_o what_o become_v of_o they_o after_o they_o be_v take_v down_o into_o the_o stomach_n st._n chrysostom_n think_v it_o will_v lessen_v the_o people_n reverence_n and_o devotion_n if_o they_o pass_v into_o the_o draught_n as_o origen_n affirm_v and_o therefore_o he_o start_v another_o opinion_n viz._n that_o as_o wax_v when_o it_o be_v melt_v in_o the_o fire_n throws_z off_o no_o superfluity_n but_o it_o pass_v indiscernable_o away_o so_o the_o element_n or_o mystery_n as_o he_o call_v they_o pass_v imperceptible_o into_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n and_o so_o be_v consume_v together_o with_o it_o therefore_o say_v he_o approach_v with_o reverence_n not_o suppose_v that_o you_o receive_v the_o divine_a body_n from_o a_o man_n but_o as_o with_o tongue_n of_o fire_n from_o the_o seraphim_n which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o consensus_fw-la veterum_fw-la translate_v but_o fire_n from_o the_o tongue_n of_o seraphim_n s._n chrysostom_n word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o 56._o sense_n be_v that_o the_o divine_a body_n i._n e._n the_o eucharist_n after_o consecration_n be_v by_o the_o divine_a spirit_n make_v the_o divine_a body_n as_o in_o st._n chrysostom_n liturgy_n there_o be_v a_o particular_a prayer_n for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o come_v and_o so_o make_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v the_o divine_a body_n or_o the_o holy_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v take_v not_o with_o our_o 77._o mouth_n which_o can_v only_o receive_v the_o element_n but_o after_o a_o divine_a manner_n as_o with_o tongue_n of_o fire_n from_o seraphim_n by_o which_o he_o express_v the_o spiritual_a act_n of_o faith_n and_o devotion_n as_o most_o agreeable_a to_o that_o divine_a spirit_n which_o make_v the_o element_n to_o become_v the_o holy_a body_n of_o christ._n but_o that_o st._n chrysostom_n do_v true_o and_o firm_o believe_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v after_o consecration_n i_o have_v already_o prove_v from_o his_o epistle_n to_o coesarius_n p._n i_o pray_v let_v we_o not_o go_v backward_o have_v so_o much_o ground_n to_o run_v over_o still_o pr._n i_o be_o content_a if_o you_o will_v produce_v only_o those_o who_o speak_v of_o the_o change_n of_o substance_n and_o not_o such_o as_o only_o mention_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n after_o consecration_n which_o i_o have_v already_o tell_v you_o be_v the_o language_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o all_o those_o testimony_n be_v of_o no_o force_n in_o this_o matter_n p._n then_o i_o must_v quit_v the_o great_a part_n of_o what_o remain_v as_o optatus_n gaudentius_n s._n jerom_n and_o other_o but_o i_o have_v some_o still_o leave_v which_o will_v set_v you_o hard_o what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o gregory_n nyssen_n who_o say_v the_o sanctify_a bread_n be_v change_v into_o 37._o the_o body_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god._n and_o he_o take_v off_o your_o answer_n of_o a_o mystical_a body_n for_o he_o put_v the_o question_n how_o the_o same_o body_n can_v daily_o be_v distribute_v to_o the_o faithful_a throughout_o the_o world_n it_o remain_v whole_a and_o entire_a in_o itself_o pr._n gregory_n nyssen_n be_v a_o man_n of_o fancy_n and_o he_o show_v it_o in_o that_o catechetical_a discourse_n however_o fronto_n ducoeus_fw-la think_v it_o a_o notable_a place_n to_o prove_v transubstantiation_n which_o i_o wonder_v at_o if_o he_o attend_v to_o the_o design_n of_o it_o which_o be_v to_o show_v that_o as_o our_o body_n by_o eat_v become_v subject_a to_o corruption_n so_o by_o eat_v they_o become_v capable_a of_o immortality_n and_o this_o he_o say_v must_v be_v by_o receive_v a_o immortal_a body_n into_o our_o b_o dies_z such_o as_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v but_o then_o say_v he_o how_o can_v that_o body_n which_o be_v to_o remain_v whole_a in_o itself_o be_v distribute_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a over_o the_o whole_a earth_n he_o answer_v by_o say_v that_o our_o body_n do_v consist_v of_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v their_o proper_a nourishment_n and_o christ_n body_n be_v like_o we_o that_o be_v so_o too_o which_o by_o the_o union_n with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v change_v into_o a_o divine_a dignity_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o eucharist_n you_o may_v say_v he_o go_v on_o therefore_o so_o i_o believe_v the_o sanctify_a bread_n by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n of_o god_n the_o word_n not_o into_o that_o individual_a body_n but_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n by_o a_o presence_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o god_n the_o word_n in_o it_o and_o that_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n do_v evident_o appear_v by_o what_o follow_v for_o say_v he_o that_o body_n viz._n to_o which_o he_o be_v incarnate_a be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o inhabitation_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d dwell_v in_o the_o flesh_n therefore_o as_o the_o bread_n be_v then_o change_v into_o a_o divine_a dignity_n in_o the_o body_n so_o it_o be_v now_o and_o the_o bread_n be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o of_o jesus_n christ_n as_o it_o be_v say_v by_o the_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o so_o by_o receive_v this_o divine_a body_n into_o our_o body_n they_o be_v make_v capable_a of_o immortality_n and_o this_o be_v the_o true_a account_n of_o gregory_n nyssen'_n meaning_n which_o if_o it_o prove_v any_o thing_n prove_v a_o impanation_n rather_o than_o transubstantiation_n p._n but_o hilary_n testimony_n can_v be_v so_o avoid_v who_o say_v that_o we_o as_o true_o eat_v christ_n flesh_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o 124._o he_o be_v true_o incarnate_a and_o that_o we_o be_v to_o judge_n of_o this_o not_o by_o carnal_a reason_n but_o by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n who_o say_v my_o flesh_n be_v meat_n indeed_o and_o my_o blood_n be_v drink_v indeed_o pr._n i_o do_v not_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v hilary_n sense_n but_o yet_o this_o prove_v nothing_o like_o to_o transubstantiation_n for_o it_o amount_v to_o no_o more_o than_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o you_o can_v make_v no_o argument_n from_o hence_o unless_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v present_a unless_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n be_v destroy_v which_o be_v more_o than_o can_v be_v do_v or_o than_o hilary_n imagine_v all_o that_o he_o aim_v
at_o be_v to_o prove_v a_o real_a union_n between_o christ_n and_o his_o people_n that_o christ_n be_v in_o they_o more_o than_o by_o mere_a consent_n and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o lay_v hold_v of_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n my_o flesh_n be_v meat_n indeed_o etc._n etc._n but_o the_o substantial_a change_n of_o the_o bread_n into_o the_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n signify_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n and_o bellarmin_n never_o so_o much_o as_o mention_n hilary_n in_o his_o proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n but_o only_o for_o the_o real_a presence_n but_o i_o must_v add_v something_o more_o viz._n that_o hilary_n be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o who_o draw_v any_o argument_n from_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o john_n 6._o i_o do_v not_o say_v who_o do_v by_o way_n of_o accommodation_n apply_v they_o to_o the_o sacrament_n which_o other_o may_v do_v before_o he_o but_o yet_o there_o be_v some_o of_o the_o elder_a father_n who_o do_v whole_o exclude_v a_o literal_a sense_n as_o tertullian_n look_v on_o it_o as_o a_o absurdity_n levit._n that_o christ_n shall_v be_v think_v true_o to_o give_v his_o flesh_n to_o eat_v quasi_fw-la veer_fw-la carnem_fw-la svam_fw-la illis_fw-la edendam_fw-la determinasset_fw-la and_o origen_n say_v it_o be_v a_o kill_a letter_n if_o those_o word_n be_v literal_o understand_v but_o this_o be_v to_o run_v into_o another_o debate_n whereas_o our_o business_n be_v about_o transubstantiation_n if_o you_o have_v any_o more_o let_v we_o now_o examine_v their_o testimony_n p._n what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o st._n ambrose_n who_o speak_v home_o to_o the_o business_n for_o he_o make_v the_o change_n to_o be_v above_o nature_n 9_o and_o into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n there_o be_v long_a citation_n out_o of_o he_o but_o in_o these_o word_n lie_v the_o whole_a strength_n of_o they_o pr._n i_o answer_v several_a thing_n for_o clear_v of_o his_o meaning_n 1._o that_o st._n ambrose_n do_v parallel_v the_o change_n in_o the_o eucharist_n with_o that_o in_o baptism_n and_o to_o prove_v regeneration_n therein_o he_o argue_v from_o the_o miraculous_a conception_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o womb_n of_o the_o virgin_n but_o in_o baptism_n no_o body_n suppose_v 3._o the_o substance_n of_o the_o water_n to_o be_v take_v away_o and_o therefore_o it_o can_v hold_v as_o to_o the_o other_o from_o the_o supernatural_a change_n which_o may_v be_v only_o with_o respect_n to_o such_o a_o divine_a influence_n which_o it_o have_v not_o before_o consecration_n 2._o he_o do_v purposely_o talk_v obscure_o and_o mystical_o about_o this_o matter_n as_o the_o father_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v to_o those_o who_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o these_o mystery_n sometime_o one_o will_v think_v he_o mean_v that_o the_o element_n be_v change_v into_o christ_n individual_a body_n bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n and_o yet_o present_o after_o he_o distinguish_v between_o the_o true_a flesh_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v crucify_v and_o bury_v and_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o flesh._n if_o this_o be_v the_o same_o what_o need_v any_o distinction_n and_o that_o this_o sacramentum_fw-la carnis_fw-la be_v mean_v of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v plain_a by_o what_o follow_v for_o he_o cite_v christ_n word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n 3._o he_o best_o explain_v his_o own_o meaning_n when_o he_o say_v not_o long_o after_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o spiritual_a body_n or_o a_o body_n produce_v by_o the_o divine_a spirit_n and_o so_o he_o parallel_v it_o with_o that_o spiritual_a food_n which_o the_o israelite_n do_v eat_v in_o the_o wilderness_n and_o no_o man_n will_v say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o manna_n be_v then_o lose_v and_o since_o your_o author_n make_v the_o same_o st._n ambrose_n to_o have_v write_v the_o book_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la there_o be_v a_o notable_a passage_n therein_o which_o help_v to_o explain_v this_o for_o there_o he_o say_v express_o non_fw-la iste_fw-la 4._o panis_n est_fw-la qui_fw-la vadit_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la sed_fw-la ille_fw-la panis_n vitoe_n eternoe_n qui_fw-la animoe_v nostroe_v substantiam_fw-la fulcit_fw-la it_o be_v not_o the_o bread_n which_o pass_v into_o the_o body_n but_o the_o bread_n of_o eternal_a life_n which_o strengthen_v the_o substance_n of_o our_o soul._n where_o he_o not_o only_o call_v it_o bread_n after_o consecration_n which_o go_v to_o our_o nourishment_n but_o he_o distinguish_v it_o from_o the_o bread_n of_o eternal_a life_n which_o support_v the_o soul_n which_o must_v be_v understand_v of_o divine_a grace_n and_o not_o of_o any_o bodily_a substance_n p._n i_o perceive_v you_o will_v not_o leave_v we_o one_o father_n of_o the_o whole_a number_n pr._n not_o one_o and_o i_o hope_v this_o give_v a_o incomparable_a advantage_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n in_o point_n of_o tradition_n above_o transubstantiation_n when_o i_o have_v not_o only_o prove_v that_o the_o great_a of_o the_o father_n express_o deny_v it_o but_o that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o in_o the_o whole_a number_n who_o affirm_v it_o for_o although_o there_o be_v some_o difference_n in_o the_o way_n of_o explain_v how_o the_o eucharist_n be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n yet_o not_o one_o of_o they_o hitherto_o produce_v do_v give_v any_o countenance_n to_o your_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n which_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n declare_v to_o have_v be_v the_o constant_a belief_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v as_o little_a ground_n to_o believe_v that_o as_o transubstantiation_n itself_o and_o so_o much_o as_o to_o this_o debate_n concern_v the_o compare_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n and_o transubstantiation_n in_o point_n of_o tradition_n if_o you_o have_v any_o thing_n to_o say_v further_o as_o to_o scripture_n and_o reason_n i_o shall_v be_v ready_a to_o give_v you_o satisfaction_n the_o next_o opportunity_n finis_fw-la book_n late_o print_v for_o w._n rogers_n the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n true_o represent_v in_o answer_n to_o a_o book_n entitle_v a_o papist_n misrepresent_v and_o represent_v etc._n etc._n quarto_n three_o edition_n a_o answer_n to_o a_o discourse_n entitle_v papist_n protest_v against_o protestant_a popery_n be_v a_o vindication_n of_o papist_n not_o misrepresent_v by_o protestant_n 4to_n second_o edition_n a_o answer_n to_o the_o amicable_a accommodation_n of_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o representer_n and_o the_o answerer_n quarto_fw-la a_o view_n of_o the_o whole_a controversy_n between_o the_o representer_n and_o the_o answerer_n with_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o representer_n last_o reply_n 4to_fw-la the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n and_o transubstantiation_n compare_v as_o to_o scripture_n reason_n and_o tradition_n in_o a_o new_a dialogue_n between_o a_o protestant_n and_o a_o papist_n the_o first_o part_n wherein_o a_o answer_n be_v give_v to_o the_o late_a proof_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o book_n call_v consensus_fw-la veterum_fw-la and_o nubes_fw-la testium_fw-la etc._n etc._n quarto_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n and_o transubstantiation_n compare_v as_o to_o scripture_n reason_n and_o tradition_n in_o a_o new_a dialogue_n between_o a_o protestant_n and_o a_o papist_n the_o second_o part_n wherein_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v show_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o scripture_n and_o reason_n and_o transubstantiation_n repugnant_a to_o both_o quarto_fw-la a_o discourse_n concern_v the_o nature_n of_o idolatry_n in_o which_o the_o bishop_n of_o oxford_n true_a and_o only_a notion_n of_o idolatry_n be_v consider_v and_o confute_v 4to_fw-la the_o absolute_a impossibility_n of_o transubstantiation_n demonstrate_v 4to_fw-la a_o letter_n to_o the_o superior_n whether_o bishop_n or_o priest_n which_o approve_v or_o licence_n the_o popish_a book_n in_o england_n particular_o to_o those_o of_o the_o jesuit_n order_n concern_v lewis_n sabran_n a_o jesuit_n a_o preservative_n against_o popery_n be_v some_o plain_a direction_n to_o unlearned_a protestant_n how_o to_o dispute_v with_o romish_a priest_n the_o first_o part._n the_o four_o edition_n the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o preservative_n against_o popery_n show_v how_o contrary_a popery_n be_v to_o the_o true_a end_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n fit_v for_o the_o instruction_n of_o unlearned_a protestant_n the_o second_o edition_n a_o vindication_n of_o both_o part_n of_o the_o preservative_n against_o popery_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o cavil_n of_o lewis_n sabran_n jesuit_n a_o discourse_n concern_v the_o nature_n unity_n ae_v communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n wherein_o most_o of_o the_o controversy_n relate_v to_o the_o church_n be_v brief_o and_o plain_o state_v the_o first_o part._n 4to_fw-la these_o four_o last_o by_o william_n sherlock_n d._n d._n master_n of_o the_o temple_n imprimatur_fw-la guil._n needham_n
mention_v the_o heaven_n and_o earth_n but_o only_o intellectual_a being_n angel_n and_o man_n and_o therefore_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o new_a creation_n pr._n a_o mighty_a argument_n indeed_o do_v not_o all_o thing_n comprehend_v the_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o the_o particular_a enumeration_n of_o angel_n by_o several_a denomination_n show_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o another_o creation_n distinct_a from_o that_o by_o the_o gospel_n preach_v to_o the_o world_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v christ_n instrument_n in_o this_o new_a creation_n which_o they_o can_v not_o be_v to_o the_o invisible_a power_n above_o p._n we_o have_v now_o go_v through_o the_o true_a and_o only_a ground_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n pr._n you_o be_v extreme_o mistake_v for_o we_o have_v other_o ground_n beside_o these_o although_o these_o may_v be_v sufficient_a p._n name_n one_o more_o pr._n i_o will_v name_v several_a which_o you_o can_v disallow_v p._n what_o be_v they_o pr._n the_o several_a head_n of_o argument_n make_v use_v of_o by_o cardinal_n bellarmin_n to_o prove_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n who_o alone_o be_v a_o convince_a evidence_n of_o the_o vast_a disparity_n between_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o doctrine_n and_o of_o transubstantiation_n from_o scripture_n for_o 1._o he_o prove_v christ_n divinity_n from_o those_o place_n of_o etc._n the_o old_a testament_n which_o be_v expound_v in_o the_o new_a be_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n speak_v of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o in_o the_o new_a apply_v to_o christ._n as_o numb_a 21._o 5_o 6._o compare_v with_o 1_o cor._n 10._o 9_o exod._n 20._o 2._o with_o judas_n 5._o psal._n 68_o 18._o with_o eph._n 4._o 8_o 9_o psal._n 97._o 7._o &_o 102._o 25_o 26._o with_o heb._n 1._o 6_o 10_o 11._o isa._n 6._o 1_o 3._o with_o john_n 12._o 41._o and_o revel_v 4._o 8._o isa._n 8._o 14._o with_o luke_n 2._o 34._o and_o rom._n 9_o 33._o isa._n 40._o 3._o with_o mat._n 3._o 3_o mark_v 1._o 3._o luke_n 1._o 76._o john_n 1._o 23._o isa._n 45._o 23._o with_o rom._n 14._o 11._o isa._n 44._o 6._o with_o revel_n 1._o 8_o 17._o mal._n 3._o 1._o with_o mat._n 11._o 10._o 2._o from_o the_o place_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o attribute_n to_o christ_n those_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o god_n as_o power_n and_o adoration_n psal._n 2._o 7_o 8_o 12._o be_v the_o first_o and_o last_o isa._n 48._o 1._o 12_o 16._o work_v miracle_n isa._n 35._o 5._o be_v the_o god_n of_o israel_n isa._n 52._o 5_o 6._o the_o only_a god_n isa._n 45._o 5_o 6._o the_o lord_n of_o host_n zach._n 2._o 8_o 9_o 10_o 11._o jehovah_n zach._n 3._o 2._o pour_v out_o of_o the_o spirit_n zach._n 12._o 10._o 3._o from_o the_o place_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o attribute_n divinity_n to_o christ._n as_o when_o he_o be_v call_v the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n mat._n 16._o 16._o the_o only_o beget_v son_n of_o god_n john_n 3._o 16._o his_o own_o son_n rom._n 8._o 32._o his_o true_a son_n 1_o joh._n 5._o 20._o his_o dear_a son_n col._n 1._o 13._o his_o son_n above_o all_o other_o heb._n 1._o 5._o the_o express_a image_n of_o his_o person_n heb._n 1._o 3._o make_v himself_o equal_a with_o god_n john_n 5._o 18._o be_v one_o with_o the_o father_n joh._n 10._o 30._o lord_n and_o god_n john_n 20._o 28._o god_n bless_v for_o ever_o rom._n 9_o 5._o who_o think_v it_o no_o robbery_n to_o be_v equal_a with_o god_n phil._n 2._o 6._o one_o with_o the_o father_n and_o spirit_n 1_o john_n 5._o 7._o the_o true_a god_n 1_o john_n 5._o 20._o 4._o from_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o god_n isa._n 9_o 6._o john_n 20._o 28._o act_n 20._o 28._o rom._n 9_o 5._o revel_v 4._o 8._o 1_o john_n 3._o 16._o the_o name_n jehouâ—â—_n jer._n 23._o 5_o 8._o isa._n 40._o 3._o the_o lord_n by_o which_o the_o lxx_o render_v jehovah_n mat._n 21._o 3._o joh._n 13._o 13._o the_o most_o high_a psal._n 87._o 5._o a_o name_n above_o every_o name_n phil._n 2._o 9_o the_o invisible_a one_o 1_o tim._n 1._o 17_o &_o 6._o 16._o the_o god_n of_o glory_n act._n 7._o 2._o 1_o cor._n 2._o 8._o psal._n 24._o 7_o 8_o 9_o king_n of_o king_n and_o lord_n of_o lord_n 1_o tim._n 6._o 15._o revel_v 17._o 14._o &_o 19_o 16._o the_o one_o lord_n 1_o cor._n 8._o 6._o the_o true_a god_n john_n 5._o 20._o the_o only_a lord_n jud._n 4._o the_o great_a god_n and_o our_o saviour_n titus_n 2._o 13._o 5._o from_o the_o proper_a attribute_n of_o god_n as_o eternity_n prov._n 8._o 22_o 23._o mic._n 5_o 2._o joh._n 1._o 1_o 17._o 5._o immensity_n john_n 3._o 13._o mat._n 18._o 20._o omnipotency_n rev._n 1._o 8._o 4._o 8._o 11._o 17._o wisdom_n colos._n 2._o 3._o joh._n 21._o 17._o majesty_n and_o adoration_n heb._n 1._o 6._o mal._n 3._o 1._o invocation_n joh._n 14._o 13._o act_n 7._o 59_o &_o 9_o 14._o 2_o cor._n 12._o 8._o 1_o cor._n 1._o 3._o 2_o joh._n 3._o 6._o from_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o god_n as_o not_o only_a creation_n of_o which_o already_o but_o conservation_n heb._n 1._o 3._o colos._n 1._o 17._o salvation_n matth._n 1._o 21._o foretell_v future_a event_n joh._n 13._o 19_o 1_o pet._n 1._o 11._o rev._n 2._o 23._o work_v miracle_n by_o his_o own_o power_n mark._n 4._o 39_o and_o give_v power_n to_o other_o to_o work_v they_o mat._n 10._o 1._o what_o think_v you_o now_o of_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o trinity_n in_o scripture_n do_v you_o think_v bellarmin_n can_v produce_v any_o thing_n like_o this_o for_o transubstantiation_n no_o so_o far_o from_o it_o that_o where_o he_o set_v himself_o in_o a_o whole_a chapter_n to_o prove_v it_o from_o scripture_n he_o produce_v a_o first_o without_o a_o second_o the_o 19_o first_o argument_n say_v he_o be_v take_v from_o christ_n word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n very_o well_o but_o where_o be_v the_o second_o for_o no_o more_o can_v be_v produce_v but_o this_o one_o single_a passage_n about_o which_o he_o spend_v his_o whole_a chapter_n and_o then_o betake_v himself_o present_o to_o the_o father_n p._n but_o one_o plain_a and_o clear_a place_n be_v sufficient_a if_o we_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o sense_n of_o that_o one_o for_o we_o be_v as_o much_o bind_v to_o believe_v god_n when_o we_o be_v sure_o he_o speak_v it_o once_o as_o a_o hundred_o time_n pr._n we_o have_v be_v all_o this_o while_n compare_v these_o two_o doctrine_n as_o to_o scripture_n and_o now_o you_o see_v the_o disproportion_n so_o very_o great_a as_o to_o number_n and_o variety_n you_o say_v one_o be_v as_o good_a as_o a_o hundred_o but_o that_o one_o have_v need_v to_o be_v wonderful_o clear_a which_o this_o be_v very_o far_o from_o since_o many_o of_o your_o own_o writer_n do_v confess_v transubstantiation_n can_v be_v draw_v from_o it_o as_o bellarmin_n himself_o own_v and_o he_o affirm_v it_o not_o to_o be_v improbable_a that_o no_o place_n of_o scripture_n be_v so_o clear_a 23._o and_o express_v for_o transubstantiation_n but_o learned_a and_o acute_a man_n may_v doubt_v whether_o it_o can_v be_v draw_v from_o it_o setting_z aside_o the_o church_n declaration_n but_o neither_o bellarmin_n nor_o any_o one_o who_o attend_v to_o the_o force_n of_o the_o former_a proof_n of_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n can_v say_v that_o any_o reasonable_a man_n can_v doubt_v of_o it_o and_o that_o he_o must_v at_o last_o resolve_v all_o into_o the_o church_n authority_n p._n have_v not_o learned_a and_o acute_a man_n doubt_v of_o the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n as_o of_o transubstantiation_n and_o therefore_o in_o that_o respect_n they_o be_v both_o alike_o pr._n we_o do_v not_o insist_v upon_o man_n bare_a doubt_n but_o on_o the_o reason_n of_o their_o doubt_n and_o when_o but_o one_o single_a place_n be_v produce_v which_o be_v yield_v not_o to_o be_v sufficient_a of_o itself_o to_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n there_o be_v much_o more_o cause_n of_o doubt_v than_o where_o such_o multitude_n of_o place_n be_v produce_v and_o no_o doubt_n be_v make_v by_o those_o who_o favour_n transubstantiation_n but_o that_o they_o do_v full_o prove_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ._n p._n it_o seem_v than_o we_o must_v come_v to_o reason_n at_o last_o and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o must_v tell_v you_o ay_o i_o think_v that_o parallel_n much_o the_o easy_a for_o that_o three_o distinct_a person_n shall_v be_v in_o one_o individual_a nature_n and_o that_o the_o most_o pure_a and_o simple_a be_v seem_v to_o i_o to_o be_v more_o absurd_a than_o transubstantiation_n pr._n let_v we_o set_v aside_o the_o compare_v absurdity_n at_o present_a and_o only_o examine_v in_o point_n of_o reason_n the_o great_a absurdity_n of_o three_o person_n be_v in_o one_o individual_a divine_a nature_n p._n i_o do_v hardly_o believe_v you_o will_v have_v