Selected quad for the lemma: sense_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
sense_n father_n son_n substance_n 1,728 5 9.0864 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A51484 A peaceable method for the re-uniting Protestants and Catholicks in matters of faith principally in the subject of the Holy Eucharist : proceeding upon principles agreed-on and waving points in dispute : upon occasion of the late conceit concerning the perpetuity of faith touching that great mystery / written in French by Lewis Mainbourg. Maimbourg, Louis, 1610-1686.; T. W. 1672 (1672) Wing M293; ESTC R26797 72,644 198

There are 7 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

these_o day_n ought_v to_o stick_v to_o the_o decision_n of_o their_o church_n in_o matter_n contest_v between_o they_o and_o we_o because_o they_o own_v she_o for_o the_o true_a church_n but_o i_o think_v it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o hard_a to_o discover_v a_o great_a difference_n for_o make_v up_o to_o the_o head_n or_o source_n of_o the_o decision_n we_o shall_v find_v those_o who_o first_o raise_v the_o doubt_n and_o bring_v these_o point_n into_o debate_n be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n which_o be_v according_o the_o true_a because_o the_o only_a church_n and_o own_a for_o such_o by_o both_o party_n before_o she_o declare_v herself_o upon_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n which_o without_o trouble_n we_o be_v agree_v upon_o with_o mounseur_fw-fr claude_n the_o case_n be_v not_o here_o so_o because_o we_o who_o be_v at_o dispute_n with_o protestant_n be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o church_n with_o they_o and_o so_o be_v not_o within_o the_o limit_n of_o thy_o maxim_n which_o have_v with_o mutual_a corsent_a be_v establish_v and_o receive_v again_o they_o have_v take_v part_n with_o those_o who_o at_o that_o time_n revolt_v from_o the_o true_a church_n because_o they_o will_v not_o obey_v her_o decree_n make_v by_o canonical_a judgement_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o their_o community_n be_v but_o a_o false_a and_o schismatical_a church_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n receive_v from_o they_o in_o the_o synod_n of_o dort_n 3._o second_o the_o church_n before_o she_o give_v sentence_n upon_o any_o point_n propose_v examine_v it_o by_o scripture_n and_o real_a tradition_n and_o for_o the_o better_a understanding_n they_o search_v into_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o ancient_a holy_a father_n endeavour_v thus_o to_o reascend_v unto_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o we_o be_v from_o hence_o to_o conclude_v that_o she_o be_v inspire_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o have_v promise_v to_o teach_v she_o all_o truth_n as_o occasion_n require_v what_o she_o define_v be_v always_o conformable_a both_o to_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n thus_o it_o be_v that_o we_o be_v to_o learn_v by_o her_o definition_n what_o be_v the_o true_a meaning_n or_o sense_n of_o scripture_n when_o there_o be_v place_n for_o doubt_v thereof_o before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a there_o be_v most_o desperate_a dispute_n concern_v certain_a passage_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o follower_n of_o arius_n allege_v for_o the_o uphold_v their_o upstart_n doctrine_n as_o for_o example_n about_o that_o in_o the_o five_o of_o st._n john_n where_o our_o bless_a saviour_n say_v that_o his_o father_n be_v great_a than_o he_o 5._o quia_fw-la pater_fw-la major_a i_o est_fw-la joh._n 5._o from_o whence_o they_o infer_v that_o he_o be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o substance_n the_o other_o on_o the_o contrary_a maintain_v that_o this_o passage_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n consider_v according_a to_o humane_a nature_n which_o place_v he_o infinite_o below_o the_o father_n and_o make_v he_o submit_v even_o to_o the_o death_n of_o the_o cross_n but_o not_o according_a to_o his_o divine_a nature_n which_o render_v he_o equal_a and_o make_v they_o both_o to_o be_v of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o substance_n these_o two_o sense_n be_v hot_o maintain_v by_o the_o two_o parry_n each_o of_o they_o challenge_v the_o true_a sense_n or_o meaning_n of_o scripture_n on_o their_o side_n but_o when_o the_o council_n have_v thorough_o examine_v this_o important_a question_n have_v define_v the_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o word_n make_v use_n of_o a_o term_n which_o be_v not_o find_v in_o holy_a writ_n for_o the_o clear_a express_v that_o truth_n which_o she_o discover_v there_o then_o be_v there_o no_o more_o time_n nor_o place_n to_o doubt_v what_o be_v the_o lawful_a sense_n thereof_o and_o there_o arise_v a_o obligation_n through_o this_o definition_n of_o believe_v that_o that_o be_v the_o true_a one_o which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o divine_n who_o oppose_v the_o faction_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o same_o be_v certain_o to_o be_v say_v upon_o this_o occasion_n especial_o our_o present_a cause_n be_v upon_o much_o better_a termy_n and_o more_o strong_o provide_v for_o by_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o text_n allege_v for_o it_o when_o at_o first_o the_o poposition_n be_v make_v concern_v the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o time_n of_o pascasius_fw-la as_o mr._n claude_n pretend_v and_o present_o opposition_n be_v make_v as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o say_v for_o at_o present_a we_o will_v assume_v nothing_o but_o of_o his_o free_a gift_n there_o happen_v a_o great_a contest_v which_o grow_v yet_o much_o great_a after_o some_o time_n concern_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o those_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n one_o side_n maintain_v that_o they_o do_v express_v a_o real_a presence_n and_o the_o other_o pretend_v that_o they_o only_o signify_v that_o that_o which_o our_o bless_a saviour_n give_v unto_o his_o apostle_n represent_v his_o body_n both_o party_n as_o we_o have_v often_o take_v notice_n be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n which_o they_o acknowledge_v and_o own_a to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n this_o church_n have_v thorough_o examine_v the_o business_n in_o her_o general_n council_n define_v a_o real_a presence_n and_o substantial_a change_n even_o to_o the_o make_v use_n of_o the_o word_n transubstantiation_n which_o be_v not_o literal_o find_v in_o the_o gospel_n for_o the_o express_v more_o clear_o that_o verity_n which_o she_o discover_v therein_o and_o for_o the_o efficacious_a obstruct_v any_o other_o sense_n which_o may_v be_v give_v to_o those_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n from_o that_o time_n forward_o it_o be_v no_o long_o lawful_a to_o doubt_v of_o the_o sense_n of_o they_o and_o by_o this_o definition_n man_n stand_v oblige_v to_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v plain_o and_o literal_o not_o metaphorical_o when_o there_o be_v real_o place_n of_o doubt_n it_o be_v not_o for_o particular_a person_n who_o be_v at_o strife_n to_o determine_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o text_n in_o dispute_n but_o this_o belong_v proper_o to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v judge_n in_o the_o case_n for_o else_o there_o can_v never_o be_v any_o end_n of_o dispute_n and_o god_n shall_v not_o have_v furnish_v we_o with_o any_o certain_a mean_n for_o the_o find_v out_o truth_n when_o doubt_n do_v arise_v concern_v holy_a scripture_n nor_o consequent_o for_o the_o clear_n those_o debate_n which_o may_v arise_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o certain_o will_v be_v the_o same_o as_o to_o say_v that_o he_o have_v not_o provide_v for_o the_o government_n quiet_a and_o peace_n of_o his_o church_n penul_v non_fw-la quia_fw-la canon_n solus_fw-la non_fw-la sibi_fw-la ad_fw-la universa_fw-la sufficiat_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la verba_fw-la divina_fw-la pro_fw-la svo_fw-la quique_fw-la arbitratu_fw-la interpretantes_fw-la varias_fw-la opiniones_fw-la errorèsque_fw-la concipiant_fw-la atque_fw-la ideo_fw-la necesse_fw-la fit_a ut_fw-la ad_fw-la unam_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la sensus_fw-la regulam_fw-la scriptueae_fw-la caelestis_fw-la intelligentiae_fw-la dirigatur_fw-la common_n 2._o c._n antep_n cap._n penul_v it_o be_v not_o as_o vincentius_n lirientius_n say_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o contain_v all_o the_o verity_n which_o we_o believe_v but_o because_o many_o presume_v to_o interpret_v the_o holy_a text_n according_a to_o their_o fancy_n mishap_n their_o error_n according_o thus_o it_o become_v necessary_a upon_o such_o occurence_n to_o regulate_v the_o sense_n we_o be_v to_o give_v to_o holy_a scripture_n by_o that_o meaning_n which_o the_o holy_a church_n give_v it_o and_o from_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o he_o take_v occasion_n some_o three_o year_n after_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n to_o inveigh_v so_o sharp_o against_o that_o desperate_a presumption_n of_o wicked_a nestorius_n who_o have_v the_o impudence_n to_o maintain_v that_o he_o alone_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o understanding_n those_o text_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o the_o authorise_a his_o impious_a blasphemy_n and_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n represent_v in_o that_o council_n have_v err_v gross_o for_o want_n of_o understand_v they_o thus_o when_o dispute_n arise_v we_o ought_v not_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n by_o that_o sense_n which_o ourselves_o give_v of_o holy_a scripture_n but_o we_o must_v judge_v of_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o holy_a scripture_n by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n the_o same_o in_o proportion_n be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o the_o passage_n of_o holy_a father_n for_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n to_o advise_v with_o they_o concern_v the_o judgement_n she_o be_v to_o give_v regular_o speak_v we_o ought_v to_o understand_v they_o according_a to_o her_o doctrine_n whenever_o these_o arise_v a_o controversy_n concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o their_o word_n which_o do_v not_o always_o
forth_o one_o after_o a_o not_o her_o according_a to_o their_o sundry_a season_n to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o may_v beautify_v and_o adorn_v the_o field_n and_o garden_n it_o be_v a_o heaven_n deck_v with_o a_o infinite_a variety_n of_o glitter_a star_n which_o sparkle_n and_o make_v a_o kind_n of_o day_n in_o spite_n of_o the_o darkness_n of_o night_n but_o their_o glory_n do_v then_o only_o appear_v when_o the_o moon_n have_v by_o little_a and_o little_o dissipate_v the_o vapour_n and_o cloud_n which_o keep_v they_o from_o our_o sight_n even_o so_o the_o word_n of_o god_n comprehend_v all_o vetity_n belong_v to_o faith_n but_o those_o fair_a flower_n do_v not_o appear_v those_o bright_a star_n do_v not_o shine_v to_o the_o eye_n of_o christian_n until_o the_o light_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n illuminate_v his_o church_n do_v by_o itself_o upon_o occasion_n dissipate_v those_o cloud_n which_o hide_v those_o glorious_a star_n from_o our_o eye_n or_o disclose_v and_o bring_v to_o light_v those_o rare_a flower_n by_o consequence_n draw_v out_o of_o certain_a principle_n in_o which_o they_o before_o remain_v as_o it_o be_v shut_v up_o or_o enclose_v 4._o 15._o omnia_fw-la quae_fw-la audivi_fw-la a_o patre_fw-la meo_fw-la nota_fw-la feci_fw-la vobis_fw-la joh._n 15._o this_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o the_o son_n of_o god_n their_o bless_a master_n in_o the_o 15_o of_o s._n john_n tell_v they_o that_o he_o have_v make_v know_v unto_o they_o whatsoever_o he_o have_v learn_v of_o his_o heavenly_a father_n it_o be_v then_o clear_a and_o certain_a that_o he_o instruct_v they_o in_o all_o those_o truth_n which_o be_v of_o faith_n in_o that_o his_o church_n which_o he_o intend_v to_o raise_v and_o establish_v by_o their_o mean_n and_o ministry_n for_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v but_o that_o he_o have_v learn_v they_o of_o his_o eternal_a father_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o the_o last_o of_o st._n luke_n 16._o aperuit_fw-la illis_fw-la sensum_fw-la ut_fw-la intelligerent_fw-la scripturas_fw-la luc._n ult_n adhuc_fw-la multa_fw-la habe●_n vobis_fw-la dicere_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la potestis_fw-la portare_fw-la modò_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n docebit_fw-la vos_fw-la omnem_fw-la veritatem_fw-la john_n 16._o after_o his_o resurrection_n we_o find_v he_o open_v their_o understanding_n that_o they_o may_v be_v capable_a of_o the_o sense_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o mystery_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v comprise_v therein_o nay_o he_o further_o tell_v they_o that_o he_o have_v yet_o many_o thing_n to_o say_v unto_o they_o of_o which_o they_o be_v not_o yet_o capable_a and_o he_o add_v for_o their_o comfort_n that_o that_o holy_a ghost_n who_o he_o will_v send_v short_o unto_o they_o shall_v instruct_v they_o in_o all_o matter_n of_o truth_n how_o i_o pray_v be_v th●●_n make_v good_a that_o he_o have_v tell_v they_o all_o and_o yet_o that_o there_o remain_v much_o to_o be_v tell_v and_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v tell_v they_o for_o he_o teach_v and_o instruct_v they_o in_o all_o matter_n of_o truth_n how_o shall_v we_o make_v this_o out_o i_o think_v it_o may_v be_v do_v with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o ease_n the_o meaning_n be_v that_o he_o tell_v they_o all_o 〈◊〉_d general_a and_o in_o certain_a principle_n of_o h●●_n gospel_n which_o comprehend_v all_o and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n instruct_v they_o clear_o and_o distinct_o concern_v the_o sense_n an●_n meaning_n of_o those_o principle_n and_o in_o the_o consequence_n which_o they_o be_v to_o draw_v from_o those_o principle_n of_o which_o they_o be_v ignorant_a before_o and_o for_o this_o cause_n it_o be_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v by_o holy_a father_n '_o called_z the_o interpreter_n or_o voice_n of_o the_o son_n ari●_n basil_n 5._o cont_n eunom_fw-la marc_n vict._n 3._o cont_n ari●_n because_o a_o interpreter_n speak_v nothing_o of_o himself_o but_o only_o set_v forth_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o text_n the_o sense_n whereof_o his_o task_n be_v to_o explain_v and_o by_o a_o new_a light_n to_o discover_v those_o hide_a verity_n which_o may_v be_v draw_v from_o it_o so_o the_o holy_a ghost_n teach_v the_o apostle_n no_o new_a thing_n nor_o speak_v of_o himself_o as_o instruct_v they_o in_o a_o new_a doctrine_n but_o do_v only_o make_v they_o understand_v distinct_o and_o in_o particular_a such_o thing_n as_o our_o '_o bless_v saviour_n have_v tell_v they_o in_o general_a term_n 16._o non_fw-la enim_fw-la loquetur_fw-la a_o semetipso_fw-la sed_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la audierit_fw-la loquetur_fw-la john_n 16._o and_o lay_v open_a unto_o they_o those_o verity_n which_o before_o lie_v undiscovered_a under_o those_o principle_n from_o whence_o he_o deduce_v they_o by_o such_o consequence_n as_o he_o make_v they_o capable_a of_o and_o by_o a_o accession_n of_o new_a sight_n which_o before_o be_v not_o in_o they_o we_o may_v add_v yet_o more_o that_o it_o can_v be_v with_o truth_n say_v that_o the_o apostle_n even_o after_o the_o come_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v from_o the_o beginning_n all_o that_o clear_a and_o discern_a knowledge_n of_o all_o those_o truth_n which_o they_o come_v to_o know_v afterward_o in_o their_o particular_a circumstance_n and_o upon_o emergent_a occurrence_n unto_o which_o he_o defer_v their_o more_o ample_a instruction_n for_o in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n we_o see_v s._n peter_n question_v whether_o the_o gospel_n be_v to_o be_v preach_v to_o the_o gentile_n 15._o ch._n 10._o in_o veritate_fw-la comperi_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la personarum_fw-la acceptor_n deus_fw-la visam_fw-la est_fw-la spiritui_fw-la sanct●_n &_o nobis_fw-la act_n 15._o he_o be_v instruct_v from_o heaven_n that_o that_o favour_n be_v for_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o he_o learn_v that_o god_n who_o have_v no_o regard_n to_o person_n nor_o quality_n no●_n country_n make_v no_o distinction_n as_o 〈◊〉_d that_o blessing_n between_o jew_n and_o pagan●_n we_o know_v also_o how_o the_o apostle_n meet_v a●_n jerusalem_n to_o deliberate_v concern_v th●_n observation_n of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o th●_n law_n and_o that_o they_o decree_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o the●_n be_v no_o far_a obligation_n to_o observe_v they_o 22._o quis_fw-la enim_fw-la integrae_fw-la mentis_fw-la credere_fw-la potest_fw-la aliquid_fw-la eos_fw-la ignorasse_fw-la quos_fw-la magistros_fw-la dominus_fw-la dedit_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o prescript_n c._n 22._o except_v only_o some_o very_a few_o particular_n 5._o notwithstanding_o i_o do_v frank_o avouch_v what_o protestant_n with_o tertullian_n against_o some_o ancient_a heretic_n 〈◊〉_d maintain_v that_o at_o what_o time_n soever_o the_o apostle_n do_v receive_v the_o full_a perfect_a on_o of_o that_o knowledge_n which_o they_o have_v o●_n christian_n verity_n it_o be_v complete_a 〈◊〉_d to_o all_o thing_n belong_v to_o faith_n and_o that_o we_o know_v not_o nor_o ever_o shall_v know_v any_o thing_n in_o those_o matter_n which_o they_o know_v not_o better_a than_o we_o they_o be_v the_o master_n appoint_v by_o our_o bless_a saviour_n 1._o state_n ac_fw-la tenete_fw-la traditiones_fw-la quas_fw-la didicistis_fw-la five_o per_fw-la sermonem_fw-la five_o per_fw-la epistolam_fw-la 2_o thess_n 2._o si_fw-mi in_o alique_fw-la nutaverit_fw-la veritas_fw-la ad_fw-la originem_fw-la evangelicam_fw-la &_o apostolicam_fw-la traditionem_fw-la revertamur_fw-la cypr._n ep._n 74_o edit_n pamel_n item_n aug._n l._n 5._o the_o bapt_a count_v donatist_n a_o castro_n verbo_fw-la apost_n heres_fw-la 1._o through_o who_o mean_n the_o world_n be_v to_o receive_v his_o celestial_a doctrine_n i_o do_v consequent_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o do_v leave_v it_o to_o their_o disciple_n either_o in_o write_v or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o that_o when_o it_o happen_v that_o man_n be_v divide_v in_o their_o opinion_n and_o doubt_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o or_o that_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o rule_n to_o the_o head_n or_o fountain_n which_o be_v that_o word_n of_o god_n which_o we_o have_v in_o holy_a scripture_n and_o which_o the_o apostle_n have_v leave_v we_o by_o their_o disciple_n have_v first_o receive_v it_o of_o christ_n jesus_n their_o bless_a master_n our_o divine_n will_v easy_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o all_o these_o point_n and_o they_o will_v condemn_v of_o error_n and_o temerity_n and_o of_o folly_n also_o if_o they_o please_v the_o abbot_n joachim_n and_o that_o other_o visionary_a who_o be_v so_o bold_a as_o to_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o do_v not_o comprehend_v the_o spiritual_a sense_n of_o the_o gospel_n the_o true_a understanding_n whereof_o be_v reserve_v for_o some_o other_o in_o after_o time_n such_o extravagancy_n as_o these_o can_v not_o be_v reject_v by_o they_o with_o more_o e●gerness_n than_o they_o be_v by_o our_o doctor_n also_o this_o notwithstanding_o it_o may_v ve●_n well_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o d●late_v themselves_o in_o the_o
perceive_v no_o great_a advantage_n get_v by_o the_o contest_v have_v find_v himself_o in_o a_o waver_a condition_n and_o have_v think_v it_o not_o unreasonable_a to_o begin_v to_o call_v that_o now_o in_o question_n of_o which_o before_o he_o make_v no_o doubt_n at_o all_o this_o be_v the_o very_a reason_n why_o this_o learned_a man_n conclude_v 18._o ergo_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la scripturas_fw-la provoc_n andum_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o his_o constituendum_fw-la est_fw-la certamen_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la aut_fw-la nulla_fw-la a_o ut_fw-la incerta_fw-la victoria_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la par_fw-fr incertae_fw-la c._n 18._o that_o the_o most_o compendious_a and_o the_o most_o ready_a way_n for_o the_o reduce_v such_o kind_n of_o spirit_n into_o peace_n and_o unity_n be_v not_o that_o way_n which_o for_o the_o most_o part_n oblige_v they_o to_o a_o continuance_n of_o the_o war_n lest_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v overcome_v i_o mean_v the_o way_n of_o dispute_n and_o even_o that_o which_o be_v manage_v with_o holy_a scripture_n and_o that_o we_o ought_v not_o light_o to_o engage_v in_o those_o way_n or_o matter_n where_o there_o be_v little_a to_o be_v get_v and_o where_o the_o victory_n appear_v uncertain_a and_o doubtful_a at_o least_o to_o those_o of_o mean_a capacity_n even_o then_o when_o to_o the_o wise_a sort_n it_o appear_v most_o evident_a on_o the_o sound_a party_n side_n 3._o this_o be_v that_o which_o make_v he_o lay_v aside_o all_o particular_a controversy_n concern_v all_o those_o point_n which_o may_v be_v make_v out_o by_o scripture_n and_o in_o that_o his_o excellent_a book_n of_o prescription_n to_o fall_v upon_o certain_a general_a maxim_n which_o be_v rule_n and_o principle_n agree_v upon_o on_o all_o side_n and_o from_o whence_o certain_a necessary_a consequence_n which_o do_v most_o natural_o flow_v from_o they_o be_v well_o apply_v do_v convince_v all_o man_n of_o reasonable_a understanding_n without_o either_o dispute_n or_o reply_n and_o by_o a_o short_a and_o more_o certain_a way_n lead_v they_o sweet_o to_o a_o desire_a unity_n he_o call_v they_o prescription_n marc_n adversus_fw-la haereticos_fw-la etiam_fw-la sine_fw-la retractatu_fw-la verborum_fw-la revincendos_fw-la l._n 1._o contra_fw-la marc_n make_v use_n according_a to_o his_o custom_n of_o a_o term_n of_o law_n in_o the_o knowledge_n whereof_o he_o have_v arrive_v to_o great_a perfection_n and_o he_o make_v use_v particular_o of_o this_o term_n upon_o this_o occasion_n because_o it_o import_v in_o its_o signification_n a_o total_a defeat_n and_o solid_a conviction_n of_o falsity_n according_a to_o such_o certain_a and_o undeniable_a principle_n of_o which_o there_o have_v be_v a_o constant_a possession_n in_o all_o age_n by_o a_o due_a application_n whereof_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o discover_v and_o overthrow_v error_n without_o be_v oblige_v to_o attack_v it_o with_o any_o other_o weapon_n or_o refute_v it_o by_o particular_a argument_n 4._o this_o seem_v to_o i_o the_o only_a mean_n to_o end_v this_o endless_a war_n to_o bring_v the_o business_n home_o to_o some_o one_o of_o those_o principle_n which_o be_v receive_v and_o allow_v of_o on_o both_o side_n and_o be_v agree_v upon_o as_o the_o chief_a rule_n for_o decide_v all_o our_o difference_n without_o this_o we_o shall_v hardly_o ever_o come_v to_o any_o agreement_n if_o we_o be_v still_o resolve_v to_o dispute_v the_o business_n as_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o do_v when_o a_o resolution_n be_v already_o take_v never_o to_o yield_v and_o after_o tedious_a contest_v and_o large_a volume_n which_o almost_o equal_o tire_v the_o patience_n of_o both_o author_n and_o reader_n the_o business_n will_v be_v find_v always_o in_o the_o same_o posture_n it_o be_v at_o first_o in_o as_o the_o better_a side_n have_v reason_n to_o take_v satisfaction_n in_o the_o advantage_n obtain_v 18._o haec_fw-la utique_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la habent_fw-la in_o nos_fw-la retorquere_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o illos_fw-la dicere_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la potiùs_fw-la adulteria_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la &_o expositionum_fw-la mendacia_fw-la inierri_fw-la qui_fw-la proinde_fw-la sibi_fw-la defendant_n veritatem_fw-la c._n 18._o so_o the_o weak_a say_v tertullian_n attribute_n unto_o itself_o the_o selfsame_a glory_n and_o will_v fain_o seem_v victorious_a that_o which_o the_o one_o do_v most_o just_o in_o exprobate_v falsity_n and_o error_n unto_o his_o adversary_n the_o other_o think_v most_o unjust_o do_v and_o declare_v against_o it_o truth_n which_o only_o have_v reason_n to_o use_v such_o language_n find_v itself_o set_v upon_o afresh_o even_o after_o victory_n and_o falsity_n which_o disguise_v itself_o under_o the_o name_n of_o verity_n and_o usurp_v her_o right_n begin_v again_o to_o fight_v she_o at_o her_o own_o weapon_n utter_v the_o same_o or_o like_a reproach_n against_o she_o 5._o this_o appear_v particular_o in_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o protestant_a party_n who_o upon_o their_o separation_n from_o we_o think_v good_a to_o accuse_v we_o of_o error_n and_o novelty_n it_o be_v scarce_o to_o be_v believe_v how_o many_o set_a disputation_n and_o conference_n there_o have_v be_v hold_v both_o in_o public_a and_o in_o private_a concern_v point_n in_o question_n between_o we_o the_o number_n of_o those_o volume_n which_o have_v be_v write_v concern_v those_o subject_n will_v serve_v to_o fill_v whole_a liberaries_n what_o passage_n have_v not_o bellarmin_n perron_n coëffeteau_n richelieu_n and_o those_o other_o famous_a defender_n of_o the_o faith_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o ancient_a father_n together_o with_o all_o the_o reason_n and_o argument_n which_o may_v serve_v to_o place_n truth_n again_o in_o its_o proper_a light_n and_o restore_v unto_o it_o the_o lustre_n which_o falsity_n have_v endeavour_v to_o rob_v she_o of_o i_o speak_v this_o because_o for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o be_o high_o satisfy_v that_o the_o proof_n which_o these_o great_a man_n have_v make_v use_n of_o be_v of_o very_o great_a force_n and_o their_o discourse_n very_o exact_a and_o convince_a and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n owe_v much_o unto_o they_o for_o their_o labour_n and_o industry_n in_o maintain_v her_o just_a decree_n i_o will_v add_v something_o more_o yet_o i_o have_v so_o good_a a_o opinion_n of_o the_o natural_a ingenuity_n and_o honesty_n of_o many_o of_o the_o most_o sincere_a and_o witty_a person_n of_o the_o protestant_a party_n themselves_o for_o there_o be_v certain_o in_o other_o respect_n many_o excellent_a wit_n and_o learned_a man_n among_o they_o that_o they_o will_v not_o make_v much_o difficulty_n to_o own_o candid_o and_o plain_o that_o the_o reason_n and_o place_n which_o our_o doctor_n have_v allege_v against_o their_o tenet_n have_v put_v they_o very_o much_o to_o it_o and_o that_o they_o have_v need_n enough_o of_o all_o their_o wit_n all_o their_o shift_n and_o all_o their_o industry_n to_o disengage_v themselves_o in_o some_o handsome_a appearance_n at_o least_o from_o such_o strait_n as_o those_o troublesome_a passage_n have_v bring_v they_o into_o and_o now_o as_o i_o have_v take_v the_o freedom_n to_o desire_v they_o to_o deal_v candid_o with_o i_o so_o be_v it_o my_o intention_n to_o be_v plain_a and_o sincere_a with_o they_o and_o to_o yield_v so_o far_o unto_o they_o as_o ingenious_o to_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o those_o answer_n of_o they_o with_o which_o in_o their_o turn_n they_o have_v fill_v large_a volume_n they_o be_v not_o without_o some_o colourable_a pretence_n and_o that_o they_o carry_v such_o a_o appearance_n of_o reason_n with_o they_o as_o may_v easy_o seduce_v the_o understanding_n of_o those_o who_o be_v not_o well_o verse_v in_o dispute_n of_o this_o nature_n nay_o i_o will_v own_o far_o that_o some_o passage_n out_o of_o scripture_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n allege_v by_o they_o against_o we_o have_v oblige_v we_o to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o famouf_a wit_n among_o we_o to_o find_v a_o clear_a and_o natural_a sense_n in_o the_o explication_n of_o they_o which_o have_v not_o be_v of_o efficacy_n to_o hinder_v these_o man_n from_o make_v their_o reply_v that_o they_o may_v still_o still_o seem_v to_o bear_v up_o handsome_o in_o case_n they_o remain_v absolute_o resolve_v not_o to_o yield_v to_o the_o know_a truth_n which_o may_v indeed_o convince_v their_o understanding_n but_o not_o compel_v nor_o force_v their_o will_n thus_o after_o so_o many_o assault_n and_o so_o many_o repulse_n after_o so_o many_o brave_a work_n of_o those_o great_a man_n who_o have_v so_o gallant_o maintain_v the_o church_n cause_n our_o adversary_n will_v not_o at_o all_o own_o themselves_o weaken_v thereby_o and_o as_o they_o make_v themselves_o believe_v they_o have_v by_o their_o answer_n sufficient_o guard_v themselves_o from_o our_o blow_n and_o that_o on_o the_o other_o side_n they_o seem_v to_o please_v themselves_o with_o those_o which_o in_o their_o turn_n they_o imagine_v they_o have_v give_v we_o
protestant_n themselves_o in_o the_o selfsame_a term_n do_v own_o and_o profess_v for_o they_o will_v not_o have_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v a_o mere_a figure_n or_o empty_a sign_n without_o efficacy_n but_o they_o do_v maint_a a●_n that_o it_o do_v communicate_v unto_o we_o in_o a_o most_o real_a and_o most_o effectual_a man_n man_n the_o body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n to_o be_v the_o food_n of_o our_o soul_n 232._o pag._n 232._o and_o mounseur_fw-fr claude_n acknowledge_v that_o before_o this_o pretend_a novelty_n of_o local_a presence_n and_o transubstantion_n be_v introduce_v by_o way_n of_o illustrate_v or_o explain_v the_o matter_n every_o one_o believe_v that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v there_o true_o receive_v by_o the_o faithful_a and_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sign_n and_o a_o memorial_n of_o the_o death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n behold_v here_o i_o think_v the_o same_o word_n i_o myself_o make_v use_v of_o we_o also_o all_o say_v the_o very_a fame_n in_o the_o selfsame_a term_n for_o we_o believe_v that_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sign_n and_o a_o memorial_n of_o the_o death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n that_o he_o be_v there_o present_a and_o that_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v there_o true_o receive_v by_o the_o faithful_a and_o we_o maintain_v that_o this_o have_v always_o be_v hold_v in_o the_o church_n we_o be_v hitherto_o agree_v nothing_o of_o all_o this_o be_v question_v or_o dispute_v between_o monsieur_n arnaud_n and_o monsieur_n claude_n what_o then_o these_o two_o thing_n which_o follow_v 2._o the_o first_o be_v 295._o pag._n 295._o that_o monsieur_n claude_n will_v have_v it_o that_o in_o those_o primitive_a time_n which_o he_o call_v the_o good_a day_n of_o the_o church_n pastor_n be_v careful_a to_o express_v themselves_o clear_o unto_o the_o people_n and_o to_o prevent_v ertor_n in_o their_o understanding_n christian_n be_v perfect_o instruct_v how_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n not_o local_o and_o substantial_o but_o mystical_o and_o that_o they_o be_v receive_v by_o we_o not_o with_o the_o mouth_n of_o flesh_n but_o by_o the_o operation_n of_o faith_n so_o that_o in_o those_o time_n they_o have_v a_o clear_a and_o distinct_a knowledge_n of_o the_o real_a absence_n mounseur_fw-fr arnaud_n on_o the_o contrary_a maintain_v stiff_o in_o his_o chiee_n tract_n and_o give_v we_o hope_n to_o make_v be_v appear_v in_o a_o four_o by_o a_o inquiry_n into_o the_o father_n of_o the_o six_o first_o age_n that_o they_o have_v a_o knowledge_n and_o a_o clear_a distinct_a belief_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n the_o second_o be_v 290._o pag_n 162.240_o and_o 290._o that_o monsient_a cla●ds_n will_v have_v it_o that_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a time_n when_o by_o the_o negligence_n and_o ignotance_n of_o pastor_n christian_n have_v only_o a_o confuse_a knowledge_n of_o this_o mystery_n without_o positive_o believe_v or_o reject_v a_o real_a presence_n or_o real_a absence_n and_o that_o because_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o enter_v into_o any_o apprehension_n of_o either_o and_o now_o again_o monsieur_n arnaud_n ever_v and_o positive_o prove_v in_o the_o whole_a six_o book_n of_o his_o last_o work_n that_o that_o time_n never_o be_v and_o that_o there_o always_o aught_o to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n a_o dislinct_a belief_n either_o of_o real_a presence_n or_o absence_n i_o have_v already_o tell_v you_o that_o i_o pretend_v and_o intend_v throughout_o all_o this_o my_o little_a treatise_n to_o hold_v off_o from_o all_o dispute_n and_o that_o my_o meaning_n be_v only_o to_o step_v quiet_o aside_o that_o i_o may_v not_o be_v stop_v upon_o the_o way_n by_o meet_v some_o body_n who_o may_v be_v resolve_v to_o dispute_v the_o passage_n with_o i_o this_o be_v so_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o i_o will_v not_o thrust_v myself_o into_o the_o quarrel_n but_o will_v be_v content_v with_o what_o i_o think_v not_o in_o reason_n be_v refuse_v i_o 3._o as_o to_o the_o first_o then_o of_o those_o two_o point_n in_o contest_v i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o subject_a of_o those_o great_a work_n which_o will_v give_v immortal_a fame_n to_o bellarmin_n petron_n and_o so_o many_o other_o who_o have_v accompany_v they_o in_o that_o glorious_a design_n of_o set_v forth_o the_o antiquity_n of_o our_o belief_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o first_o father_n of_o the_o church_n it_o must_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o success_n have_v be_v happy_a to_o admiration_n and_o i_o do_v here_o protest_v for_o my_o own_o particular_a that_o have_v see_v their_o discourse_n and_o learn●●_n observation_n upon_o so_o many_o rare_a passage_n as_o they_o produce_v i_o be_o full_o satisfy_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v of_o the_o same_o positive_a belief_n we_o now_o be_v of_o concern_v the_o real_a presence_n and_o of_o that_o which_o some_o age_n past_a have_v be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o transubstan●●tion_n and_o that_o they_o can_v hardly_o have_v express_v themselves_o more_o clear_o and_o more_o pithy_o for_o that_o verity_n than_o they_o have_v do_v it_o be_v to_o be_v hope_v also_o that_o mr._n arnaud_n who_o i_o presume_v have_v bestow_v much_o of_o his_o time_n in_o that_o his_o lare_fw-la retirement_n upon_o a_o distinct_a and_o ●●rious_a perusal_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o be_v now_o prepare_v a_o entire_a volume_n upon_o this_o subject_a will_v afford_v we_o something_o more_o effectual_a and_o more_o express_v if_o it_o be_v possible_a by_o make_v some_o new_a discovery_n in_o that_o rich_a country_n and_o i●_n those_o happy_a time_n which_o have_v afterdy_o be_v so_o often_o view_v and_o traverse_v this_o notwithstanding_o we_o must_v gr●●t_v that_o though_o so_o much_o have_v be_v say_v and_o write_v to_o prove_v this_o matter_n of_o 〈◊〉_d et_fw-la our_o adversary_n be_v not_o satisfy_v or_o at_o least_o make_v as_o if_o they_o be_v not_o it_o be_v to_o be_v own_v that_o they_o still_o maintan_o the_o dispute_n concern_v those_o passage_n that_o they_o explicate_v they_o at_o least_o colourable_o to_o reduce_v they_o to_o their_o own_o sense_n that_o they_o allege_v other_o place_n against_o we_o which_o as_o they_o imagine_v have_v a_o first_o sight_n something_o of_o intricacy_n in_o they_o and_o serve_v to_o dazzle_v our_o eye_n and_z ●ye_z we_o some_o trouble_n these_o they_o force_v we_o to_o qualify_v with_o some_o moderation_n to_o explicate_v and_o distinguish_v so_o to_o reduce_v they_o to_o their_o true_a sense_n and_o natural_a meaning_n we_o can_v deny_v but_o they_o have_v compose_v and_o be_v still_o compose_v great_a volume_n for_o draw_v unto_o their_o party_n and_o the_o appose_v against_o we_o those_o very_a father_n who_o we_o allege_v against_o they_o and_o that_o what_o we_o say_v of_o their_o objection_n and_o author_n they_o pretend_v at_o least_o a_o right_a to_o say_v against_o we_o for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o resolve_v to_o bring_v no_o action_n in_o the_o case_n but_o i_o must_v desire_v they_o notwithstanding_o to_o deal_v like_o honest_a man_n and_o such_o as_o will_v not_o forfeit_v common_a sense_n for_o that_o ingenuity_n and_o fair_a deal_n which_o become_v person_n of_o honour_n even_o in_o treat_v with_o a_o enemy_n and_o to_o tell_v i_o candid_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o what_o i_o have_v just_a now_o allege_v for_o they_o against_o ourselves_o may_v with_o as_o little_a difficulty_n and_o as_o much_o equity_n be_v say_v for_o we_o against_o themselves_o i_o be_o very_o confident_a they_o shall_v need_v but_o interchange_v person_n to_o make_v the_o same_o discourse_n in_o the_o self_n same_o term_n on_o out_o behalf_n in_o a_o word_n let_v they_o reflect_v that_o we_o do_v answer_v the_o place_n by_o they_o allege_v and_o that_o they_o find_v themselves_o often_o enough_o in_o some_o trouble_n and_o perplexity_n to_o give_v a_o satisfactory_a answer_n to_o we_o let_v it_o then_o be_v leave_v uncertain_a for_o the_o present_a to_o which_o side_n the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n do_v incline_v i_o be_o content_v at_o present_a to_o endure_v patient_o that_o you_o be_v not_o of_o my_o opinion_n concern_v the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n which_o i_o real_o think_v aught_o to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o word_n of_o these_o holy_a father_n but_o i_o beseech_v you_o gentleman_n be_v not_o then_o displease_v if_o i_o be_v not_o of_o you_o mind_n in_o the_o application_n and_o explication_n you_o make_v of_o those_o place_n which_o seem_v so_o evident_o to_o favour_v we_o let_v the_o business_n remain_v uncertain_a in_o expectation_n of_o some_o great_a evidence_n and_o let_v 〈◊〉_d also_o say_v of_o they_o since_o you_o will_v needs_o have_v it_o so_o what_o one_o of_o the_o
learn_a minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o paris_n say_v pleasant_o enough_o father_n mr._n dialle_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o true_a use_n of_o the_o father_n that_o as_o by_o force_n of_o imagination_n which_o model_n the_o sound_n and_o determine_v it_o to_o the_o expression_n it_o fancy_n we_o make_v the_o bell_n speak_v what_o we_o listen_v even_o so_o in_o cite_v and_o allege_v the_o father_n we_o make_v they_o say_v whatever_o we_o have_v a_o mind_n they_o shall_v have_v say_v and_o it_o be_v the_o resolution_n of_o draw_v they_o to_o our_o side_n which_o determine_v their_o say_n to_o a_o particular_a pretend_a sense_n or_o meaning_n i_o require_v then_o of_o you_o for_o the_o present_a that_o you_o rest_v upon_o what_o be_v say_v on_o this_o subject_n by_o that_o minister_n who_o be_v so_o long_o and_o so_o faithful_a a_o servant_n to_o the_o party_n this_o have_v so_o much_o reason_n and_o equity_n in_o it_o that_o i_o make_v myself_o believe_v you_o will_v never_o have_v the_o heart_n to_o refuse_v it_o and_o now_o in_o case_n the_o father_n by_o you_o cite_v shall_v not_o be_v find_v to_o have_v so_o positive_o mention_v the_o real_a absence_n as_o you_o pretend_v they_o have_v do_v and_o we_o deny_v you_o will_v not_o be_v upon_o much_o worse_a term_n as_o to_o the_o main_a business_n because_o according_a to_o you_o the_o father_n be_v not_o the_o r●le_n of_o faith_n so_o likewise_o if_o it_o shall_v happen_v that_o those_o who_o we_o make_v use_v of_o in_o opposition_n to_o you_o shall_v not_o have_v declare_v themselves_o so_o clear_o and_o distinct_o for_o a_o real_a presence_n as_o we_o suppose_v they_o have_v do_v and_o you_o deny_v it_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n we_o shall_v not_o be_v much_o inconvenience_v by_o it_o see_v especial_o that_o the_o true_a church_n in_o which_o reside_v the_o power_n when_o contest_v do_v arise_v of_o define_v what_o be_v of_o faith_n in_o such_o manner_n as_o we_o have_v already_o mention_v have_v yet_o determine_v nothing_o in_o the_o case_n nor_o declare_v in_o particular_a what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o this_o or_o that_o passage_n of_o st._n cyprian_n st._n cyrill_n or_o st._n augustine_n &c_n &c_n let_v this_o then_o for_o the_o present_a remain_z undecided_a and_o let_v we_o proceed_v as_o if_o these_o father_n who_o be_v the_o occasion_n of_o this_o dispute_n have_v say_v nothing_o clear_o and_o distinct_o concern_v this_o mattery_a think_v there_o can_v be_v nothing_o more_o 〈◊〉_d and_o reasonable_a than_o this_o and_o i_o can_v not_o apprehend_v that_o either_o monsie●_n claude_n or_o any_o of_o his_o party_n will_v think_v fit_a to_o dispute_v this_o point_n with_o we_o for_o if_o they_o object_v father_n against_o we_o it_o be_v nor_o than_o according_a to_o their_o principle●_n they_o pretend_v they_o be_v infallible_a and_o that_o what_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v be_v to_o be_v decide_v by_o their_o authority_n but_o it_o be_v to_o show_v we_o that_o they_o can_v fight_v we_o at_o the_o same_o weapon_n we_o sometime_o make_v use_n of_o against_o they_o 4._o as_o to_o the_o second_o thing_n in_o contest_v to_o wit_n whether_o there_o ever_o be_v a_o time_n in_o the_o church_n wherein_o there_o be_v but_o a_o confuse_a kind_n of_o knowledge_n touch_v this_o mystery_n without_o reflection_n upon_o either_o real_a presence_n or_o real_a absence_n mounseur_fw-fr arnaud_n prove_v in_o one_o whole_a book_n that_o this_o can_v not_o be_v and_o for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o confess_v unto_o he_o that_o if_o he_o have_v none_o else_o to_o deal_v with_o beside_o myself_o he_o shall_v not_o at_o all_o ●eed_n to_o give_v himself_o any_o further_a trouble_n of_o argue_v the_o business_n for_o i_o be_o absolute_o of_o his_o persuasion_n nay_o i_o will_v add_v further_a shall_v make_v a_o scruple_n in_o conscience_n to_o refuse_v my_o consent_n to_o so_o rational_a and_o wellgrounded_n a_o assertion_n but_o by_o misfortune_n monsieur_n claude_n be_v not_o of_o my_o humour_n and_o will_v not_o yield_v the_o least_o in_o a_o point_n where_o he_o imagine_v he_o have_v some_o advantage_n and_o which_o he_o seem_v resolve_v to_o make_v good_a to_o the_o very_a last_o behold_v why_o i_o be_o more_o than_o half_o persuade_v to_o ield_v up_o something_o of_o that_o right_n which_o i_o may_v so_o just_o claim_v and_o this_o for_o peace_n and_o quietness_n sake_n and_o that_o i_o may_v not_o be_v engage_v in_o a_o dispute_n which_o i_o have_v resolve_v to_o decline_v as_o much_o as_o may_v be_v let_v we_o then_o frank_o grant_v what_o he_o demand_v although_o we_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o agree_v with_o he_o upon_o the_o matter_n let_v we_o not_o contest_v with_o he_o about_o a_o point_n which_o we_o may_v dispense_v with_o without_o any_o great_a difficulty_n let_v he_o have_v full_a scope_n to_o fancy_n to_o himself_o such_o a_o obscure_a dark_a season_n of_o confuse_a knowledge_n let_v that_o invention_n of_o his_o own_o brain_n pass_v for_o a_o reality_n and_o that_o christian_n actual_o as_o he_o will_v have_v it_o be_v at_o that_o time_n in_o a_o state_n of_o ignorance_n and_o obscurity_n i_o be_o content_v to_o yield_v so_o far_o for_o his_o satisfaction_n and_o now_o by_o way_n of_o one_o little_a peaceable_a digression_n more_o 5._o i_o will_v grant_v moreoever_o that_o this_o great_a mystery_n have_v not_o at_o all_o time_n be_v examine_v to_o the_o bottom_n and_o that_o man_n do_v not_o employ_v themselves_o so_o much_o in_o the_o discussion_n of_o this_o as_o of_o many_o other_o point_n the_o father_n indeed_o have_v not_o write_v such_o large_a treatise_n of_o it●_n as_o afterward_o be_v write_v and_o as_o themselves_o have_v write_v concern_v other_o mystery_n which_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o maintain_v against_o those_o who_o oppose_v they_o all_o the_o heresy_n of_o those_o day_n which_o interrupt_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n be_v chief_o concern_v the_o most_o bless_a trinity_n concern_v the_o divinity_n and_o incarnation_n the_o word_n eternal_a they_o be_v at_o peace_n and_o quiet_a concern_v the_o most_o holy_a eucharist_n it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o question_v by_o the_o heretic_n of_o those_o day_n the_o hour_n for_o that_o be_v not_o yet_o come_v here_o you_o have_v the_o reason_n why_o the_o holy_a father_n insist_v chief_o upon_o the_o defence_n of_o such_o mystery_n as_o be_v then_o question_v or_o oppose_v it_o be_v upon_o those_o occasion_n they_o compile_v those_o great_a work_n of_o they_o with_o so_o much_o exactness_n explain_v and_o clear_v many_o particular_a point_n which_o be_v not_o much_o look_v upon_o before_o those_o contest_v be_v raise_v in_o the_o church_n upon_o different_a occasion_n without_o question_n there_o can_v be_v no_o great_a difficulty_n to_o agree_v that_o the_o same_o have_v happen_v in_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n that_o there_o be_v a_o time_n when_o man_n do_v not_o set_v themselves_o to_o write_v purposely_o of_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o great_a mystery_n as_o they_o do_v of_o some_o other_o about_o which_o man_n wit_n be_v at_o work_n by_o occasion_n of_o some_o proposition_n which_o have_v cause_v some_o disturbance_n there_o have_v be_v another_o time_n when_o man_n do_v upon_o design_n fall_v a_o writing_n more_o at_o large_a for_o the_o explicate_a not_o only_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o sacrament_n but_o also_o of_o the_o mystery_n contain_v therein_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o about_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o nine_o age_n 840._o anno_fw-la 818._o bell._n sermon_n defence_n of_o the_o perpet_n l._n 8._o c._n 10._o pag._n 840._o pascasius_fw-la radber●●_n write_v a_o treatise_n of_o this_o nature_n in_o the_o book_n he_o make_v concern_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n whether_o he_o be_v the_o first_o or_o no_o that_o treat_v of_o this_o subject_n in_o that_o manner_n discuss_v the_o particular_n more-minute_o with_o method_n and_o at_o large_a unite_n together_o all_o the_o part_n belong_v to_o this_o glorious_a mystery_n whether_o there_o be_v at_o the_o beginning_n many_o adversary_n who_o show_v themselves_o in_o opposition_n to_o his_o doctrine_n 8._o pag._n 227._o pag._n 629._o l._n 8._o c._n 8._o as_o be_v pretend_v by_o mr._n claud●_n or_o very_o few_o and_o those_o who_o dare_v not_o public_o show_v themselves_o as_o mounseur_fw-fr aenand_n evidence_n very_o learned_o and_o clear_o concern_v i_o not_o at_o all_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o that_o it_o be_v most_o true_a as_o both_o agree_v that_o that_o book_n in_o fine_a ibid._n ibid._n be_v cause_n of_o some_o trouble_n and_o as_o be_v say_v of_o it_o in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n have_v this_o effect_n in_o some_o 813._o pag._n 813._o that_o have_v give_v they_o occasion_n to_o look_v more_o
prove_v so_o very_o intelligible_a even_o to_o the_o learnede_a sort_n of_o man_n there_o be_v notwithstanding_o this_o difference_n that_o as_o no_o one_o of_o those_o father_n in_o particular_a be_v the_o rule_n of_o her_o belief_n so_o do_v she_o not_o so_o abselute_o determine_v by_o her_o decree_n what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o such_o or_o such_o a_o passage_n of_o they_o leave_v it_o many_o time_n to_o our_o discussion_n as_o she_o do_v that_o of_o holy_a scripture_n which_o she_o permit_v not_o to_o be_v call_v in_o question_n 4._o and_o from_o hence_o we_o draw_v a_o three_o conclusion_n that_o when_o in_o any_o province_n or_o kingdom_n a_o difficulty_n do_v arise_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n it_o be_v very_o uneffectual_a and_o preposto_o we_o to_o undertake_v to_o compose_v it_o by_o way_n of_o disputation_n or_o conference_n experience_n have_v often_o show_v that_o such_o proceed_n serve_v only_o to_o increase_v the_o division_n and_o render_v it_o endless_a provoke_v high_a spirit_n and_o put_v they_o upon_o a_o pike_n of_o honour_n which_o permit_v they_o not_o to_o be_v much_o move_v with_o any_o reason_n of_o a_o adversary_n we_o must_v come_v quick_o to_o that_o fix_a and_o settle_a point_n i_o mean_v the_o sovereign_n undeclinable_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o which_o there_o be_v two_o several_a time_n or_o season_n which_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o be_v distinguish_v that_o which_o go_v before_o and_o that_o which_o follow_v after_o in_o the_o first_o of_o these_o write_v on_o both_o side_n so_o it_o be_v without_o bitterness_n with_o a_o good_a intent_n and_o design_n to_o make_v truth_n appear_v be_v very_o lawful_a and_o then_o the_o reason_n allege_v in_o such_o write_n the_o father_n who_o happen_v to_o be_v cite_v pro_fw-la and_o con_v do_v make_v as_o it_o be_v plaintiff_n and_o defendant_n council_n and_o plea_n in_o the_o court_n they_o be_v the_o bill_n and_o answer_n the_o reply_v and_o repartee_n be_v the_o difficulty_n propose_v on_o both_o side_n but_o what_o the_o church_n definitive_o pronounce_v have_v take_v cognisance_n of_o and_o examine_v thing_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o proceed_n of_o the_o court_n this_o become_v a_o decree_n this_o be_v truth_n this_o be_v the_o fix_a point_n we_o must_v stick_v to_o and_o rely_v upon_o whether_o the_o father_n cite_v do_v distinct_o believe_v it_o or_o no._n in_o the_o second_o of_o these_o time_n or_o season_n in_o case_n those_o who_o doctrine_n stand_v condemn_v will_v not_o acquiesce_v and_o submit_v to_o judgement_n prince_n and_o magistrate_n who_o be_v as_o protector_n of_o the_o canon_n and_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n have_v a_o duty_n incumbent_n upon_o they_o to_o procure_v and_o exact_v that_o obedience_n which_o be_v due_a and_o to_o endeavour_v the_o quiet_v and_o reduce_v such_o turbulent_a spirit_n by_o such_o mean_n as_o they_o shall_v judge_v most_o efficacious_a and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o shall_v be_v lawful_a for_o the_o learned_a to_o write_v more_o vigorous_o against_o they_o and_o to_o bring_v scripture_n and_o father_n as_o have_v be_v practise_v by_o many_o know_a controvertist_n not_o by_o way_n of_o discuss_v a_o matter_n which_o be_v yet_o within_o the_o bound_n of_o incertitude_n but_o to_o make_v the_o weakness_n of_o falsity_n appear_v and_o to_o show_v the_o force_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o conformity_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o antiquity_n for_o all_o other_o person_n it_o be_v much_o more_o to_o their_o purpose_n not_o to_o meddle_v with_o not_o hearken_v to_o any_o thing_n of_o this_o kind_n but_o to_o satisfy_v themselves_o say_v this_o the_o church_n have_v desined_a this_o i_o ascept_v this_o i_o will_v stick_v close_o unto_o in_o my_o opinion_n this_o be_v all_o which_o ought_v to_o be_v propose_v to_o the_o faithful_a without_o make_v they_o judge_n of_o controversy_n be_v faith_n and_o without_o give_v they_o occasion_n to_o enter_v into_o dispute_n concern_v this_o place_n of_o scripture_n and_o that_o of_o holy_a father_n which_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v thing_n beyond_o their_o reach_n and_o capacity_n 14._o si_fw-mi quid_fw-la tibi_fw-la videtur_fw-la vel_fw-la ambiguitate_fw-la pendere_fw-la vel_fw-la obscuritate_fw-la obumbrari_fw-la tertull._n de_fw-fr praesc_fw-la c._n 14._o curiosity_n do_v frequent_o come_v in_o for_o a_o part_n and_o that_o serve_v only_o to_o beget_v trouble_n and_o perplexity_n when_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o penetrate_v to_o the_o secret_a meaning_n or_o bottom_n o●_n such_o passage_n or_o to_o raise_v a_o presumption_n in_o they_o when_o they_o imagine_v they_o comprehend_v the_o matter_n and_o so_o come_v to_o fancy_v themselves_o no_o mean_a person_n search_v curious_o into_o every_o thing_n with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o hazard_n and_o danger_n to_o light_v at_o length_n upon_o something_o that_o may_v give_v they_o a_o check_n and_o make_v they_o begin_v to_o waver_v for_o want_v of_o understanding_n ibid._n ignorare_fw-la melius_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la debeas_fw-la noris_fw-la ibid._n together_o with_o a_o excess_n of_o rashness_n and_o boldness_n it_o be_v much_o better_a say_v tertullian_n to_o be_v ignorant_a in_o that_o kind_n lest_o by_o some_o gross_a mistake_n or_o ill-understanding_n you_o come_v at_o length_n unfortunate_o to_o know_v what_o you_o have_v better_o be_v ignorant_a of_o saluti_fw-la fides_n tua_fw-la inquit_fw-la te_fw-la salvum_fw-la fecit_fw-la non_fw-la exercitatio_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la fides_n in_o regulâ_fw-la posita_fw-la est_fw-la exercitatio_fw-la autem_fw-la in_o curiositate_fw-la consistit_fw-la habens_fw-la gloriam_fw-la solam_fw-la de_fw-la peritiae_fw-la study_v cedat_fw-la curiositas_fw-la fidei_fw-la cedat_fw-la gloria_fw-la saluti_fw-la it_o be_v faith_n a_o christian_n be_v to_o be_v save_v by_o not_o by_o discuss_v text_n of_o scripture_n and_o passage_n of_o holy_a father_n for_o the_o have_a faith_n it_o suffice_v to_o stick_v to_o the_o rule_n learn_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o argue_v and_o discul_v which_o i_o here_o point_n at_o come_v very_o ordinary_o from_o a_o excess_n of_o curiosity_n and_o be_v only_a subservient_fw-fr to_o vanity_n for_o the_o gain_v a_o little_a glory_n by_o make_v a_o vain_a ostentation_n of_o the_o knowledge_n one_o have_v get_v by_o his_o own_o industry_n and_o study_n it_o be_v but_o reason_n that_o curiosity_n shall_v give_v place_n to_o faith_n and_o and_o vainglory_n to_o serious_a thought_n and_o care_n of_o our_o salvation_n to_o this_o end_n it_o be_v necessary_a we_o stick_v close_o to_o that_o rule_n to_o that_o settle_a principle_n which_o be_v the_o true_a science_n of_o a_o christian_a i_o mean_v we_o ought_v to_o learn_v of_o the_o church_n what_o the_o word_n of_o god_n teach_v we_o and_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n thereof_o est_fw-la non_fw-la obstrepant_fw-la adversus_fw-la regulam_fw-la nihil_fw-la ultra_fw-la scire_fw-la omne_fw-la scire_fw-la est_fw-la let_v no_o m●●_n oppose_v this_o rare_a maxim_n to_o know_v nothing_o more_o than_o this_o be_v in_o reality_n to_o know_v all_o thing_n 5._o from_o what_o have_v be_v now_o say_v we_o may_v yet_o draw_v a_o four_o sequel_n that_o this_o general_a rule_n and_o universal_a prindple_n receive_v and_o allow_v of_o by_o all_o 〈◊〉_d such_o manner_n as_o it_o have_v be_v propound_v may_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v apply_v to_o every_o particular_a point_n controvert_v that_o we_o may_v come_v to_o have_v a_o ready_a and_o certain_a solution_n thereof_o for_o those_o who_o first_o oppose_v the_o doctrine_n we_o now_o make_v profession_n of_o in_o any_o article_n debate_v either_o be_v at_o that_o time_n of_o the_o fame_n church_n with_o those_o who_o they_o oppose_v which_o church_n they_o own_v for_o the_o true_a church_n there_o be_v as_o yet_o no_o separation_n make_v or_o they_o be_v already_o dismiss_v from_o she_o if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o it_o be_v but_o see_v what_o that_o church_n by_o her_o representative_a have_v declate_v concern_v the_o matter_n in_o debate_n for_o we_o be_v agr_v that_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o submit_v to_o her_o judgement_n so_o far_o as_o that_o in_o case_n of_o contempt_n it_o can_v not_o be_v lawful_a to_o take_v part_n with_o they_o without_o fall_v after_o their_o example_n into_o open_a and_o direct_a schism_n but_o if_o they_o be_v already_o divorce_v from_o she_o upon_o any_o other_o ground_n or_o for_o any_o other_o precedent_a cause_n it_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o they_o be_v upon_o the_o whole_a matter_n already_o true_a schismatic_n because_o either_o they_o themselves_o or_o their_o predecessor_n have_v former_o be_v of_o that_o church_n they_o ought_v not_o after_o legal_a sentence_n give_v to_o have_v make_v a_o separation_n and_o consequent_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a
at_o this_o day_n to_o join_v with_o they_o without_o become_a complice_n with_o they_o and_o guilty_a of_o their_o revolt_n this_o be_v that_o we_o call_v a_o true_a solid_a and_o general_a prescription_n against_o all_o those_o who_o contend_v with_o we_o behold_v here_o a_o end_n of_o the_o war_n a_o conclusion_n of_o all_o dispute_v the_o bond_n of_o peace_n the_o union_n of_o heart_n and_o understanding_n the_o certain_a rule_n the_o immovable_a point_n the_o unquestionable_a principle_n and_o sole_a abridgement_n of_o all_o controversy_n what_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v concern_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a image_n of_o the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n of_o purgatory_n of_o grace_n of_o freewill_n and_o of_o justification_n let_v we_o not_o now_o renew_v those_o old_a quarrel_n which_o have_v set_v the_o christian_a world_n at_o odds_o concern_v these_o point_n let_v we_o not_o again_o fall_v a_o question_n and_o discuss_v all_o those_o text_n and_o passage_n which_o have_v be_v a_o thousand_o time_n mention_v a_o thousand_o time_n bring_v on_o one_o side_n and_o as_o often_o return_v on_o the_o other_o in_o a_o quite_o contrary_a sense_n let_v we_o not_o engage_v ourselves_o in_o those_o quarrel_n where_o the_o victory_n never_o appear_v certain_a because_o such_o champion_n be_v always_o in_o a_o readiness_n to_o charge_v the_o enemy_n afresh_o be_v never_o out_o of_o breath_n and_o resolve_v never_o to_o quit_v the_o field_n nor_o lie_v down_o their_o arm_n behold_v what_o will_v set_v we_o all_o right_a and_o bring_v we_o to_o a_o agreement_n in_o a_o moment_n put_v a_o period_n to_o all_o our_o trouble_n even_o before_o they_o begin_v let_v we_o see_v what_o that_o church_n which_o be_v common_a mother_n and_o commander_n of_o both_o party_n when_o the_o war_n first_o begin_v have_v resolve_v in_o each_o of_o these_o particular_n here_o you_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o discover_v wherein_o true_a faith_n consist_v because_o the_o true_a church_n which_o in_o all_o man_n opinion_n have_v power_n when_o the_o question_n be_v move_v to_o declare_v what_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v have_v judge_v thus_o and_o thus_o according_a to_o those_o rule_n which_o she_o never_o fail_v to_o apply_v they_o in_o due_a manner_n and_o just_a proportion_n can_v never_o be_v deficient_a he_o whosoever_o he_o be_v who_o refuse_v obedience_n to_o that_o decree_n become_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la a_o schismatic_a and_o it_o be_v no_o less_o evident_a that_o all_o who_o join_v with_o he_o be_v in_o the_o same_o predicament_n this_o be_v that_o one_o fundamental_a and_o allresolving_a point_n which_o alone_o can_v end_v the_o quarrel_n and_o that_o in_o the_o most_o peaceable_a manner_n imaginable_a without_o be_v oblige_v to_o enter_v into_o further_a debate_n or_o discussion_n of_o the_o matter_n and_o this_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o speak_v all_o this_o while_n of_o a_o true_a church_n which_o certain_o be_v somewhere_o or_o other_o as_o all_o the_o world_n acknowledge_v i_o have_v purposely_o omit_v to_o say_v any_o thing_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o of_o his_o quality_n or_o prerogative_n as_o head_n thereof_o for_o infallible_o i_o shall_v have_v meet_v with_o some_o rub_n or_o other_o this_o be_v a_o point_n high_o contest_v between_o we_o whereas_o for_o my_o part_n i_o be_v resolve_v to_o enter_v into_o no_o quarrel_n but_o to_o be_v at_o perfect_a agreement_n and_o go_v on_o my_o way_n hand_n in_o hand_n with_o those_o of_o the_o protestant_a church_n for_o i_o conceive_v we_o have_v nothing_o else_o to_o do_v but_o to_o apply_v this_o our_o rule_n and_o agree_v upon_o principle_n unto_o the_o present_a matter_n and_o to_o allow_v unto_o st._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n that_o which_o the_o gospel_n give_v he_o as_o it_o be_v understand_v by_o that_o church_n of_o which_o we_o all_o be_v when_o dispute_n first_o arise_v concern_v that_o subject_n and_o according_a to_o what_o that_o church_n have_v set_v forth_o in_o those_o great_a and_o holy_a assembly_n of_o the_o first_o ecumenical_a council_n which_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v reverence_v and_o respect_v by_o all_o who_o call_v themselves_o christian_n i_o ask_v but_o this_o which_o i_o think_v can_v be_v deny_v i_o and_o this_o alone_a be_v a_o assure_a mean_n to_o bring_v we_o speedy_o to_o a_o agreement_n and_o to_o cause_v a_o cessation_n of_o that_o lamentable_a division_n which_o be_v among_o we_o and_o be_v so_o unfortunate_a to_o the_o church_n so_o pernicious_a to_o the_o public_a good_a so_o injurious_a to_o the_o peace_n and_o quiet_a of_o the_o people_n and_o so_o fatal_o prejudicial_a to_o the_o safety_n and_o salvation_n of_o so_o many_o person_n wherefore_o for_o a_o conclusion_n i_o humble_o and_o with_o my_o whole_a heart_n and_o foul_a beseech_v our_o brethren_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o the_o fight_n and_o presence_n of_o god_n to_o lay_v aside_o that_o inveterate_a prejudice_n they_o have_v against_o we_o 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o which_o obstruct_v their_o peaceable_a treat_v with_o we_o as_o if_o we_o be_v people_n who_o refuse_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o the_o rule_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o action_n i_o beseech_v you_o gentlemen_z do_v not_o eternal_o use_v that_o language_n to_o we_o 7._o templum_fw-la domini_fw-la templum_fw-la domini_fw-la jer._n 7._o the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n without_o any_o mixture_n of_o humane_a invention_n and_o tradition_n this_o be_v and_o be_v at_o this_o day_n the_o custom_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o ariant_n the_o sabellian_o the_o nestorian_n the_o m●nothelites_n the_o anabaptist_n the_o socinian_o the_o independent_o and_o quaker_n who_o language_n this_o ever_o be_v and_o to_o this_o hour_n be_v and_o yet_o i_o do_v not_o find_v you_o have_v any_o great_a correspondence_n with_o or_o kindness_n for_o that_o gang_n of_o people_n who_o we_o suppose_v you_o have_v as_o great_a dislike_n of_o as_o we_o ourselves_o have_v you_o not_o take_v notice_n that_o the_o enemy_n of_o mankind_n himself_o when_o it_o be_v to_o his_o purpose_n make_v use_v of_o scripture_n that_o father_n of_o lie_n say_v it_o as_o bold_o as_o some_o of_o his_o child_n afterward_o that_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n make_v for_o he_o it_o be_v a_o reflection_n of_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n who_o be_v much_o esteem_v in_o the_o five_o age_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v high_o extol_v even_o by_o the_o magdebargian_n centuriatores_fw-la themselves_o 10._o cent._n 5._o c._n 10._o that_o wicked_a fiend_n say_v he_o that_o teach_v and_o master_n of_o heretic_n will_v needs_o persuade_v the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o if_o he_o be_v the_o true_a messiah_n he_o must_v cast_v himself_o down_o from_o the_o pinnacle_n of_o the_o temple_n to_o make_v himself_o know_v to_o the_o world_n there_o be_v nothing_o more_o false_a and_o yet_o for_o proof_n he_o produce_v that_o passage_n of_o the_o 90_o psalm_n 37._o psal_n 90._o v._n 11_o 22._o sicut_fw-la tunc_fw-la caput_fw-la capiti_fw-la ita_fw-la nune_fw-la membra_fw-la membris_fw-la l●qwatur_fw-la membra_fw-la scilicet_fw-la diaboli_fw-la membris_fw-la christi_fw-la perfidi_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la sacrilegi_fw-la religiosis_fw-la haeretici_fw-la postremò_fw-la catholicis_fw-la common_n ●_o c._n 37._o where_o it_o be_v say_v he_o have_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v of_o thou_o that_o they_o keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n in_o their_o hand_n they_o shall_v bear_v thou_o lest_o perhaps_o thou_o knock_v thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n what_o the_o chief_a of_o heretic_n say_v at_o that_o time_n to_o the_o chief_a of_o christian_n the_o same_o do_v the_o member_n of_o that_o wicked_a one_o say_v at_o this_o time_n to_o the_o member_n of_o jesus_n christ_n the_o infidel_n to_o the_o faithful_a heretic_n to_o catholic_n ever_o allege_v scripture_n for_o themselves_o the_o question_n therefore_o be_v not_o whether_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v that_o rule_n which_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o follow_v there_o be_v not_o not_o ever_o be_v any_o heretic_n upon_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n who_o do_v not_o affirm_v this_o as_o stout_o and_o resolute_o as_o any_o catholic_n can_v do_v as_o the_o debate_n never_o arise_v about_o this_o so_o shall_v the_o decision_n of_o this_o point_n never_o end_v the_o quarrel_n nor_o bring_v peace_n among_o we_o there_o be_v no_o body_n question_n it_o neither_o you_o nor_o we_o doubt_v the_o least_o of_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o feud_n for_o all_o that_o still_o increase_v that_o than_o which_o be_v of_o true_a importance_n or_o concern_v be_v to_o know_v whether_o that_o which_o we_o call_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v real_o so_o or_o no_o and_o whether_o the_o interpretation_n which_o i_o give_v or_o that_o