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Ecclesiastical Policy expresses this Doctrine though not so fully yet more intelligibly to the Unlearned in these words The Substance of God with this property to be of none doth make the Person of the Father the very self-same Substance in Number with this property to be of the Father maketh the Person of the Son the same Substance having added to it the property of proceeding from the other two maketh the Person of the Holy Ghost So that in every Person there is implied both the Substance of God which is one and also that Property which causeth the same Person that is to say the Divine Substance with one of the three Properties before said as suppose the Property to be of none really and truly to differ from the other two That is to differ from the Divine Substance considered under the Properties to be of the Father and to proceed from the Father and Son Mr. Hooker then as well as Dr. S th understood the Doctrine of the Schools and Church concerning the Trinity to be this That there is but one infinite intellectual Divine Substance in Number which Substance is the Subject if we may so speak of sundry Divine Attributes such as Omnipotence perfect Goodness consummate Holiness and the rest none of which Attributes is more than once in the Divine Substance or Godhead there is in God but one Omniscience one Omnipotence one Holiness one Goodness in number as the Nature or Substance is but one in number so each Attribute is but once not thrice in the Nature or Godhead But then besides these Attributes there are also three Persons in God not subsisting Persons for that would plainly make three Beings three Spirits and three Gods but three such Persons as in very Deed are but so many Properties or Modes or if you will give them any the like Name Such Properties as Grammarians and Classical Authors and after them Metaphysicians call Persons for according to them a Father is a Person a Son is a Person a Sanctifier is a Person and whosoever sustains these three Relations or any other the like is by them called three Persons Thus for example M. Tullius acknowledges in every Man no less than four Persons namely first The rational Nature by which we differ from Brutes next the particular Properties of Body and Mind which distinguish one rational Nature or Man from another thirdly the circumstance or manner of Life of each Man as that he is a Rich Man or a Poor lastly The Profession that any one takes up as to be a Civilian a Professor in Philosophy a Pleader a Poet or Writer to the Stage De Officiis l. 2. c. 30 32. A Person then in grammatical critical speaking is not a subsisting Being but some either characterizing Property or some Relation or State of a subsisting intellectual Being and it is of Persons critically so called that the Church would be understood when she says there are three Persons in God she doth not mean three subsisting Persons or Persons who are called Persons because they are so many intellectual Beings Dr. S th very well understood the Doctrine of the Schools when he notes that the three Divine Persons are three relative Subsistences but so saith he that their Subsistence is nothing else but their Relation that is they are meer States Modes or Relations which in a sense subsist in the Divine Substance Nature or Godhead Which indeed is to say God is three Persons as any particular Man may be three Persons for the same Man may be a Father a Son and may proceed from two others namely from Father and Mother And though this is not the very manner of God's being three Persons yet the ternary Personality in God is sounded on the same Notion and Conception of the word Persons and that Conception no more destroys his real Unity whether as a Being as a Spirit or as God than that three-fold Personality in a Man makes him to be more than one Man or than one subsisting Person The short is according to these Gentlemen God is but one subsisting or real Person but this one physical Person having three internal Relations is thereby three relative Persons three such Persons as one Man or one Angel who happens to have three Relations is The three relative Persons no more contradict the Unity of God than the theeefold Relation of Solomon namely as Son of David as Father of Rehoboam and as proceeding from David and Bathsheba contradicts his being but one Man or one subsisting and physical Person It is well known what Judgment the Real Vnitarians make of this Explication of the Trinity Mr. How because he delights to be civil contents himself to say the Real Trinitarians will judg it is not Sense View of the Considerations pag. 50. The Bishop of Gloc. thinks it can have little better Success than only to make sport for the Socinians so he concludes his 28 Propositions in his 2d Defence of them But Dr. Cudworth cries 't is the Philosophy of Gotham Nay Mr. How himself though out of regard to so great a Party as the Nominal Trinitarians are he will only say of their Explication 't is not Sense yet he reckons P. Lombard the supposed Parent of this Explication of the Trinity one of the four Evangelists of Anti-Christ Dr. Bull also and the Learned Author Mr. J. B. of the Answer to Dr. S th's Animadversions on Dr. Sherlock say a great many bitter things of the Divines of the Schools by occasion of this senseless Explication of the Trinity These Gentlemen cannot bear it that the same intellectual Substance in number which is but only to say the same numerical Person should be made to be three Persons because of three pretended internal Relations or a threefold Relation to himself which he is absurdly feigned to sustain They confess that the same intellectual Substance or subsisting Person may be a Father and Son and may proceed from another or others but then these must be external not internal Relations that is he cannot be Father and Son to himself as is implied in the Scholastick Explication because it supposes this Father Son and Proceeder are really but one subsisting or physical Person though they are three and may be 300 Critical or Metaphysical Persons If the Schools and Nominals said God is three Persons because of three external Relations that is three Relations to his Creatures this might be understood because the same Man may have three Relations to others and is on that account called by Classical Writers three Persons though now and in the English Tongue that Sense of the word Persons is quite out of Use But to talk of three internal Relations or that the same intellectual Substance which is to say the same subsisting or physical Person is Unbegotten and Begotten is of none and yet proceeds from two to make him a Father and a Son when there is none but himself to whom he is either way so
after all probably the Reformers would have come off no better than the Socinians have done that is with all the clear Truth they have of their side and all their Dexterity and Wit in managing it being over-powered by the numbers of the contrary Herd they should have been answered with Penal Laws and Sanguinary Prosecutions of the those Laws They took therefore a Course that would do their Business unperceived by the most and when perceived by some few it would not be hard to convict them of Tritheism and explode them as Tritheists and so de facto they served Abbat Joachim And then getting their Explication of the Trinity confirmed by the Council of Lateran they happily restored the publick Profession and Faith of the Unity of God by an Authority which none dares to contradict for a General Council as was before noted is the highest Court of the Church that last Tribunal on Earth from which there lies no Appeal Of the Noetians and Sabellians THERE is yet another Branch of Nominal Trinitarians more antient far than those yet mentioned for about the Year of Christ 200 the Noetians and but a little after them the Sabellians arose both these said there is but one Divine Substance Essence or Nature and as the Substance of the Father Son and Spiirt is numerically One so consequently said they there is but one Person of God Father Son and Spirit are but only three Names of God given to him in Scripture by occasion of so many several Dispensations towards the Creature For in regard of the Creation God is called the Father he is named the Son as he wrought Miracles and accomplished the whole Work of Man's Redemption by the Lord Christ in whom he dwelt after a peculiar and extraordinary manner and who indeed was the Son of God by miraculous Conception in the Womb of Holy Mary He has the Name of the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit from his omnipotent Energy or Power by which he effecteth all things In a word the Noetians and Sabellians held that God is but one subsisting Person yet that with respect to things without Him he may be called as the Modern Nominals now speak three Relative Persons the one subsisting Person of God sustaineth the three Names of Father Son and Spirit which being the Relations of God towards things without him he is so many Relative Persons or Persons in a Classical critical Sense And this too is the Explication of the Trinity by that Party in the first Nicene Council who contrived the word Homo-usios or Consubstantial by which they meant that the three Divine Persons have all the same Substance and this is the Party which after the breaking up of that famous Council and upon the sudden Prevalence of the Arian Faction were persecuted by the Arians and were considered by all others as the true Nicene Party till about the Year of Christ 380 the Realists obtained that it should be said that God is tres Hypostases three subsisting Persons Indeed there are several Comma's in the Nicene Creed very hardly reconcilable to the Sabellian Doctrine but as there were three powerful and almost equal Parties in the Nicene Council the Arian Party the Realists and the Sabellians the latter thought it enough if they could procure Homo-usios consubstantial to be inserted into the Creed For that ambiguous Word may be interpreted in favour of all those Parties It may be interpreted the same Substance the very same or same in Number and so it establishes the Sabellian Doctrine or the same in Kind and all Properties and so it countenances the Realists or it may be understood of like Substance and so it pleases the Ariani molles the moderate Arians tho the rigid Arians in the Council would by no means admit of it they rather chose to lose their Bishopricks But when the Council was broke up it was perceived by the other Parties that the zealous Assertors of Homo-usios of the same Substance were all of them Sabellians believed that God is but one subsisting Person and therefore destroyed the real Existence of the Son whom the Arians as well as the Realists took to be a subsisting Person not a relative Person a Respect or a Name only And as the Arians discovered that the Homo-usians were indeed Sabellians so these latter charged the Arians and Realists as guilty of a manifest Tritheism because they so interpreted Homo-usios as to make Father Son and Spirit to be distinct intellectual Substances or subsisting Persons Let us hear their own Historian Socrates L. 1. c. 23. After the Council the Bishops wrangled about the word Homo-usios Those that were for it were censured by the contrary Party as Sabellians and were called Impious because they destroyed the real Existence of the Son Those that were against it were condemned by such as were for it as reviving Gentilism or the belief of more Gods And this Truth that Sabellianism was then taken to be the Nicene Doctrine or the same with the Doctrine of Consubstantiality is owned by the Learned Critick H. Valesius in his Notes on Sacrates L. 1. c. 24. For whereas the Historian saith That Cyrus Bishop of Berea was deposed for holding the Sabellian Doctrine Valesius notes hereupon in these words that is for the Doctrine of the Consubstantiality or the Doctrine of the Nicene Council which Council brought in the Homo-usiotes or Consubstantiality The Sum of what has been said concerning the Nominals THESE at length are the Divisions of the Nominals They all agree that the three Persons of God are not subsisting Persons they are not so many distinct Lives Understandings Wills or Energies which together with a particular Substance make a subsisting Person and if they are more than one they make so many physical real or subsisting Persons no they are Persons in a quite different Sense from that vulgar acceptation of the word Persons They are either three Attributes of God Goodness Wisdom and Power Or three external Acts Creation Redemption and Sanctification Or two internal Acts of the subsisting Person of the Father that is to say the Father Vnderstanding and Willing himself and his own Perfections Or three internal Relations that is three Relations of God to himself namely the Divine Substance or Godhead considered as Unbegotten and Proceeding Or three Names of God ascribed to him by the Holy Scriptures because he is the Father of all things by Creation and because he did Inhabit and Operate after an extraordinary and miraculous manner in the Person of the Man Christ Jesus who was verily the Son of God by his wonderful manner of Conception and last of all because he effecteth all things more especially our Sanctification by his Spirit which is to say his Energy or Power Every one sees these are very crude Conceits to be dignified with the Name of Mysteries but withal the Reader is to know that the Mystery is still behind For the Mystery lies not here that one subsisting Person is
or of any others But then say I the Realists would cover such flat Impossibilities such gross Contradictions to common Sense in a Word such Monstrosities under the cloak of Mystery that they have infinitely more need of that wretched Blind than the Nominals who only by explaining their Terms which Custom and Law have imposed on them go a great way in fairly satissying all Difficulties and when they cannot perfectly account for them they make some small use of Mystery To understand this we must take a short view of the polite happy Things said by them both The Nominals teach there is but one numerical God or one God in Number who yet is three Persons That the Father is God the Son is God the H. Ghost is God yet all three are but one God one God in Number one self-same God They are perfectly aware this were equally Impossible and Ridiculous if 't were not dextrously interpreted and explained it would not be Mystery or Mysterious Truth but notorious Falshood and Absurdity they well know if wholly left in these Terms without an Explication Therefore they declare that by the term Persons and the words Father Son and Spirit they mean not with the Vulgar several subsisting Persons that is to say So many intellectual Substances with each his own particular Life Understanding Will and power of Action for they confess there is in God but one Substance Life Understanding Will Energy in number but three Persons in God are so many States or Respects or Properties or Relations or something equivalent to these of the same ore Divine intellectual Substance or Nature And in this Sense also according to the Nominals the words Father Son and Spirit when used of God are to be understood namely as Relations or States all of them sustained by one and the same subsisting Person or intellectual Substance not as in so many Subjects or as denominating variously three distinct Beings They show that so the Classical Authors both Greek and Latin spoke and as their Language was adopted by the Church in speaking of God with great Propriety so in process of Time the use of Words being much altered occasion was given to introduce the Heresy of the Realists who unlearnedly understanding the old Words in a novel Sense have brought into the Church three Gods instead of one Again they the Nominals say the second Person of the Trinity or of God was Incarnate in the Man Christ Jesus in such manner that thereby the Lord Christ is God as well as Man This also is called by that Mystical Name the Hypostatical or personal Union But they mean no more by it than this that God was as much and truly united to the Humanity as the Human Nature is capable of that is to say in a most extraordinary marvellous and to us unaccountable Manner When they say O God the Father have Mercy on us O God the Son O God the Holy Ghost have Mercy on us they intend not hereby three Objects of Worship or so many several Patrons and Helpers but only as these are so many Relations and Respects of the Deity either to himself or to us so they invocate him by these Distinctions or in these several Properties and Relations In short the whole Mystery consists in the Terms they use and scarce at all if at all in the Sense or things intended by those Terms which things or sense are received and imbraced by us the Unitarians for we admit the whole Doctrine as here declared and explained But 't is quite otherwise with the Realists their Non-sense is in the thing meant not in the Words or Terms They say there are three Divine subsisting Persons three infinite Spirits three omniscient Minds three distinct Almighties as distinct as so many Angels or Men each of them as truly properly adequately and perfectly God as each Man is a Man and each Angel an Angel and yet all of them are but one God This we confess is Mystery with a Witness the Mystery every one sees lies not in the Words and Terms but the thing it self is absurd and impossible to cry Mystery here is to profess that by Mystery we mean Contradiction and Impossibilities The Excuses they make for this Mystery are as mysterious or more mysterious than the Mystery for which they would apologize For to say these three most perfect Gods become one God by their mutual Accord and Love is as if you should pretend that by Love and Accord three Men are one Man And when they say they are one God by likeness or sameness of Nature and Properties and by being in one another they might equally say that two or more Angels because they have the same Nature and Properties and being Spiritual do immeate or are in one another are thereby one Angel These Explications of their Mystery are assuredly as great Mysteries as direct Contradictions to Reason and common Experience as the Doctrine it self of one God and three Divine subsisting Persons But why do the Realists expect that Mankind will be perswaded to accept such palpable abnegations of all consistent Sense for Mystery words that are hardly Sense or of either ambiguous or obscure meaning may be put off with some or other who care not for the Trouble of considering for Mystery but gross Contradictions obvious and notorious Non-sense will never be mistaken for Mystery 'T is true People may be constrained to profess it or to subscribe to it but they never believe it no not when through a long habit of Submission to the Commands of others they seem to themselves to believe it I doubt not that the Doctors of the Church of Rome seem to themselves to believe the Transubstantiation because having accustom'd themselves to submit to the Declarations of the Church they have never suffered any reluctance to arise in their Minds against any of those Declarations notwithstanding I am perswaded not a Man of them truly believes that Mystery were all Fears and Hopes and other blassing Interests removed they would presently perceive that in very Deed they believe it not their Reasons never assented to an impossible Proportion nor could assent but only as I said through a long habit of Submission they did not discern that they assented not to the Church's Declarations And this I believe is true also of all who pretend or seem to believe any other inconsistent or impossible Doctrines The Tritheism of the Realists not grounded on the H. Scripture BUT this once more 't is not on a probable or prudent Ground that the Realists sometimes pretend that the Tritheism they impose has such a Foundation in Holy Scripture that as on the one side to believe the Trinity in their Notion of it is a violence done to Reason so not to own and profess it would oblige them to as great a Violence and Disobedience to Holy Scripture I confess I have often wondred that Men so Learned and Discerning as very many of the Realists are
seems self-evident that either the Father only must be said to the truly God because he only hath omnimodous Perfection and in the highest Degree or that there is one Great God and two Inferior or lesser ones To this they that maintain the Inequality of the three Persons answer by retorting the Argument thus If the Divine Persons are equal then there are three Omnipotents and three Omniscients which is the very Notion of three Gods and is denied in terminis or expresly by the Athanasian Creed which saith not three Almighties but one Almighty c. But was it ever heard since the Creation of things say the common Enemy to both the Nominals that two contending erroneous Parties did more effectually ruin one another's common Mistake For as 't is self-evident on the one Hand that it being the very Definition of God the Notion that all Men have of him that he is a Being Omnimodously or absolutely Perfect therefore if the Son or Spirit want some Perfections or some degree of Perfection neither of them can be God but the Father only So on the other hand 't is noless incontestable that three Distinct and really subsisting Persons each of which possesses all Perfections and every degree of those Perfections must of necessity be three Gods Why do not these unhappy Men say the Nominals see that three Almighties and three Omniscients are most certainly three Gods and that on the contrary if only one of them is internally and verily Almighty as well as Superiour in Dignity to the other two he only is true God they are Gods only by Courtesy and Civility of Speech Do not the two contrary Arguments of these unlucky Reasoners make a Dilemma that overthrows their common Foundation even this that the Persons of the Trinity are subsisting Persons Have they not shown us how to argue succesfully against them both for we learn from themselves to say either the imagined subsisting Persons of their Trinity are equal or not equal if equal they must be three Gods because nothing is wanting to any of them toward making him a perfect God if unequal only one of them is properly and truly God the other two by Civility and Courtesy only they may be Gods to those that have a mind to compliment but wanting some Perfections or some Degrees of Perfection neither of them can be God in a Theological or Philosophical Sense But the Pleasure and Sport of the Nominals increases when the Realists seek to extricate themselves from these Noozes For example The Realists that are for the Equality say Father Son and Spirit though omnimodously Perfect and subsisting Persons are one God by their mutual Concord and Agreement So also Origen and other Antenicenes make out the Unity of God in a Ternary of Persons tho they did not believe the Equality To this the Nominals answer the supposed Divine subsisting Persons are hereby loving Friends which is a good Hearing for should three Almighties fall out what would the World do but if they are not only distinct but subsisting Persons they are as much three Gods in a proper and natural Sense as if they were never so much at odds Concord doth not make a Real or Physical Unity which is the Unity of God but only a Moral Vnity or such as is between Friends or Allies Other Realists almost all the Moderns see and confess this therefore they say their Gods are one because they are in one another But say the Nominals God is in his Creatures more especially in the Faithful and they in him as our Saviour himself witnesses are they thereby all but one God is the Creature deified by being in God and he in us No no say others but the Divine Persons who are thus in one another have like Substances Natures and Properties which cannot be said of God and the Creatures Admirable again cry the Nominals but remove this one Scruple If these resembling Gods are so united in their Substances or so in one another that their Substances are continuous like the Parts of the same Angel or like the assignable Parts of the same Divine Person 't is plain that by such an Union or mutual Immeation of their Parts they are become but one subsisting Person in number which is what the Nominals and Socinians contend for but if they are only so united or so in one another that their Parts are only Contiguous like Wine and Oil shook together and yet never incorporating this is but only Contact and Juxta-position and doth not make the three Persons to be one much less one God any more than all the Men in a close Croud are one Man or than the Wine and Oil before-said are one Substance In a word say the Nominals who sees not that the three Divine subsisting Persons having like Substances or Properties or what is all one like Natures are but only Gods resembling one another and whether they be in at out of one another likes are never the same 'T is well but it may be they have better luck who say the Divine Persons are not equal but the Second and Third are subordinate in Authority and inferiour in their Perfections The Objection against them is that hereby either the second and third Persons are neither of them God but only the First or here is one great God and two lesser They reply that as a Father and his two Sons are one Master of the Family though the Authority and Power is in the Father and only secondarily derivatively and less absolutely in the Sons So Father Son and H. Spirit are one God because the two latter though subject and inferior to the former have like Authority and Power with him for that he always concurs with them But the Nominals cry this is not one God in a Physical or Natural Sense but only in a Political and that the supposed Father of the Family and his two Sons may as well be said to be one Man as one Master For in very Deed only the Father is Master though he delegates Authority and Power to his Children during his Pleasue or if Power and Authority is absolutely and irrevocably conferred on them they are as much Masters as he and there is no longer one Master but three Secondly Another Argument of those that contend for the Equality is if the Son and Spirit are unequal to the Father and he only hath omnifarious Perfection with all degrees of those Perfections then the two former are very unnecessarily superadded to the latter he is perfect God without them they add nothing to him we can understand them but only as Foils to set off and to recommend his Perfections This Reasoning also is retorted by them that hold the inequality of the Persons in the supposed Trinity for they reply if there are three equally perfect Divine subsisting Persons two of them are redundant or more than needs If we suppose them say these Gentlemen unequal we leave but one God because the
a proper physical and natural Sense of the word God for the words God and Man are specifical Terms the former implies divers personal Gods as the other implies many personal and individual Men. He is so far from being ashamed of all this that he adds again Page 85. The Fathers of the Nicene Council nay the whole Eastern Church did appropriate a the title one God to the Father and God of God to the Son The Fathers meant thereby the Son is God not of or from himself but from or by or of the Father See what use Mr. J. B. makes of this at pag. 91. The Phrase God of God does necessarily imply a Multiplication of the term God in some Sense or other And one and the same numerical God in concreto can never be God of God and not God of God these two cannot be verified of the same Subject of one and the same God in concreto or in Person 'T is Heresy in excelsis and the last words in Person designed only to blind his true meaning or to mollifie it to those that happen to understand him do but increase the grossness of his Tritheism He hath said in those words in effect the Nicene Creed and Oriental Church acknowledging one who is God of God this God who is God of or from God cannot be the same God with him from or of whom he is God namely with God the Father these two must be several Subjects different Gods This avowed Tritheism I say is neither hid nor sofmed by adding different Gods in concreto or in Person for it was never said or so much as thought before that the multiplication of Persons in the Godhead or these expressions God the Father God the Son God the H. Spirit would warrant any one to say several Gods or that God of God is not the same both Subject and God with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit In short that which this Author and his Party of Realists intend and say though somewhat Covertly and Artificially is that as all the Men in the World in concreto are notwithstanding sometimes expressed by the general abstract word Man So the three Gods in concreto three Personal really subsisting Gods may also be expressed but they care not how seldom the seldomer the better by that scurvy Socinian abstract word God I have not made these short remarks on Mr. J. B. with a malevotent Intention to create Envy or to raise up Enemies to him I shall confess that as broadly as he has spoke St. Sasil Gregory Nyssen and other Fathers after the Year 380 so Taught and so Spoke and I have before given some instances of it as I shall give more in the Continuation of my Answer to Dr. BuII's Defence of the Nicene Faith and Judgment of the Catholick Church But all that I design is only to appeal to the World whether the Realists have not notoriously owned and professed their Tritheism with which they are charged not only by the Socinians but by the Nominals which is to say by the Church Dr. S th is but one Man he is only a private Doctor but he has rightly understood the Doctrine of the Church if a General Council were again to assemble they would certainly espouse his two Books he hath said neither more nor less nor otherwise than the Catholick Church since the Council of Lateran has constantly taught Mr. J. B. is a Learned and very discerning Person so are other Realists of this Nation I must not say of the English or of the Catholick Church for they are departed from both who have lately written against the Socinians but they have opposed to ours such an Explication of the words God Persons Trinity as Dr. S th hath deservedly called a Trinity of Gods nor will they be ever able to wipe off the Imputation Mr. J.B. must not think he has answered Dr. S th he hath only sometimes mistaken him sometimes misreported or perverted his plain and obvious Meaning or quarrelled with the Doctrine of the Schools and of the Lateran Council which is to say of the Catholick Church to make room for the exploded Tritheism of St. Basil and some other Fathers The Doctrine of the Catholick Church Mr. J.B. knows well can be fetched only from General Councils the Church is never understood to speak but by a General Council particular Fathers are but only particular Doctors they are not the Church how many soever they are Therefore I desire Mr. J. B. to tell me what Council ever used his Language that one Divine Person is one God as perfectly one God as one Angelical Person is one perfect Angel In what Council shall we find that the word God is equivalent to a Species which is to say the Divinity no less than the Humanity or the Manhood comprehends several Individuals of the same both Nature and Denomination as there are many Men in concreto so there are divers Gods also in concreto Can he direct us to that Council which teaches that God of God and God not of God that is Father and Son are not the same God or that the term God implies any Multiplication Did ever any Council so far apostatize from Christianity as to deny that there is but one numerical God and call that Doctrine the Faith of Jews Mahometans and Heathens But this is Mr. J. B's Language and the Doctrine of all the Realists they all intend as he has said nor will any of them censure his Book but applaud it as a great and extraordinary Performance I do not regard the Impertinences of Mr. Tho. Holdsworth of North-Stoneham near Southampton in his late Impar Conatui which he hath opposed to Mr. J. B. This Orlando has vomited up his Crudities on a Person too much above him to take notice of him and all that I shall trouble my self to say of him is that if as he has been careful to tell us the Place of his Residence and of his Vicinage so he had also told us his Age we might have guessed with more certainty than now we well can whether he raves or dotes The Realists speak much more Mystically or Absurdly than the Nominals I Must make another Remark on the Realists namely That the absurd contradictory and impossible Things partly expresty said by 'em partly implied in their Doctrine are far less tolerable or accountable than the forced Improprieties in the use of Words and Terms by the Nominals are I confess both Parties so often depart from the common use of Terms and Words that one as well as the other is frequently forced to the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Mystery when they cannot assoil the Difficulties objected to themselves by each other or by the Socinians to both when they find that the use of Words and the nature of Things are both against them they cry Mystery their Doctrine then they confess though a Truth is however a Mystery above the Capacity whether of themselves
to the Papists themselves as to us of the Reformation their Memory is glorious and ought to be precious also among us But we say also that the Augéan Stable was too foul to be absolutely cleansed at once even by Hercules and his Companions Dr. Luther did a great deal the Labours of his Companions and Seconds were very laudable but much Filth is still left behind We desire to be fairly and candidly heard concerning some corruptions in the Faith and some abuses in the Morality still taught and particularly which is the Subject of these present Papers concerning the Object of our Faith and Worship Almighty GOD. We see we own that the Doctrine of the Church meaning by the Church the Nominal Trinitarians is sound as to the Sense and Intention of it but we humbly offer that the Terms in which 't is expressed are Vnscriptural and very Dangerous The words Trinity Incarnation Hypostatical Vnion are never used in Scripture nor is God ever there called Persons but Person And 't is evident that by occasion of these Terms the Vulgar have such a conception of the Trinity as is certain Tritheism When the People hear of God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Ghost they know not that thereby are meant only so many Relations of God either internal Relations to himself or external Relations to the Creature but they conceive in their Minds such a Father Son and Spirit distinct from both as are so many several subsisting Spirits so many distinct All-perfect Beings in very Deed so many Living Gods and not one God under three several Conceptions For tho they are taught to say three Divine Persons and but one God and that God the Father God his Son and God the Holy Ghost tho each of them is God yet all of them are but one God this last all of them but one God because they know not how 't is to be conceived with the other namely that each of them is God and one of them is God the Father another God the Son they utterly lose the Conception of one God and retain only what is intelligible to them namely three Divine Persons each of them a God We think that the Church having gained her Point against the Fathers and Realists in the Lateran Council and having been in Possession of the Truth for near 500 Years together she may now fling off the Disguise hitherto used the dangerous Tritheistick terms Trinity Persons and the rest she may now begin to declare the Truth she owns in Terms and Words that are proper for it Why does she frown upon those nay persecute them that believe the Unity of God in the Sense that she holds it only because they would cast out the Terms that so plainly favour the Tritheists that is the Realists What has the Church to fear has not the Lateran Council and all Writers ever since declared the Realists to be Hereticks therefore what need is there to retain their Terms when we have discharged the Notions intended by them 'T is true we can say as the Church does three Divine Persons the Father is God the Son is God the Holy Ghost is God taking these words in the Church's Sense not for subsisting Persons that is to say Living Spirits but for Relations Properties Modes or such like We can say God was Incarnate meaning he did inhabit the Lord Christ after an ineffable manner and without Measure which is really as much as the Church intends by the word Incarnation We own the eternal Generation of the Son or Word and Procession of the Spirit by and from the Father explaining our selves with the School-Divines the Church and divers Fathers thus that God or the Father or original Wisdom conceived a most perfect Image of himself by understanding and considering his own Perfections and that he loveth or willeth as well as understandeth himself We can even say three Divine subsisting Persons intending with Dr. S th the Schools the Lateran Council and the Church Relative Subsistences whose Subsistence is nothing else but their Relation Which are Dr. S th's express words Tritheism charged p. 156. I cannot but ask it again why does the Church keep or impose on us such Words and Terms as in their present Signification destroy the Faith we both imbrace the Faith of the real Vnity of God We can say as the Church says we can use her Terms because we know her meaning but we cannot but say of them as Mr. Calvin did when ask'd his Opinion of the English Common-Prayers Tolerabiles Ineptiae For in very Deed 't is meer Trifling and something worse when the signification of these Terms and Words is wholly altered from what it antiently was yet still to retain them while the Church knows at the same Time that they give wrong Notions to the Vulgar making all our People Tritheists and serve also to animate and harden the Realists in their Heresy But I must do the Church this right to confess that most of her greatest Men particularly the first Reformers have publish'd to all the World their hearty desire that all these terms of the Realists were abolish'd and all were obliged to use the Scripture-Language and Words only which would heal all our Breaches and perfectly restore our Peace not only in this but in almost all other Questions and Strifes Let us hear of so many as might be alledged Dr. M. Luther and Mr. J. Calvin M. Luther complains The word Trinity sounds odly it were better to call Almighty God God than Trinity Postil major Dominic Mr. Calvin is yet less pleased with these kind of Terms he says I like not this Prayer O Holy Blessed and Glorious Trinity It savours of Barbarity the word Trinity is barbarous insipid profane an human Invention grounded on no Testimony of God's Word the Popish God unknown to the Prophets and Apostles Admon 1. ad Polon Decemb. 17. 1695. FINIS
the War against the Saracens in the Holy Land but really to raise a Crusade or Holy War against the Albigenses and to confirm the Vassalage of John King of England to the See of Rome against the Consent of the English Peerage that is in short to inlarge the Jurisdiction and increase the Authority of the Western Patriarch or Bishop of Rome 2. My second as I said incontestable Proof that the Nominal Trinitarians are the Church is that the Divinity-Chairs and all Writers whether of Controversy or Systems have ever followed the Doctrine of the Schools which is the Doctrine of the Nominal Trinitarians and the Creed and 2d Canon of the beforesaid Council of Lateran in declaring the Doctrine of the Trinity They all take it as the Council-Schools and Nominals do for their Foundation That there is but one only and self-same Divine Substance and in that Substance but one infinite Undestanding but one almighty Energy and Will in number Which is to say there is but one really Subsisting divine Person or God is but one subsisting Person tho in a Critical or Classical Sense of the word Persons namely when Persons is used only for various Relations of the same really subsisting Person we may say there are three Divine Persons A subsisting Person is by Confession of all one particular Substance having one Understanding Will and Energy or power of Action in number therefore God being according to the Council Schools and all Nominals one Substance or one particular spiritual Substance with one only Understanding Energy and Will he can be according to them but one subsisting Person tho he may be more Metaphysical or Classical Persons that is more Relations or Properties This I say is the Doctrine of that Council of the Schools and of the Nominal Trinitarians and it has always been approved and taught by the Divinity-Chairs and by the Writers both of Systems and Controversy therefore the Nominals not the Realists are the Church I shall grant that the real Trinitarians have on their side the most and most considerable of the Fathers reckoning from about the Year of Christ 140 and meaning those Fathers whose Writings have been suffered to come down to our Times and excepting out of the Number the Party in the first Nicen Council which some little time after the breaking up of that Council were considered as the Orthodox Party and the Church and were persecuted as such by the Arians But the Nominals have what is much more considerable all the Moderns accounting the Moderns from the Council of Lateran or the Year 1215. Since that Council Learning and more especially Theological Learning has not only been revived but greatly improved the later Divines have been better Criticks Interpreters Philosophers than the Fathers were and the two last Ages only have afforded more Hundreds of able Divines than there were single Persons of the Fathers Of the Latin Fathers only St. Jerem would have been accounted a Learned Divine in our Age and of the Greeks Origen Eusebius the two Gregories Basil St. John Chrysostom and four or five more had the rest wrote in any part of the two last Ages they should undoubtedly have been reckoned among the Scriblers The Nominals therefore if you demand Authority produce a General Council not only establishing their Hypothesis or Explication of the Trinity but denouncing Anathema to the contrary Doctrine and the Realists if you require a Poll if you will be judged by most Votes they have for them an hundred far more Learned Moderns against one Father who can be cited for their Opposers the Realists Why the Nominals are so called their Doctrine and Agreement with the Unitarians THE Church then as I said is unquestionably the Nominal Party and this Party is so called because as the Realists are denominated from their believing three distinct Divine Spirits or Minds who are so many real subsisting Persons so the Nominals believe three Divine Persons who are Persons in Name only indeed and in truth they are but one subsisting Person This will appear by all more fully and clearly by the account I shall now give in their own Words and Terms of their Doctrine Hypothesis or Explication The Nominals are one Party in several Subdivisions they must be called one Party because their Explications so far agree as really to leave but one God and one Divine Person properly and physically so called All the Divisions of the Nominals accord that there is but one only and self-same Divine Essence and Substance the Divine Substance according to them is one in Number not as the Realists hold one in Properties only which indeed were only a likeness of Substances not an Vnity As the Divine Substance is numerically One so according to the Nominals is the Divine Understanding Energy and Will they are not repeated as the Persons are but they are one as strictly and properly as the Essence or Substance is one Or more clearly if it may be thus as there is but one Divine spiritual Substance so there is but one omniscient Understanding but one omnipotent Energy but one most Holy Will. They allow indeed of three Persons in the Sense hereafter declared but all these Persons have but one Understanding one Will one Energy in Number Having laid this honest and sound Foundation they take a Latitude and without quarrelling with or censuring one another in declaring what is to be meant by the three Persons One saith they are only three Acts of God whereby he is denominated after three several manners On the account of his Creating Redeeming and Sanctifying Mankind he is called three Persons for say these Gentlemen a Creator is a Person a Redeemer is a Person a Sanctifier is a Person If you reply true but one Person may perform all these Acts and sustain all these Denominations they answer you have rightly understood them for they intend not to say there are three Divine physical or subsisting Persons but three Persons in a Critical or Classical or if you will Metaphysical sense of the word Persons For instance three such Persons as one Man who happens to be a King a Husband and a Father may be said to be Every Body knows who is that Learned Professor that preached this Trinity first in three Sermons to the University of Oxford with great applause afterwards maintained it with no less Approbation among the London Divines in divers Letters by him published The Socinians not only never denied three such Persons in God or such a Trinity but as willingly avow it as this Professor himself his Learned Auditory at Oxford or his Admirers at London Why are we Hereticks while he is not only confest to be Orthodox and Catholick but is esteemed as a worthy and deserving Apologist for the Faith Why may not the Author of the Brief Notes on the Creed of Athanasius or he of the Considerations on the Explications and Defences of the Trinity succeed to this Professor in his Canonship at
related it is such pitious Trifling as utterly destroys the Patience of the Realists that hear it while others think that the Philosopher who is said never to have laughed but once might even have done it a second Time on this ocasion In very Deed our Brother S th has need of all his Talents and Helps his Leisure Learning Wit Courage the Council of Lateran and all the Moderns to defend him against the insults of the Realists who have here so manifest an Advantage and are for the most part Men so able to take and manage it that he will find at length he has no way to rescue his Explication or himself but by Recriminating that is by shewing the as great Absurdity and plain Impossibility of the Explication of the Trinity b the Realists It may be worth while to inquire here whether the Nominals do not know or are not aware that in very deed they are Unitarians or as some call us Socinians I am of Opinion they are sensible of it and I ground my self on the express words of some of them and those too the most esteemed For example Dr. J. Wallis and Dr. S th intimate plainly enough that the Socinian Doctrine and theirs is the same Dr. Wallis answering to a Socinian in his 3d Letter or Vindication of the Athanasian Creed p. 62 63. has these words That which makes these Expressions he means the Terms used by Trinitarians especially this God is three Persons or three Persons are one God seem harsh to the Socinians is because they have used themselves to fancy that Notion only of the word Person according to which three Men are accounted to be three Persons and these three Persons to be three Men. But they may consider there is another Nation of the word Person and in common use too wherein the same Man may be said to sustain divers Persons and those Persons to be the same Man that is the same Man sustaining divers Capacities And then it will seem no more harsh to say the three Persons Father Son and Holy Ghost are one God than to say God the Creator God the Redeemer and God the Sanctifier is one God which I suppose even to this Answerer he means the Socinian to whom he is there answering would not seem harsh or be thought nonsense Here he saith these two things 1. That three Persons when affirmed of God are not to be taken as when we say three Men are three Persons but in that sense wherein the same Man is commonly he means by Grammarians and Classical Authors called three Persons because he hath three Capacities as suppose of a King an Husband and a Father This is the Sense in which God is said to be a Trinity or three Persons he hath these three Capacities of Creator Redeemer and Sanctifier and in that regard or sense is said to be three Persons 2. That to a Socinian this account not only will not be Non-sense but not so much as harsh or uncouth No one can deny that the Doctor well perceived that the Socinian Doctrine and his were indeed the same a Sicinian he says would not be offended at this Explication of a Trinity of Persons Person here not being intended for a subsisting Person as a particular Man is but for a Capacity only of a really subsisting Person And whereas the Socinian Author of the Considerations on the Explications of the Trinity had said if Dr. S th and the Nominal Party believe but one Divine Substance in Number which hath one only Understanding one Will one Energy or power of Action in Number he is a Socinian or Unitarian for in very Deed this is but one really subsisting Person Dr. S th nothing abash'd with his usual dexterity and presence of Mind answers to this effect That so he believes and so the Church believes and that 't is a good hearing that the Socinians are come over to him and to the Church or fal in with him and the Church I cannot at present find the particular page of Tritheism charged where this is said not having made a mark against those Lines but I remember well that I report rightly the Sense of the Passage His words need no Comment they are a plain acknowledgment that by that way of expressing themselves the Socinians fall in with the Church and with him But whereas he saith they fall in with the Church as the Socinians are content that in Honour to the Church it be so said so the English Vnitarians or as they call us Socinians claim it as their right to be owned the first Discoveres that all the Heats between the Church and the Socinians have arose from this only this they mistook one anothers true meaning by occasion of the canting un-scriptural Terms Trinity Persons and such like used by the Church For it is most true that tho for Peace-sake we submit to the Language of the Church as 't is interpreted bby the Nominals yet the Church's Terms are very improper for the same single numerical subsisting Person as the Church and the Socinians believe God to be is not now in any Language called three Persons by occasion of three Relations Modes or Properties adhering to him tho 't is confessed the Roman Classical Authors so spake But whereas the Nominals or the Church since the Council of Lateran that they may seem not to have departed from the Fathers still talk of Trinity Paternity Generation Procession Hypostatical Union Father Son and Spirit on which as we have seen they put such a meaning even those of them that speak most Harshly and Improperly as no ways destroys the Unity of God or that he is but one physical and subsisting Person and hereupon the Realists insult them as People that know not or at best heed not what they say the Socinians think 't is even necessary nay a due Justice to have more regard and respect for these their weak Brethren First We consider that after all the improper Terms impertinent Language and unsignificant and sometimes dangerous Words used by the Nominals all the Denominations of them agree at length in this Sound and Orthodox Explication and Conclusion that there is but one Divine intellectual Substance but one infinite Spirit but one subsisting Person of God Secondly The Nominals choose indeed to speak almost a Realist would say altogether Nonsensically and to retain the dangerous Tritheistical Terms of the Fathers Trinity c. but this was that they might restore the true Faith and genuine Christianity without Noise and Tumult the School-Divines and Council at Lateran reformed the corrupted Doctrine of the Church by only interpreting soberly and dextrously the Language and Terms which their Tritheistick Predecessors had brought into the Church into her very Liturgies and Creeds So many Councils so many Fathers and from them so many Nations had affirmed a Trinity of Divine Persons that to oppose this Doctrine would have begot endless Strises bitter Contentions and Persecutions and