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body_n you_o acknowledge_v both_o tertullians_n word_n and_o his_o meaning_n christ_n meaning_n dur_fw-fr augustine_n signify_v the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o name_n of_o figure_n whit_n pag_n 204._o it_o be_v true_a christ_n give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o his_o disciple_n but_o augustine_n use_v not_o the_o word_n sacrament_n but_o figure_n to_o show_v that_o as_o no_o figure_n or_o sign_n be_v the_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o fi_fw-la uâ—e_v so_o the_o bread_n be_v not_o proper_o the_o body_n nor_o the_o wâ—ne_a the_o blood_n of_o christ_n augustine_n say_v 3._o august_n in_o psal_n 3._o christ_n admit_v judas_n to_o that_o banquet_n in_o which_o he_o commend_v to_o his_o disciple_n the_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n in_o another_o place_n also_o it_o also_o dur_fw-fr augustine_n dispute_v in_o this_o pâ—ace_n against_o the_o manichee_n carp_a at_o moses_n word_n the_o blood_n be_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o beast_n and_o say_v it_o be_v so_o speak_v as_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v call_v his_o body_n the_o blood_n be_v call_v the_o soul_n because_o it_o be_v as_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o lie_v hide_v in_o the_o blood_n as_o the_o sacramet_n be_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v contain_v in_o it_o wh_o t_o pag._n 206._o nay_o i_o infer_v the_o contrary_a as_o the_o soul_n be_v not_o the_o blood_n when_o it_o be_v oâ—â—_n of_o the_o vein_n &_o may_v be_v eat_v so_o christ_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o as_o the_o blood_n be_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v not_o in_o it_o so_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o it_o the_o lord_n very_o doubt_v not_o to_o speak_v thus_o 12._o contra._n adimant_n cap._n 12._o this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n and_o that_o you_o may_v understand_v that_o this_o be_v augustine_n perpetual_a tenor_n in_o interpret_n of_o these_o word_n and_o that_o he_o 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