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A13155	An abridgement or suruey of poperie conteining a compendious declaration of the grounds, doctrines, beginnings, proceedings, impieties, falsities, contradictions, absurdities, fooleries, and other manifold abuses of that religion, which the Pope and his complices doe now mainteine, and vvherewith they haue corrupted and deformed the true Christian faith, opposed vnto Matthew Kellisons Suruey of the new religion, as he calleth it, and all his malicious inuectiues and lies, by Matthevv Sutcliffe.	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629.	1606 (1606)	STC 23448; ESTC S117929	224,206	342

reprochfull humours but neuer did Catholickes so teach the Apostle 2. Tim. 3. saith they are able to make vs wise to saluation and that they are giuen of God to make the man of God perfect S. Augustine lib. 2. de doct Christ c. 9. saith that all things necessarily belonging to faith or manners are conteined in plaine places of scriptures the ancient fathers do euery where speake honorably of scriptures and Ireney saith it is the propertie of heretikes when they are conuinced by scriptures to accuse them Secondly these are speciall points of Popery viz. that the Pope is the foundation head and spouse of the church that his decretales concerning matters of faith are infallible that vnwritten traditions are the word of God not written and equall to scriptures that the old Latine vulgar translation of the bible is authenticall for the most of this is deliuered and determined in the conuenticle of Trent sess 4. the rest is holden by the canonists and the Popes proctors these doctrines are contrarie to the wordes of the Apostle 1. Cor. 3. who sheweth vs that no other foundation can be laid but Christ Iesus and Ephes 2 where it is said that the faithfull are built vpon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Iesus Christ being the chiefe corner stone Irenaeus lib. 3. aduers haeres c. 1. sheweth that the scriptures are the pillar and foundation of our faith Chrysostome hom 6. in Matth. saith the church is Hierusalem whose foundations are laid vpon the mountains of the scriptures that the Pope should be the foundation of the church and not be subiect to error in determining matters of faith is contrary both to scriptures and fathers as I haue already shewed in my bookes de pontifice Rom. the diuersitie and contrarietie of diuers editions of the old Latine vulgar translation of the bible we haue proued heretofore that it differeth from the originall it is apparent and Arias Montanus Erasmus Caietan and diuers others acknowledge it the fathers in matters of doubt send vs to the originals the falshood of Romish traditions the repugnance betwixt them and scriptures I haue proued in my booke de scripturis against Bellarmine Thirdly the Papists allow no interpretations of scriptures against that sense Cont. Trident. sess 4. which the church of Rome holdeth contra eum sensum quam tenuit tenet sancta mater ecclesia and by the church they vnderstand the Pope principally but that was neuer the opinion of Catholikes nay the Pope and his followers allow diuers interpretations contrarie to the iudgement of all auncient fathers and catholikes they beleeue that these words of Christ feede my sheepe do properly belong to the Pope and that thereby he hath power to depose Princes these words Hiercm 1. I haue appomted thee ouer nations and kingdomes they transferre to the Pope Boniface the 8. in the chap. vnam sanctam extr demaior obed doth thereof conclude that the Pope hath power to iudge all earthly princes Innocent the 3. in the Chap. solitae de maior obed because it is said Genes 1. that God made a greater and lesser light in the firmament collecteth that the Pope is aboue the emperour Christ said do this in remēbrance of me they interpret it as if Christ had said offer vp my body and blood to my father and do it in remembrance of Angels and Saints Christ said search the scriptures and drinke yee all of this which they expound as if he had forbidden laie-men either to search scriptures or to receiue the cup. They haue also infinite other such like peruerse interpretations of scriptures contrarie to the exposition of Catholike fathers and yet stiffle maintaine them 4. Catholikes neuer allowed the legends of S. George S. Christopher S. Catherine S. Vrsula S. Cyprian the magician and such legends as the Papists reade in their churches publikely and beleeue them as traditions of their Elders and grounds of faith the legend of S. George of Cyricus Iulitta of Abgarus and of the inuention of the crosse is condemned by Gelasius c. sancta Romana dist 15. 5. Tho. Aquin. opusc cont errores Graec. saith it is a matter of faith to beleeue the determinatiō of tho Pope in matters belonging to saith or maners a matter neuer beleeued by Catholikes 6. Bellarmine and others say that the Popes lawes doe bind vs in conscience but this neuer entred into the thought of Catholikes S. Iames. c. 4. saith we haue only one lawgiuer and iudge that can saue and destroy 7. They beleeue that images are to he made and worshipped and consequently fil euery corner of their churches with images they also thinke it lawfull to picture God the father like an old man and the holy ghost in the figure of a doue but the law of God expressely forbiddeth the worship of grauen images and all such similitudes and Lactantius lib. 2. instil c. 19. saith there is no religion where such images are S. Augustine de fid symbolo saith that it is impious to place the image of God in the church tale simulachrum deo nefas est Christiano in templo collocare 8. The Iebusites of Collem in their censure teach that we are iustified by the law and that our life and saluation doth consist therein but the Apostle teacheth vs that the law is the minister of death and Irenaeus testifieth lib. 3. aduers haeres c. 20. that the law being spirituall doth only manifest sinne and not kill it and so doe Catholikes beleeue 9. The conuenticle of Trent sess 5. teacheth that concupiscence is not sinne in the regenerat but the Apostle Rom. 7. sheweth the concupiscence is sinne and all true Catholikes must needes confesse it seeing it is forbidden by the law 10 Bellarmine and his consorts beleeue that all Christians are able to performe the law perfectly but Catholickes beleeue that this sauoureth of Pelagianisme for if they be able to performe the law of God perfectly then may they liue without all sinne which Augustine and Hierome in their disputes against the Pelagians declare to be heresie 11 Papists beleeue that the Pope is able to dispence with oathes and to absolue subiects from their obedience and fealty to their Princes but Catholickes assure themselues that it is impious to take Gods name in vaine and to violate lawfull oathes vpon the Popes or any other mans warrant 12 Papists teach that the Virgin Mary was exempt from originall sinne as we may perceiue by Bellarmine lib. 4. de amiss grat c. 15. and by the decrerale of Sixtus 4. and this is the most common opinion but Catholickes thinke contrary for the Apostle Rom. 5. saith that through the offence of one all men are subiect to condemnation 13. They beleeue that the blessed virgins house was caried out of Galiley into Dalmatia and from thence into Italy by the ministery of Angels and that the same is now at Loreto but Catholikes laugh at such fables and esteeme the worship

we shall haue further occasion to speake hereafter Secondly seeing the Papistes are not certaine of their grounds it must needes follow that the religion of Papists is most vncertaine that they cannot be certain of their grounds diuers arguments declare for neither are they certaine whether Clement Leo or any other sitting in the Popes chayre be true Pope nor canne they assure themselues whether the decretales which goe vnder the names of Popes were indeed their decretales whose names they cary Antonius Contius a learned Papist in a certaine annotation of his added to the ch sancta dist 15. in Plantins edition saith that all the decretales set out vnder names of Popes before Siluester are false and this he saith he hath shewed manifestly further it cannot be proned that all the determinations of the Popes are right and equall nay contrarie we haue by diuers most certeine demonstrations prooued that both concerning scriptures faith the law sacraments praier the worship of God and diuers pointes of faith they haue determined contrary to the rule of saith as shall hereafter more particularly appeare Thirdly it were plaine impudencie to say that the Apostles instituted the consecration of the Paschal Lambes the forme of hallowing of churches salt water and all Popish trinkets the form of praying vpon beades and the rest of the Romish traditions neither shall Kellison euer be able to iustifie all those reportes which his teachers haue receiued by tradition and publikely heretofore set forth and now read out of their legendes Fourthly diuers of those 84. canons which goe vnder the names of the Apostles are disclaymed by the Papists themselues and the rest cannot be proued that they were made by the Apostles of the actes of the Nicene Councell the Papists themselues haue no certainty Most confesse 20. as Ruffin and Pope Stephen others in c. vigint dist 16. Gratian vnder the testimony of Athanasius telleth vs of 70. c. septuaginta dist 16. now one Alphonsus a pisa a Iebusite hath published 80. canons the acts of the councell supposed to be held vnder Siluester Bishop of Rome are all conterfeit as the barbarous stile and strange forme of gouernment represented in those acts and diuers barbarous names and other arguments doe signifie sometimes Peter Crabbe the collector of councels doth set downe diuers actes of councels not only differing but also repugnant one to another fiftly diuers bookes are set foorth vnder the name of fathers that no man can certeinly say were written by the fathers whose names they cary Nay some of them doe containe doctrine contrary to the faith professed by the fathers sixtly they are not certaine either what is the sense of the Romane church diuers doctors yeelding diuers interpretations of scriptures or what is the old Latine translation for Sixtus Quintus setteth out the old vulgar Latin translation after one sort and Clement the eight after another and he that alloweth the translation of Sixtus Quintus must nedes condemne that of Clement the eight contrariwise finally seeing diuers Papists assigne diuers grounds of their faith and scarce two of many doe agree in all points concerning their foundations and the assurance of them how can they pretend either vnity or certainty in their religion Thirdly the foundations of Popery being laid vpon false decretals and lying legends hardly shall our aduersaries be able to deny their religion to be false and full of lies that the Popes doe in their decretales report notorious lyes it is apparent by the decretale set out vnder the name of Innocentius c. quis nesciat dist 11. where he denieth that anie taught or gathered churches in France Spaine Afrike Italy beside S. Peter and those which were sent by him and his successors and likewise by the decretale of Gregorie the 4. c. in praeceptis dist 12. where it is said that all causes are to be referred to the church of Rome as to the head and from thence to receiue direction from whence it receiued his beginning and by the chapter in nouo dist 21. where it is said that the rest of the Apostles made Peter their Prince and infinit others that the legendes which are the ground and receptacle of many traditions are ful of lies I haue shewed els where if Kellison the Suruey or deny this let him proue vnto vs that S. George killed a dragon ready to deuour the kings daughter of Silena and conquered Palestine that Catharine ouercame 50. Philosophers and conuerted the Empresse and the general of the emperors army and broke a wheele with her praiers that with turning killed 4000. pagans that S. Nicholas being an infant fasted Wednesdaies and Fridaies that Bernacus yoked harts that Saint Brendan sayled into Paradise that a crucifixe of wood resaluted Bartilmew a monke of Durrham that the blessed Virgins body was caried into heauen by Angels that her house was carried ouer the seas first into Dalmatia and then into Italy and lastly to Loreto and the rest of those tales Fourthly the Pope being the foundation of the church it followeth that as oft as the Pope dieth the church is without foundation it followeth also that the Pope going to hell as it appeareth by the chap. Sipapa dist 40. that he may the foundation of the Church should lie in hell that the Pope falling into heresie as Liberius Honorius 1. Iohn the 22. and diuers others haue done that the Church should faile which be matters absurd and impious to affirme Fifthly feeing diuers old traditions are now out of vse as for example that of celebrating baptisme at Easter and praying standing betwixt Easter and Whitsontide and of praying with our faces turned to the East and such like it must needes be granted that the foundations of Popery are ruinous for why may not the like happen to other traditions as to these and if traditions be temporary and ruinous which they make equall to holy scriptures what can they alleadge for the continuance and perpetuity of the Popes decretales which are not only contrarie to holy Scriptures but also repugnant one to another Sixthly the old translation differing from it selfe in the editions of Sixtus Quintus and Clement the eigth and others set out at Colein Louain and Antwerpe and much more from the originall bookes of the old Testament in Hebrew and new in Greeke and the interpretations of the scriptures being so diuers in the chiefe doctors of the Romish church and so repugnant to the meaning of the holy Ghost it doth necessarily follow that Popish religion is composed of contrary pieces and cannot be the faith of Christ which is one and hath onely one firme foundation Finally there can bee no consent or vnity in the points of Popish doctrine for that the same consisteth of contrary opinions of Popes and is grounded vpon contrary traditions contrary legends contrary interpretations of fathers and schoolemen and either of traditions or decretales contrary to scriptures or of sentences of fathers contrary to