scripture_n and_o in_o the_o father_n and_o the_o general_a sense_n of_o traditio_fw-la with_o the_o latin_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o the_o greek_a of_o cabbala_n or_o masore_v with_o the_o hebrew_n be_v the_o same_o namely_o a_o delivery_n or_o any_o thing_n deliver_v aswell_o by_o 15._o by_o â—_o thâ—â—_n â—_o 15._o epistle_n as_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n the_o word_n tradition_n be_v take_v aswell_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o delivery_n which_o be_v traditio_fw-la activa_fw-la as_o for_o the_o matter_n deliver_v which_o be_v traditio_fw-la passiva_fw-la and_o therefore_o lest_o the_o jesuite_n who_o be_v well_o skill_a in_o the_o practice_n of_o equivocation_n shall_v equivocate_v with_o the_o word_n tradition_n and_o so_o prove_v quid_fw-la pro_fw-la quo_fw-la the_o manner_n of_o delivery_n for_o the_o matter_n deliver_v the_o answer_n show_v he_o that_o we_o admit_v modum_fw-la tradendi_fw-la the_o answer_n answer_n manner_n of_o delivery_n we_o willing_o 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jesuite_n to_o prove_v that_o which_o no_o man_n doubt_v he_o allege_v the_o father_n as_o 118_o as_o iren._n pag._n 118_o irenaeus_n 120._o irenaeus_n euscb_n pag._n 120._o eusebius_n &_o many_o more_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostles_n preach_v before_o they_o write_v &_o that_o their_o preach_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v &_o be_v effectual_a to_o save_v soulâ—s_n aswell_o as_o their_o writing_n in_o this_o he_o shrink_v from_o the_o question_n which_o be_v not_o whether_o the_o apostle_n preach_v before_o they_o write_v &_o whether_o their_o preach_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v but_o thâ—â—_n he_o shall_v frame_v the_o question_n whether_o the_o apostle_n in_o their_o preach_v deliver_v such_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o doctrine_n of_o salvation_n as_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n 2._o as_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v a_o tradition_n so_o be_v their_o delivery_n of_o the_o scripture_n &_o of_o divers_a doctrine_n contain_v in_o they_o call_v a_o tradition_n be_v deliver_v unto_o the_o church_n by_o writing_n â—6_n writing_n traditum_fw-la est_fw-la nobis_fw-la quod_fw-la sit_fw-la unus_fw-la deus_fw-la &_o una_fw-la spes_fw-la &_o una_fw-la side_n etc._n etc._n august_n de_fw-fr baptism_n l._n 5._o c._n â—6_n it_o be_v dell_n vere_v unto_o we_o say_v s._n august_n in_o that_o there_o be_v one_o god_n one_o hope_n one_o faith_n etc._n etc._n as_o this_o kind_n of_o tradition_n come_v not_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o this_o controversy_n so_o these_o father_n 125._o father_n irenaeus_n pag._n 125._o irâ—naus_n 120_o irâ—naus_n euseb_n pag._n 109._o 120_o eusebius_n and_o sundry_a other_o be_v impertinent_o produce_v by_o the_o jesuite_n who_o ascribe_v the_o word_n tradition_n unto_o scripture_n and_o unto_o write_v doctrine_n in_o this_o the_o jesuite_n shrink_v again_o from_o the_o question_n which_o be_v not_o whether_o the_o scripture_n may_v be_v call_v a_o traâ—â—tion_n but_o whether_o all_o thing_n necessary_a for_o 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whether_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n may_v be_v call_v a_o tradition_n but_o whether_o in_o their_o practice_n of_o piety_n they_o observe_v any_o holy_a duty_n necessary_a for_o our_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n either_o express_o or_o by_o consequence_n we_o likewise_o admit_v the_o active_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n as_o 1._o her_o preserve_n and_o delivery_n of_o the_o write_a word_n unto_o her_o child_n in_o succeed_a age_n not_o as_o the_o mean_n whereby_o the_o scripture_n be_v make_v canonical_a yet_o as_o one_o good_a mean_n though_o not_o as_o the_o only_a mean_n whereby_o a_o man_n may_v be_v persuade_v that_o it_o be_v canonical_a and_o the_o grant_v of_o this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o a_o deal_n of_o confuse_a stuff_n allege_v by_o the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o 4._o section_n 2._o her_o delivery_n viuâ_fw-la voce_fw-la of_o the_o form_n of_o wholesome_a word_n and_o of_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v either_o express_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n or_o by_o sound_a inference_n may_v be_v deduce_v from_o they_o s._n fide_fw-la s._n basil_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la basil_n be_v spare_v to_o use_v such_o word_n as_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n but_o the_o pontifical_a romanist_n spare_v not_o to_o bring_v in_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o it_o for_o word_n we_o say_v with_o hilary_n word_n arian_n word_n nomen_fw-la nihâ—â—_n habeteriminiâ—_n quod_fw-la non_fw-la perturbat_fw-la sensum_fw-la religionis_fw-la hilar_n de_fw-fr synod_n count_v arian_n be_v not_o to_o be_v blame_v which_o disturb_v not_o the_o sense_n of_o religion_n all_o thing_n be_v not_o deliver_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d verbatim_o in_o the_o scripture_n i_o read_v not_o the_o word_n essence_n person_n unbegotten_a coessential_a yet_o we_o do_v lawful_o use_v they_o all_o doctrine_n be_v not_o formal_o lay_v down_o in_o they_o the_o apostle_n creed_n be_v not_o totidem_fw-la verbis_fw-la write_v in_o they_o yet_o they_o contain_v ground_n &_o principle_n by_o which_o all_o doctrine_n may_v be_v try_v and_o from_o which_o all_o divine_a conclusion_n may_v be_v draw_v and_o those_o conclusion_n which_o by_o sound_a inference_n be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o opinion_n of_o theolog_fw-la of_o greg_n nazian_n l._n 5._o de_fw-la theolog_fw-la gregory_n nazian_n be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o scripture_n and_o to_o this_o 1_o this_o stapleton_n relect_v fidei_fw-la controv_fw-mi 5._o q._n 5._o be_v 1_o stapleton_n consent_v by_o this_o kind_n of_o tradition_n we_o be_v teach_v many_o point_n of_o say_v as_o these_o father_n prove_v which_o the_o jesuite_n allege_v abundant_o and_o impertinent_o by_o 140._o by_o athanas_n pag._n 140._o athanasius_n and_o 145._o and_o epiph_n pag._n 145._o epiphanius_n that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a by_o 140._o by_o athanas_n pag._n 140._o athanasius_n and_o 155._o and_o august_n pag._n 155._o augustine_n that_o the_o son_n be_v consubstantial_a with_o the_o father_n by_o 150._o by_o basil_n pag._n 150._o basil_n and_o 119_o and_o aug._n pag._n 119_o augustine_n that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v by_o 126._o by_o origen_n pag._n 126._o origen_n and_o 126_o and_o august_n pag._n 118._o 119._o &_o 126_o augustine_n that_o child_n must_v be_v baptize_v by_o augustine_n that_o the_o baptise_a by_o heretic_n must_v not_o be_v rebaptise_v he_o alone_o be_v allege_v for_o this_o point_n but_o yet_o for_o want_v of_o company_n he_o be_v so_o 11â—_n so_o augustin_n pag._n 116._o 116._o 146._o 148._o ideâ—â—_n pag._n 118._o &_o 147_o idem_fw-la pag._n 119._o &_o 148._o pag._n 11â—_n oft_o bring_v in_o still_o sing_v the_o same_o song_n that_o the_o music_n must_v needs_o be_v tedious_a to_o the_o hearer_n and_o the_o quotation_n troublesome_a to_o the_o reader_n the_o jesuite_n again_o shrink_v from_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n in_o allege_v these_o father_n as_o patron_n of_o a_o tradition_n which_o we_o defend_v the_o question_n
therefore_o though_o they_o be_v glorious_a thing_n in_o your_o eye_n they_o be_v not_o holy_a that_o of_o origen_n which_o the_o jesuite_n allege_v concern_v the_o baptise_n of_o child_n that_o it_o be_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n be_v 11._o be_v sect._n 4._o divis_fw-la 11._o former_o answer_v hippolytus_n the_o martyr_n in_o his_o three_o homily_n against_o the_o heresy_n of_o noetus_n there_o be_v one_o god_n who_o we_o do_v not_o otherwise_o answer_n answer_n acknowledge_v but_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o as_o he_o that_o will_v profess_v the_o wisdom_n of_o this_o world_n can_v otherwise_o attain_v hereunto_o unless_o he_o read_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o philosopher_n sâ—_n whosoever_o of_o we_o will_v exercise_v piety_n towards_o god_n can_v learn_v this_o elsewhere_o but_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n all_o this_o run_v upon_o the_o same_o strain_n with_o that_o which_o 13â—_n reply_v pag._n 13â—_n you_o even_o now_o produce_v out_o of_o origen_n and_o therefore_o as_o you_o repeat_v the_o same_o so_o we_o return_v you_o the_o same_o answer_n and_o withal_o we_o desire_v you_o with_o this_o holy_a martyr_n to_o understand_v whatsoever_o the_o scripture_n do_v teach_v for_o they_o teach_v you_o to_o hold_v such_o tradition_n as_o the_o apostle_n give_v whether_o by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n they_o teach_v you_o to_o hearken_v unto_o the_o church_n 4._o hippolytus_n here_o take_v the_o same_o oath_n with_o origen_n &_o both_o give_v their_o verdict_n against_o unwritten_a tradition_n this_o be_v the_o same_o strain_n upon_o which_o they_o run_v his_o answer_n unto_o that_o of_o origen_n be_v already_o confute_v &_o if_o this_o be_v the_o same_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v no_o wise_a than_o the_o former_a but_o threadbare_a and_o wear_v out_o at_o the_o elbow_n i_o need_v not_o again_o confute_v it_o it_o can_v fit_v with_o the_o word_n of_o this_o holy_a martyr_n for_o as_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o say_v the_o wisdom_n of_o this_o world_n may_v be_v attain_v unto_o by_o read_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o philosopher_n &_o then_o to_o interpret_v this_o not_o immediate_o by_o read_v their_o writing_n but_o mediate_o by_o go_v to_o the_o live_a philosopher_n so_o it_o be_v as_o absurd_a to_o say_v our_o piety_n towards_o god_n may_v be_v learn_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n &_o then_o to_o interpret_v this_o not_o immediate_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o but_o mediate_o by_o go_v to_o the_o church_n yea_o it_o be_v more_o absurd_a because_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o philosopher_n be_v not_o so_o well_o able_a to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a for_o the_o world_n as_o the_o scripture_n be_v to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a unto_o salvation_n the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o to_o â—â—ld_v such_o tradition_n as_o the_o apostle_n give_v but_o they_o teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n both_o by_o scripture_n and_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n this_o make_v nothing_o for_o popish_a tradition_n such_o the_o apostle_n never_o give_v by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n they_o teach_v we_o to_o hearken_v unto_o the_o church_n when_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v consonant_a with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o to_o hearken_v unto_o the_o church_n when_o it_o teaâ—heth_v otherwise_o 16._o otherwise_o jen_fw-fr â—3_n 16._o thus_o say_v the_o lord_n of_o host_n harken_v not_o unto_o the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n that_o prophesy_v unto_o you_o and_o teach_v you_o vanity_n they_o speak_v the_o vision_n of_o their_o own_o heart_n and_o not_o out_o of_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lord_n athanasius_n in_o his_o â—ratian_n against_o the_o gentile_n the_o holy_a answer_v â—_o answer_v scripture_n give_v by_o inspiration_n of_o god_n be_v of_o themselves_o sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n 5._o this_o be_v a_o evident_a testimony_n direct_o opposite_a to_o the_o position_n of_o our_o adversary_n which_o they_o have_v learn_v from_o condemn_a heretic_n 2._o heretic_n iren._n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o that_o truth_n cannot_v be_v find_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o they_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o tradition_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n paint_v this_o likewise_o with_o false_a colour_n answer_v first_o the_o scripture_n discover_v this_o truth_n that_o we_o must_v 139._o reply_v p._n 139._o â—old_a fast_o unwritten_a tradition_n we_o have_v oft_o discover_v this_o to_o be_v a_o untruth_n and_o for_o the_o better_a discovery_n of_o it_o we_o will_v observe_v one_o thing_n more_o from_o the_o force_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o athanasius_n use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v not_o a_o mediate_a sufficiency_n as_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n because_o they_o send_v we_o to_o the_o church_n nor_o such_o a_o sufficiency_n as_o need_v any_o other_o help_n as_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n by_o have_v the_o help_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n join_v with_o they_o but_o as_o lambine_v in_o his_o note_n upon_o aristotle_n ethic_n observe_v 7._o observe_v plurâ—bus_fw-la verâ—â—is_fw-la haec_fw-la vox_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cvi_fw-la nulla_fw-la respondet_fw-la latina_n est_fw-la de_fw-la claranda_fw-la est_fw-la autem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v qui_fw-la â—â—s_o bonis_fw-la contentur_fw-la satisque_fw-la copiosè_fw-la instructus_fw-la est_fw-la quique_fw-la nullas_fw-la externas_fw-la opes_fw-la desiderat_fw-la lamb._n in_o arislot_n ethic._n â—â—_o c._n 7._o this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v be_v express_v by_o more_o word_n for_o there_o be_v no_o one_o latin_a word_n that_o can_v full_o declare_v it_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v conâ—ent_v with_o his_o own_o store_n and_o be_v furnish_v with_o enough_o and_o with_o abundant_a and_o desit_v no_o other_o helpâ—_n it_o be_v such_o a_o selfâ—-sufficienciâ—_a as_o be_v in_o the_o heavenly_a kingdom_n of_o which_o theophylact_n say_v 18._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theophyl_n in_o joh._n 18._o it_o be_v sufficient_a and_o need_v nothing_o such_o than_o be_v the_o fullness_n and_o the_o selfe-sufficiencie_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o it_o have_v store_n in_o itself_o it_o be_v full_o furnish_v yea_o so_o abundant_o that_o it_o need_v not_o the_o help_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n to_o discover_v any_o truth_n athanasius_n here_o speak_v not_o of_o all_o truth_n but_o of_o two_o special_a 130._o reply_v p._n 130._o point_n of_o faith_n only_o to_o wit_n that_o idol_n be_v not_o god_n and_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o only_a true_a god_n concern_v which_o two_o article_n he_o write_v thâ—se_a two_o book_n to_o maearius_n and_o for_o the_o discovery_n of_o those_o two_o point_n the_o holy_a father_n say_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a as_o in_o these_o two_o book_n to_o macariâ—s_n he_o write_v of_o these_o two_o point_n and_o also_o of_o many_o other_o point_n for_o in_o the_o first_o he_o write_v of_o the_o deity_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o second_o of_o christ_n manhood_n his_o incarnation_n death_n resurrection_n etc._n etc._n so_o here_o he_o speak_v not_o only_o of_o those_o two_o point_n but_o of_o all_o truth_n in_o general_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n and_o therefore_o in_o his_o tractate_n of_o christ_n incarnation_n he_o tax_v they_o of_o great_a iâ—â—destiâ—_n which_o speakâ—_n the_o â—hings_n which_o be_v noâ—_n write_v athanasius_n in_o that_o plaâ—e_n make_v mention_v not_o only_o of_o the_o 13â—_n reply_v p._n 13â—_n holy_a scripture_n but_o also_o of_o the_o book_n of_o holy_a father_n and_o to_o both_o do_v he_o attribute_v this_o sufficiency_n forasmuch_o as_o a_o man_n by_o read_v of_o those_o book_n may_v discover_v the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n this_o be_v not_o the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o this_o father_n in_o the_o word_n follow_v though_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o father_n yet_o he_o never_o intend_v to_o impart_v any_o part_n of_o this_o sufficiency_n unto_o they_o or_o to_o make_v they_o equal_a with_o scripture_n as_o you_o do_v with_o tradition_n but_o he_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v good_a commentary_n or_o help_n for_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n his_o word_n be_v these_o there_o be_v also_o many_o book_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o which_o if_o a_o â—an_v employ_v himself_o he_o may_v in_o some_o sort_n attain_v unto_o the_o interpretution_n of_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o say_v that_o by_o read_v of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o father_n a_o man_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n attain_v unto_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n &_o
christian_a people_n come_v by_o divine_a tradition_n 22._o in_o both_o these_o place_n leo_n write_v of_o ritual_a tradition_n as_o of_o set_v day_n of_o fast_v concern_v which_o we_o confess_v wiâ—h_n s._n augustine_n casul_n augustine_n â—â—ceptum_fw-la esse_fw-la jejunium_fw-la qâ—â—bus_fw-la autem_fw-la diebus_fw-la non_fw-la oporteâ—â—ejunare_fw-la &_o qâ—bâ—â—o_v porteâ—_n praece_n to_o domini_fw-la vel_fw-la apostolorâ—m_fw-la noâ—nâ—enio_fw-la de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d aug._n câ—â—st_v â—â—_o ad_fw-la casul_n thâ—â—_n the_o duty_n of_o fast_v be_v common_a ded_fw-we but_o on_o what_o day_n we_o must_v fast_o and_o when_o we_o must_v not_o fast_o we_o find_v nâ—t_v this_o determine_v by_o precept_n of_o the_o lord_n nor_o of_o his_o apostle_n what_o then_o shall_v we_o dâ—â—_n in_o this_o case_n may_v we_o conteâ—â—e_v the_o observance_n of_o aâ—y_n fast_v day_n no_o for_o if_o we_o live_v in_o such_o a_o place_n where_o such_o day_n be_v by_o tradition_n decree_v and_o by_o custom_n establish_v it_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o obey_v authority_n in_o such_o a_o case_n remember_v always_o to_o distinguish_v these_o custom_n as_o leo_n there_o call_v they_o from_o god_n commandment_n and_o if_o leo_n speak_v any_o thing_n hyperbolical_o concern_v such_o ritual_a tradition_n we_o do_v excuse_v he_o because_o have_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o defend_v they_o he_o strain_v his_o wit_n to_o find_v out_o argument_n to_o commend_v they_o he_o make_v no_o difference_n between_o divine_a &_o apostolical_a tradition_n &_o whole_o take_v away_o all_o ecclesiastical_a tradition_n whereby_o he_o overthrow_v that_o know_a division_n of_o tradition_n into_o divine_a apostolical_a &_o ecclesiastical_a our_o adversary_n have_v need_v to_o excuse_v he_o in_o this_o the_o two_o subsequent_a testimony_n the_o one_o of_o chrysâ—stome_n the_o other_o of_o epiphantus_n be_v â—1_n be_v chrysoâ—â—_n sect_n 3._o divis_n aâ—_n epiphan_n sect._n 2._o divis_n â—1_n already_o answer_v i_o proceed_v to_o that_o which_o he_o object_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n concern_v the_o custom_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a at_o the_o time_n of_o administration_n of_o the_o divine_a mystery_n 7â—_n mystery_n epiphan_n hâ—res_v 76._o it_o be_v haeres_fw-la 7â—_n the_o 149._o reply_v p._n 149._o church_n perform_v this_o necessary_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o tradition_n from_o the_o father_n and_o who_o may_v dissolve_v the_o ordinance_n of_o his_o mother_n or_o the_o law_n of_o his_o father_n god_n the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v tâ—ught_v both_o in_o the_o scripture_n &_o without_o writing_n &_o the_o church_n our_o mother_n have_v inviolable_a statute_n lay_v up_o in_o she_o which_o may_v not_o be_v break_v 23._o the_o mâ—aning_n of_o epiphanius_n in_o this_o place_n be_v most_o evident_o declare_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a primate_n in_o his_o 23â—_n his_o pag._n 23â—_n answer_n such_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o be_v general_o use_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n want_v not_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n to_o consirme_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o they_o as_o s._n paul_n pray_v for_o oâ—esiphâ—rus_n while_o he_o be_v alive_a so_o may_v we_o pray_v for_o he_o be_v dead_a 18._o dead_a 2._o tim._n 1._o 18._o the_o lord_n grant_v unto_o he_o that_o he_o may_v find_v mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o that_o day_n but_o such_o prayer_n as_o be_v use_v by_o our_o adversary_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v not_o warrant_v by_o scripture_n nor_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n not_o by_o scripture_n because_o this_o be_v one_o of_o their_o unwritten_a tradition_n not_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n because_o the_o primitive_a church_n deny_v purgatory_n and_o yet_o hold_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a but_o our_o adversary_n hold_v 91._o hold_v aquinas_n contgent_fw-fr l._n 4._o c_o 91._o that_o if_o purgatory_n be_v not_o admit_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v unprofitable_a i_o need_v not_o light_v my_o candle_n to_o give_v light_n to_o this_o truth_n for_o the_o light_n of_o this_o truth_n shine_v as_o bright_a as_o the_o sun_n in_o the_o answer_n to_o this_o article_n the_o doctrine_n how_o the_o dead_a may_v be_v pray_v for_o differ_v from_o the_o practice_n in_o pray_v for_o they_o at_o such_o a_o time_n namely_o at_o the_o administer_a of_o the_o sacred_a mystery_n epiphanius_n write_v of_o the_o latter_a of_o these_o &_o for_o not_o observe_v of_o this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n he_o condemn_v aerius_n in_o the_o word_n allege_v the_o church_n do_v perform_v this_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o tradition_n from_o the_o father_n and_o who_o may_v dissolve_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o ordinance_n of_o his_o mother_n as_o we_o have_v 10._o have_v sect._n 4._o divis_n 10._o show_v former_o so_o here_o we_o see_v it_o again_o this_o practice_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a at_o such_o a_o time_n be_v place_v by_o epiphanius_n among_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o this_o nature_n be_v all_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o say_v be_v deliver_v and_o teach_v without_o writing_n these_o be_v not_o the_o tradition_n against_o which_o we_o bend_v our_o force_n cassiodorus_n also_o read_v this_o lessâ—n_n 1_o lessâ—n_n cassiod_n instil_v divin_fw-fr l._n 1_o let_v we_o not_o doubt_v to_o 150._o reply_v pag._n 150._o mount_v up_o into_o the_o height_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o approve_a exposition_n of_o the_o father_n as_o it_o be_v by_o a_o certain_a ladder_n of_o jacobs_n vision_n 24._o we_o have_v ascend_v so_o high_a upon_o the_o ladder_n of_o the_o father_n approve_a exposition_n that_o we_o descry_v the_o falsehood_n of_o your_o tradition_n this_o ladder_n say_v cassiodorus_n shall_v bring_v we_o to_o the_o sight_n of_o our_o lord_n but_o behold_v the_o pope_n sit_v on_o the_o top_n of_o this_o ladder_n to_o overturn_a all_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v approve_v by_o he_o yea_o all_o the_o father_n &_o the_o scripture_n too_o have_v he_o put_v under_o his_o foot_n so_o that_o whatsoever_o exposition_n he_o give_v of_o scripture_n though_o it_o cross_v the_o sense_n the_o father_n give_v yet_o say_v 7._o say_v cusin_n ad_fw-la â—o_o 〈◊〉_d epist_n 7._o cusâ—nus_n it_o must_v be_v believe_v because_o the_o sense_n run_v with_o the_o practice_n and_o the_o scripture_n follow_v the_o church_n and_o not_o the_o church_n the_o scripture_n 150._o reply_v p._n 150._o s._n basil_n persuade_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d thus_o basil_n hâ—â—_n coâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d let_v the_o tradition_n of_o our_o lord_n terrify_v thou_o our_o lord_n himself_o have_v give_v this_o lessâ—n_n the_o apostle_n have_v preach_v it_o the_o father_n have_v observe_v it_o and_o the_o martyr_n have_v confirm_v it_o 25._o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n this_o be_v the_o point_n which_o s._n basil_n proove_v and_o lest_o thou_o shall_v separate_v the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o father_n &_o the_o son_n say_v he_o let_v the_o tradition_n of_o our_o lord_n terrify_v thou_o etc._n etc._n this_o shall_v terrify_v the_o jesuite_n to_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o hold_v it_o be_v not_o write_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n our_o lord_n himself_o have_v give_v this_o lessâ—n_n john_n 14._o 26._o the_o apostle_n have_v preach_v it_o &_o write_v it_o 1._o john_n 5._o 7._o s._n basil_n observe_v it_o in_o the_o word_n precedent_n by_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v lay_v down_o math._n 28._o 19_o and_o all_o god_n saint_n be_v ready_a to_o confirm_v it_o with_o their_o blood_n he_o be_v a_o arch-haereticke_a &_o deserve_v the_o stake_n rather_o than_o a_o answer_n that_o account_v it_o not_o write_v doctrine_n in_o the_o end_n he_o conclude_v with_o the_o say_n of_o 61_o of_o basil_n epist_n 61_o basil_n and_o of_o 67._o of_o hormisd_a epist_n 67._o hormisda_n apply_v unto_o we_o that_o we_o condemn_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n despise_v apostolical_a tradition_n sell_v the_o invention_n of_o upstart_n have_v none_o of_o that_o charity_n which_o be_v commend_v be_v so_o puff_v up_o with_o arrogancy_n that_o we_o imagine_v that_o all_o judgement_n of_o heaveâ—_n and_o earth_n ought_v to_o yield_v to_o our_o opinion_n that_o worldly_a wisdom_n detest_a the_o glory_n of_o christ_n his_o cross_n domineâ—reth_v in_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a place_n 26._o s._n paul_n describe_v the_o worst_a of_o man_n that_o ever_o be_v or_o shall_v be_v by_o these_o property_n 3_o property_n â—_o tim._n 3._o 3_o they_o be_v false_a accuser_n intemperate_a fierce_a despiser_n of_o they_o that_o be_v good_a traitor_n etc._n etc._n these_o be_v the_o proper_a mark_n of_o jesuite_n they_o be_v always_o false_a accuser_n &_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o this_o detract_n stander_a &_o carp_a moâ—us_n shall_v accuse_v we_o thus_o false_o nero_n set_v rome_n on_o fire_n and_o lay_v the_o blame_n
be_v great_a reason_n to_o take_v away_o marriage_n from_o priest_n but_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n to_o restore_v it_o unto_o they_o again_o and_o so_o we_o proceed_v to_o his_o next_o section_n the_o title_n whereof_o be_v this_o sect_n viii_o for_o what_o cause_n all_o heretic_n have_v be_v accustom_v to_o reject_v apostolical_a tradition_n when_o i_o first_o read_v the_o title_n of_o this_o section_n i_o expect_v no_o other_o stuff_n than_o i_o find_v therein_o even_o a_o deal_n of_o bombast_n to_o stuff_n it_o out_o and_o as_o the_o title_n be_v a_o digression_n so_o the_o whole_a section_n consist_v of_o three_o digression_n from_o the_o question_n the_o 1._o be_v of_o the_o affinity_n of_o heresy_n and_o idolatry_n the_o 2._o about_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n the_o 3._o be_v touch_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tradition_n concern_v the_o 1._o he_o begin_v thus_o the_o reader_n must_v observe_v that_o heresy_n be_v a_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n 15â—_n reply_v pag._n 15â—_n for_o as_o s._n cyprian_n observe_v eccles_n observe_v câ—prian_n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n the_o enemy_n of_o mankind_n perceive_v how_o by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n and_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o his_o faith_n man_n be_v draw_v from_o idolatry_n unto_o the_o true_a service_n of_o god_n he_o be_v think_v himself_o how_o by_o a_o new_a illusion_n he_o may_v entrap_v poor_a soul_n under_o the_o very_a title_n and_o profession_n of_o christianity_n hereupon_o say_v s._n cyprian_n he_o invent_v new_a heresy_n and_o schism_n we_o confess_v all_o this_o and_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o with_o you_o be_v these_o thing_n idolatry_n heresy_n &_o only_o the_o title_n of_o christianity_n or_o a_o show_n of_o godliness_n there_o be_v never_o great_a idolatry_n among_o the_o heathen_n then_o be_v at_o this_o day_n defend_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o which_o cause_n namely_o for_o her_o idolatry_n s._n john_n compare_v she_o unto_o 11â—_n unto_o revel_v 11â—_n egypt_n this_o be_v descend_v unto_o she_o from_o the_o ancient_a heathen_n as_o this_o heresy_n of_o unwritten_a doctrine_n to_o perfect_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v descend_v unto_o she_o from_o the_o ancient_a heretic_n as_o for_o the_o title_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o outward_a form_n of_o godliness_n this_o be_v all_o you_o have_v to_o brag_v of_o you_o be_v wolf_n in_o sheep_n skin_n you_o have_v the_o horn_n of_o the_o lamb_n but_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o dragon_n as_o s._n john_n 11_o john_n revel_v 13._o 11_o describe_v you_o you_o speak_v lie_n in_o hypocrisy_n as_o if_o they_o be_v truth_n and_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n that_o be_v the_o covert_n of_o piety_n be_v the_o only_a mean_n whereby_o you_o entrap_v poor_a soul_n to_o free_v themselves_o from_o idolatry_n he_o give_v a_o strange_a description_n of_o it_o idolatry_n place_v a_o senseless_a creature_n in_o god_n stâ—â—d_n do_v â—59_n reply_v pag._n â—59_n give_v religious_a worship_n thereunto_o a_o senseless_a description_n and_o yet_o as_o senseless_a as_o it_o be_v such_o idolatry_n you_o be_v guilty_a of_o in_o worship_v of_o idol_n of_o silver_n and_o gold_n and_o of_o brass_n etc._n etc._n if_o a_o man_n worship_v the_o devil_n be_v it_o not_o idolatry_n yet_o he_o be_v no_o senseless_a creature_n your_o demi_fw-fr god_n the_o pope_n be_v a_o heretical_a idol_n to_o who_o that_o may_v well_o be_v apply_v which_o you_o lay_v to_o our_o charge_n for_o he_o be_v set_v up_o on_o the_o altar_n of_o your_o soul_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n he_o be_v so_o far_o besot_v with_o a_o selfe-liking_a of_o his_o own_o opinion_n that_o he_o tread_v underfoot_a all_o other_o authority_n both_o divine_a &_o humane_a as_o the_o power_n of_o scripture_n of_o father_n and_o of_o counsel_n which_o be_v nothing_o without_o he_o and_o he_o far_o above_o they_o and_o yet_o because_o he_o have_v some_o apprehension_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 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p._n 164._o allege_v not_o only_o the_o same_o text_n which_o ancient_a heretic_n allege_v but_o also_o direct_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n when_o s._n augustine_n urge_v maximinus_n the_o arian_n with_o unwritten_a tradition_n he_o receive_v this_o answer_n from_o he_o max._n he_o aug._n l._n 1._o cont_n max._n these_o say_n which_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n may_v not_o be_v receive_v of_o we_o see_v our_o lord_n warn_v we_o do_v say_v without_o cause_n do_v they_o worship_v i_o tâ—â—ching_v for_o doctrine_n the_o commandment_n of_o mention_v be_v not_o this_o selfsame_o text_n the_o first_o which_o you_o in_o like_a manner_n produce_v against_o unwritten_a tradition_n 6._o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o urge_v maximinus_n with_o unwritten_a tradition_n they_o dispute_v of_o unwritten_a say_n not_o of_o unwritten_a but_o of_o a_o write_a doctrine_n &_o by_o unwritten_a say_n he_o urge_v he_o wherefore_o we_o say_v for_o ourselves_o it_o be_v a_o direct_o for_o direct_o in_o the_o same_o 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the_o heretic_n for_o appeal_n unto_o scripture_n but_o as_o we_o haâ—â—_n show_v out_o of_o irenaeus_n &_o tertullian_n for_o speak_v disgraceful_o of_o it_o that_o truth_n can_v not_o be_v know_v out_o of_o scripture_n by_o they_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o tradition_n because_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n theodoâ—et_n set_v forth_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o heretic_n in_o this_o manner_n haeres_fw-la manner_n s._n vides_fw-la ni_fw-fr petitisè_fw-la scripture_n demonstrationibus_fw-la stultitiam_fw-la svam_fw-la constringinum_fw-la scripturae_fw-la recusant_n &_o scopum_fw-la &_o usum_fw-la si_fw-mi quando_fw-la vero_fw-la putart_n nudum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la effatum_fw-la à _fw-la genuinâ_fw-la recisum_fw-la orationis_fw-la see_v ad_fw-la suum_fw-la propositum_fw-la accommodant_fw-la â—uis_fw-la confirmandis_fw-la theodor_n in_o opusc_n count_v vanas_fw-la haeres_fw-la whensoever_o they_o see_v that_o their_o folly_n be_v discover_v by_o demonstration_n 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exâ—mplis_fw-la sâ—rit_fw-la turarum_fw-la quibus_fw-la oportet_fw-la secundum_fw-la sanam_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la omnem_fw-la voâ—em_fw-la abmâ—â—es_fw-la ere_o hâ—raonis_fw-la origen_n tract_n 23._o in_o mat._n as_o our_o saviour_n by_o the_o word_n of_o his_o doctrine_n put_v the_o sadducee_n to_o silence_n so_o must_v we_o by_o the_o example_n of_o scripture_n if_o we_o will_v be_v the_o follower_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o which_o according_a unto_o sound_a doctrine_n we_o ought_v to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o every_o proud_a pharaâ—h_n say_v origen_n s._n augustine_n do_v not_o reject_v the_o appeal_n of_o the_o donatist_n unto_o scripture_n as_o if_o it_o be_v coraâ—_n non_fw-la judice_fw-la but_o commend_v it_o as_o the_o best_a way_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o answer_n unto_o 2d_o unto_o aug._n l._n 5._o contra_fw-la donat._n c._n 2d_o cyprian_n appeal_v in_o the_o same_o point_n unto_o the_o same_o judge_n and_o by_o his_o several_a answer_n to_o the_o donatist_n themselves_o 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