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The falshood of the cheife grounds of the Romish religion Descried and convinced in a briefe answere to certaine motiues sent by a priest to a gentleman to induce him to turne papist. By W.S.; Seminary priest put to a non-plus
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Sutton, William, 1561 or 2-1632.; Sutton, William, b. 1607 or 8.
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STC 23508; ESTC S100149
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hom._n 33._o in_o act._n apostolorum_fw-la it_o be_v affirm_v by_o old_a writer_n and_o some_o modern_a learned_a protestant_n that_o s._n peter_n be_v 25._o year_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o by_o the_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a writer_n that_o saint_n peter_n and_o s._n paul_n be_v both_o of_o they_o martyr_v together_o in_o rome_n under_o the_o emperor_n nero._n origen_n apud_fw-la eusebium_n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o euseb_n c._n 24._o l._n 2._o hist_o eccl._n tert._n depraescrip_n c._n 36._o aug._n tract_n 123_o in_o joh._n chysostom_n &_o beda_n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la s._n ambr._n ser._n 66.68_o s._n maximus_n rome_n how_o saint_n peter_n be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n when_o peter_n be_v call_v bishop_n of_o rome_n or_o james_n of_o jerusalem_n or_o any_o other_o apostle_n of_o any_o other_o particular_a city_n we_o must_v understand_v that_o in_o those_o speech_n the_o name_n of_o bishop_n be_v take_v in_o a_o large_a extent_n than_o the_o strict_a ecclesiastic_a use_n of_o the_o 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