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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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away that maketh to the substance of doctrine All this cannot to be known by Scripture but proued only by certaine humane weake coniectures if you take away the traditions of the Church and so the whole foundatiō of our fayth shall rely vpon vncertaine coniectures Moreouer the vertue and efficacy of the Scripture consisteth not in the sound of the words but in the sense meaning which is the life and soule of the Scripture But there may be a thousand controuersies about the sense which cannot in any sort be decided by the Scripture it selfe if you take a way Traditions and the exposition of the Fathers as experience teacheth For about the sense of these words Hoc est Corpus meum and of many more there is most eager disputation betwene the Lutherans and Caluinists c. If you say with Caluin that the iudgment touching the Scriptures and the vnderstanding of them belongeth to an inward spirit this is nothing but the dictamen of an internall spirit that is for the priuate iudgment of euery particular person to set down the first rule how to beleeue For euery one may say that he hath the spirit and by the inspiration therof can iudge and determine that this part or booke is holy Scripture and not that that this is the sense not that So a● Lutheran out of his spirit giueth iudgment In prologonou● Testamer ti that S. Iames Epistle is a strawy Epistle and the Apocalyps of S. Iohn of doubtfull authority But the Caluinist out of his soiri● iudgeth the one and the other to be the word of God So Luther out of his spirit iudgeth that this false opinion is to be abolished that there be foure Gospells for that S. Iohns Gospell is but one faire true and principall and to be far preferred before the other three In like manner S. Paules and S. Peters epistles do sar go beyond sayth be the three Gospells of Mathew Marke and Luke He would willingly haue reiected them because they plainely proue establish the merit and necessity of good works and the obseruation of the commaundements and do recommend chastity and pouerty But when he durst not cleane reiect them he would extennate their authority and insinuate that they were not written with the spirit of God In like maner Caluin out of his own sense iudgeth that these words Hoc est Corpus meum haue this meaning This breed is the figure of my body and Luther will haue it This bread is truly my body I omit other thing without nūber by which it appeareth that euery ones priuate iudgment is proposed for arule of beleefe or which is the same that the Scripture it selfe is expounded and interpreted according to euery ones priuate iudgment Secondly that is not any fit rule of beliefe that is a like accommodated to contrary doctrines but the scripture is accommodated to contrary Religions and doctrines for as much as all the Sects of this time though they do in an hostile manner dissent and contend in very many and those the most inportant heads and grounds do neuertheles make this rule to serue their turne and doe vse it for the mantayning of their opinions and heresyes For the Lutherans say they rely vpon Scripture the Caluinists affirme the same the Anabaptists also are nothing behind them in auerring that the Scriptures be for them And no meruaile because euery one of them taketh and interpreteh the Scripture not conforme to the comon vnderstanding of the Church or the common exposition of the Fathers as do the Catholikes but according to the sense of euery priuate spirit in which sort it may bee easilie accommodated to all heresies Whence it is euident that this rule so taken serueth not the turne whiles all is reduced to the iudgment of euery ones priuate spirit Thirdly if there were some iudge who in euery Controuerly wherein he were to giue sentence should so doe it as it could not be certainly vnderstood for whether party he pronounced the sentence but both partyes should contend that the matter were adiudged and determined on their side and that the sentence of the Iudge was expresly plainly pronounced for them such an one in the opinion of all men could not be thought a competent Iudge sith no matter in cōtrouersie could bee determined or ended by sentence giuen by him For after sentence there would bee as greata contention about the sentence it selfe whether of them it might seeme to fauour as there had been before about the right that ech party had And such a Iudge is Holy Scripture if you take away the Churches interpretation and declaration and the exposition of the holy Fathers for as much as the sentence therof is euer such as it cannot bee euident to both parties whether of them it fauoureth whiles the one and the other doth stifly maintaine that it is most plaine that it holdeth and standeth for them And hence it is that controuersies bee neuer ended and therefore it is not onely a vaine but also a ridiculous thing to appoint the Scripture alone for Iudge For in euery controuersy there ought such a Iudge to be designed who may so giue sentence as it may be manifest to all and most of all to those parties on whose behalf the cause is adiuged otherwise such a controuersy can neuer be ended Wherfore those who make the Scripture alone the Iudge of matters in question do therin plainely manifest that they admit not any iudge at all by whome the cause may be determined besids their priuate iudgment alone For they do as if Titus and Caius hauing a suite at Law would not haue any other Iudge in the matter but Iustinian his Code together with the Pandects without hauing any thing to do with the interpretation of Doctors and Titus producing for his owne right some law should by it maintayne that the cause was manifestly adiudged for him And Caius againe should deny it who by citing an other law for himselfe should say that it was cleare that that law fauoured made for him which Titus would in lake manner deny and so they should both depart without any decision of the cause or controuersy in hand would it not be a matter worthy of laughter and all would say that neyther of them desired the determination or decision of the cause And that neyther admitted other Iudge then his owne iudgment In the very like manner in this that they wil not haue any other Iudge then Scripture and euery one reserueth the interpretatiō thereof to his owne spirit they plainely shew that they haue no will that the cause should be decided or defined by any lawfull way nor to admit any Iudg but their owne iudgment Fourthly how very insufficient this rule of beliefe is experience it selfe plainely teacheth For we see that there is not any end of controuersies among them euen about the greatest matter of fayth sith at this very tyme the Lutherans Caluinists
but in some few indifferent matters and nothing necessary vnto saluation in so much that it is all one in what religion thou liuest seing that thou maist indifferently in all of them obtayne thy saluation the which is nothingels but to open the way to Alcoran and to make Mahomet equall with Christ or rather manifestly to bring in Atheisme For to approue euery Religion is to take away all Religion and to thinke none necessary seing that the true Religion can be but one The fundamentall reason wherupon this opinion especially relieth is of no moment For first if it be not incredable that God for the space of some thousands of yeares hath left the whole word in Idolatry excepting only the Iewish nation being but a little portion or corner of the whole world and to haue permitted it to be vtterly ouerthrowne albeit there were so many rare wits among them so many diligent worshippers of God and all humane iustice and honesty it should not also seeme incredible if we say that now also he suffereth the Turkes and Iewes to perish Secondly the Turkes and Iewes are lesse to be excused now in that they do not belieue in Christ then the Heathens were in times past in not acknowledging one God to be the Creator of heauen and earth The reason is because when almost the whole world was in Idolatry the feruent heat of the common custome carried all by force away with it neyther was there any reason offered vnto priuate mē why they should greatly doubt of their religion neyther if there had byn doubt obiected vnto them could they find out any easy way to know the truth But now after that the fayth and Religion of Christ is diu●lged throughout the whole world and that Christians are euery where extant it cannot be but that many occasions are offered vnto the Turkes and Iewes of doubting of their Religion They are bound therfore to discusse and conferre the matter with the Christiās dwelling night vnto them the which if they do not but auert their minds frō these kind of thoughts by reason of the hatred they beare vnto Christian Religion or vpon some other cause they make themselues vnexcusable before God for the busines of our Religion saluatiō is of so great weyght and importance that it ought to be preferred before all other things when there is any iust reason of doubting offered it must with all diligence be examined albeit we should for that purpose be forced to go into farre countries for our resolution Lastly if there be any who haue hard nothing of Christian Religion or which do thinke that there is nothing wherby they may be iustly moued to any further inquisition those men shall not be damned for the sin of Infidelity that is to say because they haue not belieued in Christ but for some other things which they haue done agaynst the law of nature the which by help of God they might haue eschewed for God hath not left them so destitute of his prouidence and help but that they may auoid those synnes which they do commit if they would as they may ought to cooperate with Gods holy inspirations and take comfort and pleasure therin None therfore can impute his damnation vnto God albeit the way be straite to saluation but vnto himselfe to his owne negligence I say and wickednesse wherby he hath neglected Gods holy inspirations and cōtemned his profitable admonitions and willingly and wittingly against his owne conscience hath throwne himselfe headlong into sinne it being his vtter ouerthrow THE II. QVESTION THE other Question is whether it be sufficient to saluation to belieue in Christ and that he dyed for our sinnes albeit we will not belieue many other things Many especially of the cōmon sort of people The opinion of the vulgar people do esteeme it sufficient so that those thinges be belieued which are set downe in the Apostles Creed of God and Christ other things they account indifferent and euery one may belieue what with a good faith he pleaseth but they will haue the Apostles Creed belieued of euery one in that sense which seemeth best vnto any of them They conclude therfore that any which confesseth Christ may be saued in his owne faith whether he be a Papist or a Lutheran or a Caluinist or an Anabaptist or of any other sect for all these haue the same head which is Christ Coloss 2. 1. Cor. 3. all do rely vpon the same Foundation which is Christ Iesus they cannot therfore be deceyued of their saluation albeit they disagree in all other thinges Herupon some noble men who do vse these new religions to the establishment and increase of their power and dominions doe labour very much to make one Church of the Lutherans and Caluinists and they goe about to perswade vs that there is no difference amongst them but in some small points indifferent matters But this opinion doth include in it many inconueniences The 1. Reason First because it saueth almost all the auncient Heretikes The same refuted by ten Reasons for most of them do confesse Christ and belieue the Creed in their ownesense The Arians therfore might be saued in their herefy who denyed God the Sonne to be consubstantiall with his Father The Macedonians who made the holy Ghost lesser then God the Sonne The Nestorians who affirmed there were two persons in Christ The Eutichians who held that the flesh of Christ was conuerted into his diuinity The Apollinaristes who said that the diuine Word was vnited in Christ as a reasonable soule vnited to the body The Monothelites who affirmed that there was one only will and operation in Christ The Pelagians who denied originall sinne and taught that a man by his naturall forces might deserue the grace of God and his saluation The Donatists who affirmed that the Church of God was euery where perished but only in Donatus his company The Nouatians who denyed pennance to those that had denyed their fayth The Montanists who thought Montanus to be the holy Ghost All these according to this opinion euery one in his owne fayth and heresy may be saued because they haue belieued in Christ did hold the Apostles Creed no lesse to be belieued then now adayes the Lutherans and Caluinists do But what can be sayd more absurd or more like a paradox in the Church of God For if eternall saluation may be obtayned by this kind of fayth why haue there byn holden s●●any Councells against those heresies the Bishops throughout the whole world being assembled togeather with so great labour and charges why haue those heresies byn so often condemned by excommunication why haue the holy Fathers so much laboured in the extirpation threof why haue Catholikes so much detested the conuersation and company of those heretikes why would some of them rather chose to suffer banishment death and all kind of torm●●ts then to subscribe vnto any of these heresies All these
things truly had byn done in vayne foolishly and wrongfully if in these sects eternall saluation might haue byn obteined the which seing no wise man can say we must of necessity confesse that those heresies are the plagues of soules that saluation can by no meanes consist with them The 2. Reason Secondly because it condemneth all antiquity of error who hath alwayes iudged that an heretike cannot be saued and therfore it hath opposed 〈◊〉 selfe so vehemently against them and hath alwayes very diligently confuted them The 3. Reason Thirdly because it condemneth the Apostle himselfe who in his third to Titus commandeth vs in this sort Tit. 3. Eschew an heretike after one or two admonitions knowing certaynly that he which is such a one is ouerthrown and sinneth being condemned by his owne proper iudgment Why doth he command him to be esehewed if his error be not a hindrance to saluation why doth he say that he is ouerthrowne condemned 2 Tim. 2. In like manner in his 2. Tim 2. Their speach sayth he creepeth as a canker Euen as therefore the canker is a disease which killeth a mans body vnlesse it be cut away so is an Heretike vnto a company of Christians and Catholikes But some peraduenture will obiect and say that none is to be accounted an heretike but he which reiecteth Christ or denyeth some thing belonging vnto the Creed But this is absurdly vnwisely spoken for so he should not be an heretike who should take away both the old and new Testament and should say that those things are eyther feygn●d or written by the spirit only of a man and as the writings of prophane authors subiect to many errors he were not an heretike who should deny hell or the eternity of the paynes therof or should affirme that all the diuells should once besaued seing that there is no mention made of these things in the Apostles Creed he should not be an heretike who should forbid marriage and who should fay that marriages were ordeyned by the Diuell who also should affirme that som kind of flesh is of it owne nature vncleane all whome notwithstanding the Apostle iudgeth to be heretikes 1. Tim. 4. He were not an heretike who should say that there are two persons in Christ whom notwithstanding S. Iohn calleth an heretike and Antichrist Epist. 1. c. 4. He were not an heretike who should deny Baptisme and all other Sacraments And finally none of those of whome we haue spoken before were to be accounted Heretikes the which is contrary to all antiquity and all the Doctors who haue liued in these ten or twelue ages The 4. Reason Fourthly this opinion doth make all the foresayd heresyes and sects equall with the Catholike faith and Religion affirming that we may aswell be saued in them as in it The Catholike Religion therfore shall be no better then Arianisme Pelagianisme Nestorianisme Eurichianisme and other false Religions the whith both in it selfe is most absurd and nothing els but to induce a new Atheisme For to affirme all Religions to be good and that it little importeth the worke of our Saluation what Religion we professe is to make no account of any Religion for if there be any Religion it cannot be but one as there is but one Truth one Iustice one Faith one happines one Lord and God and one Man Iesus Christ mediator of God and man The 5. Reason Fifthly it is a skornefull thing to say that it is sufficient for euery one to belieue the Creed according to their owne sense and vnderstanding therof seing there is but one only truth the which if we do not attayne we belieue that which is false but a false faith auayleth nothing to saluation It is therfore all one whether thou belieuest the Creed after such a manner or after no manner at all one therfore may be saued albeit he doth not absolutely belieue many articles The same also may be said of the holy Scriptures For if it be sufficient to belieue the holy Scriptures vnderstood in their owne sense seing that this sense may often tymes be erroneous it will also suffice albeit thou doest not belieue them at all for a false faith can be no more needfull to saluation then no faith at all that is to say whereby one doth absolutely belieue nothing at all Yf thou doest say that the Creed must be belieued in a true sense then thou condemnest all the Sects of this tyme whereof there is none which belieueth all the articles of the Creed in the same sense with Catholikes or which doth not differ one from another in the explication of the Creed Wherfore seing that there is but ōly one Truth it necessarily followeth that all Religions sauing one doe erre from the truth therefore are not sufficient to saluation But it is euident The disagrement of fectaries in the sense of the Creed that they differ much in the vnderstanding of the Creed for that Article And in Iesus Christ his only Sonne the Arians Tritheitans and many Caluinistes affirming the Sonne lesser then the Father doe other wise explicate then the Lutherans and Catholikes do who hold God the Sonne to be equall and consubstantiall with his Father The article of Christs descending into hell the Caluinists do otherwise vnderstand who do thinke that Christ suffered there the torments of the damned soules and that he doubted of his saluation and that he was affrayd least he should be wholy consumed by euerlasting death otherwise Catholikes and Lutherans hold who say that such ā exposition is not the sense of that Article but a blasphemy of Caluin The article of Christs ascending into heauen is otherwise vnderstood by the Lutherans and Vbiquitarists who hold Christes body to be present euery where and in all places as his diuinity is presēt euery where otherwise the Caluinists and Catholiks hold who do not doubt to affirme but that by this exposition the whole Creed is ouerthrowne and that Christes Incarnation Natiuity Passion death ascending to heauen and his comming to Iudgmente is therby quite taken away The article of iudging the quicke and the dead the Catholikes do otherwise expound who hold that God shall so iudge vs that he will reward our good workes with heauen and punish our euill deeds with hell otherwise the Caluinists and Lutherans who deny all reward to good workes and that God only in his diuine iudgement will principally esteeme reward a speciall fayth only The aricle of the Holy Ghost the Catholikes and Lutherans do otherwise vnderstand then the Arians and many Caluinists The article of the Church the Lutherans and Caluinists do vnderstand of the inuisible congregation of those which are predestinate the Catholikes do vnderstand it of the visible company of Catholiks wherein many are predestinate many are reprobate The article of Communion of Saynts the Lutherans and Caluinists do so extenuate that they take away almost all the communion holden by Catholiks The article of
the last dayes there shall some depart from their saith attending to the spirits of error and doctrines of the diuell For euery heresy is the doctrine of the Diuell And S. Iohn saith 1. Ioan. 4. Do not belieue euery spirit but try their spirits whether they be of God or not For many false Prophets are gone out into the world This therefore is the spirit which beareth rule in the harts of heretiks whose testimony operation they feele inwardly engrafted in their harts and yet they thinke it to be the worke of the holy Ghost who so blindeth their mind and fansies that they iudge light to be darknesse and darknesse light that they think the most cleare truth of the Catholike faith to be an error and most filthy errors to be the cleare truth And truly if they were not wholy blinded bewitched they might easily perceiue that spirit whome they feele inwardly not to be the spirit of God or at the least they might begin to doubt therof seing that all sects among whome there is so great dissention variety of opinions do all equally feele boast of and follow that testimony of this spirit and rely vpon it in the confirmation of their most contrary opinions but this hapneth by the iust iudgment of God for as the Iewes who would not receiue Christ were permitted to be blinded by the diuell as it is manifest by the Apost 2. ad Thes 2. so heretiks because they haue forsaken the Catholik fayth the which is no lesse a fault then that of the Iewes are deliuered vnto him that he may as it were bewitch their minds and driue them into all kind of error But if any will attentiuely consider he shall easily preceyue a more potent operation of the diuell and bewitching of mindes in our Heretiks The diuell doth sooner bewitch Heretiks then Iewes then eyther in Iewes or Mahometans and that for two reasons First because the Iews agree in the same faith neither is there any variety of sects among them among the Mahomets there are only two sects and there is no great difference betwixt thē But among heretiks of these tymes there are many sects some arising by the increase of new opinions who condemne one another of heresy and all these are risen within the space of 90. yeares the which is a manifest signe that the diuell meruailously possesseth inwardly the hartes of these men troubling their fansies peruerting their imaginations and iudgments that they cannot remayne or be quiet any where Secondly because the common sort of people among the Iewes and Turkes do not rely vpon their owne iudgment or vpon the testimony and instinct of the priuate spirit but vpon the iudgment of their doctors or which is all one vpon their owne Scripture as it is interpreted vnto them by the doctors of their Religion they haue therfore the rule of their faith and ground of their beliefe conformable as it were to reason that is to say the common consent of their predecessors or the Scripture explicated vnto them by the consent of the doctors of their Religion But most of the heretikes of these tymes do not respect their Superiors and Apostles from whom they first receiued this new Ghospell but they forsake them as men subiect to error and they rely wholy vpon their owne iudgment or vpon the testimony of the priuat spirit or which is al one vpon the Scripture only vnderstood after the sense of their owne iudgment priuate spirit the which is an euident sign that Sathan doth so effectually worke in them bewitch their myndes that not only euery one feygneth vnto himselfe new heresies and opinions but also that he placeth the foundation of his beliefe rule of faith in himself in his owne inward sense and iudgement for euery one thinketh himself to be taught by our Lord and indued with the Magistery of the spirit albeit they be women yong girles therfore to be free from error but al the holy Fathers to haue byn men subiect to error The same they iudge of their Apostles and Ministers But what greater bewitching or deceiuing of people can there be then this Hence it commeth to passe that they haue no certaine and established opinions amongst them neither can they set downe or frame any body of doctrine and religion but they must wander vp and downe in vncertaintyes as the priuate spirit leadeth them neyther can there any disputation be made with them cōcerning their opinions seing that they do not defend any one opinion they being by reason of the ignorance of their predecessors altogeather vnlearned But of this spirit of folly madnesse we haue written more at large in our Consultation in the 9. Consideration the 11. Reason By these it is manifestly concluded that all the ground and foundation of faith wherupon the sects of our tymes relye is false and vncertaine and therfore their faith which relyeth theron is vnprofitable and auayleth nothing to saluation The 8. Reason Eightly if euery one who doth acknowledge Christ may be saued in his owne faith Why is there so great disagreement among religions Why do they excommunicate condemne one another of heresy Why do the Lutherans refuse to acknowledg the Caluinists for their brethren and in their publike sermons and books do call them wicked blasphemous persons Why do the chiefe of the Caluinists among whome Theodore Beza the Father of them all as it were their Pope next after Caluin handle the Lutherans in like manner why do the Anabaptists call those only of their owne sect to be the faithfull Christians and account all others as Infidels Wherby it is euident that this new opinion of doctrine is not only cōtrary to Catholike religion but to all other sects also who haue in them any zeale of piety and religion and to be banished as Atheisme only The 9. Reason Ninthly that any man be saued it sufficeth not to keepe only one two or three commandements but it is necessary to keep all according to those words of Christ Matth. 19. Matth 19. If thou wilt enter into life keep the commandements As if any be an adulterer or thiefe albeit he keep the other commandments he may not be saued as the holy Scripture often teacheth In like manner therfore it is not sufficient to saluation to beleeue two three or foure articles but it is necessary to belieue all those things which God hath reuealed and set downe to vs in his Church to be belieued for faith is no lesse necessary to saluation then obediēce of the commādments of the law of God neither should faith be lesse perfect then the obedience and keeping of the law of God As therfore obedience must extend it selfe to all the commandments so must faith extend it selfe to all things which are reuealed the which may be confirmed by the words of S. Iames in the 2. Iac. 2. Chap. VVhosoeuer hath kept the whole