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irene_n &_o constantino_n filio_fw-la eius_fw-la septima_fw-la &_o universalis_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la appellata_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nec_fw-la septima_fw-la nec_fw-la aliquid_fw-la diceretur_fw-la quasi_fw-la superuacua_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la nimirum_fw-la patribus_fw-la concilij_fw-la francfordiensis_n abdicata_fw-la est_fw-la vrsperg_n pag._n 176._o in_o which_o word_n of_o what_o soever_o council_n urpergensis_fw-la intend_v to_o speak_v yet_o none_o of_o they_o mention_v the_o council_n of_o nyce_n as_o all_o those_o who_o understand_v latin_a may_v easy_o perceive_v and_o if_o sir_n hunfrey_n will_v reply_n and_o say_v that_o though_o that_o author_n do_v not_o mention_v the_o nycene_n council_n in_o word_n yet_o do_v he_o sufficient_o declare_v his_o meaning_n to_o be_v of_o no_o other_o council_n than_o the_o seeond_n nycene_n synod_n in_o regard_n he_o affirm_v it_o to_o have_v be_v under_o irenne_n and_o her_o son_n and_o the_o same_o which_o be_v condemn_v in_o 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text_n of_o the_o sixth_o of_o s._n john_n do_v according_a to_o the_o interpretation_n of_o s._n augustin_n but_o only_o make_v question_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n or_o possibility_n of_o christ_n give_n his_o body_n to_o be_v eat_v not_o otherwise_o they_o in_o that_o gross_a manner_n which_o they_o then_o conceive_v in_o their_o mind_n whereas_o yet_o the_o knight_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o congregation_n direct_o &_o absolute_o affirm_v that_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v as_o far_o from_o be_v real_o contain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o heaven_n be_v from_o the_o altar_n or_o communion_n table_n and_o thus_o it_o appear_v that_o by_o endeavour_v to_o make_v we_o capharnaite_n sir_n humphrey_n show_v great_a grossness_n of_o conceit_n they_o the_o gross_a capharnaite_n do_v by_o deny_v the_o real_a presence_n upon_o the_o same_o or_o like_a carnal_a imagination_n for_o for_o which_o he_o and_o his_o mate_n renounce_v it_o from_o this_o sir_n humphrey_n pass_v to_o 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ephesin_n &_o chalcedon_n counsel_n in_o which_o they_o be_v define_v and_o propose_v for_o matter_n of_o faith_n against_o the_o arian_n nestorian_a &_o euthycian_a heretic_n and_o according_a to_o this_o rule_n it_o pass_v in_o our_o case_n of_o transubstantiation_n for_o declaration_n of_o which_o this_o brief_a observation_n may_v suffice_v to_o satisfy_v any_o indifferent_a mind_n now_o as_o i_o say_v of_o scotus_n and_o yribarne_n the_o like_a i_o say_v of_o caietan_n cite_v by_o the_o knight_n out_o of_o suarez_fw-fr in_o his_o comment_n upon_o s._n thomas_n page_n 108._o who_o although_o in_o it_o upon_o the_o first_o art_n of_o the_o 15._o quest_n he_o say_v transubstantiation_n which_o there_o he_o call_v conversion_n be_v not_o in_o the_o euangell_n expresselie_o conuersio_fw-la non_fw-la habetur_fw-la explicitein_a euangelio_fw-la and_o before_o he_o say_v we_o expresselie_o receive_v from_o the_o church_n that_o which_o the_o gospel_n do_v not_o explicate_v yet_o afterwards_o the_o same_o author_n expresselie_o teach_v and_o inculcate_n that_o those_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n cause_n both_o the_o real_a presence_n and_o transubstantiation_n for_o thus_o &_o add_v et_fw-fr perhoc_fw-fr verbae_fw-la christi_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la quia_fw-la efficiunt_fw-la utramque_fw-la novitatem_fw-la scrilicet_fw-la conversionis_fw-la &_o continentiae_fw-la &c._n &c._n that_o be_v and_o by_o this_o because_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n do_v effect_n both_o novelty_n videlicet_fw-la of_o the_o conversion_n and_o the_o contain_v by_o which_o word_n it_o be_v manifest_v what_o this_o author_n meaning_n be_v absolute_o touch_v the_o real_a presence_n &_o transubstantiation_n howsoever_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o manner_n in_o which_o it_o be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n which_o be_v not_o our_o question_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n speak_v aliaco_n when_o he_o say_v in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o our_o adversary_n that_o manner_n of_o meaning_n which_o suppose_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v still_o a_o possible_a neither_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o reason_n nor_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n for_o he_o mean_v only_o it_o be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o any_o such_o express_a scripture_n as_o do_v convince_v the_o transsubstantiatton_n plain_o to_o every_o one_o without_o the_o authority_n and_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o he_o add_v if_o it_o can_v stand_v with_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n in_o which_o aliaco_n show_v such_o obedience_n to_o the_o church_n as_o sir_n humphrey_n and_o his_o fellow_n obstinate_o deny_v unto_o she_o most_o pious_o captivate_a his_o understanding_n even_o in_o that_o which_o he_o hold_v more_o easy_a and_o conformable_a to_o reason_n and_o scripture_n according_a to_o human_a intelligence_n and_o discourse_n more_o ever_o touch_v the_o citation_n of_o bishop_n fisher_n contra_fw-la cap._n babyl_n cap._n 10._o his_o intent_n in_o that_o place_n be_v only_o to_o prove_v that_o mere_o by_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o scripture_n without_o the_o traditionarie_a interpretation_n of_o the_o father_n no_o certainty_n can_v be_v have_v in_o question_n of_o controversy_n or_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o to_o prove_v this_o which_o be_v a_o direct_a conclusion_n against_o sir_n humphrey_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o novelist_n he_o argue_v exhiposthesi_fw-la or_o upon_o supposition_n say_v that_o not_o obstand_v it_o be_v true_a and_o certain_a that_o our_o saviour_n by_o virtue_n of_o those_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n do_v make_v his_o own_o body_n real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o if_o one_o be_v obstinate_a stand_v preciselie_o to_o the_o pure_a text_n without_o the_o interpretation_n of_o father_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n he_o may_v deny_v that_o it_o do_v thence_o follow_v that_o in_o our_o mass_n prest_n make_v real_o present_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n not_o meaning_n to_o affirm_v that_o they_o do_v not_o in_o deed_n for_o that_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o book_n do_v demonstrate_v he_o to_o believe_v the_o real_a presence_n in_o mass_n especial_o the_o four_o chapter_n but_o only_o intend_v to_o declare_v by_o example_n and_o reason_n that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v convince_v that_o catholic_a prest_n do_v so_o by_o pure_a scripture_n seclude_v the_o exposition_n of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o her_o infallible_a authority_n and_o now_o this_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o b._n fisher_n discourse_n sir_n humphrey_n very_o coning_o by_o leave_v out_o the_o precedent_n and_o subsequent_a word_n of_o the_o author_n so_o manage_v the_o matter_n as_o if_o he_o have_v flat_o deny_v that_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o any_o scripture_n to_o be_v make_v in_o the_o mass_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a
i_o doubt_v not_o but_o this_o will_v be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v the_o reader_n capable_a of_o the_o author_n true_a sense_n in_o which_o i_o be_v force_v to_o enlarge_v myself_o more_o than_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n require_v the_o more_o plain_o to_o discover_v unto_o he_o the_o fraud_n of_o the_o adverfarie_a both_o in_o detort_v the_o sense_n and_o mangle_v the_o tenor_n or_o continuation_n of_o the_o text_n of_o this_o most_o catholic_a and_o renown_a prelate_n moreover_o sir_n hunfrey_n allege_v s._n thomas_n in_o 3._o par_fw-fr q._n 75._o be_v 7._o as_o also_o the_o roman_a cathecisme_n at_o random_n as_o affirm_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n remain_v till_o the_o last_o word_n of_o the_o consecration_n be_v utter_v but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n in_o respect_n that_o how_o long_o sooner_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n remain_v if_o at_o length_n it_o cease_v as_o they_o both_o confess_v they_o both_o agree_v 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his_o life_n of_o which_o i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o judge_v yet_o none_o of_o these_o romanist_n i_o say_v ever_o affirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v no_o point_n of_o faith_n as_o i_o have_v above_o sufficient_o declare_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o every_o one_o of_o their_o testimony_n in_o particular_a and_o touch_v bellarmin_n and_o suarez_fw-fr the_o one_o be_v allege_v by_o our_o adversary_n as_o affirm_v scotus_n to_o have_v say_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o dogmafidei_fw-la a_o decree_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n the_o other_o as_o advise_v to_o have_v he_o and_o those_o other_o schoolman_n correct_v who_o teach_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o very_o ancient_a i_o profess_v i_o have_v diligent_o read_v scotus_n in_o this_o matter_n and_o i_o sinde_v he_o only_o say_v that_o what_o soever_o be_v aver_v to_o be_v believe_v in_o the_o council_n of_o the_o lateran_n 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of_o bind_v &_o lose_v give_v by_o christ_n himself_o to_o the_o pastor_n of_o his_o church_n in_o most_o general_a and_o ample_a manner_n 16._o mat._n 16._o and_o to_o this_o i_o add_v that_o which_o sir_n humphrey_n for_o his_o own_o advantage_n omit_v in_o the_o citation_n of_o both_o durand_n &_o antoninus_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o both_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o s._n gregory_n for_o the_o use_n &_o actual_a grant_n of_o indulgence_n 3._o gregorius_n tamen_fw-la loquor_fw-la quâ—_n etiam_fw-la indulgentias_fw-la româ—_n iustituit_fw-la instationibus_fw-la ut_fw-la dicitur_fw-la durand_n id_fw-la 4._o send_v d._n 20._o q._n 3._o which_o pope_n say_v they_o be_v report_v to_o have_v institute_v the_o roman_a station_n which_o word_n of_o durand_n &_o the_o like_a of_o s._n antoninus_n if_o the_o knight_n have_v rehearse_v as_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o plain_a deal_n the_o use_n of_o indulgence_n will_v have_v appear_v not_o to_o be_v 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that_o caietan_n be_v corrupt_v by_o sir_n humfreys_n translation_n of_o the_o word_n hunc_fw-la or_o hanc_fw-la they_o which_o the_o author_n refer_v to_o the_o begin_n or_o certainty_n of_o their_o begin_n not_o to_o the_o indulgence_n themselves_o or_o power_n to_o grant_v they_o and_o doubtless_o siluester_v prierias_fw-la have_v the_o same_o meaning_n where_o he_o say_v if_o so_o he_o say_v that_o pardon_n be_v not_o know_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o roman_a for_o the_o sense_n be_v that_o they_o be_v not_o express_o declare_v &_o deliver_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o text_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o plain_a word_n but_o by_o the_o church_n who_o office_n it_o be_v to_o propose_v such_o doctrine_n in_o particular_a to_o the_o faithful_a as_o she_o find_v not_o so_o plain_o deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o they_o themselves_o can_v without_o her_o direction_n come_v to_o due_a knowledge_n of_o it_o and_o sure_o this_o athour_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o power_n &_o use_v of_o perdon_n that_o he_o profess_o defend_v the_o same_o against_o his_o profess_a adversary_n luther_n and_o the_o same_o i_o say_v of_o eckius_fw-la &_o tecelius_n who_o as_o sir_n humphrey_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a be_v also_o luther_n antagonist_n even_o in_o this_o particular_a to_o omit_v that_o he_o cite_v those_o two_o author_n only_o upon_o relation_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n history_n in_o english_a to_o which_o as_o i_o have_v alreader_n note_v we_o give_v no_o credit_n nay_o &_o since_o i_o write_v this_o at_o first_o i_o find_v that_o prierias_fw-la eckius_fw-la &_o tecelius_n be_v false_o charge_v by_o the_o same_o false_a history_n of_o trent_n to_o have_v lay_v for_o their_o ground_n of_o indulgence_n the_o pope_n authority_n in_o their_o impugnation_n &_o
therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v overthrow_v in_o one_o tenet_fw-la all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n i_o ansere_fw-la first_o that_o although_o this_o be_v the_o form_n which_o sir_n hunfreys_n argument_n must_v be_v reduce_v unto_o if_o any_o it_o can_v have_v nevertheless_o if_o we_o shall_v examen_fw-la it_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o logic_n there_o will_v scarce_o be_v find_v either_o form_n or_o figure_n in_o it_o yet_o lest_o the_o knight_n shall_v hold_v himself_o too_o rigorous_o deal_v with_o as_o not_o make_v profession_n of_o that_o art_n i_o be_o content_a to_o let_v that_o pass_v and_o answer_v second_o that_o i_o grant_v the_o mayor_n in_o this_o sense_n viz._n that_o whensoever_o the_o priest_n do_v administer_v a_o sacrament_n it_o be_v require_v that_o he_o intend_v at_o the_o least_o in_o general_a to_o do_v that_o which_o the_o true_a church_n use_v to_o do_v in_o that_o action_n i_o mean_v either_o formal_o or_o virtual_o &_o this_o be_v define_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n as_o a_o certain_a truth_n but_o in_o the_o minor_a there_o lie_v secret_o a_o certain_a false_a supposition_n which_o be_v this_o that_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v necessary_o require_v that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n in_o particular_a case_n be_v know_v by_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o true_a nor_o define_v by_o the_o council_n because_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v sufficient_a that_o faith_n by_o which_o a_o christian_a believe_v that_o every_o one_o of_o those_o visible_a sign_n which_o the_o church_n propose_v to_o the_o people_n to_o be_v believe_v &_o receive_v as_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a law_n be_v institute_v by_o christ_n to_o confer_v grace_n to_o the_o receiver_n &_o that_o to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o be_v require_v a_o sincere_a intention_n to_o administer_v or_o perform_v that_o particular_a action_n as_o be_v be_v institute_v or_o as_o the_o tridentine_a decreeth_n intention_n saltem_fw-la faciendi_fw-la quod_fw-la facit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o be_v at_o the_o least_o with_o intention_n to_o hoe_v that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v &_o that_o serious_o &_o not_o in_o mockrie_n but_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o either_o he_o that_o perform_v that_o ceremony_n or_o he_o that_o receive_v the_o same_o have_v certain_a knowledge_n of_o faith_n that_o this_o or_o that_o individual_a sacrament_n have_v be_v institute_v with_o the_o foresaid_a intention_n but_o to_o this_o a_o moral_a certainty_n do_v suffice_v both_o in_o the_o minister_n &_o in_o the_o receiver_n &_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o to_o know_v whether_o one_o have_v receive_v or_o do_v true_o receive_v a_o sacrament_n or_o not_o fall_v not_o upon_o the_o essence_n or_o make_v or_o mar_n of_o a_o sacrament_n as_o a_o thing_n necessary_o precedent_a unto_o the_o constitution_n of_o it_o but_o it_o be_v only_o a_o thing_n consequent_a or_o follow_v the_o same_o as_o serve_v only_o to_o rectify_v &_o quiet_a the_o conscience_n of_o those_o that_o either_o administer_v it_o or_o receive_v it_o to_o the_o which_o as_o be_v but_o a_o moral_a matter_n moral_a certainty_n only_o be_v require_v and_o sure_o if_o all_o true_a faith_n shall_v therefore_o be_v overthrow_v as_o sir_n humphrey_n infer_v because_o of_o want_n of_o certainty_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o receiver_n that_o they_o receive_v true_a sacrament_n every_o time_n they_o receive_v they_o than_o shall_v it_o follow_v by_o a_o argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o reformer_n be_v also_o overthrow_v for_o that_o they_o themselves_o neither_o have_v nor_o can_v have_v any_o such_o certainty_n of_o faith_n or_o if_o they_o say_v there_o be_v no_o faith_n of_o any_o such_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n in_o their_o religion_n so_o do_v we_o say_v the_o same_o of_o we_o for_o although_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v necessary_a in_o general_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o a_o sacrament_n yet_o that_o intention_n be_v not_o necessary_o know_v by_o faith_n in_o every_o particular_a case_n &_o in_o this_o consist_v the_o equivocation_n of_o the_o whole_a argument_n &_o if_o the_o knight_n have_v distinguish_v between_o the_o intention_n &_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o intention_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v perceive_v that_o his_o discourse_n be_v found_v upon_o a_o false_a foundation_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o the_o conclusion_n which_o although_o the_o premise_n be_v never_o so_o true_a yet_o have_v they_o not_o be_v able_a to_o infer_v such_o à _fw-fr vast_a consequence_n as_o be_v the_o overthrow_n of_o all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n precise_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o suppose_a want_n of_o faith_n of_o intention_n about_o the_o sacrament_n and_o now_o by_o this_o general_a ansere_fw-la may_v be_v solue_v what_o soever_o sir_n humphrey_n say_v afterwards_o of_o the_o intention_n require_v to_o the_o sacrament_n in_o particular_a to_o which_o i_o alson_n add_v that_o if_o certainty_n of_o faith_n be_v require_v in_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o as_o often_o as_o they_o receive_v they_o the_o receive_v true_a sacrament_n hic_fw-mi &_o nunc_fw-la &_o that_o as_o often_o as_o they_o want_v that_o faith_n they_o overthrow_v all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n than_o the_o reformer_n themselves_o be_v in_o a_o more_o pitiful_a case_n then_o the_o romanist_n in_o regard_n that_o it_o be_v unpossible_a for_o they_o to_o know_v more_o than_o either_o by_o their_o own_o seight_n or_o by_o relation_n of_o other_o that_o the_o true_a matter_n &_o form_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v true_o apply_v unto_o they_o &_o yet_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o upon_o neither_o of_o these_o two_o knowledge_n any_o supernatural_a faith_n can_v be_v found_v but_o only_o either_o a_o kind_n of_o natural_a cognition_n or_o knowledge_n at_o the_o most_o take_v from_o the_o sense_n or_o a_o certain_a moral_a certitude_n proceed_v from_o the_o relation_n of_o their_o parent_n or_o other_o all_o which_o be_v far_o inferior_a to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o faith_n as_o no_o man_n can_v deny_v that_o which_o may_v by_o a_o special_a reason_n be_v yet_o more_o plain_o urge_v against_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o regard_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o certainty_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o sacrament_n in_o particular_a that_o they_o can_v possible_o have_v as_o much_o as_o a_o moral_a certainty_n of_o the_o same_o nay_o nor_o moral_a probability_n i_o mean_v such_o a_o one_o as_o may_v justly_o move_v a_o prudent_a man_n to_o give_v credit_n by_o reason_n they_o have_v no_o certainty_n nor_o yet_o probability_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o vocation_n &_o ordination_n of_o their_o minister_n without_o certainty_n of_o which_o two_o condition_n it_o be_v well_o know_v on_o both_o side_n that_o no_o certain_a knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o individual_a sacrament_n can_v possible_o he_o have_v and_o so_o we_o see_v that_o whereas_o sir_n humphrey_n think_v he_o have_v frame_v a_o sting_v argument_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o bellarmin_n he_o only_o heap_v coal_n upon_o his_o own_o head_n and_o from_o hence_o also_o we_o may_v gather_v a_o easy_a solution_n to_o that_o which_o he_o add_v against_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o priest_n intention_n in_o some_o of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o he_o specifi_v as_o baptism_n order_n &_o matrimony_n touch_v which_o matter_n i_o desire_v the_o judicious_a reader_n consider_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o much_o more_o conformable_a to_o reason_n to_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o the_o honour_n of_o christ_n who_o institute_v they_o &_o to_o the_o comfort_n &_o security_n of_o the_o receiver_n that_o a_o sincere_a intention_n of_o the_o priest_n god_n substitute_n be_v require_v to_o the_o truth_n &_o due_a administration_n of_o they_o as_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v teach_v &_o ordain_v or_o only_o so_o that_o if_o the_o receiver_n take_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n as_o the_o reformer_n speak_v it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o minister_n to_o perform_v that_o external_a action_n which_o christ_n do_v institude_v though_o he_o do_v it_o in_o jest_n or_o morkery_n as_o luther_n teach_v or_o animo_fw-la illusorio_n that_o be_v with_o a_o intention_n or_o meaning_n to_o delude_v as_o kemnitius_fw-la affirm_v or_o to_o have_v no_o intention_n necessary_o require_v as_o sir_n humphrey_n here_o profess_v this_o i_o say_v i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o indifferent_a man_n to_o discern_v whether_o the_o romanist_n or_o the_o reformer_n proceed_v more_o safe_o &_o religious_o and_o as_o for_o the_o illation_n which_o the_o knight_n deduce_v out_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o
intention_n of_o the_o minister_n in_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n they_o be_v so_o ignorant_a &_o sotish_a as_o i_o be_o ashamed_a to_o rehearse_v they_o for_o example_n when_o he_o say_v that_o if_o the_o priest_n fail_v in_o his_o intention_n at_o the_o time_n of_o solemnisation_n of_o matrimony_n the_o marry_a people_n live_v all_o their_o day_n in_o adultery_n or_o fornication_n which_o be_v a_o most_o gross_a error_n in_o the_o knight_n for_o that_o the_o romanist_n &_o the_o reformer_n agree_v in_o this_o that_o although_o matrimony_n be_v no_o sacrament_n &_o consequent_o that_o the_o marry_a people_n shall_v not_o receive_v it_o as_o a_o sacrament_n yet_o be_v it_o sufficient_a to_o free_v they_o from_o adultery_n in_o regard_n they_o receive_v it_o at_o the_o least_o as_o a_o civil_a contract_n whatsoever_o the_o priest_n intention_n be_v and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_o all_o sectary_n of_o this_o time_n &_o particularilie_o sir_n humphrey_n himself_o for_o one_o shall_v live_v perpetuallie_o in_o that_o damnable_a state_n of_o adultery_n which_o he_o mention_v and_o yet_o this_o sequel_n i_o be_o sure_a it_o import_v he_o to_o deny_v as_o earnest_o as_o he_o can_v if_o it_o be_v but_o only_o for_o the_o conservation_n of_o his_o own_o &_o his_o wife_n honour_n and_o the_o like_a foolish_a &_o false_a inference_n he_o make_v about_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o also_o about_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o pope_n &_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n as_o if_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o romanist_n themselves_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n in_o any_o of_o they_o whereas_o yet_o he_o himself_o cit_v bellarmin_n in_o this_o very_a place_n as_o teach_v that_o in_o all_o these_o thing_n there_o be_v at_o least_o moral_a &_o sufficient_a certainty_n of_o their_o real_a existence_n &_o truth_n 28._o certitudine_fw-la autem_fw-la moralem_fw-la &_o humanam_fw-la quae_fw-la sufficit_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la homo_fw-la quiescat_fw-la ex_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la habemus_fw-la etiansi_fw-la pendiant_a ab_fw-la intention_n alterius_fw-la bel._n de_fw-fr sacr_n in_o genere_fw-la li._n 1_o c._n 28._o so_o that_o all_o these_o deduction_n be_v void_a of_o all_o sense_n reason_n &_o truth_n meerlie_o frame_v by_o the_o knight_n out_o of_o the_o superfluity_n of_o his_o brain_n &_o obtrude_v upon_o his_o reader_n as_o confession_n of_o his_o adversary_n in_o a_o peremptory_a &_o odious_a manner_n in_o disgrace_n of_o that_o church_n who_o doctrine_n he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o impugn_v in_o any_o more_o substantial_a manner_n in_o a_o semblable_a fashion_n do_v he_o also_o prosecute_v the_o like_a captious_a kind_n of_o argument_n against_o diverse_a other_o point_n of_o the_o roman_a doctrine_n as_o for_o example_n because_o he_o find_v in_o biel_n &_o peter_n lombard_n that_o they_o speak_v not_o with_o any_o certainty_n of_o the_o manner_n how_o saint_n do_v understand_v the_o prayer_n of_o their_o supplicant_n he_o 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honour_v in_o peter_n but_o he_o that_o die_v for_o we_o and_o in_o his_o 84._o treatise_n upon_o the_o gospel_n of_o s._n john_n he_o say_v at_o the_o table_n we_o do_v not_o so_o remember_v martyr_n
sin_n &_o all_o punishment_n due_a unto_o it_o as_o martyr_n do_v thirdlie_o i_o answer_v that_o s._n augustin_n speak_v there_o only_o of_o those_o two_o place_n to_o which_o all_o soul_n be_v final_o destinate_a and_o to_o one_o of_o which_o general_o speak_v &_o for_o the_o most_o part_n every_o one_o present_o pass_v yet_o as_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n so_o general_a which_o do_v not_o admit_v exception_n so_o do_v this_o general_a sentence_n of_o saint_n augustin_n include_v those_o only_o who_o die_v in_o either_o of_o those_o state_n which_o he_o mention_v in_o that_o place_n that_o be_v either_o absolute_o in_o such_o good_a work_n as_o present_o deserve_v paradise_n or_o else_o in_o such_o ill_a work_n as_o present_o deserve_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n &_o yet_o it_o admit_v a_o exception_n in_o other_o who_o pass_v out_o of_o this_o world_n in_o neither_o of_o those_o two_o state_n but_o be_v of_o those_o who_o the_o same_o s._n augustin_n in_o a_o other_o place_n call_v nec_fw-la valde_fw-la bonos_fw-es nec_fw-la valde_fw-la malos_fw-la or_o mediocriter_fw-la malos_fw-la &_o mediocriter_fw-la bonos_fw-es 1._o enchyr._n c._n 110._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mot_fw-fr cap._n 1._o neither_o very_o good_a nor_o very_o evil_a and_o of_o who_o he_o also_o mean_v when_o in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o care_n for_o the_o dead_a he_o say_v non_fw-la dubium_fw-la est_fw-la orationem_fw-la prodesse_fw-la defunstis_fw-la it_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o prayer_n be_v profitable_a to_o the_o dead_a which_o speech_n he_o will_v new_a have_v utter_v if_o he_o have_v ever_o deny_v the_o faith_n of_o purgatory_n &_o that_o this_o be_v s._n augustine_n true_a sense_n it_o be_v plain_a in_o regard_n it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o his_o purpose_n in_o that_o place_n who_o intent_n be_v only_o in_o general_a to_o persuade_v to_o virtue_n &_o good_a life_n that_o when_o man_n come_v to_o die_v they_o may_v be_v find_v in_o state_n rather_o to_o go_v present_o to_o 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