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A34012 Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib. Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P. 1675 (1675) Wing C5389; ESTC R5065 231,046 593

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consecration_n ought_v to_o be_v understand_v according_a to_o their_o immediate_a sense_n p._n 17._o the_o b._n sacrament_n be_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o christ_n blood_n &_o not_o only_o of_o his_o blood_n p._n 22._o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n signify_v a_o substantial_a be_v and_o not_o a_o sacramental_a only_o p._n 23._o the_o protestant_a communion_n exhibit_v not_o christ_n body_n &_o blood_n to_o the_o believer_n p._n 27._o the_o sacramental_a species_n receive●…_n worthy_o make_v the_o receiver_n a_o mystical_a member_n of_o christ._n p._n 30._o i'faith_o alone_a insufficient_a for_o this_o sacrament_n ib._n faith_n be_v no_o mouth_n literal_o or_o metapho●…ically_o p._n 31._o christ_n glorify_a body_n never_o damnify_v by_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o b._n sacramen●…_n p._n 32._o to_o verify_v a_o proposition_n it_o suffice_v the_o thing_n be_v as_o the_o proposition_n say_v it_o be_v p._n 35._o i●…_n be_v the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o whole_a cause_n of_o our_o spiritual_a refreshment_n and_o the_o thing_n which_o the_o soul_n principal_o hunger_n and_o thirst_v after_o faith_n be_v only_o a_o con●…ition_n requisite_a so_o be_v hope_n and_o charity_n also_o for_o to_o receive_v worthy_o p._n 38._o christ_n body_n worthy_o receive_v work_v spiritual_o upon_o the_o soul_n p._n 40._o these_o word_n of_o st._n aug._n to_o eat_v the_o ●…lesh_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o figure_n etc._n etc._n which_o de_fw-fr rodon_n allege_v against_o we_o expound_v p._n 43._o cardinal_z cajetan_n authority_n allege_v against_o we_o expound_v p._n 45._o the_o action_n whereby_o we_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n an●…_n sanctification_n end_v in_o glo●…ification_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o spiritual_a eat_n or_o drink_v by_o faith_n only_o p._n 5●…_n in_o these_o word_n my_o flesh_n be_v mea●…_n indeed_o no_o figure_n fall_v upon_o the_o word_n meat_n p._n 55._o christ_n flesh_n be_v a_o corporal_a food_n that_o nourish_v spiritual_o only_a p._n 57_o object_n of_o divine_a faith_n not_o to_o he_o level_v by_o our_o reason_n and_o sense_n p._n 59_o christ_n come●…_n into_o the_o sacrament_n by_o a_o adductive_a power_n p._n 66._o he_o be_v not_o produce_v there_o entitative_o but_o modal_o only_o p._n ibid._n certain_a passage_n of_o scripture_n allege_v a●…ainst_a we_o by_o de_fw-fr rodon_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v ●…reaking_v givin●…_n ea●…ing_v and_o drink_v after_o consecra●…ion_n answer_v p._n 68_o when_o christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o this_o mat._n 26._o he_o mean_v his_o blood_n p._n 71._o why_o the_o e●…ects_n of_o the_o sacramental_a species_n ●…emain_v after_o transubstantiation_n p._n 73._o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o total_a substantial_a conversion_n and_o not_o a_o formal_a substantial_a conversion_n only_o p._n 75._o the_o sac●…amental_a species_n be_v something_o sub●…ect_v li●…e_v p._n 77._o transubstantiation_n destroy_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o acci●…ents_n p._n 79._o transubstantiation_n destroy_v not_o the_o nature_n o●…_n sac●…aments_n p._n 84._o corporal_a nourishment_n in_o the_o sacramental_a s●…ecies_n n●…t_o requisite_a p._n 85._o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n ought_v to_o be_v adore_v with_o a_o latria_n p._n 88_o if_o our_o adversary_n give_v not_o a_o latriacal_a adoration_n to_o their_o communion_n bread_n it_o may_v be_v lawful_o give_v to_o dog_n p._n 89._o if_o they_o adore_v their_o communion_n they_o be_v great_a idolater_n than_o we_o p._n 91._o christ_n give_v power_n to_o priest_n to_o consecrate_v p._n 97._o christ_n body_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n immediate_o by_o reason_n of_o its_o substance_n p._n 99_o it_o be_v quantity_n be_v also_o there_o though_o not_o with_o its_o quantitative_a dimension_n p._n 100_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o proper_a place_n and_o how_o many_o manner_n of_o way_n both_o christian_a divine_n and_o philosopher_n hold_v a_o thing_n may_v be_v in_o a_o place_n p._n 103._o a_o glorious_a body_n may_v be_v in_o its_o equivocal_a place_n p._n 109._o the_o jacobins_n and_o the_o jesuit_n opinion_n concern_v christ_n body_n to_o be_v bring_v or_o produce_v in_o the_o sacrament_n save_v p._n 112._o christ_n body_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n subject_a to_o his_o soul_n as_o his_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o his_o divinity_n p._n 117._o why_o the_o local_a extension_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v hinder_v p._n 119._o de_fw-fr rodon_n argument_n of_o to_o move_v and_o not_o to_o move_v at_o the_o same_o time_n etc._n etc._n answer_v p._n 121._o wherein_o a_o formal_a contradiction_n consist_v p._n 123_o de_n rodons_n ridiculous_a quibble_n and_o unphilosophical_a illation_n answer_v p._n 129._o distance_n be_v only_o betwixt_o corporal_a thing_n whilst_o they_o be_v in_o their_o univocal_a place_n p._n 130_o a_o sacramental_a place_n be_v proper_o no_o place_n at_o all_o p._n 133._o de_fw-fr rodon_n dropsical_a argument_n of_o a_o drop_n of_o water_n that_o drown_v many_o thousand_o etc._n etc._n moulder_a p._n 136._o division_n be_v only_o between_o corporal_a thing_n in_o their_o proper_a place_n p._n 138._o god_n and_o nature_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o do_v what_o they_o can_v do_v p._n 140._o de_fw-fr rodon_n shoot_v at_o christ_n through_o diana_n side_n p._n 143._o christ_n be_v see_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o spiritual_a eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n support_v by_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n p._n 146._o it_o be_v not_o convenient_a we_o shall_v see_v christ_n visible_o with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n p._n 148._o substance_n possess_v no_o place_n p._n 151._o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o take_v substantial_o or_o quantitative_o have_v no_o posture_n or_o situation_n in_o it_o p._n 154._o his_o body_n appear_v not_o more_o or_o less_o for_o divide_v or_o sub-dividing_a the_o host_n p._n 156._o christ_n be_v as_o glorious_a and_o happy_a in_o the_o host_n as_o he_o be_v in_o heaven_n p._n 161._o what_o these_o term_n reduplicative_o and_o specificative_o what_o sensus_fw-la compositus_fw-la and_o divisus_fw-la mean_v p._n ibid._n as_o christ_n come_v into_o the_o host_n without_o local_a 〈◊〉_d so_o he_o leave_v it_o without_o local_a ●…e_n 〈◊〉_d p._n 165._o de_fw-fr rodon_n give_v the_o apostle_n the_o lie_n p._n 167._o christ_n diana_n and_o the_o apostle_n save_v from_o de_fw-fr rodons_n keen_a arrow_n p._n 168._o de_fw-fr rodon_n jump_v with_o the_o jew_n against_o christ_n p._n 170._o his_o thunderbolt_n or_o celestial_a arrow_n shiver_v p._n 172._o according_a to_o de_fw-fr rodons_n principle_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o sacrament_n of_o our_o lord_n supper_n at_o all_o p._n 174._o cl●…ud_fw-fr de_fw-fr xainte_v defend_v against_o de_fw-fr rodon_n p._n ibid._n exorcism_n p._n 176._o de_fw-fr rodon_n miraculous_a arrow_n put_v by_o p._n 179._o christ_n real_o in_o heaven_n and_o real_o in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n at_o the_o same_o time_n p._n 182._o he_o be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n impanated_a p._n ibid._n he_o give_v himself_o to_o judas_n also_o p._n 18●…_n bellormine_v and_o peron_n defende●…_n p._n 186._o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v a_o relation_n to_o those_o of_o the_o new_a p._n 187._o the_o mo●…sieurs_fw-fr scripturistical_a arrow_n shat●…ered_v p._n 190._o the_o mark_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n p._n 193._o the_o seven_o sacrament_n expound_v p._n 195._o why_o we_o keep_v the_o eucharist_n in_o our_o pix_n and_o 〈◊〉_d p._n 197._o monsieur_n and_o his_o party_n the_o false_a prophet_n the_o evangelist_n speak_v of_o p._n illid_v god_n many_o manner_n of_o way_n in_o his_o creature_n p._n 202._o external_n adoration_n due_a to_o christ_n where_o he_o be_v know_v to_o be_v personal_o present_a p._n 203._o heretic_n uncivil_a both_o to_o god_n and_o man_n p._n 206._o according_a to_o de_fw-fr rodons_n principle_n we_o may_v adore_v the_o devil_n instead_o of_o christ_n p._n 209._o why_o external_n adoration_n be_v due_a to_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n more_o than_o in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n p._n 210._o heaven_n and_o hell_n destroy_v by_o the_o monsieurs_fw-fr principle_n p._n 211._o the_o monsieur_n three_o foundation_n build_v upon_o quicksand_n p._n 215._o de_fw-fr rodon_n very_o considerable_a argument_n pernicious_a to_o all_o mankind_n p._n 218._o destructive_a to_o go●…s_n providence_n p._n 222._o a_o moral_a certitude_n of_o be_v christen_v sufficient_a p._n 223._o pope_n adrian_n defend_v against_o de_fw-fr rodon_n p._n 226._o apostate_n priest_n and_o monk_n in_o credit_n and_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n with_o de_fw-fr rodon_n and_o his_o party_n p._n 228._o the_o p●…imitive_a church_n adore_v the_o host_n p._n 233._o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a holy_a father_n p._n ibid._n our_o diana_n or_o mass_n hold_v it_o out_o from_o all_o age_n maugre_o de_fw-fr rodon_n and_o all_o heretic_n p._n 237._o diana_n vindicate_v against_o idolatry_n p._n 238._o the_o church_n make_v no_o new_a article_n of_o
he_o speak_v the_o word_n chap._n ii_o concern_v the_o exposition_n of_o these_o word_n he_o that_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n have_v everlasting_a life_n my_o flesh_n be_v meat_n indeed_o etc._n etc._n monsieur_fw-fr de_fw-fr rodon_n do_v promise_n in_o his_o precedent_a chapter_n to_o prove_v in_o this_o that_o christ_n speak_v of_o a_o spiritual_a eat_n and_o drink_v by_o faith_n which_o he_o say_v be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o not_o of_o a_o corporal_a eat_n and_o drink_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o body_n his_o first_o argument_n be_v this_o rodon_n 1._o when_o a_o man_n will_v satisfy_v his_o hunger_n and_o quench_v his_o thirst_n he_o o●…th_v and_o drink_v that_o thing_n which_o he_o hunger_n and_o thirst_v after_o because_o eat_v satisfy_v hunger_n and_o drink_v quench_v thirst_n but_o it_o be_v by_o faith_n that_o be_v by_o believe_v in_o jesus_n christ_n that_o we_o satisfy_v the_o hunger_n and_o quench_v the_o thirst_n which_o john_n he_o that_o come_v to_o i_o shall_v never_o hunger_n &_o he_o that_o believe_v in_o i_o shall_v never_o thirst_v and_o he_o that_o beleve_v in_o i_o shall_v never_o thirst_v therefore_o it_o be_v by_o faith_n or_o by_o beleve_v that_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_n jesus_n christ_n and_o consequent_o the_o eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n and_o drink_v of_o his_o blood_n be_v spiritual_a and_o not_o corporal_a answ._n to_o this_o argument_n i_o answer_v grant_v the_o major_a and_o distinguish_v the_o minor_a thus_o but_o it_o be_v by_o faith_n as_o by_o a_o condition_n requisite_a that_o we_o satisfy_v the_o hunger_n and_o quench_v the_o thirst_n which_o we_o have_v after_o christ_n i_o confess_v but_o it_o be_v by_o faith_n as_o by_o the_o proper_a and_o formal_a cause_n of_o satisfy_v our_o hunger_n and_o quench_v our_o thirst_n after_o he_o or_o as_o faith_n be_v the_o spiritual_a mouth_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o convey_v christ_n into_o she_o i_o deny_v the_o minor_a and_o both_o the_o consequence_n follow_v therefore_o i_o say_v although_o not_o only_a faith_n but_o also_o hope_v and_o charity_n be_v requisite_a condition_n wiihout_v which_o no_o body_n can_v have_v the_o spiritual_a refreshment_n this_o divine_a food_n give_v unto_o the_o soul_n and_o which_o the_o soul_n so_o much_o hunger_n and_o thirst_v after_o yet_o neither_o faith_n hope_n nor_o charity_n joint_o or_o several_o be_v the_o chief_n cause_n of_o this_o refreshment_n and_o spiritual_a satisfaction_n but_o the_o real_a entity_n of_o christ_n body_n which_o be_v in_o the_o consecrate_a host_n be_v receive_v corporal_o by_o we_o while_o we_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n be_v that_o which_o chief_o and_o principal_o cause_v this_o spiritual_a refreshment_n in_o we_o it_o be_v that_o glorify_a body_n that_o satisfy_v our_o spiritual_a hunger_n and_o quench_v our_o spiritual_a thirst_n and_o faith_n be_v only_o one_o of_o the_o requisite_a condition_n that_o christ_n body_n shall_v feed_v we_o spiritual_o just_o as_o the_o application_n of_o fire_n to_o wood_n be_v a_o condition_n requisite_a that_o fire_n shall_v burn_v the_o wood_n but_o none_o can_v say_v that_o the_o application_n the_o condition_n requisite_a be_v that_o which_o burn_v the_o wood_n but_o the_o fire_n be_v the_o whole_a cause_n of_o burn_a even_o so_o we_o say_v of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o it_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o whole_a cause_n of_o the_o spiritual_a refreshment_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o the_o thing_n which_o she_o chief_o hunger_n and_o thirst_v after_o and_o faith_n be_v but_o a_o condition_n requisite_a when_o his_o body_n be_v take_v corporal_o by_o we_o that_o it_o shall_v refresh_v we_o spiritual_o to_o the_o passage_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o s._n john_n i_o answer_v that_o his_o word_n must_v not_o be_v understand_v that_o he_o that_o come_v to_o i_o by_o faith_n alone_o shall_v never_o hunger_n and_o he_o that_o only_o beleive_v in_o i_o shall_v never_o thirst_v for_o many_o may_v believe_v in_o christ_n and_o yet_o be_v actual_o in_o mortal_a sin_n and_o yet_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o mortal_a sin_n cause_v a_o divorce_n betwixt_o christ_n and_o the_o soul_n or_o dare_v mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n say_v that_o if_o he_o or_o any_o of_o his_o party_n shall_v chance_v to_o be_v drink_v to_o swear_v or_o to_o envy_v another_o man_n that_o by_o such_o a_o action_n he_o forfeit_v his_o belief_n if_o so_o then_o he_o present_o become_v a_o heretic_n for_o heresy_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o forfeiture_n of_o belief_n in_o a_o christian._n therefore_o the_o say_a passage_n must_v be_v understand_v thus_o he_o that_o come_v to_o i_o by_o virtue_n of_o this_o or_o any_o other_o of_o my_o sacrament_n or_o by_o true_a contrition_n and_o believe_v in_o i_o take_v faith_n as_o a_o condition_n requisite_a not_o as_o the_o cause_n of_o come_v unto_o he_o such_o a_o soul_n if_o she_o leave_v he_o not_o by_o fall_v into_o sin_n again_o through_o her_o own_o fault_n shall_v never_o hunger_n nor_o thirst_n spiritual_o but_o be_v for_o ever_o refresh_v by_o virtue_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n with_o increase_n of_o charity_n and_o all_o other_o virtue_n neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o christ_n body_n when_o worthy_o receive_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o body_n do_v work_v spiritual_o upon_o the_o soul_n which_o i_o prove_v thus_o because_o where_o christ_n glorify_a body_n be_v real_o present_a there_o be_v his_o divinity_n humanity_n and_o person_n also_o by_o concomitance_n and_o where_o his_o person_n be_v there_o the_o person_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v by_o circumincession_n as_o divi●…s_n ●…all_v it_o but_o where_o the_o divinity_n personal_o i●…abits_v it_o replenish_v and_o satiat_v that_o soul_n and_o body_n with_o spiritual_a food_n and_o joy_n therefore_o whosoever_o take_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n worthy_o and_o put_v no_o obstacle_n to_o its_o spiritual_a operation_n he_o be_v satiate_v 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