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A54048	A question to the professors of Christianity, whether they have the true, living, powerful saving knowledge of Christ or no? with some queries concerning Christ, and his appearances, his taking upon him our flesh : as also concerning his flesh and blood, and our being formed thereof, and feeding thereon, and an incitation to professors seriously to consider, whether they or we fail, in the true acknowledgment and owning of the Christ which died at Jerusalem : likewise some propositions and considerations concerning the nature of church-worships and ordinances, since the death of the apostles, for the sake of simplicity, which hath been long held captive therein : with the sounding of bowels towards thee, O England : also a faithful guidance to the principle and path of truth, with some sensible experimental questions and answers from the tenth chapter of John / by Isaac Penington ...	Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679.	1667 (1667)	Wing P1184; ESTC R18236	42,725	54

Salvation that ever the Son had from him The Jews were to learn in Types Figures and Shadows till Christ came And after Christ came he also taught them in Resemblances and Similitudes of things and the Apostle wrote and spake much to persons as just coming out of that state in a language suited to that state But he that comes into the thing it self and is taught there by the Spirit after he is grown up and made capable he is taught plainly the nature of the Heavenly things and the words of the Apostles concerning the deep things of God which are mysterious to others are manifest plain to him Yea the Lord so teacheth him things as words cannot utter that is He so knoweth the Peace of God the Joy of his Spirit the Life and Power of the Lord Jesus Christ his Wisdom Righteousness and pure pretious way of sanctifying the heart the tender Mercy Faithfulness and rich love of the Father c. as he cannot utter to any man nay so as he never learned nor could learn from words about the thing but by the sense and experience of the thing it self the Lord in whom are the depths of life and who giveth the sense and understanding of the deep things of the Spirit opening them in him and manifesting them to him And indeed this is the right and excellent way of knowledge to come into the Union to come into the Thing it self to learn in the Union to see and know in the Thing This is the Way that the Lord teacheth all his Children in the new Covenant by inward Life by the pure Light within by the inward demonstration of his Spirit by the Power and Virtue of the Truth it self which it hath in him that is true And he that is in the Son hath some measure of this Life and he that hath not some measure of this Life is not in the Son but in a talk and wise knowledge of things after the flesh which will perish and he with it who abideth there For no man can be saved but by coming into the knowledge which is of a pure eternal living saving Nature Can an opinion which a man takes up concerning Christ from the Scriptures and casting himself thereupon save him for it is no more than an Opinion or Judgment unto a man unless he be in the life and power of the thing it self Then indeed it is Truth to him Knowledge in him right Knowledge otherwise it is but Knowledge falsly so called Knowledge which will not subdue his heart to Truth nor hath its seat there but in his head making him wise and able there to oppose Truth and so bringing him into a state of Condemnation Wrath and Misery beyond the Heathen and making him harder to be wrought upon by the Light and Power of Truth than the very Heathen Therefore consider your wayes O Professors of Christianity and do not despise the hand which is stretched forth to you in the love of God and in the motion and guidance of his Spirit who condescends to you exceedingly that he might reach to his own in you and scatter your Apprehensions Imaginations and Conceivings about the meanings of Scriptures which are as so many Chains of Death and Darkness upon you that ye might come to him in whom is Life and who gives life freely to all that come to him O observe what Barrs were in the way of the Scribes and Pharisees They would not come to him that they might have life nay indeed they could not as they stood There are greater Barrs in your way yea it is harder for many of you to come to him than it was for them My upright desire to the Lord for you is That he would remove the stumbling-blocks out of your way that he would batter and knock down the flesh in you that he would strip you of al your knowledge of Scriptures according to the flesh that ye might be made by him capable of knowing and receiving things according to the Spirit and then ye will know how to understand honour and make use of the Letter also but till then ye cannot but make use of it both against your own Souls and against Christ and his Truth And then for setting up a natural Principle we are further from that then ye are aware For we are as shy of this and jealous that it was a natural Principle as ye can be and started from it divers of us till the Lord by his eternal Power and demonstration of his Spirit reached our hearts and shewed us that it was the Seed of the Kingdom even the Root of all the Spiritual life that either we our selves formerly or ever any else received at any time and gave us the sight of the things of the Kingdom in it and at length wrought that in us and for us by it which never was wrought in us before and which can be wrought by nothing else but the power of the Spirit Now having certainly felt and known the thing in our own hearts and having also seen the Snares and Nets which the Enemy laies for you whereby he keeps you from the true Bread and from the Water and Wine of the Kingdom even as he kept us formerly How can we hold our peace but witness to you in the love and drawings of the Spirit of the Lord of the Truth Life and Power which we have felt in Jesus though ye become our Enemies therefore Nor do we this to bring you to another Opinion or outward Way that is not our end but that ye might feel the thing it self and know assuredly what is the Truth in that which never was deceived it self nor ever deceived any nor will suffer any to be deceived who are joyned to it and abide in it O why should ye wander in the dark Opinions and uncertainties of the night Why should ye not rather come to that wherein the light of the day springs and out of which it shines And can the natural man who hath his eyes be deceived about the light of the natural day Doth he not know the Light of the day both from the lights and also from the darkness of the night Ten thousand times more certain and inwardly satisfied is he who is born of the spiritual Day brought forth in the Light thereof and who spiritually sees lives and walks therein So that there is no doubt in him who is grown up into the thing but he hath the assurance of Faith which is far above the assurance of outward sense or reason and the assurance of understanding O blessed is he who hath an eye to see an ear to hear an heart to understand the things which God hath revealed by his Spirit in this our day the living Way which he hath now made manifest the principle of Life that he hath raised out of the Grave of Death But he that reproacheth and speaketh evil of this that will neither enter in himself nor suffer

others he is far from receiving the blessing or blessedness of this Seed but groweth up in the wrong nature and spirit the end whereof is to be burned with all that is in union with it and groweth up from it Therefore come out from that spirit come out of that dark mind and nature which never saw nor can see the Truth but setteth up Opinions and appearances of things instead of it and receive the Anointing which is given with and in the Seed which is raised in some and visited in many in this day of the Lords Love and tender Mercy to whom the Living the Sensible the Redeemed sing praises and on whom they wait for his further manifesting of his Power and Glory in them daily more and more Now Friends if ye will know aright or believe aright ye must know and believe in him who was with the Father before the World was who was the Saviour the Jesus the Christ from everlasting For what makes him so Is it not his Nature Is it not the power of Salvation in him His taking up a body made no alteration in him added nothing to him onely it was necessary that he should take it up to fulfil the Will in it and to offer it up a Sacrifice in his own Life and Spirit to the Father This we firmly believe and this also we cannot but say further That the Virtue the Value the Worth the Excellency of what was done by him in the Body was not of the Body but it was in him before time in time and will be after time and for ever Yea it is he to whom the Name Jesus and Christ did of right belong before he took up the Body and he only put forth in the Body the saving Virtue which he had before which belonged to the Nature to the Anointing in him whether ever he had saved any with it or no. And this Virtue this Life this Spirit this Nature of his is the Food the Righteousness the Garment of Life and Salvation which he through the death of the Body made and prepared a living way for the Soul to come to to feed on and be cloathed with I can hardly stop speaking of these things for your sakes that through my words or the words of whom the Lord shall please ye might come to feel that which is able to give you the holy understanding and might come to the true sence and experience of the Truth it self and might see who hath blinded you and how he hath blinded you and fed you with Husks and dry food instead of that which hath the true living Sap in it But while ye see and judge in that which is wrong ye must needs judge amiss both of your selves and others and also of the Truth it self and of the words spoken either formerly or now concerning it whereby ye expose and bring your selves under the righteous Judgment of the Truth it self even of the Son and the Light of his Day which hath power from the Father to judge all false appearances deceits and deceivers A POST-SCRIPT to the Professors of Christianity IT hath pleased the Lord as he manifested his Christ gloriously before the Apostacy so to manifest him so again For he was not only born in the flesh of the Virgin Mary but he was also born in the Spirit of the Woman cloathed with the Sun which had the Moon under her feet and on her head a Crown of twelve Stars She also brought forth the Man-Child who was to Rule all Nations with a Rod of Iron Rev. 12. Now of this appearance and return of the Lord Jesus Christ and his fresh bringing forth of his Life and Power in his Body the Church there are many Witnesses who have seen felt and tasted thereof with the Eyes and Sences which are of God and of the new Birth And of this in the Love and good Will of God and from the drawings and requirings of his Spirit they bear witness to others that they also might come to see the glory and brightness of his Day and rejoyce therein For indeed it is a glorious Day inwardly in Spirit to those that are quickened and gathered to the living Shepheard and Bishop of the Soul by the eternal Arm of his Power And happy is the Eye that sees the things that they see and the Ear that hears what they hear and the Heart that understands the things which God hath revealed in and unto them by his Spirit Glorious was the appearance of Christ in flesh but there were blocks in the way of the Jews that they could not know own believe and receive him And glorious is the administration of his life in Spirit in this day of his Power but there are also blocks lying in the way of them to whom it is sent which cause them to stumble at it and keep them both from letting it into them and also from giving up to it But blessed was he who was not offended in Christ then and blessed is he who is not offended at him now For he that is offended at him who is Life and gives Life stumbling at the present way of dispensation which God hath chosen to give it out by how shall he live This is the cause that so many poor hearts lie mourning and grovelling on the earth groaning because of their sins fearing because of the strength of the Enemy and the corruptions of their own hearts which are continually ready to betray them into his hands because they know not him who hath stretched out his Arm and is come in his Power to deliver but are prejudiced against the way wherein he hath and doth deliver Yea they know not his Voice who calls Come unto me I am the Resurrection and the Life He that believeth in me shall receive my strength and though he were never so weak shall become as David and though never so unclean shall find the Waters which spring from my Well to cleanse him and nourish him to Life everlasting How tenderly did Christ visit the Jews in the dayes of his flesh How powerfully and in the true Authority of God did he preach among them What mighty Works did he shew and yet they could not believe Why so The Enemy had entred them with his temptations had got somewhat into their minds of a contrary nature to keep out thereby the sense knowledge and acknowledgment of him So that when their hearts were even overcome with his Power and sweet precious Doctrine and ready to yeeld that this was he this was Christ indeed then the Enemy raised up some Argument or other to prejudice them against him that he might thereby beat them off and drive them back again from owning or receiving him This man is not of God say some for he keepeth not the Sabbath He cannot be a Prophet say others because he is of Galilee out of which no Prophet ariseth He cannot be Christ saith a third sort because we know whence he

same Christ that took upon him the body of flesh and offered it without the Gates of Jerusalem Is there any more than one or is there any other than he Is Christ divided Is there one Christ within and another without He that knoweth the least measure of the thing doth he not know the thing in some measure And he that is in the least measure of the thing is he not in the thing He that knoweth the Son doth he not also know the Father And he that knoweth the Spirit doth he not also know the Son And he that is in the Spirit is he not in the Son For they are one Nature and Being A man may have notions of the one and not of the other but their Nature their Being their Life their Virtue is inseparable And as Christ said concerning the Father That he was in the Father and the Father in him and that he that saw him saw the Father So may it not be as truly affirmed in the true sence and understanding of Life concerning Christ That he is in the Spirit and the Spirit in him and that he that seeth the Spirit seeth him and that he that seeth him seeth the Spirit For he is the Spirit according to that Scripture 2 Cor. 3.17 Now the Lord is that Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty What to do Why to see and read within the Vail and to behold the glory of the Lord which is revealed there which they whom the Vail was over formerly or whom the Vail is over now have not liberty to do Here is confusion and impossibility to mans wisdom that Christ should be all one with the Spirit that Christ should send the Spirit in his Name and also himself be the Spirit whom he sends This is an hard saying who can bear it And yet this confusion to man is Gods Wisdom and pretious in their eye who are taught of him For it is one and the same Christ that was signified in Types and Shadows under the Law revealed in the fulness of time in that prepared Body and afterwards in Spirit Now after he was ascended he received the Spirit so as he had not received him before and so having received the Promise of the Father he so dispenseth the Spirit to his Brethren and Disciples as it had not been dispensed before Indeed he comforted and refreshed his People under the Law by his holy Spirit which was their instructer then Neh. 9.20 and taught them the things of God under Types Shadows and Resemblances When he came in the Body he chose out Disciples whom he taught the things of the Kingdom and was a Refresher and Comforter of them therein And was not this another Comforter than those had under the Law Had the Jews before ever any such Comforter as Christ was to his Disciples in his bodily presence Now when he ascends he receives the Spirit from the Father as the Father had promised him and having so received him he sends him to them for their Comforter And may not this justly be tearmed another Comforter then Christ was in his bodily presence And yet is it not also the same Spirit of Life that had been with them in that Body So that it is another in the way of Administration but the same in substance even the Word which was from the beginning the Spirit which was from everlasting and to everlasting there is no other Now as the Father sent the Son and yet was with and in the Son so the Son sending the Spirit he also is with and in the Spirit And as it is the Fathers Will that the same honour be given to the Son as is given to him so it is the Sons pleasure that the same honour be given to his Spirit as is given to him Yea as he that will worship the Father must worship in the Son must come to him in the Son must appear before him in the Son must reverence and kiss the Son so he that will come to Christ will worship him must come to him in the Spirit must bow to him in the Spirit Yea he that will know and worship Christ in his fulness in the majesty of his Glory Dominion and Power must learn to bow at the lowest appearance of his Light and Spirit even at the very feet of Jesus for that is the lowest part of the Body Quer. 15. Did not the Bridegroom go away as to his appearance in flesh that he might come again in Spirit Did not the Apostles who knew his appearance in flesh and his tabernacling among them know also afterwards his appearance in Spirit and his tabernacling in them And were not their hearts filled with joy unspeakable and full of glory because of the presence of the Bridegroom Did they not know the Man-Child born and brought forth in Spirit as really as ever he was born and brought forth in flesh Yea did they not travel and help to bring him forth Were there not many in that day who could say concerning the spiritual and inward appearance of the Bridegroom We know that the Son of God the eternal Life the pure power and wisdom of the Father is come Did they not receive from him the understanding which he gives in and by his coming Yea were they not in him that is true even in Jesus Christ the Son who is the true God and Life eternal 1 John 5.20 Had they not received the Kingdom which could not be shaken And did they never see and converse with the King in the Kingdom Nay did not he walk in them and they in him and he sup with them and they with him eating and drinking together the Bread and Wine of the Kingdom fresh and new in the Kingdom O that ye could read in Spirit O that ye did receive that measure of life from Christ which the Father hath allotted you that ye might read therein but the Letter read out of the Spirit darkeneth and killeth Quer. 16. What is the Laver of Regeneration or the Water wherewith the Soul is washed and whereof a man is born again Is it outward or inward Is it the water which ran out of the side of the natural Body when it was pierced with a Spear or the water which springs from the Fountain of Life the water which floweth from the Spirit What are the waters which corrupt mud and defile the mind Are they outward waters And what are the waters which purifie and cleanse it Can they be of a lower nature then Spiritual What are the waters which answer the thirst of the Soul after Life after Purity after Salvation That refresh and glad the heart of him that drinketh thereof Are they not from the pure River clear as Chrystal which runs from the Throne And if the water which cleanseth and nourisheth the Soul be spiritual can the flesh and blood which falleth not short of the Water in its Virtues Properties and Operations be inferiour