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scripture_n with_o who_o agree_v chemnitius_n say_v 69._o say_v exam._n part_n 1._o p._n 69._o andradius_fw-la affirm_v that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v either_o always_o to_o be_v reject_v or_o always_o to_o be_v receive_v i_o answer_v etc._n etc._n where_o the_o father_n set_v down_o this_o tradition_n of_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n they_o prove_v it_o by_o testimony_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n if_o with_o the_o same_o course_n of_o certainty_n they_o shall_v do_v the_o like_a of_o other_o tradition_n whereof_o sometime_o they_o make_v mention_n it_o be_v to_o be_v respect_v and_o they_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o same_o law_n d._n saravia_n confirm_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n from_o her_o special_a assistance_n by_o the_o holie-ghost_n say_v the_o 8._o the_o de_fw-fr diversis_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la gradibus_fw-la p._n 8._o holie-ghost_n who_o govern_v the_o church_n be_v the_o best_a interpreter_n
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s._n hierome_n in_o particular_a because_o he_o contrari_v his_o exposition_n of_o the_o say_a epistle_n he_o avouch_v that_o gal._n that_o tom._n 5._o in_o ep._n ad_fw-la gal._n c._n 3._o f._n 348._o &_o tom_n 2._o de_fw-fr seruo_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la f._n 473._o et_fw-la in_o ep._n ad_fw-la brentium_n quae_fw-la praefixa_fw-la est_fw-la brentii_fw-la com._n in_o oseam_n and_o see_v he_o in_o c._n 5._o ad_fw-la gal._n he_o be_v deceive_v by_o origen_n and_o that_o he_o understand_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o s._n paul_n but_o deprave_a the_o justice_n of_o only_a faith_n and_o that_o this_o one_o error_n of_o his_o be_v so_o great_a that_o it_o alone_o be_v sufficient_a to_o destroy_v the_o gospel_n by_o which_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v say_v luther_n through_o the_o singular_a grace_n of_o god_n hierome_n have_v merit_v rather_o hell_n than_o heaven_n the_o centurist_n have_v prove_v at_o large_a that_o neither_o lactantius_n chromatius_n ephrem_n theophilus_n s._n hierome_n s._n gregory_n nyssene_n s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n s._n hilary_n nor_o s._n ambrose_n ever_o acknowledge_v their_o manner_n of_o justification_n by_o faith_n only_o infer_v thereupon_o 293._o thereupon_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 292._o 293._o now_o let_v the_o godly_a reader_n imagine_v with_o himself_o how_o far_o this_o age_n touch_v this_o article_n go_v astray_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o see_v the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o age_n further_o dislike_v therein_o by_o 70_o by_o cent._n 4._o p._n 102_o 506_o 520._o 430._o 70_o osiander_n and_o 110._o and_o exam._n part_n 4._o p._n 110._o chemnitius_n but_o to_o arise_v to_o the_o three_o age_n 391._o age_n in_o rom._n p._n 391._o melancthon_n affirm_v that_o origen_n and_o many_o other_o follow_v he_o imagine_v that_o man_n be_v just_a by_o reason_n of_o their_o work_n the_o 266_o the_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 265._o 266_o centurist_n plain_o confess_v that_o origen_n make_v good_a work_n the_o cause_n of_o justification_n 79._o justification_n ibid._n col_fw-fr 79._o and_o speak_v of_o the_o father_n of_o that_o age_n they_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o attribute_v to_o good_a work_n justice_n before_o god_n as_o origen_n l._n 1._o in_o job._n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o as_o then_o for_o the_o most_o part_n this_o chief_a article_n of_o justification_n seem_v to_o have_v be_v obscure_v 206._o obscure_v in_o apoc._n p._n 206._o winkelmannus_n do_v clear_o grant_v that_o origen_n ascribe_v to_o work_n the_o cause_n of_o justification_n yea_o the_o centurist_n 80_o centurist_n câ—nt_fw-la 3._o col_fw-fr 80_o affirm_v that_o origen_n in_o many_o place_n ascribe_v to_o work_n the_o preparation_n and_o cause_n of_o salvation_n as_o trac_n in_o math._n &_o hom_n â—4_n in_o josuam_fw-la &_o 26._o he_o ascribe_v to_o our_o merit_n god_n dwell_v in_o we_o by_o his_o grace_n in_o which_o respect_n also_o beza_n accuse_v origen_n 46._o origen_n in_o act._n c._n 10_o 46._o of_o horrible_a blasphemy_n the_o centurist_n speak_v of_o this_o three_o age_n avouch_v that_o 10._o that_o â—ent_n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 53_o 79_o 80_o 8._o &_o cent._n 4._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 292._o cent._n 5._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 504._o etc._n etc._n 10._o this_o article_n of_o justification_n by_o only_a faith_n be_v almost_o altogether_o obscure_v and_o that_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o time_n decline_v more_o from_o the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n then_o of_o the_o age_n before_o hence_o among_o other_o of_o this_o and_o the_o succeed_a age_n that_o they_o pretend_v to_o have_v err_v herein_o they_o name_v s._n clement_n tertulian_n origen_n s._n cyprian_n s._n augustin_n s._n ambrose_n s._n hierome_n s._n chrysostom_n s._n cyril_n theophilus_n lactantius_n eusebius_n chromatius_n ephrem_n s._n gregory_n nyssene_n s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n s._n hilary_n s._n leo_n saluianus_n esichius_n prosper_n maximus_n and_o paulinus_n in_o like_a sort_n they_o report_v of_o s._n cyprian_a that_o he_o attribute_v overmuch_o to_o good_a wookes_z and_o 370._o and_o medulla_n theol._n p._n 370._o schultetus_fw-la reprehend_v he_o for_o that_o in_o his_o sermon_n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la he_o ascribe_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n to_o satisfaction_n and_o the_o 240._o the_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 240._o centurist_n confess_v the_o same_o in_o the_o self_n same_o word_n of_o tertulian_n but_o d._n whitaker_n 78_o whitaker_n in_o resp_n add_v rat_n cam._n rat_n 5._o p._n 78_o with_o chemnitius_n 110._o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 4_o p._n 110._o and_o melancthon_n 25._o melancthon_n in_o suis_fw-la libelli_fw-la aliquot_fw-la fol._n 25._o do_v all_o of_o they_o avouch_v that_o not_o cyprian_n only_o but_o almost_o all_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n of_o that_o time_n be_v in_o that_o error_n as_o think_v so_o to_o pay_v the_o pain_n due_a to_o sin_n and_o to_o satisfy_v god_n justice_n melancthon_n acknowledge_v that_o 3._o that_o in_o 1._o cor._n c._n 3._o present_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n the_o ancient_a father_n obscure_v the_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o justice_n of_o faith_n etc._n etc._n so_o likewise_o in_o general_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o 80._o the_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 80._o centurist_n that_o the_o doctor_n of_o this_o age_n decline_v from_o the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n concern_v work_n but_o to_o ascend_v yet_o high_a the_o centurist_n speak_v of_o the_o second_o age_n after_o christ_n affirm_v that_o 61._o that_o cent._n 2._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 60._o 61._o the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n be_v deliver_v more_o negligent_o and_o obscure_o by_o the_o doctor_n of_o this_o age._n as_o also_o this_o article_n the_o high_a and_o chief_a of_o all_o by_o little_a &_o little_a through_o the_o craft_n of_o the_o devil_n begin_v to_o be_v obscure_v and_o again_o say_v they_o it_o appear_v out_o of_o the_o writing_n of_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n that_o in_o his_o age_n the_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o end_n of_o good_a work_n begin_v to_o be_v obscure_v final_o the_o time_n ensue_v declare_v sufficient_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n justify_v without_o work_n begin_v forthwith_o to_o be_v more_o and_o more_o vary_a and_o obscure_v schultetus_fw-la 4._o schultetus_fw-la medulla_n theol._n p._n 48._o 122._o 151._o and_o see_v cent._n 2._o c._n 4._o and_o cent._n 3._o c._n 4._o confess_v the_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n of_o work_n in_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n theophilus_n cyprian_n justin_n martyr_n etc._n etc._n and_o d._n humphrey_n 530._o humphrey_n jesuit_n part_n 2._o p._n 530._o his_o opinion_n be_v that_o 247._o that_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 247._o it_o may_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o that_o ireneus_fw-la clemens_n and_o other_o call_v apostolical_a have_v in_o their_o writing_n the_o opinion_n of_o freewill_n and_o merit_n of_o work_n schultetus_fw-la 467._o schultetus_fw-la medul_a theol._n p._n 467._o also_o charge_v the_o book_n of_o hermes_n entitle_v pastor_n with_o merit_n and_o justification_n of_o work_n and_o 340._o and_o in_o his_o defend_n of_o parkins_n p._n 339._o 340._o m._n wotton_n not_o forbear_v to_o tax_v for_o this_o very_a point_n of_o merit_n ignatius_n cite_v for_o the_o same_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n and_o only_o answer_v in_o this_o unworthy_a namer_n i_o say_v plain_o this_o man_n testimony_n be_v nothing_o worth_a because_o he_o be_v of_o little_a judgement_n in_o divinity_n but_o what_o may_v then_o be_v think_v of_o m._n wootton_v no_o divinity_n or_o of_o wootton_n great_a impudency_n thus_o censure_v that_o ancient_a martyr_n of_o christ_n and_o scholar_n of_o s._n john_n yea_o this_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n be_v so_o universal_a as_o that_o d._n covel_n 120._o covel_n in_o his_o exam._n c._n 9_o p._n 120._o write_v that_o diverse_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o error_n about_o freewill_n merit_v etc._n etc._n luther_n after_o his_o censure_n give_v against_o diverse_a of_o the_o
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use_n as_o it_o be_v in_o time_n past_a it_o have_v its_o sign_n whereby_o it_o may_v be_v know_v whereof_o mark_v the_o evangelist_n make_v mention_n in_o his_o last_o chapter_n say_v they_o preach_v &c._n &c._n with_o sign_n follow_v and_o m._n clapham_n 25._o clapham_n sovereign_a remedy_n etc._n etc._n p_o 25._o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n reprehend_v brown_a for_o that_o he_o do_v take_v upon_o he_o extraordinary_a calling_n and_o wont_a miracle_n m._n parkins_n 177._o parkins_n vol_n 3_o part_n 2._o p._n 395._o &_o 441._o and_o luther_n in_o dâ—uteron_n in_o t._n 13_o fol_z 102_o aretius_n loc_fw-la come_v loc_fw-la 63._o p._n 198._o melancthon_n in_o christ_n doct_v p._n 884._o clapham_n in_o chro._n c._n 7._o f._n l._n 2._o mayor_n in_o ep_n 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n in_o c._n 3._o fol._n 177._o confess_v that_o we_o may_v just_o require_v more_o and_o more_o wonderful_a sign_n of_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n afore_o we_o believe_v it_o etc._n etc._n the_o church_n in_o these_o day_n have_v much_o more_o cause_n to_o doubt_v and_o to_o require_v many_o and_o extraordinary_a sign_n afore_o it_o acknowledge_v any_o such_o extraordinary_a calling_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o our_o protestant_a clergy_n challenge_v unto_o themselves_o extraordinary_a call_v thereby_o do_v oblige_v themselves_o to_o prove_v the_o same_o by_o extraordinary_a sign_n and_o miracle_n but_o to_o the_o contrary_a it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o not_o any_o minister_n no_o nor_o other_o protestant_n in_o the_o world_n ever_o wrought_v any_o miracle_n and_o so_o also_o be_v it_o confess_v by_o sir_n edward_n hobbie_n say_v 355_o say_v letter_n to_o higgon_n p._n 102_o and_o tinleyes_n 2._o serm._n p_o 66._o wotton_n in_o his_o trial_n of_o the_o romish_a clerg_n p._n 355_o we_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o confess_v that_o we_o have_v no_o other_o miracle_n than_o those_o which_o be_v wrought_v by_o christ_n the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n but_o sir_n edward_n may_v then_o be_v much_o ashamed_a of_o his_o paint_a minister_n who_o only_o pretend_v for_o themselves_o extraordinary_a call_v which_o as_o before_o must_v ever_o have_v miracle_n annex_v agreable_o hereunto_o write_v m._n mason_n say_v 11._o say_v consecrat_fw-mi of_o engl_n bish._n p_o 11._o we_o teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n for_o substance_n which_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n both_o teach_v and_o confirm_v by_o miracle_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n all_o the_o miracle_n of_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v we_o etc._n etc._n but_o if_o the_o question_n be_v concern_v our_o person_n than_o we_o confess_v that_o we_o can_v work_v no_o miracle_n we_o take_v no_o such_o matter_n upon_o we_o neither_o be_v it_o necessary_a because_o both_o our_o call_v and_o doctrine_n be_v ordinary_a so_o flat_o do_v he_o disclaim_v from_o all_o protestant_n miracle_n or_o extraordinary_a call_v in_o like_a sort_n acknowledge_v d._n sutcliffe_n 8._o sutcliffe_n examination_n of_o kellison_n survey_v p._n 8._o neither_o do_v we_o minister_n practise_v miracle_n nor_o do_v we_o teach_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v confirm_v with_o miracle_n d._n fulk_n 478_o fulk_n ag_z rhem._n te._n in_o apoc._n c._n 13._o fol._n 478_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v know_v that_o caluin_n and_o the_o rest_n who_o the_o papist_n call_v arch-heretic_n do_v work_v no_o miracle_n and_o as_o concern_v luther_n himself_o who_o all_o pretend_v to_o be_v most_o extraordinary_o call_v 203._o call_v admonitio_fw-la de_fw-la libro_fw-la concordiae_fw-la p._n 202._o 203._o the_o protestant_n of_o the_o count_n palatine_n do_v express_o say_v of_o he_o we_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o miracle_n which_o he_o have_v do_v yea_o himself_n 157._o himself_n tom._n 4._o in_o esay_n c_o 35._o fol._n 157._o endeavour_v to_o answer_v this_o strong_a argument_n make_v against_o he_o be_v enforce_v to_o confess_v and_o say_v they_o laugh_v at_o we_o and_o 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